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Fri Apr-03-09 05:47 PM
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| 40. Don't we prop these guys up? |
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What type of moral authority do we speak from when we aid and abet in this kind of treatment?
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| -Video of Taliban Flogging Rattles Pakistan |
Coventina |
Apr-03-09 05:00 PM |
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And Pakistan's government actually compromised with these soulless freaks |
derby378 |
Apr-03-09 05:06 PM |
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as it should |
uppityperson |
Apr-03-09 05:07 PM |
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On a much larger scale, I look within instead - I have no words to express my utter contempt |
ShortnFiery |
Apr-03-09 05:07 PM |
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oh come on! |
cosmicone |
Apr-03-09 05:17 PM |
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pathetic. |
cali |
Apr-03-09 05:27 PM |
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Well said |
fujiyama |
Apr-06-09 03:17 AM |
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Taliban = filth. |
Zenlitened |
Apr-03-09 05:08 PM |
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Illegal Occupations of Iraq and Afghanistan coupled with Air Raids and "collateral damage" = EVIL. |
ShortnFiery |
Apr-03-09 05:10 PM |
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So you're fine with this brutal attack on this young woman? |
Zenlitened |
Apr-03-09 05:12 PM |
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Nice strawman |
Tempest |
Apr-03-09 05:14 PM |
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She's an apologist for everything ugly and hurtful in the world. |
Zenlitened |
Apr-03-09 05:16 PM |
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She is not the only one |
cosmicone |
Apr-03-09 05:19 PM |
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It would be GOOD if you could be as equally incensed about political prisoners and forced abortions |
ShortnFiery |
Apr-03-09 05:27 PM |
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And you conclude that I am not... why, exactly? |
Zenlitened |
Apr-03-09 05:36 PM |
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And that has what to do with the original post? |
fujiyama |
Apr-06-09 03:22 AM |
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she, and she introduces red herrings into any thread that dares to note |
cali |
Apr-03-09 05:29 PM |
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Nice Red Herring .... |
Trajan |
Apr-03-09 05:44 PM |
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Self-delete |
Coventina |
Apr-03-09 05:15 PM |
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No, I'm not but what you fail to acknowledge is that THESE men are "their people" -husbands, sons .. |
ShortnFiery |
Apr-03-09 05:23 PM |
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"no matter how many times my husband mistreats me, I'd fight to the death..." |
Coventina |
Apr-03-09 05:28 PM |
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Because it's THEIR native land. The situation sucks for the women but it's THEIR people and culture |
ShortnFiery |
Apr-03-09 05:33 PM |
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But it's NOT their culture! It's a recent invasion of the Taliban into the Swat valley |
Coventina |
Apr-03-09 05:36 PM |
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"Maybe they, unlike you, don't want unlimited abuse." |
Zenlitened |
Apr-03-09 05:41 PM |
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Thanks! |
Coventina |
Apr-03-09 05:45 PM |
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Abuse of women is just that ! Abuse of women in any country! |
bkkyosemite |
Apr-03-09 05:29 PM |
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Then you are as equally incensed about China forcing THEIR women to have abortions? nt |
ShortnFiery |
Apr-03-09 05:34 PM |
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You make no sense. This is not about China but ANY abuse of women is not acceptable but it seems to |
bkkyosemite |
Apr-03-09 05:41 PM |
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Again, I am just as applauded as you. However, this form of selective outrage is not healthy. |
ShortnFiery |
Apr-03-09 05:45 PM |
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don't say "we" I don't buddy up to them.. |
bkkyosemite |
Apr-03-09 05:47 PM |
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WE are American Citizens. So yes, we are a part of a government who "buddies up" to some very |
ShortnFiery |
Apr-03-09 05:54 PM |
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Your misunderstanding of the facts is vast. |
Zenlitened |
Apr-03-09 05:34 PM |
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No, that's the point. I FULLY understand the dire nature of this situation, but I live in ... |
ShortnFiery |
Apr-03-09 05:36 PM |
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Occupation has nothing to do with the torture of woman. So you heard the asshole who was beating the |
bkkyosemite |
Apr-03-09 05:45 PM |
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You've made it clear that you don't understand ANYTHING of the situation. |
Zenlitened |
Apr-03-09 05:47 PM |
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No, the only difference between you and I = I do not buy-into selective outrage just to |
ShortnFiery |
Apr-03-09 05:49 PM |
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I can and do speak from a position of moral superiority... |
Zenlitened |
Apr-03-09 05:54 PM |
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Good for you. It must be a very comfortable place to be in. I'm an American Citizen and I ... |
ShortnFiery |
Apr-03-09 05:55 PM |
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It's only done in your name if you can't be bothered to oppose it. |
Zenlitened |
Apr-03-09 06:02 PM |
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Please. The first time you wrote "applauded" for "appalled," I assumed it was just |
tblue37 |
Apr-03-09 07:13 PM |
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I think you mean appalled. n/t |
Justpat |
Apr-03-09 07:32 PM |
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Thank you, I stand corrected. |
ShortnFiery |
Apr-03-09 07:58 PM |
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Were you forced into marriage shortly after puberty |
wickerwoman |
Apr-06-09 02:12 AM |
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You assume the Taliban aren't enforcing their will on other peoples |
Hippo_Tron |
Apr-06-09 03:01 AM |
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Shut your trap fucking apologist |
Sultana |
Apr-03-09 05:21 PM |
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How mature. I see that I'm reaching you. |
ShortnFiery |
Apr-03-09 05:27 PM |
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And one doesn't excuse the other. |
Forkboy |
Apr-03-09 07:52 PM |
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shameful |
Kalyan |
Apr-03-09 10:40 PM |
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100% right, ShortnFiery. |
EFerrari |
Apr-03-09 10:46 PM |
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first of all, it's just not that hard to condemn both |
cali |
Apr-06-09 03:07 AM |
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And we're supposed to suck up to these barbarians |
pscot |
Apr-03-09 05:13 PM |
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Religious fanatics in this country do the same thing |
Tempest |
Apr-03-09 05:13 PM |
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another piece of pathetic. |
cali |
Apr-03-09 05:32 PM |
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"... it should not have been done in public..." |
Zenlitened |
Apr-03-09 05:15 PM |
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Ok, when do we invade Saudi Arabia, Israel and China? |
ShortnFiery |
Apr-03-09 05:41 PM |
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excerpt: |
bkkyosemite |
Apr-03-09 05:22 PM |
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I get so angry at what these women have to go through because of the illiterate brainwashed men and |
bkkyosemite |
Apr-03-09 05:27 PM |
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Don't we prop these guys up? |
norepubsin08 |
Apr-03-09 05:47 PM |
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Excellent question. |
ShortnFiery |
Apr-03-09 05:52 PM |
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We still support the Taleban? I thought the Cold War had ended? |
anonymous171 |
Apr-03-09 06:55 PM |
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What a terrible shame. Of course this kind of thing |
Liquorice |
Apr-03-09 06:12 PM |
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Think about the timing of this. |
Brucie Kibbutz |
Apr-03-09 06:14 PM |
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highly unlikely. |
cali |
Apr-03-09 06:16 PM |
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That remains to be seen. |
Brucie Kibbutz |
Apr-03-09 06:31 PM |
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oh for pity's sake. not everything is an evil american plot. |
cali |
Apr-03-09 06:47 PM |
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I didn't say this was for certain. |
Brucie Kibbutz |
Apr-03-09 07:01 PM |
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Taleban behead police officer in Pakistan: police ( this happened yesterday) how about that timing ? |
ohio2007 |
Apr-03-09 07:24 PM |
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I didn't say it was like Mayberry aside from this flogging. |
Brucie Kibbutz |
Apr-03-09 07:36 PM |
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Horrible. I wonder if there's any chance this will help |
JerseygirlCT |
Apr-03-09 07:38 PM |
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*Rabid Animals* you say? Not anything like the developed world and our use of "pretty weapons?" |
ShortnFiery |
Apr-03-09 07:56 PM |
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Do you think anyone else's horrific behavior makes theirs ok |
JerseygirlCT |
Apr-03-09 08:07 PM |
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No, it's all is bad. However, who do you think is going to take us seriously when we can't even |
ShortnFiery |
Apr-03-09 08:28 PM |
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Do you think there have been enough threads criticizing the wars America is involved in? |
friedgreentomatoes |
Apr-05-09 11:30 PM |
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No, more like this |
ohio2007 |
Apr-03-09 08:09 PM |
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Yes, sadly |
JerseygirlCT |
Apr-03-09 08:13 PM |
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Probably not. |
Igel |
Apr-03-09 09:28 PM |
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The Pakistani government doesn't have the power to stand up to the Taliban |
Hippo_Tron |
Apr-06-09 03:05 AM |
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She was beaten for refusing a marriage proposal made by "a righteous one" |
ohio2007 |
Apr-03-09 07:49 PM |
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Damn, and here I thought "The Righteous ONE" was always the God Almighty USA ... |
ShortnFiery |
Apr-03-09 07:57 PM |
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You have to serve somebody |
ohio2007 |
Apr-03-09 08:17 PM |
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That's so true. What's amazing to me is that Americans are able to partition away all the atrocity |
ShortnFiery |
Apr-03-09 08:23 PM |
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perhaps they needed 'rattling' w/ re: to the Taliban (nm) |
bevoette |
Apr-03-09 08:45 PM |
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If only their women are allowed to say this...: |
Catherine Vincent |
Apr-03-09 09:43 PM |
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If only their women are allowed to say this...: |
ohio2007 |
Apr-03-09 10:23 PM |
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Religious (Pakistan) parties reluctant to condemn girl’s lashing in Swat |
ohio2007 |
Apr-04-09 10:04 AM |
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