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189. Behind either of those men was the threat of violence.

Not that they made any threats but those in power understood that if these men were not dealt with that the angry masses without their staying hand would be angrier still.

Nothing is accomplished without force, even if it is only implied.
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  -I just don't get anarchists. Just don't. And Skidmore  Apr-01-09 03:42 PM   #0 
  - I don't think anarchist have thought beyond the point  canetoad   Apr-01-09 03:44 PM   #1 
  - They all kill each other because they think their version of anarchy is better.  Deja Q   Apr-01-09 03:50 PM   #7 
  - Yeah well  canetoad   Apr-01-09 04:02 PM   #16 
  - your taking your cues from t.v.  lxlxlxl   Apr-01-09 04:05 PM   #20 
     - Don't be silly  canetoad   Apr-01-09 04:12 PM   #26 
        - im not expecting a revolution, but i dont think cheaply insulting people on the street is worth it  lxlxlxl   Apr-01-09 04:34 PM   #47 
        - Thuggish foot soldiers can be idealists too...  LooseWilly   Apr-03-09 04:17 PM   #211 
  - Welp...you're gonna get ambushed by a few of them here...  YOY   Apr-01-09 03:45 PM   #2 
  - I have seen those mass arrests, I almost got caught in one myself at the RNC  Bjorn Against   Apr-01-09 04:24 PM   #38 
  - So are they still in jail in some massive holding tank?  YOY   Apr-01-09 04:35 PM   #50 
     - The city of St. Paul had to drop the charges on all of the protesters because they had no evidence.  Bjorn Against   Apr-01-09 04:44 PM   #55 
        - and you shouldn't have masked yourselves. Good on you.  YOY   Apr-01-09 04:47 PM   #57 
           - The problem is the vast majority of people who are getting the shaft are peaceful.  Bjorn Against   Apr-01-09 04:51 PM   #58 
           - DCer here. I have seen every time the masked kids show up things have a habit of turning messy.  YOY   Apr-01-09 04:53 PM   #59 
              - Its all about breaking shit...  LooseWilly   Apr-03-09 04:06 PM   #209 
           - Here's the problem:  XemaSab   Apr-01-09 07:45 PM   #72 
  - The masks are for the tear gas, not so much the photos.  LooseWilly   Apr-03-09 03:55 PM   #208 
  - cue the long line of DUers to set you straight.  cali   Apr-01-09 03:46 PM   #3 
  - I hope you're being sarcastic, Cali... n/t  rvablue   Apr-01-09 03:53 PM   #8 
  - I'm reflecting the sentiments of quite a few DUers  cali   Apr-01-09 03:54 PM   #10 
     - not true  Two Americas   Apr-01-09 04:17 PM   #33 
     - where are you getting your information?  G_j   Apr-01-09 09:36 PM   #102 
  - that is not true, it is just not true  Two Americas   Apr-01-09 04:15 PM   #31 
  - oh, please. take your sanctimony and smoke it  cali   Apr-01-09 04:21 PM   #35 
  - yes  Two Americas   Apr-01-09 04:30 PM   #44 
  - +1  Raineyb   Apr-03-09 01:44 PM   #199 
  - They can no more prove they were broken by an infiltrator than you can prove they weren't  Downtown Hound   Apr-03-09 12:52 AM   #173 
  - Hehe... poor London cops.  LooseWilly   Apr-03-09 04:31 PM   #214 
  - actually, cali is right  paulsby   Apr-01-09 04:44 PM   #54 
  - damned protestors  Two Americas   Apr-01-09 05:08 PM   #62 
  - And a year or two ago, protestors restrained rock-throwing protestors in Canada.  ieoeja   Apr-02-09 11:03 AM   #158 
  - Hey officer, here's the incident is Ieoeja talking about  Downtown Hound   Apr-03-09 01:08 AM   #175 
  - They interviewed a protestor on BBC "I'm here for the violence, I don't believe in anything"  HughMoran   Apr-03-09 08:36 AM   #188 
  - It's called "irreverence," and is common with people who lack a proper critique.  joshcryer   Apr-01-09 07:54 PM   #81 
  - You've never wanted to break a bankers window?  joshcryer   Apr-01-09 07:53 PM   #79 
  - For the Nth time...I t  Cid_B   Apr-02-09 05:02 AM   #125 
  - Not really  auburnblu   Apr-03-09 01:06 AM   #174 
  - those people are not representative of all, dare say many, anarchists  NightWatcher   Apr-01-09 03:47 PM   #4 
  - The DU Anarcho-communists are always a hoot.  FLAprogressive   Apr-01-09 03:49 PM   #5 
  - I have told a friend this  Artie Bucco   Apr-01-09 04:11 PM   #25 
  - Why is it pathetic to be unarmed, yet still believe that government  step up   Apr-02-09 10:56 AM   #153 
  - Says who? You?  Downtown Hound   Apr-03-09 02:04 AM   #180 
  - Nevermind the irony of an anarchist using the internet in the first place. n/t  Raskolnik   Apr-01-09 04:25 PM   #41 
  - Yeah, anarchists are all Amish  Lilith Velkor   Apr-01-09 06:51 PM   #64 
  - So true. Anarchists are not one homogenous group.  joshcryer   Apr-01-09 07:52 PM   #77 
  - If you don't see the irony in an anarchist embracing the internet,  Raskolnik   Apr-01-09 08:47 PM   #94 
     - You use the word "necessary" quite wrecklessly there.  joshcryer   Apr-01-09 09:39 PM   #103 
     - It would be quite a novel position to maintain that government resources were not necessary  Raskolnik   Apr-02-09 07:33 AM   #130 
        - That's like saying Obama must support slavery because he lives in a house built by slaves  Lilith Velkor   Apr-02-09 10:59 AM   #156 
        - No, it really isn't. n/t  Raskolnik   Apr-02-09 11:16 PM   #169 
           - Yes, it is.  Lilith Velkor   Apr-03-09 12:15 AM   #170 
              - Your analogies are off-base.  Raskolnik   Apr-03-09 07:57 AM   #185 
                 - You find it ironic only because you are uninformed.  Lilith Velkor   Apr-03-09 12:23 PM   #196 
                    - If you think I'm going to go down the rabbit-hole of exploring which variant of "anarchism"  Raskolnik   Apr-03-09 01:38 PM   #198 
                       - The internet would not be possible without the mathematics developed in 10th-c. Baghdad  Lilith Velkor   Apr-03-09 02:33 PM   #202 
                          - The internet is much more than a stand-alone "technology"  Raskolnik   Apr-03-09 03:08 PM   #203 
                             - Uh, the internet is based upon a few dozen routing protocols.  joshcryer   Apr-03-09 06:13 PM   #222 
        - I'm going to help out a comrade here. You actually picked a really pathetic example.  joshcryer   Apr-03-09 06:11 PM   #221 
     - A lot of hippies and counter culture types went into developing it as well  Downtown Hound   Apr-03-09 01:35 AM   #179 
  - Please explain to me why an anarchist is not allowed to use the internet...  Downtown Hound   Apr-03-09 01:13 AM   #176 
     - And if I had said that anarchists "aren't allowed to use the internet"  Raskolnik   Apr-03-09 07:52 AM   #184 
        - It's implied in your statement  Downtown Hound   Apr-03-09 03:42 PM   #206 
           - I wasn't aware that we were discussing Linux. Just let me get my fanny pack and sword collection,  Raskolnik   Apr-03-09 03:50 PM   #207 
              - I wasn't talking about a Hummer  Downtown Hound   Apr-03-09 04:06 PM   #210 
                 - Who is backing away from anything?  Raskolnik   Apr-03-09 04:18 PM   #212 
                    - Way to avoid my question  Downtown Hound   Apr-03-09 04:38 PM   #215 
                       - Um, ok.  Raskolnik   Apr-03-09 04:52 PM   #216 
                          - Are we allowed to use the swimming pool?  Downtown Hound   Apr-03-09 04:56 PM   #217 
                             - Oh, get over yourself.  Raskolnik   Apr-03-09 04:59 PM   #218 
                                - Peace, love, and anarchy to you friend. n/t  Downtown Hound   Apr-03-09 05:02 PM   #219 
  - An anarchist for gun control? Do tell.  joshcryer   Apr-01-09 07:51 PM   #75 
  - Use both hands.  Lilith Velkor   Apr-01-09 08:26 PM   #91 
  - I love when anarchists hold their pre-convention press conference on C-Span  ProudToBeBlueInRhody   Apr-03-09 03:36 PM   #205 
  - At my peril, I'll state my privately held opinion about anarchists:  LeftinOH   Apr-01-09 03:49 PM   #6 
  - Funny, I have the same opinion.  ogneopasno   Apr-01-09 03:54 PM   #9 
  - and let them be infiltrated by provocateurs really easily.  YOY   Apr-01-09 03:56 PM   #13 
  - Teabagging with right-wingers is its own punishment.  burning rain   Apr-02-09 03:20 AM   #123 
  - Tell it to the "SWAT" teams...N/T  catnhatnh   Apr-01-09 04:35 PM   #48 
  - lets all just sit at home and watch tv/internet  lxlxlxl   Apr-01-09 04:13 PM   #27 
  - Anarchy != progressive politics  FLAprogressive   Apr-01-09 04:17 PM   #32 
  - Anarchism is the *father* of progressive politics. The anarchists got killed by the communists...  joshcryer   Apr-01-09 07:56 PM   #83 
  - If you think that smashing other people's shit and sitting at home watching tv are the only choices  Raskolnik   Apr-01-09 04:24 PM   #39 
  - you might be misinformed if im going to reply to a cheap insult with a political manifesto  lxlxlxl   Apr-01-09 04:30 PM   #45 
  - You are the one that implied that sitting at home watching tv was the only alternative  Raskolnik   Apr-01-09 04:33 PM   #46 
  - Are anarchists smashing your shit? Really? I've never had my shit smashed by anarchists.  readmoreoften   Apr-01-09 07:51 PM   #76 
     - Please point out where I suggested that. Thanks. n/t  Raskolnik   Apr-01-09 08:48 PM   #96 
        - You said "people's shit". Who are these "people" who own a bank?  readmoreoften   Apr-01-09 10:48 PM   #108 
           - That's right. Taking extra sugar packets or planting your own garden is just like smashing windows  Raskolnik   Apr-02-09 07:30 AM   #128 
  - No understanding of history whatsoever.  blindpig   Apr-03-09 08:20 AM   #186 
  - 'til Mommy and Daddy finally notice them,  gardenista   Apr-01-09 06:58 PM   #65 
  - It's like kids in the mosh pit. They're there because they need it.  TexasObserver   Apr-02-09 05:17 AM   #126 
  - I see it as kind of a sophmoric trend... then they either grow up or they wind up  rvablue   Apr-01-09 03:55 PM   #11 
  - Anarchists almost by definition don't care about consequences. n/t  geek tragedy   Apr-01-09 03:56 PM   #12 
  - I Don't Agree With Them, But I Support What They're Doing  NashVegas   Apr-01-09 03:58 PM   #14 
  - those aren't the only choices. See Gandhi and King.  cali   Apr-01-09 04:00 PM   #15 
     - It is better to be violent, if there is violence in our hearts,  billyoc   Apr-01-09 04:04 PM   #19 
     - Lovely Quote  NashVegas   Apr-01-09 04:37 PM   #51 
     - yep, no violence there, boy. historical amnesia.  Hannah Bell   Apr-01-09 04:08 PM   #22 
     - Are you even paying attention?  lxlxlxl   Apr-01-09 04:11 PM   #24 
     - duh, no shit, genius. And I've said that repeatedly  cali   Apr-01-09 04:23 PM   #37 
     - Behind either of those men was the threat of violence.  blindpig   Apr-03-09 08:41 AM   #189 
  - that is your definition of violence?  lxlxlxl   Apr-01-09 04:02 PM   #17 
  - people who pull that stupid shit, put everyone else in danger.  cali   Apr-01-09 04:25 PM   #40 
  - You don't have to get them, you just have to think demonstrations are SCAAARY  Overseas   Apr-01-09 04:03 PM   #18 
  - Please don't  canetoad   Apr-01-09 04:14 PM   #29 
  - I don't think that's what Overseas was saying.  Kitty Herder   Apr-01-09 07:04 PM   #67 
  - All the more reason why those who choose to be violent jackasses are not helping anyone  Raskolnik   Apr-01-09 04:22 PM   #36 
  - It's the post-pubescent version of "You're not the boss of me!"  Seeking Serenity   Apr-01-09 04:06 PM   #21 
  - what the hell...  lxlxlxl   Apr-01-09 04:15 PM   #30 
  - I had a group of Anarchist friends,  roughsatori   Apr-01-09 04:10 PM   #23 
  - LOL!  WestSeattle2   Apr-01-09 08:42 PM   #93 
  - Ahhh yes we had over 500,000 for the anti - surge demonstration in DC.  peace13   Apr-01-09 04:14 PM   #28 
  - It all comes down to a line from a RAGE song.  TexasObserver   Apr-01-09 04:20 PM   #34 
  - Peaceful war protests didn't stop the war  daleo   Apr-01-09 04:26 PM   #42 
  - Neither did violent war protests. n/t  Raskolnik   Apr-01-09 04:27 PM   #43 
     - Which ones were those?  daleo   Apr-01-09 04:35 PM   #49 
        - I believe military stalemate and strategic defeat ended the Vietnam war, not protests  Raskolnik   Apr-01-09 04:40 PM   #53 
           - I think it contributed to the military stalemate  daleo   Apr-01-09 04:46 PM   #56 
  - What is this in response to?  timtom   Apr-01-09 04:37 PM   #52 
  - Good job on those war protests!  alcibiades_mystery   Apr-01-09 04:54 PM   #60 
  - Thanks for stating that better than I could've  Echo In Light   Apr-01-09 05:07 PM   #61 
  - THANK YOU!  readmoreoften   Apr-01-09 07:48 PM   #74 
  - Yes, you get it these protests do make a big difference.  Bjorn Against   Apr-01-09 10:37 PM   #107 
  - I think the notion of agent provocateurs is way overblown  alcibiades_mystery   Apr-01-09 11:32 PM   #118 
     - You're ignoring an awful lot of history to make that statement..  Fumesucker   Apr-02-09 03:14 AM   #122 
     - It was an overblown phenomenon then, and remains so  alcibiades_mystery   Apr-02-09 08:08 AM   #136 
        - The heated debate in this and other recent similar threads ....  Echo In Light   Apr-02-09 09:46 AM   #145 
        - Cops don't need justification  Lilith Velkor   Apr-03-09 12:40 AM   #172 
        - You're probably right  Downtown Hound   Apr-03-09 01:26 AM   #177 
     - Agreed w/your earlier posting, but we part company on this one  Echo In Light   Apr-02-09 07:43 AM   #133 
  - Good post. n/t  Downtown Hound   Apr-03-09 02:25 AM   #181 
  - The greater the perceived injustice, the greater the violence.  Orsino   Apr-01-09 06:17 PM   #63 
  - Most anti-Globalism protesters are not anarchists.  New Dawn   Apr-01-09 06:58 PM   #66 
  - Consider the fact they might be agents provocateurs.  alarimer   Apr-01-09 07:07 PM   #68 
  - Gandhi, the father of peaceful protests, was an Anarchist.  Tierra_y_Libertad   Apr-01-09 07:12 PM   #69 
  - That most anarchist-caused violence seems to be by young males tells me all I need to know.  Odin2005   Apr-01-09 07:19 PM   #70 
  - That Henry David Thoreau.... always getting violent and smashing things out by the pond  TBF   Apr-01-09 07:41 PM   #71 
  - You can't have a complex society without a government.  Odin2005   Apr-01-09 07:53 PM   #78 
  - That picture shows their ignorance...  MellowDem   Apr-01-09 08:01 PM   #85 
     - How is it vague? What part don't you understand?  TBF   Apr-01-09 08:14 PM   #89 
        - What about capitalism kills?  MellowDem   Apr-01-09 08:20 PM   #90 
           - I see. The thing with capitalism is that it inherently kills by it's very nature.  TBF   Apr-01-09 09:23 PM   #100 
           - It "inherently kills" huh?  MellowDem   Apr-02-09 07:28 AM   #127 
              - I do believe it kills by it's very nature -  TBF   Apr-02-09 09:10 AM   #143 
                 - That's ok  MellowDem   Apr-02-09 09:31 AM   #144 
                    - Globalization in the end will help equalize wealth -  TBF   Apr-02-09 10:34 AM   #149 
                       - I suppose we are in agreement in general  MellowDem   Apr-02-09 01:00 PM   #165 
           - Capitalism is the extraction of profit from labor. That kills.  readmoreoften   Apr-01-09 11:01 PM   #111 
              - Capitalism does not equal class structure  MellowDem   Apr-02-09 07:41 AM   #132 
                 - Bollocks  blindpig   Apr-03-09 08:57 AM   #190 
                    - When have humans existed without class structures  MellowDem   Apr-03-09 12:44 PM   #197 
                       - You are either utterly confused, or something.  blindpig   Apr-03-09 01:58 PM   #200 
                          - Capitalism is simply an economic system  MellowDem   Apr-03-09 02:24 PM   #201 
                             - no, no, no  blindpig   Apr-03-09 04:24 PM   #213 
                                - Please provide examples  MellowDem   Apr-03-09 05:29 PM   #220 
                                   - Easy  blindpig   Apr-04-09 07:41 AM   #225 
  - I'm not sure "peaceful war protests" are a good counter-argument since they've had zero effect.  readmoreoften   Apr-01-09 07:46 PM   #73 
  - Yup, breaking windows and torching cars! that will show those evil imperialists! *SARCASM*  Odin2005   Apr-01-09 07:56 PM   #82 
     - We're talking about it, aren't we? Maybe then you might read a bit about anarchist history.  joshcryer   Apr-01-09 08:02 PM   #86 
     - Frankly, I think your attitude is every inch as sick and violent as those of Republicans.  readmoreoften   Apr-01-09 10:31 PM   #105 
  - If there was no violent protest there would've been no gay rights movement.  readmoreoften   Apr-01-09 07:54 PM   #80 
  - "The ends justify the means" isn't a good argument, at least not a moral one.  Odin2005   Apr-01-09 07:57 PM   #84 
     - I didn't say the ends justified the means. The means AND the ends were justified.  readmoreoften   Apr-01-09 10:34 PM   #106 
        - Totally stupid comparison.  Odin2005   Apr-03-09 11:41 AM   #195 
  - the irony of anarchists organising  iamthebandfanman   Apr-01-09 08:03 PM   #87 
  - Actually anarchist philosophy depends on strong community organization.  Bjorn Against   Apr-01-09 08:11 PM   #88 
  - There is individualistic anarchism and collective anarchism - a good place  TBF   Apr-01-09 09:11 PM   #97 
  - This is true, I am aware of the differences.  Bjorn Against   Apr-01-09 09:23 PM   #99 
     - Thank you, that's a great resource. I particularly like this part of the interview-  TBF   Apr-01-09 09:36 PM   #101 
     - There was a comp of Chomsky's essays, speeches and interviews re anarchism a few yrs back  Echo In Light   Apr-02-09 12:54 PM   #163 
  - That is exactly the problem I have with Anarchism, top-down coercion is sometimes needed...  Odin2005   Apr-03-09 11:35 AM   #192 
  - Anarchism isn't against organization.  killbotfactory   Apr-01-09 11:27 PM   #116 
  - What's to get?  WestSeattle2   Apr-01-09 08:37 PM   #92 
  - this thread is a great example of why -- at least some americans --  xchrom   Apr-01-09 08:47 PM   #95 
  - Americans are complacant fools, generally speaking. They never went through the same history...  joshcryer   Apr-01-09 09:42 PM   #104 
  - Brilliant observation!  lonestarnot   Apr-01-09 10:57 PM   #110 
  - Smashing stuff doesn't = Protesting.  chrisa   Apr-02-09 10:50 AM   #151 
     - but the Financials can smash and steal right?  xchrom   Apr-02-09 10:59 AM   #155 
        - If you act exactly like the people you're against,  chrisa   Apr-02-09 11:15 AM   #159 
           - useless sophistry.  xchrom   Apr-02-09 11:44 AM   #160 
  - Why So Serious?  Badlands Democrat   Apr-01-09 09:13 PM   #98 
  - Anyone here  Orwellian_Ghost   Apr-01-09 10:56 PM   #109 
  - Nope. Basically the thread is about perpetuating status quo propaganda about anarchism.  readmoreoften   Apr-01-09 11:04 PM   #112 
  - "Windows are People Too"  leftstreet   Apr-01-09 11:30 PM   #117 
  - I don't understand it  killbotfactory   Apr-01-09 11:22 PM   #115 
  - Anarchists are an interesting bunch. nt  anonymous171   Apr-01-09 11:08 PM   #113 
  - Oh my!  killbotfactory   Apr-01-09 11:18 PM   #114 
  - They're kind of like goths. Only political.  Hanse   Apr-02-09 01:20 AM   #119 
  - Yes, and we like to drink your children's blood when you're not looking.  TheWatcher   Apr-02-09 10:11 AM   #147 
  - I get the anger, I get the protesting against the government, I don't get anarchy  Jennicut   Apr-02-09 02:15 AM   #120 
  - The anarchists have a point. civilization would be better off without government.  Mr. Hyde   Apr-02-09 02:58 AM   #121 
  - Hmmm, so you'd like to see the country turned into a giant trash  SeattleGirl   Apr-02-09 03:32 AM   #124 
  - some would argue that it has already become a giant trash heap  Mr. Hyde   Apr-02-09 07:43 AM   #134 
  - How's that working out in Somalia? n/t  Raskolnik   Apr-02-09 07:34 AM   #131 
  - well, it isn't true anarchy there is it. There isn't an absence of government  Mr. Hyde   Apr-02-09 07:45 AM   #135 
     - That's because Somalia exists in the real world, where men with guns tend to fill power vacuums. n/t  Raskolnik   Apr-02-09 08:10 AM   #137 
        - using Somalia as an example of anarchy is ridiculous  G_j   Apr-02-09 08:23 AM   #138 
           - I used Somalia as a counter-example to the statement "civilization would be better off  Raskolnik   Apr-02-09 08:30 AM   #140 
           - That's because the political philosophical conceptions have lost touch with reality.  Odin2005   Apr-02-09 11:00 AM   #157 
              - ...or, if it goes against the prevailing ideologies people are indoctrinated into believing/exalting  Echo In Light   Apr-02-09 01:08 PM   #166 
                 - People are inherwently perfect and only indoctrinated into thinking they aren't, eh? BS!!!  Odin2005   Apr-02-09 01:13 PM   #167 
                    - The point is, anyone will be influenced by the prevailing public opinions of their time/locale  Echo In Light   Apr-02-09 04:44 PM   #168 
  - No government = no civilization.  Odin2005   Apr-02-09 10:57 AM   #154 
     - All the proposed "anarchist societies" I have seen are inherently unstable, and would collapse into  Mr. Hyde   Apr-03-09 05:23 AM   #182 
        - The point being you can't get rid of government, you can only try to minimize...  Odin2005   Apr-03-09 11:29 AM   #191 
  - Anarchists have as much violence in them  BoneDaddy   Apr-02-09 07:31 AM   #129 
  - You're equating a few broken windows with the deaths of a million Iraqis?  Downtown Hound   Apr-03-09 01:30 AM   #178 
     - No, not at all  BoneDaddy   Apr-03-09 06:54 AM   #183 
        - Is somebody that gets in a fist fight the same as a serial killer?  Downtown Hound   Apr-03-09 03:32 PM   #204 
  - It's always better when the oppressed don't fight back, isn't it?  Political Heretic   Apr-02-09 08:28 AM   #139 
  - the oppressed my ass.  cali   Apr-02-09 08:34 AM   #141 
  - I was sickened watching some of the protestors yesterday  JerseygirlCT   Apr-02-09 08:36 AM   #142 
  - Because the other way hasn't worked?  step up   Apr-02-09 10:54 AM   #152 
     - That's just silliness talking, I'm afraid.  JerseygirlCT   Apr-02-09 12:52 PM   #162 
     - It doesn't..  chrisa   Apr-03-09 08:30 AM   #187 
  - *  Echo In Light   Apr-02-09 09:57 AM   #146 
  - The bankers jeering the crowds and waving  juno jones   Apr-02-09 10:28 AM   #148 
  - You don't smell a rat here? I do...  step up   Apr-02-09 10:42 AM   #150 
  - How does anyone know if those so called "anarchists" aren't plants to make the peaceful protesters  earth mom   Apr-02-09 11:54 AM   #161 
  - I know DC anarchists  Lilith Velkor   Apr-03-09 12:24 AM   #171 
  - after the S11 protests in Melbourne  Djinn   Apr-04-09 12:58 AM   #224 
  - "Say what you will about the tenants of National Socialism..."  specimenfred1984   Apr-02-09 12:59 PM   #164 
  - THERE ARE NO ANARCHISTS. Only undercover cops and angry teens egged on by the cops.  slampoet   Apr-03-09 11:39 AM   #193 
  - It's Quite Simple: Most Anarchists Lack Any Critical Thinking Ability.  OPERATIONMINDCRIME   Apr-03-09 11:39 AM   #194 
     - I do not think you can qualify as an anarchist unless you have at least a basic understanding of...  joshcryer   Apr-03-09 06:16 PM   #223 
 

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