LooseWilly
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Sun Mar-22-09 03:11 PM
Response to Reply #20 |
| 91. Their bosses were stupid. |
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The Oakland PD regularly has two or three motorcycle cops pick a stretch of a couple of blocks where they know they can write some tickets, and they just camp there for the day... raising revenue for the city.
74th and MacArthur is easy, from that perspective. No one pays any attention to traffic laws between 73rd and about 85th. Certainly not me.
On the other hand... there are so many HUD houses and projects in that area... and so many dealers and assorted hustlers, thugs, pimps, hookers, junkies, etc. that it's actually a ridiculous place to "camp" looking to raise revenues. Half the people they're liable to stop there will just give up their hooptie rather than get together the money to pay the fine.
It was only a matter of time, on that block, before they stopped someone with an active warrant. Maybe they were thinking that would be a perk, add to stats or something... but to use just two motorcycle cops??
Stupid. Stupid. Stupid.
I remember I once laughed when I saw them trying the same thing around 90th Av and E. 14th (International now, technically). I thought it was foolish then... but I guess some genius in the PD decided to push his/her luck just a little too far.
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| -Shootings leave 4 Oakland police officers in critical condition - UPDATE, officers may have died |
Liberal_in_LA |
Mar-21-09 09:21 PM |
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tidbit |
MichaelHarris |
Mar-21-09 09:23 PM |
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Tragic. Best wishes to the heroes in blue. |
MrSlayer |
Mar-21-09 09:23 PM |
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Me too. I love the cops., If anyone runs over me while I'm riding my bicycle |
cliffordu |
Mar-21-09 11:09 PM |
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Have you ever actually met an Oakland motorcycle cop? |
LooseWilly |
Mar-22-09 02:30 PM |
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Sad |
XemaSab |
Mar-21-09 09:24 PM |
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CBS News scrolled across the screen that all four were dead. |
kansasblue |
Mar-21-09 09:28 PM |
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News is reporting that all 4 are 'critical' but also say waiting to notify families. |
Liberal_in_LA |
Mar-21-09 09:30 PM |
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Yes, CNN just said "critical" at 10:30 p.m. |
femmocrat |
Mar-21-09 09:33 PM |
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Update. CNN says critical, other news outlets say they died. |
Liberal_in_LA |
Mar-21-09 09:52 PM |
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Really quiet in my Oakland neighborhood tonight |
11cents |
Mar-21-09 10:48 PM |
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That's what I was afraid of. I hope everyone stays safe. |
EFerrari |
Mar-21-09 11:02 PM |
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Oakland radio reported that there was some celebrating tonight, as 'payback' over that BART shooting |
Liberal_in_LA |
Mar-21-09 11:11 PM |
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The Oakland police don't have much capital in the community. |
EFerrari |
Mar-22-09 12:01 AM |
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Don't try to turn this psycho into some sort of vigilante hero |
XemaSab |
Mar-22-09 12:32 AM |
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Excuse me? It things were better, you have to ask yourself |
EFerrari |
Mar-22-09 12:42 AM |
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I hear what you're saying |
XemaSab |
Mar-22-09 12:50 AM |
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I know. |
EFerrari |
Mar-22-09 12:55 AM |
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That was my impression. |
Why Syzygy |
Mar-22-09 04:39 AM |
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Well, you'll never know, will you, since the cops executed him before anyone could ask him. (NT) |
Tesha |
Mar-22-09 06:20 PM |
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Maybe they should have asked him nicely to stop firing at them? |
varkam |
Mar-22-09 06:38 PM |
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There are other ways to arrest a suspect than via SWAT teams that insist on killing the "cop-killer" |
Tesha |
Mar-22-09 07:33 PM |
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He killed two of the SWAT officers. |
varkam |
Mar-22-09 08:19 PM |
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He killed the SWAT officers because they put themselves into a position to be killed. |
Tesha |
Mar-23-09 07:52 AM |
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Here is one, would have done the job |
Pavulon |
Mar-23-09 05:20 PM |
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You joke now, but when things ratchet up a few more notches... (NT) |
Tesha |
Mar-23-09 06:42 PM |
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So it was the SWAT officers' fault that they died? |
varkam |
Mar-24-09 06:16 PM |
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My guess is you have never been in a life or death |
Retired AF Dem |
Mar-23-09 08:14 PM |
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That's really awful |
Mz Pip |
Mar-22-09 12:13 AM |
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Why hijack a thread with something that has nothing to do with this tragedy... |
HardWorkingDem |
Mar-22-09 01:10 AM |
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what the heck? I started this thread. Was just reporting what I heard. |
Liberal_in_LA |
Mar-22-09 01:38 AM |
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Yup. Look for cops going on a rampage now. |
BlooInBloo |
Mar-22-09 12:33 AM |
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Oh, BS... |
HardWorkingDem |
Mar-22-09 01:12 AM |
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that's a crock of shit |
merh |
Mar-22-09 02:39 AM |
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merh is probably right in his/her wrongness |
LooseWilly |
Mar-22-09 03:03 PM |
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I think "most" cop's |
whatdoyouthink |
Mar-21-09 10:52 PM |
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Yes... this story is heart breaking... |
hlthe2b |
Mar-21-09 11:01 PM |
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First, my thoughts and prayers go out to the families |
OmahaBlueDog |
Mar-22-09 12:18 AM |
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Justified? |
Why Syzygy |
Mar-22-09 04:45 AM |
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It was a poorly chosen word |
OmahaBlueDog |
Mar-22-09 01:44 PM |
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Thanks for the clarification. |
Why Syzygy |
Mar-22-09 06:46 PM |
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So very sad. |
donheld |
Mar-22-09 12:20 AM |
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This is horrible |
Uzybone |
Mar-22-09 12:42 AM |
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Their bosses were stupid. |
LooseWilly |
Mar-22-09 03:11 PM |
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"the gunman and burst into the apartment, he shot two more officers with an assault rifle" |
depakid |
Mar-22-09 12:56 AM |
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How is that possible assault weapons are illegal in California? |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Mar-22-09 01:15 AM |
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may not be "possible" anymore Dave |
MichaelHarris |
Mar-22-09 01:28 AM |
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You mean to tell me that criminals don't obey gun laws, I'm truly shocked. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Mar-22-09 01:31 AM |
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nope they don't |
MichaelHarris |
Mar-22-09 01:36 AM |
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They're plenty legal elsewhere |
depakid |
Mar-22-09 01:29 AM |
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I guess we should ban mass shootings. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Mar-22-09 01:33 AM |
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Dave how many is unacceptable? |
MichaelHarris |
Mar-22-09 01:44 AM |
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No criminal activity is acceptable, duh. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Mar-22-09 01:45 AM |
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well |
MichaelHarris |
Mar-22-09 01:51 AM |
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The intelligence of the answer matched the intelligence of the question. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Mar-22-09 01:53 AM |
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So |
MichaelHarris |
Mar-22-09 01:55 AM |
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Again no level of criminal activity is acceptable, 1 death is not acceptable. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Mar-22-09 01:58 AM |
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FBI crime stats put the number of annual rifle murders at around 500-ish, |
benEzra |
Mar-22-09 05:22 PM |
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Here's the question |
MichaelHarris |
Mar-22-09 01:42 AM |
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No criminal activity is acceptable, duh. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Mar-22-09 01:46 AM |
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Assault weapons advocates don't care one iota about the consequences to society |
depakid |
Mar-22-09 01:51 AM |
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I totally agree |
MichaelHarris |
Mar-22-09 01:54 AM |
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Since "assault weapons" aren't forceful weapons in the grand scheme of things... |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Mar-22-09 01:56 AM |
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my point is |
MichaelHarris |
Mar-22-09 02:00 AM |
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My sympathies to the victims of these criminals. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Mar-22-09 02:01 AM |
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have any for these people also? |
MichaelHarris |
Mar-22-09 02:05 AM |
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Of course I sympathize with all victims of crime. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Mar-22-09 02:07 AM |
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It is probably |
Why Syzygy |
Mar-22-09 04:58 AM |
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My ownership of a semi automatic rifle costs society nothing. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Mar-22-09 01:54 AM |
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and that's where you're wrong |
MichaelHarris |
Mar-22-09 01:56 AM |
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See what I mean? |
depakid |
Mar-22-09 01:59 AM |
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Educate yourself please. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Mar-22-09 02:02 AM |
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I just keep posting |
MichaelHarris |
Mar-22-09 02:08 AM |
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I'll keep posting the defensive use articles, it will be a lot of fun. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Mar-22-09 02:12 AM |
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at the end of the year |
MichaelHarris |
Mar-22-09 02:57 AM |
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You think I'm keeping score? |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Mar-22-09 03:06 AM |
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Even if |
MichaelHarris |
Mar-22-09 06:40 PM |
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I think that's what I said. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Mar-22-09 07:03 PM |
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Give it up, Michael |
Skittles |
Mar-22-09 10:01 PM |
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My weapons haven't been used in a crime, so you are wrong again. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Mar-22-09 02:00 AM |
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You still don't get it |
depakid |
Mar-22-09 02:06 AM |
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I said my weapons cost society nothing, no one addressed that point. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Mar-22-09 02:10 AM |
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I did |
MichaelHarris |
Mar-22-09 02:12 AM |
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Your quote, "Every time an assault weapon is used in a crime we pay." |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Mar-22-09 02:16 AM |
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just because |
MichaelHarris |
Mar-22-09 02:24 AM |
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I've never sold an assault weapon. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Mar-22-09 02:27 AM |
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and you've bought |
MichaelHarris |
Mar-22-09 02:28 AM |
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The one I bought was bought new by a friend. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Mar-22-09 02:31 AM |
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That makes you |
MichaelHarris |
Mar-22-09 02:36 AM |
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It does appear that crimes using assault weapons are on the rise. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Mar-22-09 02:43 AM |
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they prefer what they can get |
MichaelHarris |
Mar-22-09 02:56 AM |
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The 3% number is rifles used in murders and the FBI keeps the statistics. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Mar-22-09 02:58 AM |
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I've seen that said also |
MichaelHarris |
Mar-22-09 03:00 AM |
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Here you go. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Mar-22-09 03:09 AM |
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10th amendment |
MichaelHarris |
Mar-22-09 06:37 PM |
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They have every states numbers, look around the site. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Mar-22-09 07:06 PM |
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you're missing the point |
MichaelHarris |
Mar-22-09 11:47 PM |
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At that time they didn't carry those weapons in their vehicles. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Mar-23-09 12:21 AM |
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Well |
MichaelHarris |
Mar-23-09 12:26 AM |
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Did you read my post? |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Mar-23-09 12:29 AM |
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Noticed you conveniently skipped the FACTS about the FBI's stats. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Mar-23-09 01:07 AM |
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I didn't skip |
MichaelHarris |
Mar-23-09 01:47 AM |
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Yes and I pointed out that the UCR covers 94.6% of the population. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Mar-23-09 11:14 AM |
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I could be wrong |
MichaelHarris |
Mar-23-09 06:14 PM |
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It's only homicides as has been stated. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Mar-23-09 07:48 PM |
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I'm not sure |
MichaelHarris |
Mar-24-09 01:23 AM |
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I think they supported the NICS. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Mar-24-09 10:11 AM |
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Most departments participate in the Uniform Crime Reports collection process |
benEzra |
Mar-22-09 05:47 PM |
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You may want to retract some of these statements. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Mar-22-09 04:02 AM |
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The 3% number comes from the Federal Bureau of Investigation, |
benEzra |
Mar-22-09 05:41 PM |
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The one I bought was bought new by a friend. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Mar-22-09 02:31 AM |
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Actually, I'm not sure I buy your identification of cause or effect. |
LooseWilly |
Mar-22-09 02:49 PM |
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What is an "assault weapon?" |
derby378 |
Mar-22-09 05:52 PM |
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Solution: everyone wears head-to-toe kevlar vests...24/7 |
hlthe2b |
Mar-22-09 08:34 AM |
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You live in Colorado, yes? Guess how many rifle murders Colorado averages a year. |
benEzra |
Mar-22-09 05:52 PM |
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Semi-automated assault rifle deaths? rare when they occur... |
hlthe2b |
Mar-22-09 07:44 PM |
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Nope they would not. No AW used there |
Pavulon |
Mar-22-09 08:22 PM |
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BS |
hlthe2b |
Mar-23-09 05:47 PM |
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Run away, run away, good tactic when losing an argument. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Mar-23-09 10:16 PM |
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There weren't any military style rifles used at Columbine. |
benEzra |
Mar-22-09 08:41 PM |
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re: |
hlthe2b |
Mar-23-09 05:46 PM |
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Here's a picture, if you are open minded enough to look at it: |
benEzra |
Mar-23-09 06:03 PM |
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Why would the Columbine parents agree, assault weapons weren't used by the killers? |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Mar-23-09 12:31 AM |
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Bull shit symantecs |
hlthe2b |
Mar-23-09 05:46 PM |
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The Hi-Point 995 is not a "military style rifle" by any stretch of the imagination, |
benEzra |
Mar-23-09 06:05 PM |
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So proving you wrong is bullshit semantics, just educate yourself before you run your mouth. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Mar-23-09 07:50 PM |
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Good questions |
krispos42 |
Mar-22-09 03:32 AM |
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Your view is too utilitarian. |
chrisa |
Mar-23-09 08:45 AM |
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Is this considered a "mass shooting"? |
krispos42 |
Mar-22-09 02:37 AM |
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I wonder why they burst in without throwing tear gas and stun grenades? |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Mar-22-09 01:34 AM |
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Maybe they didn't know if the guy was actually in there. |
LisaL |
Mar-22-09 07:34 PM |
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I'd have gone through a lot of tear gas and stun grenades. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Mar-22-09 07:53 PM |
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SF Chronicle is reporting the guy shot through a closet door |
krispos42 |
Mar-22-09 02:32 AM |
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delete |
Brooklyns_Finest |
Mar-22-09 01:00 AM |
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What does this have to do with the BART incident? |
Brooklyns_Finest |
Mar-22-09 01:00 AM |
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You said you live in Albany, the whitest square mile between Richmond and San Jose. |
EFerrari |
Mar-22-09 02:02 AM |
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Except maybe for Alameda... |
LooseWilly |
Mar-22-09 09:32 PM |
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Piedmont and Alameda don't have that kind of dedication. |
EFerrari |
Mar-23-09 02:20 AM |
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I've read four or more |
Why Syzygy |
Mar-22-09 05:05 AM |
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Very sad. |
FloridaJudy |
Mar-22-09 01:34 AM |
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Tragic. |
Naturyl |
Mar-22-09 02:32 AM |
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Tragedies like this could never happen if our society would let us arm policemen... |
leftofthedial |
Mar-22-09 05:23 PM |
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Just tragic. Five people lost their lives because of the actions of one. |
varkam |
Mar-22-09 06:40 PM |
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Yep, little banger should have manned up and |
Pavulon |
Mar-22-09 07:08 PM |
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Presumably he was a real person himself. |
varkam |
Mar-22-09 08:20 PM |
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A real person would man up |
Pavulon |
Mar-22-09 08:23 PM |
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Whatever you say eom |
varkam |
Mar-22-09 08:46 PM |
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Damn shame |
Adelante |
Mar-22-09 09:03 PM |
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WTF? Who let him out of prison? |
rq4a |
Mar-23-09 12:41 AM |
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Rap Sheet |
SoDesuKa |
Mar-23-09 02:46 AM |
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I'm sure details of Mixon's prior convictions will surface soon enough - UPDATED |
slackmaster |
Mar-23-09 02:56 PM |
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And people praised this scumbag. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Mar-25-09 12:05 AM |
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Generally speaking: Poverty and High Crime go hand-in-hand. |
olegramps |
Mar-23-09 09:31 AM |
#132 |
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