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10. Mr President, Our Government has spent the decades from Reagan
through Bush: Giving every advantage to the elites and most especially
Big Business. Tax cuts, Waivers on paying tazes, Billions and
Billions(Taxpayer money) in Cash Incentives, Absolute Freedom to roam
the world seeking the cheapest labor(increase profits for Elites by
keeping business cost down. Relieved Business of almost all responsibility
through De-Regulation.(Let the Market work its will. "The great invisible
hand" has proved it works just fine for the upper class. Over and
over the Rich have gotten richer. Think of the Millionaires who have
become Billionaires over time. If we are honest with ourselves we
must admit it does not work for the working class and poor. The Free
Market Policies that deed indeed work for the rich were the same policies
that sent not just low wage jobs but better paying IT jobs out of the
country. Immigration was used to bring in lower paid workers in
all levels including HI TECH(H 1-B visaa).

I am not playing class warfare. I want us to get so many millionnaires
we are top heavy with them. HOWEVER, we must save our Democracy.
For Democracy to flourish we must have a vibrant middle class and
very few poor.

While I love Greider, He has been a voice in the wilderness warning
us for years, I will go with Bernanke(scholar of the Great Depression.)
He says they were not wrong just too slow and stimulus then not large
enough. FDR saved Democracy and saved Capitalism.
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  -Moyers and Greider - President Obama is "trapped between the governing elites who decide things and malaise  Mar-28-09 07:52 AM   #0 
  - We're Going To Bang On Your Door Until You Get It Right.......  global1   Mar-28-09 08:19 AM   #1 
  - 100% correct  malaise   Mar-28-09 08:28 AM   #2 
  - Yep. I was too.  tbyg52   Mar-28-09 09:10 AM   # 
  - Hear, hear! Let's keep banging on the door. n/t  Laelth   Mar-28-09 08:51 AM   #3 
  - Spot on!  CANDO   Mar-28-09 09:07 AM   #5 
  - Congratulations!  tbyg52   Mar-28-09 09:11 AM   #7 
  - Your point would be better served without the hyperbole.  MilesColtrane   Mar-28-09 12:30 PM   #33 
  - Perhaps the hyperbole was a given.  CANDO   Mar-28-09 06:08 PM   #66 
  - Luckily, they all seem to waste their time..  girl gone mad   Mar-28-09 09:05 PM   #72 
  - At DKos there are some who are aggressively shutting down any questioning of Bernanke and Geithner  leveymg   Mar-29-09 12:41 AM   #83 
     - I've seen some nasty anti-Krugman comments here as well.  CANDO   Mar-29-09 10:53 AM   #95 
  - What a great post. K & R all of you.  chill_wind   Mar-28-09 09:22 AM   #11 
  - Exactly Correct !  Phred42   Mar-28-09 09:33 AM   #14 
  - Sounds like the door banging is going to have too be VERY LOUD before Obama hears it.  SammyWinstonJack   Mar-28-09 09:43 AM   #18 
  - and everyone should pay attention...  butterfly77   Mar-28-09 02:46 PM   #47 
  - I'm not being a smartass...  CoffeeCat   Mar-28-09 05:02 PM   #60 
     - I am not trying to be a smart ass either but...  butterfly77   Mar-28-09 05:55 PM   #64 
        - ...but I am paying attention...  CoffeeCat   Mar-28-09 07:17 PM   #70 
           - No One Will Clarify This For You Because They Don't Know Shit.  theFrankFactor   Mar-28-09 11:06 PM   #76 
              - Thank you...  CoffeeCat   Mar-29-09 11:23 AM   #98 
  - Healthcare?  INdemo   Mar-29-09 07:59 AM   #91 
     - I Don't Agree With His Premise That We Are Too Accustomed To.....  global1   Mar-29-09 11:12 AM   #97 
  - We can't afford to sit back and wait to see what happens.  pleah   Mar-28-09 09:07 AM   #4 
  - i have seen many posters here on du with the wait and see attitude.  biopowertoday   Mar-28-09 01:38 PM   #36 
  - "Obama, right or wrong; if right, to be kept right; and if wrong, to be set right"  jody   Mar-28-09 09:10 AM   #6 
  - Obama needs to fire Geithner.  JDPriestly   Mar-28-09 05:59 PM   #65 
     - Absent from Obama's close advisers are labor leaders, scientists, and engineers but there's a  jody   Mar-28-09 06:18 PM   #69 
        - He appointed a scientist to Energy and a labor leader to Labor,  JDPriestly   Mar-29-09 12:44 AM   #84 
           - I agree, that's why I said "close advisers". n/t  jody   Mar-29-09 07:35 AM   #90 
  - Eh, I see it a little differently..  Fumesucker   Mar-28-09 09:12 AM   #8 
  - Oh, absolutely. He would not have gotten to where he is otherwise.  tbyg52   Mar-28-09 09:16 AM   #9 
  - The question is, how much can he buck the system and get away with it  malaise   Mar-28-09 09:23 AM   #12 
     - EXACTLY!  tbyg52   Mar-28-09 09:53 AM   #23 
     - yes  Two Americas   Mar-28-09 05:16 PM   #62 
  - FDR couldn't have been more part of the governing elite  Patiod   Mar-28-09 09:52 AM   #22 
  - I have no clue how you could even say that  starroute   Mar-28-09 01:42 PM   #38 
  - And No One Can Explain or Prove Any of This Bullshit  theFrankFactor   Mar-28-09 11:12 PM   #77 
  - Great post. I see it the same way.  Kaleko   Mar-28-09 11:20 PM   #82 
  - You point out the crucial difference between FDR and Obama -  truedelphi   Mar-29-09 02:10 AM   #87 
  - Can you point to a source for that FDR quote?  starroute   Mar-29-09 08:52 AM   #92 
  - As I said, Obama has done a remarkable job of convincing a lot of people he is not..  Fumesucker   Mar-29-09 09:57 PM   #100 
  - Alex, is that you?  Political Heretic   Mar-28-09 11:18 PM   #81 
  - Mr President, Our Government has spent the decades from Reagan  OHdem10   Mar-28-09 09:17 AM   #10 
  - brings up the old question -- if not now then when? nt  xchrom   Mar-28-09 09:31 AM   #13 
  - "The sun'll come out Tomorrow So ya gotta hang on 'Til tomorrow"  jody   Mar-28-09 09:36 AM   #15 
     - Not sure if we should bet that bottom dollar  malaise   Mar-28-09 09:38 AM   #16 
     - Too many people are down to their last penny living in tent cities and Congress/WH set on their  jody   Mar-28-09 09:44 AM   #19 
        - um -- i think this is the opposite of tea baggers.  xchrom   Mar-28-09 09:55 AM   #24 
           - I know but rather than start a new effort, find an existing one with a catchy name and use it. n/t  jody   Mar-28-09 10:14 AM   #25 
           - well -- blog here about your time spent at the tea baggers. nt  xchrom   Mar-28-09 10:33 AM   #28 
           - ROFL n/t  jody   Mar-28-09 10:37 AM   #30 
           - I saw one of them on TV last night, and it looked like a right-wing organization to me.  tbyg52   Mar-28-09 10:36 AM   #29 
           - Yeh  rucognizant   Mar-28-09 03:38 PM   #54 
     - 'no sense in sitting alone in your room...'  xchrom   Mar-28-09 09:43 AM   #17 
     - I'll drink to that, misery loves company so find someone and . . . . n/t  jody   Mar-28-09 09:45 AM   #20 
     - Really?  shadowknows69   Mar-28-09 03:29 PM   #53 
  - A link from the Greider interview that you might want to take a look at  cornermouse   Mar-28-09 09:50 AM   #21 
  - I had not, thank you.  tbyg52   Mar-28-09 10:30 AM   #27 
  - A New Way Forward  Doremus   Mar-28-09 10:19 AM   #26 
  - Very nice! thanks for the info.  cui bono   Mar-28-09 03:01 PM   #48 
  - The only way forward  malaise   Mar-28-09 03:18 PM   #49 
  - Last night I couldn't find a copy of the NY Times chart Moyers held up...  eleny   Mar-28-09 11:49 AM   #31 
  - I also missed its title and so can't even search for it.  EFerrari   Mar-28-09 01:42 PM   #37 
  - NYT chart  liam_laddie   Mar-28-09 01:45 PM   #39 
     - I was hunting the Politics section - Thanks for the article!  eleny   Mar-28-09 02:12 PM   #43 
     - The NYT chart is on this version  BumRushDaShow   Mar-29-09 10:18 AM   #93 
  - And facecard would help!  lonestarnot   Mar-28-09 11:56 AM   #32 
  - Great post., K&R  cliffordu   Mar-28-09 01:20 PM   #34 
  - Great Bill Moyers program  malaise   Mar-28-09 03:19 PM   #50 
  - Kicked and recommended.  Uncle Joe   Mar-28-09 01:29 PM   #35 
  - CITIZENS CAN CHANGE THE BANKING SYSTEM  Maineman   Mar-28-09 01:52 PM   #40 
  - Excellent suggestion.  Karenina   Mar-28-09 09:07 PM   #73 
  - Thank you for the post, malaise. I LOVE our new President, but I am also one of his  bertman   Mar-28-09 01:56 PM   #41 
  - 100% correct - great photos here  malaise   Mar-28-09 03:21 PM   #52 
     - That's the kind of participatory government WE need too.  bertman   Mar-28-09 04:21 PM   #57 
  - I am banging. Pres Obama has a tough job. We need to continue to tell him we have his back. nm  rhett o rick   Mar-28-09 02:04 PM   #42 
  - citizens are supposed to mold their Presidents Agenda  fascisthunter   Mar-28-09 02:15 PM   #44 
  - From an article on March 22...  Kurovski   Mar-28-09 02:31 PM   #45 
  - And a related thread...  Kurovski   Mar-28-09 02:42 PM   #46 
  - Hey Comrade leader  malaise   Mar-28-09 03:20 PM   #51 
  - Why aren't the "governing elites who decide things" ever named by name?  cherokeeprogressive   Mar-28-09 03:38 PM   #55 
  - They are all the time. You can find them if you do a little research.  pauldp   Mar-29-09 12:49 AM   #85 
  - And DUers we have been right here banging...  Hubert Flottz   Mar-28-09 03:41 PM   #56 
  - He also said that Obama and the Democrats are on wrong side of history.  kentuck   Mar-28-09 04:25 PM   #58 
  - Not really  malaise   Mar-28-09 06:12 PM   #67 
  - Single payer health care too expensive? Non-sense! Bull shit!  L0oniX   Mar-28-09 05:01 PM   #59 
  - Reminds me of Jimmy Carter....  Sancho   Mar-28-09 05:04 PM   #61 
  - "We do forget that he walked into a house that was burning"  DainBramaged   Mar-28-09 05:18 PM   #63 
  - Yep - super quote  malaise   Mar-28-09 06:14 PM   #68 
  - Yes, Moyers/Greider are right. Sadly.  antimatter98   Mar-28-09 07:59 PM   #71 
  - This Is Really Sad If This Is True.......  global1   Mar-29-09 11:01 AM   #96 
  - This is true. "WE THE PEOPLE" ~ right now ~ today.......  Mind_your_head   Mar-28-09 09:35 PM   #74 
  - Once you realize you no longer have anything left to lose.... we are getting close....  Blackhatjack   Mar-28-09 10:04 PM   #75 
  - Question  ProSense   Mar-28-09 11:13 PM   #78 
  - "We love you Mr. President, but you don't have it right yet." --- THANK YOU!  Political Heretic   Mar-28-09 11:16 PM   #79 
  - Who's Paying Who.... link  theFrankFactor   Mar-28-09 11:17 PM   #80 
  - PWNED  malaise   Mar-29-09 10:26 AM   #94 
  - Link to the FORM that NEEDS to be FILLED...  Amonester   Mar-29-09 12:49 AM   #86 
  - The sound track...  Karenina   Mar-29-09 10:08 PM   #101 
  - Spot on as normal! K&R N/T  pam4water   Mar-29-09 02:46 AM   #88 
  - Although I still support President Obama  democrank   Mar-29-09 05:35 AM   #89 
  - .  omega minimo   Mar-29-09 07:31 PM   #99 

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