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Response to Reply #85
87. No, but Republicans have been courting them more actively
Honestly, I'm generally pretty hostile to organized religion, but I'm open to pandering if it gets who I want elected.
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  -Obama invites anti-gay Dungy to serve on "Faith-Based" council. (I know,he will only sing one song.) Bluebear  Mar-31-09 10:05 PM   #0 
  - Bush could have done that . . . !!!  defendandprotect   Mar-31-09 10:08 PM   #1 
  - I prefer reality-based  Horse with no Name   Mar-31-09 10:10 PM   #2 
  - Agreed. Living in delusion is far less satisfying than reality.  Zhade   Apr-02-09 08:57 PM   #290 
  - establishment of a state religion takes another flying leap forward nt  msongs   Mar-31-09 10:10 PM   #3 
  - The Council should be disbanded, talk about a horrible idea...  Solon   Mar-31-09 10:14 PM   #4 
  - I agree with that--and that Office of Faith Based Initiatives should be turned into the  MADem   Mar-31-09 11:06 PM   #18 
  - Not only federal funds, these churches host weekly gambling as regluar source of income.  Sunnyshine   Apr-01-09 03:06 AM   #32 
     - I really do think it's past time for taxation and regulation.  MADem   Apr-01-09 08:40 AM   #47 
  - obama needs to get rid of it  noiretextatique   Apr-01-09 04:06 PM   #101 
  - I still don't understand what purpose it serves, since when was it the government's...  Solon   Apr-01-09 04:12 PM   #105 
  - Their purpose is  skepticscott   Apr-01-09 09:45 PM   #155 
  - I am not happy.  Starry Messenger   Mar-31-09 10:17 PM   #5 
  - It's great politics to reach out to evangelical Christians. It's also terrible policy.  Occam Bandage   Mar-31-09 10:19 PM   #6 
  - I don't know why Obama keeps  LuvNewcastle   Mar-31-09 10:22 PM   #7 
  - The dilemma is that if you fight for gay equal rights at DU you will be attacked  roughsatori   Mar-31-09 10:23 PM   #8 
  - When you're right, you're right.  Bluebear   Mar-31-09 10:30 PM   #10 
  - enough with the Poutrage  mitchtv   Mar-31-09 10:32 PM   #11 
  - At least they're repealing Don't Ask, Don't Tell.  Bluebear   Mar-31-09 10:33 PM   #12 
  - Didn't they already do that?  Rockholm   Apr-02-09 04:43 PM   #221 
  - I am Poutraged!  roughsatori   Mar-31-09 11:01 PM   #16 
  - Right! Of course! The super secret squirrel action plan!  closeupready   Apr-02-09 04:05 PM   #204 
  - +1  Rhythm   Mar-31-09 11:13 PM   #20 
  - Exactly.  FLAprogressive   Apr-01-09 05:24 AM   #38 
  - There is a difference between criticizing the cozying up to  geek tragedy   Apr-01-09 07:24 AM   #42 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Apr-01-09 11:29 AM   #62 
  - Ain't that the truth. I'm sick of it.  tbyg52   Apr-01-09 05:46 PM   #125 
  - its sadly true.  lies and propaganda   Apr-02-09 10:05 AM   #180 
  - Sigue cabron  mitchtv   Mar-31-09 10:30 PM   #9 
  - I want to know if there is a budget for this outfit.  EFerrari   Mar-31-09 10:39 PM   #13 
  - Why is the WH sponsoring "Faith-based" anything?  Canuckistanian   Mar-31-09 10:46 PM   #14 
  - This is bullshit. Enough with these fucking people.  Maven   Mar-31-09 11:00 PM   #15 
  - K&R  roughsatori   Mar-31-09 11:05 PM   #17 
  - Just another example of Obama wiping his ass  mitchtv   Mar-31-09 11:07 PM   #19 
  - Obama invited Concerned Women of America last week . . ??!!!  defendandprotect   Apr-01-09 02:34 PM   #73 
     - Sorry , I believe I am wrong on that post  mitchtv   Apr-01-09 04:03 PM   #100 
  - This is not surprising.  ColbertWatcher   Mar-31-09 11:16 PM   #21 
  - This is what I don't understand  Chovexani   Apr-01-09 01:29 AM   #22 
  - I dont get a "Pat Robertson" vibe from Dungy.  MadBadger   Apr-01-09 02:20 AM   #26 
  - You wouldn't  NMMNG   Apr-01-09 04:39 AM   #34 
  - He is staunchly against civil rights for all Americans  Chovexani   Apr-01-09 06:23 PM   #129 
     - True, but do you have evidence that he wants to setup a "tinhat theocratic dictatorship."  MadBadger   Apr-01-09 06:49 PM   #133 
        - Saying he doesn't reach Pat Robertson territory is setting the bar as low it can possibly go.  Bjorn Against   Apr-02-09 09:00 AM   #174 
  - I would think it's statistically impossible for there to be more batshit insane fundys ...  ColbertWatcher   Apr-01-09 05:30 AM   #39 
  - I would rather it be gotten rid of altogether too  Chovexani   Apr-01-09 06:27 PM   #130 
  - Excellent point . .!!  defendandprotect   Apr-01-09 02:48 PM   #80 
  - Obama is clearly not comfortable with us gays.  Zhade   Apr-02-09 08:59 PM   #291 
  - That's a narrow view of people of faith. But a pattern has formed with Obama. nt  Captain Hilts   Apr-01-09 09:08 PM   #146 
  - So, when are those of us who disagree permitted to speak up?  Missy Vixen   Apr-01-09 01:33 AM   #23 
  - You're allowed to speak up any time you like,  Brucie Kibbutz   Apr-01-09 09:23 PM   #152 
  - +1  Bluebear   Apr-03-09 02:22 AM   #304 
  - The President maintaining this Bush creation is an affront to our Constitution.  Mithreal   Apr-01-09 01:58 AM   #24 
  - Is there a counterbalance to the anti-gay sentiment on this "council"?  MrSlayer   Apr-01-09 02:11 AM   #25 
  - Is that Al swearengen in your sig line? :D  Political Heretic   Apr-01-09 02:22 AM   #28 
  - My all time favorite character.  MrSlayer   Apr-01-09 02:35 AM   #29 
  - These are the members  SpartanDem   Apr-01-09 02:36 AM   #30 
     - Fred Davie, an openly gay man, is on the council.  MrSlayer   Apr-01-09 03:08 AM   #33 
        - That's like saying it's okay to have a guy from the KKK on a comittee as long he is balance out.....  Marrah_G   Apr-01-09 08:18 AM   #46 
  - When will I see a headline like this:  Political Heretic   Apr-01-09 02:20 AM   #27 
  - "Does this only flow one fucking way?"  LostinVA   Apr-01-09 05:14 AM   #36 
  - Given that Obama already has appointed an openly gay member to the faith council...  ieoeja   Apr-01-09 10:23 AM   #58 
  - One gay Christian  NMMNG   Apr-01-09 04:09 PM   #104 
  - One gay christian does not balance out an anti-gay activist  Marrah_G   Apr-02-09 09:07 AM   #176 
     - That's pretty much the point I was making  NMMNG   Apr-02-09 04:59 PM   #231 
  - "We'll tell you what you need to know and we'll tell you how to feel about it!"  FiveGoodMen   Apr-01-09 05:05 PM   #114 
  - *sigh*  Jamastiene   Apr-01-09 02:52 AM   #31 
  - Great -- yet anti anti-gay bigot enabled and endorsed by the White House  LostinVA   Apr-01-09 05:10 AM   #35 
  - Just one more inconvenient truth about Obama. :(  OmmmSweetOmmm   Apr-01-09 05:19 AM   #37 
  - time to meet the underside of a bus, yet again.  FLAprogressive   Apr-01-09 05:33 AM   #40 
  - K&R  Solly Mack   Apr-01-09 06:05 AM   #41 
  - Why the fuck do we have a faith based anything in govt?  progressoid   Apr-01-09 08:03 AM   #43 
  - Once again Obama follows in Bush's footsteps.  liberalsince1968   Apr-01-09 08:08 AM   #44 
  - Why? Why does he keep slapping the GBLT people in the face with this shit?  Marrah_G   Apr-01-09 08:16 AM   #45 
  - Because he's trying to build the largest possible coalition of Americans...  Orsino   Apr-01-09 08:54 AM   #48 
     - The problem is that he is CHOOSING anti-gay activists  Marrah_G   Apr-01-09 09:27 AM   #49 
        - It's not just a problem. It's integral to his strategy.  Orsino   Apr-01-09 09:36 AM   #50 
           - I find myself getting more and more disillusioned with every person in DC.  Marrah_G   Apr-01-09 09:38 AM   #51 
           - In this matter, though, they reflect America's profound conservatism.  Orsino   Apr-01-09 09:56 AM   #55 
              - Exactly.  cliffordu   Apr-01-09 10:17 PM   #162 
           - and I don't really get why *every* serious contender does this  Bill McBlueState   Apr-01-09 09:46 AM   #53 
              - We can be magnanimous, once we're assured of our supremacy.  Orsino   Apr-01-09 10:26 AM   #59 
  - here come the obama can do no wrong apologists. nt  Mari333   Apr-01-09 09:39 AM   #52 
  - there actually aren't that many apologists on this thread yet  Bill McBlueState   Apr-01-09 09:47 AM   #54 
     - I think most people are coming to grips with the reality  Marrah_G   Apr-01-09 10:09 AM   #56 
     - Because this is GP.  kiva   Apr-01-09 09:23 PM   #151 
  - ZOMG...when will u stop screaming about teh pony??!?!?  bullwinkle428   Apr-01-09 10:18 AM   #57 
  - Fuck. This. Shit.  Hell Hath No Fury   Apr-01-09 10:52 AM   #60 
  - Another FUCKING HOMOPHOBE appointed by Obama  dbackjon   Apr-01-09 11:25 AM   #61 
  - What a bunch of bullshit. This "faith-based" crap has got to go.  krabigirl   Apr-01-09 11:52 AM   #63 
  - But faith is a virtue  skepticscott   Apr-01-09 09:53 PM   #156 
  - I'm so glad things have changed so dramatically  nichomachus   Apr-01-09 11:57 AM   #64 
  - Here's a bit from Wiki on Dungy  swishyfeet   Apr-01-09 01:47 PM   #65 
  - Ed Gein was very kind to his mother. n/t  QC   Apr-01-09 02:01 PM   #66 
  - Ed Gein was a psycho killer  swishyfeet   Apr-01-09 02:25 PM   #70 
     - Insisting that an outspoken homophobe is actually a good guy is morally squalid,  QC   Apr-01-09 04:14 PM   #106 
     - :nodding:  Bluebear   Apr-02-09 08:53 PM   #289 
     - And Dungy is an extremist bigot  LostinVA   Apr-01-09 05:19 PM   #117 
     - What you cite is standard cliche' Christianity  Oak2004   Apr-02-09 06:52 PM   #285 
  - Here's another bit from USA Today:  foxfeet   Apr-01-09 02:03 PM   #67 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Apr-01-09 02:18 PM   #68 
     - Being a homophobic fuck doesn't exclude a person from doing "work"  RedCappedBandit   Apr-01-09 02:38 PM   #76 
     - Lots of every race is religiously conservative  Bluenorthwest   Apr-01-09 02:57 PM   #83 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Apr-01-09 03:14 PM   #86 
     - He IS a "homophobic fuck" (your words, not mine), and nothing he does negates his hate  LostinVA   Apr-01-09 05:22 PM   #118 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Apr-01-09 06:41 PM   #131 
     - Yeah and David Duke had some good qualities too.......  Marrah_G   Apr-01-09 10:09 PM   #158 
  - yup he's a prick  mitchtv   Apr-01-09 02:28 PM   #71 
  - So now Dungy = Hitler and that guy from Psycho.  swishyfeet   Apr-01-09 02:34 PM   #74 
     - No, but he does equal Pat Robertson  Bluenorthwest   Apr-01-09 02:54 PM   #82 
     - Ed Gein wasn't in PSYCHO. He was the inspiration for THE TEXAS CHAINSAW MASSACRE.  Zhade   Apr-02-09 09:23 PM   #293 
  - If he were as racist as he is anti gay would you be OK with him on a White House board?  dsc   Apr-01-09 02:41 PM   #78 
  - apparently being African American excuses him  mitchtv   Apr-01-09 03:24 PM   #88 
  - I'm not sure he's as anti gay as you think  swishyfeet   Apr-01-09 03:45 PM   #94 
     - Oh for fucks sake, he's NOT a decent man...  Solon   Apr-01-09 04:17 PM   #108 
     - Those who voted for Obama  Kaleva   Apr-02-09 10:20 AM   #183 
     - If you are against gay marriage  Starry Messenger   Apr-01-09 04:20 PM   #109 
     - I don't see an iota of "blind hatred" on this thread -- nice strawman  LostinVA   Apr-01-09 05:24 PM   #119 
     - Do you also call racists decent men?  WhollyHeretic   Apr-01-09 06:43 PM   #132 
     - omfg.  Marrah_G   Apr-01-09 10:11 PM   #159 
     - And opposing interracial marriage would not make one a racist, I suppose n/t  TechBear_Seattle   Apr-02-09 08:53 AM   #173 
     - +1  Bluebear   Apr-02-09 08:26 PM   #287 
     - Did you write what I'm seeing here?  LooseWilly   Apr-02-09 10:26 PM   #300 
  - He'a an out and proud bigot -- what civil right do YOU want to give up?  LostinVA   Apr-01-09 05:18 PM   #116 
  - As long as they are straight??  OwnedByFerrets   Apr-01-09 09:38 PM   #154 
  - Oooooh, nobody who operates a charity could be bad!  NMMNG   Apr-02-09 04:30 PM   #216 
     - But but but..... Adolf was such a nice man!  Sebastian Doyle   Apr-02-09 05:58 PM   #268 
  - I'm not offended by a homophobe on the faith-based council  nichomachus   Apr-01-09 02:18 PM   #69 
  - I am offended by a homophobe on the faith-based council  dflprincess   Apr-01-09 09:26 PM   #153 
  - I'm sick of all this faith based bullshit.  RedCappedBandit   Apr-01-09 02:28 PM   #72 
  - Why are they keeping the Bogus Bushian term "FAITH-BASED"?  omega minimo   Apr-01-09 02:35 PM   #75 
  - It's just a word - and might help people of faith warm to Democrats  swishyfeet   Apr-01-09 02:38 PM   #77 
     - it's not just a word, it's a propogandist invention of the Right Wing under Bushco.  omega minimo   Apr-01-09 02:46 PM   #79 
     - In my reality based world, "faith based" might attact votes  swishyfeet   Apr-01-09 03:24 PM   #89 
        - It's Orwellian so "reality based" is questionable. It's a Right Wing meme used for the purpose  omega minimo   Apr-01-09 04:08 PM   #102 
     - Are you suggesting that there are few or no "people of faith" among Democrats?  foxfeet   Apr-01-09 03:04 PM   #85 
     - No, but Republicans have been courting them more actively  swishyfeet   Apr-01-09 03:20 PM   #87 
        - The type of people that people like Dungy attract ALREADY lost an election...  Solon   Apr-01-09 03:41 PM   #92 
        - So what rights of YOURS are you willing to give up to pander?  Zhade   Apr-02-09 09:28 PM   #295 
     - Maybe you should examine WHY you're defending bigotry and unconstitutional policies.  Zhade   Apr-02-09 09:26 PM   #294 
  - Obama and DuBois are pro discrimination  Bluenorthwest   Apr-01-09 02:52 PM   #81 
  - Shouldn't a faith-based council have, like, ministers 'n' stuff on it?  KamaAina   Apr-01-09 02:57 PM   #84 
  - Advisory Council on Faith-Based *and Neighborhood* Partnerships  swishyfeet   Apr-01-09 03:35 PM   #90 
  - Its not just homophobia, it would be the whole "he wants to keep people from having civil rights"...  Solon   Apr-01-09 03:38 PM   #91 
  - All this does is open up a whole new can of worms  KamaAina   Apr-01-09 03:43 PM   #93 
  - If they were your rights being denied, I dare say  mitchtv   Apr-01-09 03:46 PM   #95 
  - Maybe so, but then Tony Dungy not in a position to deny anyone's rights  swishyfeet   Apr-01-09 03:59 PM   #97 
  - What part of bigotry is "reasonable", do tell?  Bluebear   Apr-01-09 03:55 PM   #96 
  - I believe you just made my point.  swishyfeet   Apr-01-09 04:00 PM   #98 
     - When you excuse and defend an extreme bigot, then yes, you are saying it's "reasonable"  LostinVA   Apr-01-09 05:28 PM   #121 
     - You defend a bigot giving aid and support to those who strip us of our rights.  Zhade   Apr-02-09 09:30 PM   #296 
  - You seem determined to defend a bigot. I have to wonder why.  hasidic acid   Apr-01-09 04:01 PM   #99 
  - Say it. Please do.  swishyfeet   Apr-01-09 04:09 PM   #103 
     - First, I didn't call you a bigot, I merely observed that you are determined to defend one, and  hasidic acid   Apr-01-09 05:25 PM   #120 
     - You ARE an enabler and excuser of bigots, because you are defending and excusing bigots  LostinVA   Apr-01-09 05:29 PM   #122 
     - I did up above. You're welcome. When you call a bigot a decent man and tell people that are upset  WhollyHeretic   Apr-01-09 07:09 PM   #134 
     - You're a sucker. He's playing people like you, and you can't even see it.  Zhade   Apr-02-09 09:31 PM   #299 
  - Most of these homophobes join forces with the causes you have mentioned here.  Starry Messenger   Apr-01-09 04:15 PM   #107 
     - That's Diabolical!!  swishyfeet   Apr-01-09 04:24 PM   #110 
        - Then you might wish to educate yourself.  Starry Messenger   Apr-01-09 04:27 PM   #111 
           - It works both ways  swishyfeet   Apr-01-09 04:46 PM   #112 
              - How do you know they didn't already know?  Starry Messenger   Apr-01-09 04:51 PM   #113 
              - absolutes are rare  Kaleva   Apr-02-09 08:51 AM   #172 
                 - I'm not sure what that had to do with my post.  Starry Messenger   Apr-02-09 09:11 AM   #177 
                    - You are correct.  Kaleva   Apr-02-09 09:47 AM   #179 
              - "the binary world of GLBT issues" - really, go to hell, OK?  Bluebear   Apr-01-09 06:19 PM   #127 
              - Everyone just needs to use the alert fuction  Marrah_G   Apr-01-09 10:16 PM   #161 
                 - But they truly are master baiters! n/t  QC   Apr-02-09 10:13 AM   #182 
                 - Alert on me?  swishyfeet   Apr-02-09 12:12 PM   #184 
                    - I agree with you.  NorthernSpy   Apr-02-09 01:32 PM   #187 
              - What a douchebag.  Forkboy   Apr-02-09 04:03 PM   #203 
  - Love that photo.  Jokerman   Apr-01-09 07:42 PM   #136 
  - Obama believes marriage is between a man and a woman  Kaleva   Apr-01-09 05:16 PM   #115 
  - Is there something in the rules that says members have to approve gay marriage?  hasidic acid   Apr-01-09 05:30 PM   #123 
  - Welcome hasidic acid.  Starry Messenger   Apr-01-09 05:43 PM   #124 
  - Thank you! I may have not been clear, I am 100% in favor of marriage for anyone who wants it.  hasidic acid   Apr-01-09 08:19 PM   #141 
  - Support of basic human rights would be nice.  Jokerman   Apr-01-09 07:46 PM   #138 
  - I absolutely support it, I was just trying to clarify the official position here.  hasidic acid   Apr-01-09 08:22 PM   #142 
  - Skinner himself posted a thread about it once  Reterr   Apr-01-09 08:14 PM   #140 
  - Thank you. I absolutely believe it should be an inalienable right but I can't quite find it in my  hasidic acid   Apr-01-09 08:38 PM   #144 
  - If you don't then you are a bigot and will not be welcomed here.  Marrah_G   Apr-01-09 10:18 PM   #163 
     - President Obama would probably be flamed & tombstoned here  Kaleva   Apr-02-09 08:00 AM   #167 
        - Yes- he probably would  Marrah_G   Apr-02-09 08:06 AM   #168 
           - I beg to differ  Kaleva   Apr-02-09 08:17 AM   #169 
           - Well they would be wrong.  Marrah_G   Apr-02-09 08:28 AM   #170 
              - Maybe  Kaleva   Apr-02-09 08:44 AM   #171 
                 - Your last sentence is so very true.  Marrah_G   Apr-02-09 09:02 AM   #175 
           - If so, then he's right not to take our opinions too seriously.  NorthernSpy   Apr-02-09 01:10 PM   #186 
              - Tolerance is NOT a two way street, if it were...  Solon   Apr-02-09 02:52 PM   #192 
                 - We were talking about tolerating our own Democratic president, Solon.  NorthernSpy   Apr-02-09 02:59 PM   #194 
                    - Let's see, David Duke is against interracial marriage, Obama is against same sex marriage...  Solon   Apr-02-09 03:00 PM   #195 
                       - Apples and oranges. President Obama is not David Duke.  NorthernSpy   Apr-02-09 03:06 PM   #196 
                          - Actually, the only argument that's new when comparing between the two...  Solon   Apr-02-09 03:12 PM   #198 
                             - Laws against interracial marriage were a recent innovation that altered a traditional right...  NorthernSpy   Apr-02-09 03:34 PM   #200 
                                - That's categorically false, same sex marriages were recognized in ancient cultures in Southeast...  Solon   Apr-02-09 03:45 PM   #202 
                                - To make my point further...  Solon   Apr-02-09 04:14 PM   #207 
                                - I'm sorry, but that is really a S T R E T C H...  NorthernSpy   Apr-02-09 04:21 PM   #210 
                                   - Uhm, you do realize that they have DOCUMENTS of this union, do you not?  Solon   Apr-02-09 04:30 PM   #215 
                                      - Okay, you're looking at a whole bunch of paintings...  NorthernSpy   Apr-02-09 04:56 PM   #228 
                                         - Yeah, if you consider hieroglyphics to be "just a bunch of paintings"...  Solon   Apr-02-09 05:20 PM   #241 
                                            - Oh, well, at least she's keeping the thread kicked.  Starry Messenger   Apr-02-09 05:28 PM   #246 
                                            - Let's not mention that some Roman Emperors married men, shall we?  Solon   Apr-02-09 05:31 PM   #247 
                                            - Roman Emperors? Did they exist?  Starry Messenger   Apr-02-09 05:35 PM   #250 
                                            - Heehee, yes I did, after all, its not like the Romans wrote anything down...  Solon   Apr-02-09 05:38 PM   #252 
                                            - ROFL - I was actually annoyed at first at your adversary; now I'm having a good laugh.  closeupready   Apr-02-09 06:54 PM   #286 
                                            - Cute.  NorthernSpy   Apr-02-09 05:41 PM   #254 
                                            - Did I mention lovers? No I did not, I mentioned MARRIAGE...  Solon   Apr-02-09 05:46 PM   #258 
                                            - Her ignorance just has no boundaries.  Bluebear   Apr-02-09 09:31 PM   #297 
                                            - .  Bluebear   Apr-02-09 09:31 PM   #298 
                                - Reminds me of how people have claimed there were matriarchies...  NorthernSpy   Apr-02-09 04:17 PM   #208 
                                   - Talk about apples and oranges! I never claimed it was either widespread...  Solon   Apr-02-09 04:28 PM   #212 
                                - You are completely incorrect. Same-sex marriage has been recognized  closeupready   Apr-02-09 04:10 PM   #206 
                                   - Nope.  NorthernSpy   Apr-02-09 04:27 PM   #211 
                                      - So basically you are discounting Roman, Greek, Native American and many other cultures customs...  Solon   Apr-02-09 04:32 PM   #217 
                                      - I'm discounting it because your evidence...  NorthernSpy   Apr-02-09 05:16 PM   #238 
                                         - I didn't make up shit. n/t  Solon   Apr-02-09 05:21 PM   #242 
                                      - "Nope"?? WTF. Hate to break it to you, but reality is not based in your ignorance.  closeupready   Apr-02-09 06:45 PM   #283 
  - True, but that belief wasn't strong enough to get him to support Prop 8  Hippo_Tron   Apr-03-09 02:46 AM   #305 
  - Faith-Based has no business in government.  BlueJac   Apr-01-09 06:03 PM   #126 
  - What's the problem?  RetroLounge   Apr-01-09 06:22 PM   #128 
  - Fuck any "Faith Based Council" in government.  flvegan   Apr-01-09 07:15 PM   #135 
  - K&R  cliffordu   Apr-01-09 07:46 PM   #137 
  - This passes the pony test eh?  ruggerson   Apr-02-09 04:32 PM   #218 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Apr-01-09 07:48 PM   #139 
  - I couldn't care less if he throws a sop to the Evangelicals now and then.  Beregond2   Apr-01-09 08:36 PM   #143 
  - Well bully for you!  Bluebear   Apr-01-09 09:09 PM   #147 
  - Dungy  Brooklyns_Finest   Apr-01-09 08:57 PM   #145 
  - So far, it's not a record of which he can be proud. nt  Bluebear   Apr-01-09 09:10 PM   #148 
  - just try and blame Obama for anything  mitchtv   Apr-01-09 10:40 PM   #164 
     - "All I can do is stay home next time and keep my money"  NorthernSpy   Apr-02-09 02:09 PM   #189 
        - we shall see, now won't we?  mitchtv   Apr-02-09 02:40 PM   #190 
        - Mister, I don't care what you do.  NorthernSpy   Apr-02-09 02:54 PM   #193 
           - Then why are you in this thread?  Starry Messenger   Apr-02-09 03:43 PM   #201 
              - apparently, because she likes to taunt people who don't have equal rights  ruggerson   Apr-02-09 04:37 PM   #220 
              - OMG... you're really comparing yourself to the Little Rock Nine?  NorthernSpy   Apr-02-09 04:55 PM   #225 
                 - I'm comparing you to the people who mocked them and tried to hurt them  ruggerson   Apr-02-09 04:58 PM   #230 
                    - except that you'll note that I'm not the one hurling profanities...  NorthernSpy   Apr-02-09 05:44 PM   #256 
                       - What sort of "thing is this", exactly?  Starry Messenger   Apr-02-09 05:49 PM   #260 
                       - Laughing at the fact that your fellow human beings don't have your rights is civil?  Forkboy   Apr-02-09 05:51 PM   #262 
                          - No, I laugh off the ultimatum, as I said.  NorthernSpy   Apr-02-09 05:55 PM   #266 
                             - Which is essentially laughing at gay people.  Forkboy   Apr-02-09 05:56 PM   #267 
                             - Only if you think that one individual has the authority to represent a larger group...  NorthernSpy   Apr-02-09 05:59 PM   #269 
                                - Does Obama represent the larger group of Democrats, or just himself?  Forkboy   Apr-02-09 06:02 PM   #270 
                                - Well, we elected him.  NorthernSpy   Apr-02-09 06:15 PM   #274 
                                   - So one person can represent a larger group then.  Forkboy   Apr-02-09 06:21 PM   #276 
                                      - Sure, IF we elect him.  NorthernSpy   Apr-02-09 06:22 PM   #277 
                                         - Not generally? So sometimes then, right?  Forkboy   Apr-02-09 06:25 PM   #279 
                                - Mitchtv is a person.  Starry Messenger   Apr-02-09 06:04 PM   #272 
                             - *Laughing at an ultimatum*? I have only two words: Ralph Nader  LooseWilly   Apr-02-09 11:11 PM   #301 
              - It's just that I got my fill of these ultimatums during the Primary Wars...  NorthernSpy   Apr-02-09 04:51 PM   #224 
                 - Yes, I can see that words on a message board  Starry Messenger   Apr-02-09 04:56 PM   #226 
                 - "Before then, I cared about people's feelings."  Forkboy   Apr-02-09 04:56 PM   #227 
                 - Yes, it's all the fault of gay people who didn't support Obama in the primaries  ruggerson   Apr-02-09 04:57 PM   #229 
                    - I found a lot of what happened during the primaries insulting...  NorthernSpy   Apr-02-09 05:10 PM   #235 
                       - Baby.  Forkboy   Apr-02-09 05:16 PM   #237 
                       - kindness and understanding do not always lead to agreement  NorthernSpy   Apr-02-09 05:25 PM   #243 
                          - Reread those words...then reread some of your posts here.  Forkboy   Apr-02-09 05:28 PM   #245 
                       - So did people on both sides  ruggerson   Apr-02-09 05:19 PM   #239 
                          - I'm getting a mixed message about that stuff.  NorthernSpy   Apr-02-09 05:33 PM   #248 
                             - I guess you must be *really* pissed at Obama, then...  Starry Messenger   Apr-02-09 05:39 PM   #253 
                             - Yes I saw that post  ruggerson   Apr-02-09 06:03 PM   #271 
                                - here ya go...  NorthernSpy   Apr-02-09 06:13 PM   #273 
        - Hahaha! Those gays have nowhere else to go! ROFL! LMAO! - - -Idiot.  Bluebear   Apr-02-09 02:43 PM   #191 
        - Your concern over the rights of your fellow humans is deeply touching.  Forkboy   Apr-02-09 04:06 PM   #205 
        - Wow, we've got a live bigot on our hands  ruggerson   Apr-02-09 04:20 PM   #209 
        - I guess you missed the day this person claimed that transpersons  Starry Messenger   Apr-02-09 04:28 PM   #213 
           - Yeah, why wasn't he banned for that again, I thought transphobia wasn't allowed here. n/t  Solon   Apr-02-09 04:34 PM   #219 
              - Evidently it isn't transphobia if you just have  Starry Messenger   Apr-02-09 04:43 PM   #222 
                 - Or the APA, I love it that this guy tries to portray himself as "reasonable" when he...  Solon   Apr-02-09 04:45 PM   #223 
                    - I'm a she. If you're going to smear me, at least be accurate.  NorthernSpy   Apr-02-09 05:03 PM   #232 
                       - you smeared yourself without us helping you at all  ruggerson   Apr-02-09 05:07 PM   #234 
                       - Nope. I've said specifically what annoys me about this whole debate.  NorthernSpy   Apr-02-09 05:13 PM   #236 
                          - Yes, post #189 by you clearly shows how much you care about gay people.  Forkboy   Apr-02-09 05:19 PM   #240 
                          - Yep, she's a giver.  Starry Messenger   Apr-02-09 05:25 PM   #244 
                          - I wasn't talking to "gay people". I was talking to one individual.  NorthernSpy   Apr-02-09 05:36 PM   #251 
                             - But the question is, what group do you identify with, "Ignoramus Anonymous"? n/t  Solon   Apr-02-09 05:43 PM   #255 
                             - So potentially hurting the feelings of one DU-er  Starry Messenger   Apr-02-09 05:45 PM   #257 
                             - Nice try.  NorthernSpy   Apr-02-09 05:49 PM   #261 
                                - Well, he mentioned that he was elderly  Starry Messenger   Apr-02-09 05:52 PM   #264 
                             - You used the words "gays"...plural, saying they weren't your problem.  Forkboy   Apr-02-09 05:48 PM   #259 
                                - That's the most creative interpretation yet!  NorthernSpy   Apr-02-09 05:51 PM   #263 
                                   - And I commented on what you said.  Forkboy   Apr-02-09 05:55 PM   #265 
                                      - Okay, here's where you've gone wrong...  NorthernSpy   Apr-02-09 06:21 PM   #275 
                                         - Because many of the people who promised to do that were gay.  Forkboy   Apr-02-09 06:24 PM   #278 
                                            - Oh, really?  NorthernSpy   Apr-02-09 06:32 PM   #280 
                                            - Because many have spoken out about these issues long before Obama was even a candidate.  Forkboy   Apr-02-09 06:36 PM   #281 
                                            - Is it me, or did it get quiet in here suddenly...  Starry Messenger   Apr-02-09 06:52 PM   #284 
                                            - Damn, I'm dissapointed, Miss "Know-it-all" doesn't want to play anymore....  Solon   Apr-02-09 09:07 PM   #292 
                          - If it's not gays that annoy you in this debate...  LooseWilly   Apr-02-09 11:28 PM   #302 
                       - Well excuse me, oh, and it isn't a smear when its true. n/t  Solon   Apr-02-09 05:34 PM   #249 
        - There hasn't really been another election to sit out or donate money to.  EmilyAnne   Apr-03-09 03:10 AM   #307 
  - "It's not about SPEED its about DIRECTION."  Hong Kong Cavalier   Apr-01-09 09:13 PM   #149 
  - so, does a rec for this mean its great news? why recommend a story like this?  kid a   Apr-01-09 09:22 PM   #150 
  - I K&R'd it to get it in front of as many eyes as possible.  cliffordu   Apr-01-09 10:41 PM   #165 
  - I think of it as "recommended reading"  Starry Messenger   Apr-02-09 12:37 AM   #166 
  - it probably just means that they think it's an important story...  NorthernSpy   Apr-02-09 01:47 PM   #188 
  - His son commited suicide at 18 when Dungy was going for the Super Bowl.  Riverman   Apr-01-09 09:58 PM   #157 
  - Come on, its only a two minute prayer  TechBear_Seattle   Apr-01-09 10:11 PM   #160 
  - keep your friends close - and those enemies even closer!  tomm2thumbs   Apr-02-09 09:13 AM   #178 
  - Problem is, Obama doesn't seem to consider bigoted religious fanatics enemies. n/t  QC   Apr-02-09 10:12 AM   #181 
  - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Apr-02-09 01:04 PM   #185 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Apr-02-09 03:07 PM   #197 
  - No one is perfect.  Jakes Progress   Apr-02-09 03:17 PM   #199 
  - There should be NO "Faith-Based Council" in the first place  TWiley   Apr-02-09 04:29 PM   #214 
  - "The Lord"?  ismnotwasm   Apr-02-09 05:04 PM   #233 
  - Dungy is pretty much why I hate "faith-based" anything.  alarimer   Apr-02-09 06:43 PM   #282 
  - Ugh.  Celeborn Skywalker   Apr-02-09 08:31 PM   #288 
  - I thought the Democratic Party was supposed to be socially liberal.  New Dawn   Apr-02-09 11:42 PM   #303 
  - It's all relative, compared to the GOP we are quite socially liberal  Hippo_Tron   Apr-03-09 02:50 AM   #306 
  - he ended up not being on the council  ErinBerin84   Apr-06-09 03:11 PM   #308 
 

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