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Thu Apr-09-09 09:46 PM
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maintain tribal sovereignty in the face of all-out assaults and attacks by state governments, aided and abetted by the Justice Dept. Most tribes are not under state jurisdiction, but federal jurisdiction. Too many states, however, have been acting as if it's the other way around and have been steadily chipping away, or attempting to chip away, at tribal sovereignty, even when they have no grounds to do so. They've stopped federal recognition for many tribes (because it would mean a loss of tax revenue and control over the Indians and their land, especially for energy and corporate purposes), attempted to impose state laws when they know such laws don't apply, encroached on their land for energy and corporate purposes, etc., etc., etc. It's a never-ending battle for many tribes and Bush's justice dept. has been horrendously culpable against the tribes. It's yet to be seen whether Obama will keep his very important promises to do away with that and support tribes.
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H2O Man |
Apr-09-09 09:33 PM |
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I'm a white chick living on a SD Indian reservation, |
liberalhistorian |
Apr-09-09 09:36 PM |
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yeah, I met a guy from North Dakota once back in Mississippi |
provis99 |
Apr-09-09 09:47 PM |
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What's interesting is that in the west, especially the Dakotas, |
liberalhistorian |
Apr-09-09 09:56 PM |
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I never noticed that in my part of SD |
hfojvt |
Apr-10-09 03:19 AM |
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I'm sorry, but I'm afraid you're a bit naive. |
liberalhistorian |
Apr-10-09 08:58 AM |
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I think I said it mattered which part of SD you were in |
hfojvt |
Apr-10-09 03:08 PM |
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"regardless of his dark skin" |
H2O Man |
Apr-10-09 03:14 PM |
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I don't get that at all. Does language tell secrets. |
hfojvt |
Apr-10-09 06:29 PM |
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You didn't say anything wrong. The ill intent is lodged in the eye of the beholder. |
Hannah Bell |
Apr-11-09 03:55 PM |
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Thank you for educating us again, H20 Man. |
babylonsister |
Apr-09-09 09:39 PM |
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It is happening. |
H2O Man |
Apr-10-09 09:14 AM |
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Got to meet a wise, older man today, who runs a small community campus |
havocmom |
Apr-09-09 09:40 PM |
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Synergy. |
H2O Man |
Apr-10-09 09:13 AM |
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^rec |
bridgit |
Apr-09-09 09:41 PM |
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Thanks. n/t |
H2O Man |
Apr-10-09 07:20 AM |
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Candidate Obama promised to 'honor the treaties' |
bigtree |
Apr-09-09 09:41 PM |
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The Crow People adopted him |
havocmom |
Apr-09-09 09:43 PM |
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It can be very difficult. |
H2O Man |
Apr-10-09 07:17 AM |
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Thank you. Agree |
havocmom |
Apr-10-09 10:45 AM |
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Yesw, exactly. |
H2O Man |
Apr-10-09 10:56 AM |
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The fight with our own demons, through the ages, is spirit and in flesh |
havocmom |
Apr-10-09 11:11 AM |
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The most important thing for all tribes at this time is to |
liberalhistorian |
Apr-09-09 09:46 PM |
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Exactly. |
H2O Man |
Apr-10-09 06:48 AM |
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True. |
H2O Man |
Apr-10-09 07:19 AM |
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I fear the water wars to come |
stevedeshazer |
Apr-09-09 09:44 PM |
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Definitely. |
H2O Man |
Apr-10-09 06:40 AM |
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Scum |
Me. |
Apr-09-09 09:58 PM |
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You scared me. |
H2O Man |
Apr-10-09 06:40 AM |
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As If! |
Me. |
Apr-10-09 07:52 AM |
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"the Indian nations respect and value the land" |
Hannah Bell |
Apr-11-09 03:59 PM |
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I live there. |
mix |
Apr-09-09 10:19 PM |
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Very nice. |
H2O Man |
Apr-10-09 06:37 AM |
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My great luck |
cilla4progress |
Apr-09-09 11:15 PM |
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Thanks, |
H2O Man |
Apr-10-09 06:34 AM |
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The Ross quote explains US policy in Haiti and Cuba |
EFerrari |
Apr-10-09 03:24 AM |
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Right. |
H2O Man |
Apr-10-09 06:33 AM |
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at the risk of sounding like a South Dakotan |
hfojvt |
Apr-10-09 03:42 AM |
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Yes, I am aware of that. |
H2O Man |
Apr-10-09 06:31 AM |
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I'm curious where you got this from. |
a la izquierda |
Apr-10-09 07:37 AM |
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is the source bad? Because it does not seem to be a pro-white source |
hfojvt |
Apr-10-09 02:57 PM |
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I wasn't questioning it's veracity |
a la izquierda |
Apr-11-09 08:35 AM |
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Oh, please. A couple examples like that as opposed |
liberalhistorian |
Apr-10-09 09:03 AM |
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Right. If three Indian teens |
H2O Man |
Apr-10-09 09:09 AM |
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a couple of examples are enough to refute the claim |
hfojvt |
Apr-10-09 01:07 PM |
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If you've never read Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee, you should. |
EFerrari |
Apr-10-09 03:10 PM |
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You're kidding, right? You have no trouble digging up a version |
liberalhistorian |
Apr-10-09 04:47 PM |
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Some points |
Thothmes |
Apr-10-09 07:29 PM |
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picky, picky, picky |
hfojvt |
Apr-10-09 07:55 PM |
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You are really unbelievable, ya know? |
liberalhistorian |
Apr-10-09 10:51 PM |
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Yes, you're right about Sand Creek being in CO not WY, |
liberalhistorian |
Apr-10-09 10:57 PM |
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Here Are A Few Examples -with sources- |
mikekohr |
Apr-10-09 05:47 PM |
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Here Are A Few More: |
mikekohr |
Apr-10-09 05:50 PM |
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Some More: |
mikekohr |
Apr-10-09 05:55 PM |
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More: |
mikekohr |
Apr-10-09 05:57 PM |
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Dammit! I Found Another Example! |
mikekohr |
Apr-10-09 06:01 PM |
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Son-Of-A-Bitch, here's another one! WTF is wrong with you blood-thirsty white bastards? |
mikekohr |
Apr-10-09 06:04 PM |
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When I was a boy, |
H2O Man |
Apr-10-09 06:37 PM |
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"History is written by the victors. Now we have our own printing press," -Tim Giago Oglala Lakota- |
mikekohr |
Apr-11-09 03:29 PM |
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Very good. |
H2O Man |
Apr-11-09 07:22 PM |
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you always seem to support, for lack of a better term, |
noiretextatique |
Apr-10-09 05:48 PM |
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now that is the sort of logic that is UNconvincing |
hfojvt |
Apr-10-09 06:50 PM |
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i've seen your posts in several threads |
noiretextatique |
Apr-10-09 06:53 PM |
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and did most of the ones you know |
hfojvt |
Apr-10-09 07:43 PM |
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it's not the case. the poster took issue with the absolutist claim of another poster. |
Hannah Bell |
Apr-11-09 04:24 PM |
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Yet when Indians defended themselves over |
liberalhistorian |
Apr-10-09 11:03 PM |
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"they're all murderers and not defending themselves" |
Hannah Bell |
Apr-11-09 04:27 PM |
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That's Not the WHOLE truth |
mikekohr |
Apr-10-09 05:37 PM |
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" finally 39 Native Americans were hanged." That is incorrect |
mikekohr |
Apr-10-09 08:07 PM |
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K & R |
a la izquierda |
Apr-10-09 07:41 AM |
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Thanks. |
H2O Man |
Apr-10-09 08:36 AM |
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kick. . . . . . n/t |
annabanana |
Apr-10-09 08:46 AM |
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A series on PBS |
H2O Man |
Apr-10-09 09:12 AM |
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Great Post. |
byronius |
Apr-10-09 01:27 PM |
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A Good Start In The Right Direction |
Me. |
Apr-10-09 02:24 PM |
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John Ross was a wise man. |
Joe Fields |
Apr-10-09 02:57 PM |
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"Your Heroes Are Not Our Heroes," -Tall Oak, Naraganssett- |
mikekohr |
Apr-10-09 05:23 PM |
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k&r |
spanone |
Apr-10-09 06:43 PM |
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