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terisan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-05-09 10:05 PM
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16. You can be very fair and very dead. The lack of basic human rights in N Korea is to me an
indication of why many do not want to trust them with nukes, The leader of Korea is a dictator who is massively abusing the people of that country-people who are not even free to escape his rule.

Why should he-the dictator-have nuclear weapons? If the people are not free, they are not getting nuclear weapons-he is.

We derive our right to oppose his power by virtue of being his potential victims.
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  -Can I ask a question? Truth2Tell  Apr-05-09 09:52 PM   #0 
  - Well, North Korea doesn't have the trust of its neighbors  rockymountaindem   Apr-05-09 09:54 PM   #1 
  - Can I get a count of countries invaded  Truth2Tell   Apr-05-09 09:57 PM   #6 
     - If you count general meddling, about 214 to 1.  rug   Apr-05-09 10:09 PM   #21 
     - I'm referring to missile tests  rockymountaindem   Apr-05-09 10:12 PM   #24 
  - I assume it's because N. Korea is a "Rogue Nation", while we are The Shining Light Unto the World.  scarletwoman   Apr-05-09 09:55 PM   #2 
  - ! yep! nt  Mari333   Apr-05-09 10:11 PM   #23 
  - Because we did it years ago when "nobody" lived on the islands we tested on?  Cynical Guy   Apr-05-09 09:55 PM   #3 
  - There is no good reason for that disparity.  rrneck   Apr-05-09 09:55 PM   #4 
  - Didn't they sign something?  rwheeler31   Apr-05-09 09:56 PM   #5 
  - You mean like the Anti-Ballistic Missile Treaty  Truth2Tell   Apr-05-09 09:58 PM   #7 
  - By most accounts todays launch wasnt a missle, it was a rocket  DJ13   Apr-05-09 09:59 PM   #8 
  - Generally there's a satellite involved with a satellite launch  NeedleCast   Apr-05-09 10:00 PM   #10 
  - According to experts that reviewed the photos from it on the launchpad  DJ13   Apr-05-09 10:02 PM   #13 
  - I haven't seen anything used beyond the word "payload" so far  NeedleCast   Apr-05-09 10:08 PM   #18 
  - Something evidently landed in the Pacific.  Truth2Tell   Apr-05-09 10:02 PM   #14 
  - Fair point. My question still applies though. nt  Truth2Tell   Apr-05-09 10:00 PM   #11 
  - A very astute question that I do not have an answer for.  KitchenWitch   Apr-05-09 10:00 PM   #9 
  - Honestly, it really is "Because we say so" and for no other reason  patrice   Apr-05-09 10:02 PM   #12 
  - Because we're bigger.  BlooInBloo   Apr-05-09 10:04 PM   #15 
  - You can be very fair and very dead. The lack of basic human rights in N Korea is to me an  terisan   Apr-05-09 10:05 PM   #16 
  - I think you've pretty much hit on it  NeedleCast   Apr-05-09 10:10 PM   #22 
  - There are a lot of dictators in the world. In fact  Truth2Tell   Apr-05-09 10:19 PM   #26 
     - 1. It differs from preemptive war policies because we are not invading N. Korea.  terisan   Apr-05-09 10:34 PM   #34 
     - have you caught that movie about the American defector who left his unit  truedelphi   Apr-05-09 10:41 PM   #36 
  - C'mon. Do you really want Little Kim to have nukes that can hit us?  MrSlayer   Apr-05-09 10:08 PM   #17 
  - Yes, that's exactly what the OP wanted, for N. Korea to be able to hit us.  Bluebear   Apr-05-09 10:09 PM   #20 
  - It is when there is something to discuss.  MrSlayer   Apr-05-09 11:22 PM   #42 
  - I think the implication is that if we want them to end nuclear weapons we have to do it too.  patrice   Apr-05-09 10:17 PM   #25 
  - Boy.. it would sure help if we at least  Truth2Tell   Apr-05-09 10:24 PM   #28 
  - President Obama said he wants to do that.  MrSlayer   Apr-05-09 11:30 PM   #44 
  - Trust? Does Invasion affect trust? What happens when both of us have Invaded others?  patrice   Apr-05-09 10:23 PM   #27 
  - It always helps me to know who I'm talking to  Truth2Tell   Apr-05-09 10:27 PM   #30 
     - He doesn't deserve respect.  MrSlayer   Apr-06-09 12:28 AM   #48 
  - Don't they keep making deals with us to suspend nuclear activities  DeepBlueC   Apr-05-09 10:09 PM   #19 
  - when we test- do our missiles go over other countries, or just the ocean?  dysfunctional press   Apr-05-09 10:25 PM   #29 
  - We were riled up about this before they launched it.  Truth2Tell   Apr-05-09 10:29 PM   #33 
     - they've done it before, so yes.  dysfunctional press   Apr-05-09 10:40 PM   #35 
        - So do you think that if NK agreed  Truth2Tell   Apr-05-09 11:01 PM   #39 
           - how are they going to do that?  dysfunctional press   Apr-05-09 11:14 PM   #40 
  - Objectively speaking you are right.  Hello_Kitty   Apr-05-09 10:27 PM   #31 
  - Are you sure more people aren't put into extreme danger  Truth2Tell   Apr-05-09 10:55 PM   #37 
  - Pretty well sums it up for me.  Adsos Letter   Apr-05-09 10:57 PM   #38 
  - Because might makes right..  stillcool   Apr-05-09 10:27 PM   #32 
  - If 'fundamental fairness' existed inside The Walled Fortress Pyongyang...  bridgit   Apr-05-09 11:18 PM   #41 
  - So the smoking gun could be in the form a mushroom cloud.  Truth2Tell   Apr-05-09 11:26 PM   #43 
     - Pft, this guy's actually doing it. You can pooh-pooh it all you care to...  bridgit   Apr-06-09 12:58 AM   #49 
  - I asked a similar question a few years back, and  hyphenate   Apr-05-09 11:37 PM   #45 
  - The words "should" and "ought" may well be meaningless in international politics.  metapunditedgy   Apr-05-09 11:48 PM   #46 
  - It is not about fairness  CreekDog   Apr-05-09 11:56 PM   #47 
  - For one, we do share our expertise, a lot.  Festivito   Apr-06-09 06:39 AM   #50 
 

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