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Sun Mar-22-09 01:36 AM
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guns are way too easy to get it seems.
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| -Shootings leave 4 Oakland police officers in critical condition - UPDATE, officers may have died |
Liberal_in_LA |
Mar-21-09 09:21 PM |
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tidbit |
MichaelHarris |
Mar-21-09 09:23 PM |
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Tragic. Best wishes to the heroes in blue. |
MrSlayer |
Mar-21-09 09:23 PM |
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Me too. I love the cops., If anyone runs over me while I'm riding my bicycle |
cliffordu |
Mar-21-09 11:09 PM |
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Have you ever actually met an Oakland motorcycle cop? |
LooseWilly |
Mar-22-09 02:30 PM |
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Sad |
XemaSab |
Mar-21-09 09:24 PM |
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CBS News scrolled across the screen that all four were dead. |
kansasblue |
Mar-21-09 09:28 PM |
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News is reporting that all 4 are 'critical' but also say waiting to notify families. |
Liberal_in_LA |
Mar-21-09 09:30 PM |
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Yes, CNN just said "critical" at 10:30 p.m. |
femmocrat |
Mar-21-09 09:33 PM |
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Update. CNN says critical, other news outlets say they died. |
Liberal_in_LA |
Mar-21-09 09:52 PM |
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Really quiet in my Oakland neighborhood tonight |
11cents |
Mar-21-09 10:48 PM |
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That's what I was afraid of. I hope everyone stays safe. |
EFerrari |
Mar-21-09 11:02 PM |
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Oakland radio reported that there was some celebrating tonight, as 'payback' over that BART shooting |
Liberal_in_LA |
Mar-21-09 11:11 PM |
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The Oakland police don't have much capital in the community. |
EFerrari |
Mar-22-09 12:01 AM |
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Don't try to turn this psycho into some sort of vigilante hero |
XemaSab |
Mar-22-09 12:32 AM |
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Excuse me? It things were better, you have to ask yourself |
EFerrari |
Mar-22-09 12:42 AM |
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I hear what you're saying |
XemaSab |
Mar-22-09 12:50 AM |
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I know. |
EFerrari |
Mar-22-09 12:55 AM |
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That was my impression. |
Why Syzygy |
Mar-22-09 04:39 AM |
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Well, you'll never know, will you, since the cops executed him before anyone could ask him. (NT) |
Tesha |
Mar-22-09 06:20 PM |
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Maybe they should have asked him nicely to stop firing at them? |
varkam |
Mar-22-09 06:38 PM |
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There are other ways to arrest a suspect than via SWAT teams that insist on killing the "cop-killer" |
Tesha |
Mar-22-09 07:33 PM |
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He killed two of the SWAT officers. |
varkam |
Mar-22-09 08:19 PM |
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He killed the SWAT officers because they put themselves into a position to be killed. |
Tesha |
Mar-23-09 07:52 AM |
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Here is one, would have done the job |
Pavulon |
Mar-23-09 05:20 PM |
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You joke now, but when things ratchet up a few more notches... (NT) |
Tesha |
Mar-23-09 06:42 PM |
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So it was the SWAT officers' fault that they died? |
varkam |
Mar-24-09 06:16 PM |
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My guess is you have never been in a life or death |
Retired AF Dem |
Mar-23-09 08:14 PM |
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That's really awful |
Mz Pip |
Mar-22-09 12:13 AM |
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Why hijack a thread with something that has nothing to do with this tragedy... |
HardWorkingDem |
Mar-22-09 01:10 AM |
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what the heck? I started this thread. Was just reporting what I heard. |
Liberal_in_LA |
Mar-22-09 01:38 AM |
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Yup. Look for cops going on a rampage now. |
BlooInBloo |
Mar-22-09 12:33 AM |
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Oh, BS... |
HardWorkingDem |
Mar-22-09 01:12 AM |
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that's a crock of shit |
merh |
Mar-22-09 02:39 AM |
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merh is probably right in his/her wrongness |
LooseWilly |
Mar-22-09 03:03 PM |
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I think "most" cop's |
whatdoyouthink |
Mar-21-09 10:52 PM |
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Yes... this story is heart breaking... |
hlthe2b |
Mar-21-09 11:01 PM |
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First, my thoughts and prayers go out to the families |
OmahaBlueDog |
Mar-22-09 12:18 AM |
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Justified? |
Why Syzygy |
Mar-22-09 04:45 AM |
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It was a poorly chosen word |
OmahaBlueDog |
Mar-22-09 01:44 PM |
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Thanks for the clarification. |
Why Syzygy |
Mar-22-09 06:46 PM |
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So very sad. |
donheld |
Mar-22-09 12:20 AM |
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This is horrible |
Uzybone |
Mar-22-09 12:42 AM |
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Their bosses were stupid. |
LooseWilly |
Mar-22-09 03:11 PM |
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"the gunman and burst into the apartment, he shot two more officers with an assault rifle" |
depakid |
Mar-22-09 12:56 AM |
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How is that possible assault weapons are illegal in California? |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Mar-22-09 01:15 AM |
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may not be "possible" anymore Dave |
MichaelHarris |
Mar-22-09 01:28 AM |
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You mean to tell me that criminals don't obey gun laws, I'm truly shocked. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Mar-22-09 01:31 AM |
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nope they don't |
MichaelHarris |
Mar-22-09 01:36 AM |
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They're plenty legal elsewhere |
depakid |
Mar-22-09 01:29 AM |
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I guess we should ban mass shootings. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Mar-22-09 01:33 AM |
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Dave how many is unacceptable? |
MichaelHarris |
Mar-22-09 01:44 AM |
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No criminal activity is acceptable, duh. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Mar-22-09 01:45 AM |
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well |
MichaelHarris |
Mar-22-09 01:51 AM |
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The intelligence of the answer matched the intelligence of the question. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Mar-22-09 01:53 AM |
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So |
MichaelHarris |
Mar-22-09 01:55 AM |
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Again no level of criminal activity is acceptable, 1 death is not acceptable. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Mar-22-09 01:58 AM |
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FBI crime stats put the number of annual rifle murders at around 500-ish, |
benEzra |
Mar-22-09 05:22 PM |
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Here's the question |
MichaelHarris |
Mar-22-09 01:42 AM |
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No criminal activity is acceptable, duh. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Mar-22-09 01:46 AM |
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Assault weapons advocates don't care one iota about the consequences to society |
depakid |
Mar-22-09 01:51 AM |
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I totally agree |
MichaelHarris |
Mar-22-09 01:54 AM |
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Since "assault weapons" aren't forceful weapons in the grand scheme of things... |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Mar-22-09 01:56 AM |
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my point is |
MichaelHarris |
Mar-22-09 02:00 AM |
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My sympathies to the victims of these criminals. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Mar-22-09 02:01 AM |
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have any for these people also? |
MichaelHarris |
Mar-22-09 02:05 AM |
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Of course I sympathize with all victims of crime. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Mar-22-09 02:07 AM |
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It is probably |
Why Syzygy |
Mar-22-09 04:58 AM |
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My ownership of a semi automatic rifle costs society nothing. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Mar-22-09 01:54 AM |
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and that's where you're wrong |
MichaelHarris |
Mar-22-09 01:56 AM |
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See what I mean? |
depakid |
Mar-22-09 01:59 AM |
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Educate yourself please. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Mar-22-09 02:02 AM |
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I just keep posting |
MichaelHarris |
Mar-22-09 02:08 AM |
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I'll keep posting the defensive use articles, it will be a lot of fun. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Mar-22-09 02:12 AM |
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at the end of the year |
MichaelHarris |
Mar-22-09 02:57 AM |
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You think I'm keeping score? |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Mar-22-09 03:06 AM |
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Even if |
MichaelHarris |
Mar-22-09 06:40 PM |
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I think that's what I said. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Mar-22-09 07:03 PM |
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Give it up, Michael |
Skittles |
Mar-22-09 10:01 PM |
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My weapons haven't been used in a crime, so you are wrong again. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Mar-22-09 02:00 AM |
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You still don't get it |
depakid |
Mar-22-09 02:06 AM |
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I said my weapons cost society nothing, no one addressed that point. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Mar-22-09 02:10 AM |
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I did |
MichaelHarris |
Mar-22-09 02:12 AM |
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Your quote, "Every time an assault weapon is used in a crime we pay." |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Mar-22-09 02:16 AM |
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just because |
MichaelHarris |
Mar-22-09 02:24 AM |
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I've never sold an assault weapon. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Mar-22-09 02:27 AM |
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and you've bought |
MichaelHarris |
Mar-22-09 02:28 AM |
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The one I bought was bought new by a friend. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Mar-22-09 02:31 AM |
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That makes you |
MichaelHarris |
Mar-22-09 02:36 AM |
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It does appear that crimes using assault weapons are on the rise. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Mar-22-09 02:43 AM |
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they prefer what they can get |
MichaelHarris |
Mar-22-09 02:56 AM |
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The 3% number is rifles used in murders and the FBI keeps the statistics. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Mar-22-09 02:58 AM |
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I've seen that said also |
MichaelHarris |
Mar-22-09 03:00 AM |
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Here you go. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Mar-22-09 03:09 AM |
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10th amendment |
MichaelHarris |
Mar-22-09 06:37 PM |
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They have every states numbers, look around the site. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Mar-22-09 07:06 PM |
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you're missing the point |
MichaelHarris |
Mar-22-09 11:47 PM |
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At that time they didn't carry those weapons in their vehicles. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Mar-23-09 12:21 AM |
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Well |
MichaelHarris |
Mar-23-09 12:26 AM |
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Did you read my post? |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Mar-23-09 12:29 AM |
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Noticed you conveniently skipped the FACTS about the FBI's stats. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Mar-23-09 01:07 AM |
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I didn't skip |
MichaelHarris |
Mar-23-09 01:47 AM |
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Yes and I pointed out that the UCR covers 94.6% of the population. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Mar-23-09 11:14 AM |
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I could be wrong |
MichaelHarris |
Mar-23-09 06:14 PM |
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It's only homicides as has been stated. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Mar-23-09 07:48 PM |
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I'm not sure |
MichaelHarris |
Mar-24-09 01:23 AM |
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I think they supported the NICS. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Mar-24-09 10:11 AM |
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Most departments participate in the Uniform Crime Reports collection process |
benEzra |
Mar-22-09 05:47 PM |
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You may want to retract some of these statements. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Mar-22-09 04:02 AM |
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The 3% number comes from the Federal Bureau of Investigation, |
benEzra |
Mar-22-09 05:41 PM |
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The one I bought was bought new by a friend. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Mar-22-09 02:31 AM |
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Actually, I'm not sure I buy your identification of cause or effect. |
LooseWilly |
Mar-22-09 02:49 PM |
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What is an "assault weapon?" |
derby378 |
Mar-22-09 05:52 PM |
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Solution: everyone wears head-to-toe kevlar vests...24/7 |
hlthe2b |
Mar-22-09 08:34 AM |
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You live in Colorado, yes? Guess how many rifle murders Colorado averages a year. |
benEzra |
Mar-22-09 05:52 PM |
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Semi-automated assault rifle deaths? rare when they occur... |
hlthe2b |
Mar-22-09 07:44 PM |
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Nope they would not. No AW used there |
Pavulon |
Mar-22-09 08:22 PM |
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BS |
hlthe2b |
Mar-23-09 05:47 PM |
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Run away, run away, good tactic when losing an argument. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Mar-23-09 10:16 PM |
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There weren't any military style rifles used at Columbine. |
benEzra |
Mar-22-09 08:41 PM |
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re: |
hlthe2b |
Mar-23-09 05:46 PM |
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Here's a picture, if you are open minded enough to look at it: |
benEzra |
Mar-23-09 06:03 PM |
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Why would the Columbine parents agree, assault weapons weren't used by the killers? |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Mar-23-09 12:31 AM |
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Bull shit symantecs |
hlthe2b |
Mar-23-09 05:46 PM |
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The Hi-Point 995 is not a "military style rifle" by any stretch of the imagination, |
benEzra |
Mar-23-09 06:05 PM |
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So proving you wrong is bullshit semantics, just educate yourself before you run your mouth. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Mar-23-09 07:50 PM |
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Good questions |
krispos42 |
Mar-22-09 03:32 AM |
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Your view is too utilitarian. |
chrisa |
Mar-23-09 08:45 AM |
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Is this considered a "mass shooting"? |
krispos42 |
Mar-22-09 02:37 AM |
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I wonder why they burst in without throwing tear gas and stun grenades? |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Mar-22-09 01:34 AM |
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Maybe they didn't know if the guy was actually in there. |
LisaL |
Mar-22-09 07:34 PM |
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I'd have gone through a lot of tear gas and stun grenades. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Mar-22-09 07:53 PM |
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SF Chronicle is reporting the guy shot through a closet door |
krispos42 |
Mar-22-09 02:32 AM |
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delete |
Brooklyns_Finest |
Mar-22-09 01:00 AM |
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What does this have to do with the BART incident? |
Brooklyns_Finest |
Mar-22-09 01:00 AM |
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You said you live in Albany, the whitest square mile between Richmond and San Jose. |
EFerrari |
Mar-22-09 02:02 AM |
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Except maybe for Alameda... |
LooseWilly |
Mar-22-09 09:32 PM |
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Piedmont and Alameda don't have that kind of dedication. |
EFerrari |
Mar-23-09 02:20 AM |
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I've read four or more |
Why Syzygy |
Mar-22-09 05:05 AM |
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Very sad. |
FloridaJudy |
Mar-22-09 01:34 AM |
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Tragic. |
Naturyl |
Mar-22-09 02:32 AM |
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Tragedies like this could never happen if our society would let us arm policemen... |
leftofthedial |
Mar-22-09 05:23 PM |
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Just tragic. Five people lost their lives because of the actions of one. |
varkam |
Mar-22-09 06:40 PM |
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Yep, little banger should have manned up and |
Pavulon |
Mar-22-09 07:08 PM |
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Presumably he was a real person himself. |
varkam |
Mar-22-09 08:20 PM |
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A real person would man up |
Pavulon |
Mar-22-09 08:23 PM |
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Whatever you say eom |
varkam |
Mar-22-09 08:46 PM |
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Damn shame |
Adelante |
Mar-22-09 09:03 PM |
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WTF? Who let him out of prison? |
rq4a |
Mar-23-09 12:41 AM |
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Rap Sheet |
SoDesuKa |
Mar-23-09 02:46 AM |
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I'm sure details of Mixon's prior convictions will surface soon enough - UPDATED |
slackmaster |
Mar-23-09 02:56 PM |
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And people praised this scumbag. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Mar-25-09 12:05 AM |
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Generally speaking: Poverty and High Crime go hand-in-hand. |
olegramps |
Mar-23-09 09:31 AM |
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