| 26. PC-ness becomes a problem when it goes beyond language |
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Edited on Thu Mar-19-09 11:55 AM by starroute
The PC controversy may have started with attempts to remove ethnic slurs from public use and then proceeded to jokes about replacing "short" with "vertically challenged," but at least on college campuses it rapidly escalated to the thought police level.
When my older son was in college 10 years ago, he was constantly having run-ins with the extreme PC crowd, not over language but over general attitude, mainly with regard to what could loosely be considered gender issues.
For example, he was involved with an alternative campus publication whose policy was to publish anything that any student wanted to submit -- which stirred up recurring controversies in itself. But the episode that really got him riled was when the publication put up posters showing a dominatrix-type figure with a whip saying "You will submit to the (name of publication)" and somebody who considered this sexist went around campus ripping them all down.
At another point, there had been an attempted rape at a different college in the area, and frightened students at his campus hastily pushed through a number of provisions in response, such as requiring dormitory doors to be kept locked at all times -- which meant a student couldn't visit a friend in another dorm without phoning ahead to have someone meet them at the front door and let them in.
When my son stood up at a student meeting to say there was no sign of any need for these regulations, no indication they would prevent a rape attempt like the one at the other college (which had been in a secluded outdoor area, not a dorm), and significant impediments to ordinary campus social life if they were enacted, he was met by a barrage of counter-arguments which essentially amounted to "You have no sensitivity to my feelings."
My younger son graduated from college 5 years ago, and he ran into the same attitudes -- though he avoided direct run-ins, being less confrontational by nature.
The one thing that does seem to have changed in the last 10 years is that you now get these arguments not just from the left, over racial or gender issues, but also from the right over conservative cultural issues. Even here at DU, it's not possible to say "religion is a myth" without somebody telling you that you're insulting believers, or to say "the South is a center of regressive social and economic attitudes" without being told you're an anti-Southern bigot.
It seems as though we're stuck in a linguistic tangle, where the original attempt to set forth norms of public behavior that would prevent outright hate speech has been co-opted to censor any criticism of a particular group's beliefs and attitudes.
To me, the distinction seems pretty clear. On one side is language that tends to perpetuate current power structures by demeaning and isolating anyone whose positions or even mere existence challenges those power structures. On the other is the use of socially subversive language by the excluded as a way of undermining the power structures that hold them down.
Things only becomes problematic when that distinction is blurred. For example, a group that is an excluded minority in the larger society may have sufficient numbers and influence at a liberal college to start acting like a dominant majority and throwing its weight around -- which was my son's objection -- perhaps without even realizing it.
Conversely, groups that no outside observer would doubt are part of the dominant power structure -- like Christians or white males -- may attempt to cast themselves as oppressed minorities, with the right to use socially subversive language themselves while being protected from having it used against them.
(These two situations are connected, of course, since the right has been very good at picking up incidents of excessive PC-ness on college campuses to either argue against all PC-ness or cast itself as the new oppressed.)
There's no simplistic answer to this tangle -- the only solution I see is to raise everybody's awareness of power relationships in our society and how they mediate all social, economic, and legal interactions, without exception.
In fact, that sort of consciousness-raising would be a good thing in general, since unacknowledged power relationships affect almost every current issue, from the Employee Free Choice Act to copyright and file-sharing to the war on drugs. But it's not something that can be accomplished overnight.
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The Greatest Cliché: The Unexamined Propaganda of "Political Correctness" |
Hello_Kitty |
Mar-19-09 03:45 AM |
#0 |

some of it is generational, more than it is white |
hfojvt |
Mar-19-09 04:30 AM |
#1 |
 
Gee, I didn't realize men and white people were such persecuted minorities. |
Hello_Kitty |
Mar-19-09 04:46 AM |
#2 |
  
do only persecuted minorities suffer? Hath not a white guy eyes? |
hfojvt |
Mar-19-09 05:03 AM |
#4 |
   
Hath not a white guy the ability to not be a bigoted jackass? |
Hello_Kitty |
Mar-19-09 05:42 AM |
#6 |
   
if a white guy is being bullied or mocked... |
whathehell |
Mar-19-09 12:42 PM |
#30 |
   
White guy hath privilege, jackass. Thus ought to be embarassed to tears to talk about |
Political Heretic |
Mar-19-09 02:11 PM |
#86 |
    
privilege, ah ha. So when you cut us, we do not bleed. |
hfojvt |
Mar-19-09 03:30 PM |
#131 |
    
Bigot! You didn't say equus africanus asinus |
Touchdown |
Mar-19-09 03:42 PM |
#139 |
   
It's true. When she's stereotyping white guys, she loses her point. |
Touchdown |
Mar-19-09 03:39 PM |
#137 |
  
Oh' God. There's more? |
Touchdown |
Mar-19-09 03:36 PM |
#133 |
 
Because copyright rules limit you to 4 paragraphs. eom |
Hello_Kitty |
Mar-19-09 03:38 PM |
#136 |
 
So why'd you choose THOSE 4? |
Touchdown |
Mar-19-09 03:40 PM |
#138 |
 
To make you cry. eom |
Hello_Kitty |
Mar-19-09 04:26 PM |
#158 |
 
Eh' You just don't know your place! |
Touchdown |
Mar-19-09 04:29 PM |
#160 |
 
BTW, just because you've said a particular thing for 30 or 40 years. |
Hello_Kitty |
Mar-19-09 04:47 AM |
#3 |
  
Who decides though? |
hfojvt |
Mar-19-09 05:35 AM |
#5 |
   
You weren't voting for Jesse Jackson before I was born. |
Hello_Kitty |
Mar-19-09 05:52 AM |
#7 |
    
HelloKitty, both of you are making valid points, and they are not necessarily exclusive |
Threedifferentones |
Mar-19-09 01:02 PM |
#35 |
     
No, I don't see the "irony" there. |
Hello_Kitty |
Mar-19-09 01:19 PM |
#39 |
    
Ummmm |
Threedifferentones |
Mar-19-09 01:25 PM |
#44 |
    
you're irony-challenged? |
Hannah Bell |
Mar-19-09 01:35 PM |
#56 |
    
Do you need a Midol? |
Hello_Kitty |
Mar-19-09 01:47 PM |
#68 |
    
i do need an aspirin. got one? |
Hannah Bell |
Mar-19-09 01:51 PM |
#73 |
    
you might listen, s/he's actually saying something important about the ultimate sources |
Hannah Bell |
Mar-19-09 01:54 PM |
#74 |
   
Now I'm wondering what to call black folks who aren't American. |
immoderate |
Mar-19-09 07:05 AM |
#15 |
    
CNN still calls them African American even when they're French |
Zywiec |
Mar-19-09 07:11 AM |
#16 |
     
thus revealing the idiocy. |
Hannah Bell |
Mar-19-09 01:37 PM |
#58 |
    
Yeah, that totally reveals it. |
Hello_Kitty |
Mar-19-09 01:57 PM |
#77 |
    
who decided "african american" was "respectful"? do you even *know*? |
Hannah Bell |
Mar-19-09 02:05 PM |
#80 |
    
Actually, I've been told that Mad Men is very accurate. |
Hello_Kitty |
Mar-19-09 02:18 PM |
#94 |
    
i don't care what you've been told. tv is never "accurate". |
Hannah Bell |
Mar-19-09 02:20 PM |
#96 |
     
Oh I see. You're one of those people who has to be right all the time. |
Hello_Kitty |
Mar-19-09 02:22 PM |
#98 |
    
if someone disagrees with you/criticizes something of yours, it must be their personal dysfunction. |
Hannah Bell |
Mar-19-09 02:25 PM |
#103 |
    
And if you disagree with someone's OP |
Hello_Kitty |
Mar-19-09 02:34 PM |
#114 |
    
edit. |
Runcible Spoon |
Mar-19-09 05:03 PM |
#180 |
    
oh just you wait |
hiphopnation |
Mar-19-09 05:05 PM |
#181 |
    
Oh come on, you know you want to. |
Hello_Kitty |
Mar-19-09 05:14 PM |
#186 |
    
Are there really blacks that prefer African American??? |
Lost in CT |
Mar-19-09 02:25 PM |
#102 |
    
I personally know a few. |
Hello_Kitty |
Mar-19-09 02:28 PM |
#105 |
     
Honestly African American is one of the sloppiest PC changes of the last 25 years. |
Lost in CT |
Mar-19-09 02:47 PM |
#122 |
     
but PC is about terms, African American is one example |
hfojvt |
Mar-19-09 03:03 PM |
#126 |
    
They should have changed the song. |
Hello_Kitty |
Mar-19-09 03:47 PM |
#142 |
    
i don't know any. n/t |
hiphopnation |
Mar-19-09 02:46 PM |
#121 |
    
I know quite a number of Black people who do. |
ieoeja |
Mar-19-09 03:45 PM |
#140 |
    
AA is an interesting term... |
newtothegame |
Mar-19-09 10:29 AM |
#25 |
    
Are not all black people American????? |
Lost in CT |
Mar-19-09 01:00 PM |
#34 |
   
Ask you 14 year old niece about smoking... |
Lost in CT |
Mar-19-09 12:59 PM |
#33 |
  
Doesn't make it wrong either. I grew up in the 60s. "Black" became the respectful term then, |
Hannah Bell |
Mar-19-09 07:25 AM |
#17 |
 
And now we're back full circle. |
Touchdown |
Mar-19-09 03:52 PM |
#146 |
 
So, because some people have habits, it's OK? |
PVnRT |
Mar-19-09 07:33 AM |
#19 |
  
what is this "it"? |
Hannah Bell |
Mar-19-09 01:38 PM |
#61 |
 
You're explaining usage of outdated terms. The OP is about the whiney term "political correctness." |
Gormy Cuss |
Mar-19-09 01:28 PM |
#49 |

but that's not the typical case. most people don't throw "chink" into routine conversations as a |
Hannah Bell |
Mar-19-09 01:44 PM |
#66 |

The term "PC" and the attendant disdain for it have always bugged me....... |
marmar |
Mar-19-09 06:06 AM |
#8 |
 
They use it as blanket immunity |
Hello_Kitty |
Mar-19-09 06:14 AM |
#10 |
 
How do these groups determine what they'll call themselves? |
Zywiec |
Mar-19-09 06:37 AM |
#12 |
  
*Gasp* |
Threedifferentones |
Mar-19-09 01:20 PM |
#41 |
 
They don't decide for themselves some paternal twit decides for them. |
Lost in CT |
Mar-19-09 01:10 PM |
#37 |
  
you're closer there than you think. in fact, a lot of it comes from the top. |
Hannah Bell |
Mar-19-09 01:48 PM |
#69 |
 
How do you think a group of people with an IQ of less than 70 |
Zywiec |
Mar-19-09 02:11 PM |
#85 |
 
they didn't. but interest groups & organizations of families & professionals can do so |
Hannah Bell |
Mar-19-09 02:18 PM |
#95 |
 
So Down's syndrome is now Down Syndrome... man they need memos... |
Lost in CT |
Mar-19-09 02:28 PM |
#106 |
  
-ess ending is gendered, tool or oppression, how we speak shapes how we think. |
Hannah Bell |
Mar-19-09 02:36 PM |
#116 |
 
You seem to be paying a lot of attention to it right now. |
Hello_Kitty |
Mar-19-09 03:37 PM |
#135 |
 
chomsky's linguistics has nothing to do with your hobbyhorse. |
Hannah Bell |
Mar-19-09 08:00 PM |
#206 |
 
I think trisomy 21 has always been called Down Syndrome. |
Quantess |
Mar-19-09 06:56 PM |
#203 |
 
Down's syndrome was the term used in printed material at the |
Hannah Bell |
Mar-19-09 08:17 PM |
#208 |
 
Amen! |
FloridaJudy |
Mar-19-09 06:58 PM |
#204 |

most people complaining about PC terms |
morgan2 |
Mar-19-09 06:07 AM |
#9 |
 
But it *is* offensive, to people with mental retardation. |
Bunny |
Mar-19-09 12:39 PM |
#29 |
  
that one, i think, *is* intended to be mocking. i don't think that's really a case of pc. |
Hannah Bell |
Mar-19-09 01:50 PM |
#72 |
 
It is a clinical term. Nevertheless, it is used in a pejorative way, and is hurtful. n/t |
lumberjack_jeff |
Mar-19-09 04:46 PM |
#172 |

Being politically correct is just another way of saying having good manners. |
Kitty Herder |
Mar-19-09 06:29 AM |
#11 |
 
Like Robin Morgan said, PC stands for Plain Courtesy. eom |
Hello_Kitty |
Mar-19-09 06:52 AM |
#14 |
  
The article is stereotyped garbage, printed by ruling class lackeys to divide people |
Hannah Bell |
Mar-19-09 07:28 AM |
#18 |
 
Yeah, bitches and niggers just need to lighten up |
Hello_Kitty |
Mar-19-09 01:09 PM |
#36 |
 
you miss the point. entirely. |
Hannah Bell |
Mar-19-09 01:27 PM |
#48 |
 
Outside of African American Rappers who really uses such language. nt |
Lost in CT |
Mar-19-09 01:37 PM |
#59 |
 
Oh geez, this bullshit again. |
Hello_Kitty |
Mar-19-09 01:50 PM |
#70 |
  
I wouldn't want to use those words I have class and education. |
Lost in CT |
Mar-19-09 02:13 PM |
#91 |
 
I find that people who have to announce how classy they are. |
Hello_Kitty |
Mar-19-09 03:05 PM |
#127 |
 
Again I do not know anybody, of any race, who uses those words... |
Lost in CT |
Mar-19-09 03:14 PM |
#129 |
 
You are correct. I only know a handful of ignoramuses who use "nigger" all the time. |
ieoeja |
Mar-19-09 03:51 PM |
# |
 
Funny i don't know anybody who uses such terms... nt |
Lost in CT |
Mar-19-09 06:06 PM |
#200 |
 
no, it's often a way of getting one-up on others, & being rude. |
Hannah Bell |
Mar-19-09 01:56 PM |
#76 |
 
Yep. Down here in the South I hear complaints against the "PC police" |
Lorien |
Mar-19-09 04:28 PM |
#159 |

When I hear "PC Police," people who get offended when people use words *clearly* |
Hannah Bell |
Mar-19-09 08:33 PM |
#210 |

It has always been my contention than PC'ness comes in two flavors, |
Berry Cool |
Mar-19-09 06:52 AM |
#13 |
 
I agree. Conservatives are the source of some of the most obnoxious PC terms |
last_texas_dem |
Mar-19-09 08:28 PM |
#209 |

Anyone who uses the term unironically is an idiot |
alcibiades_mystery |
Mar-19-09 08:25 AM |
#20 |

"Asian-American" isn't PC. "Undocumented Worker" IS PC. |
Odin2005 |
Mar-19-09 09:12 AM |
#21 |
 
Fraudulent Worker |
Kansas Wyatt |
Mar-19-09 09:35 AM |
#23 |

I'll still use "illegal immigrant", thank you. |
Odin2005 |
Mar-19-09 09:46 AM |
#24 |

One of the greatest vids showing the stupidity of PC is... |
AB_Positive |
Mar-19-09 09:28 AM |
#22 |
 
Brilliant |
rolltideroll |
Mar-19-09 12:32 PM |
#28 |
 
Love Ben Croshaw always great stuff every Weds. nt |
Lost in CT |
Mar-19-09 01:19 PM |
#40 |
  
He's an auto-watch for me too |
AB_Positive |
Mar-19-09 01:22 PM |
#42 |
 
I spread mine to thin on the bread for his taste.... |
Lost in CT |
Mar-19-09 01:27 PM |
#47 |
 
Oh gee, he's a white guy. |
Hello_Kitty |
Mar-19-09 01:24 PM |
#43 |

the only reason anyone might have a problem with the concept is cuz they're |
Hannah Bell |
Mar-19-09 01:30 PM |
#50 |
 
In what possible way is the immigrant in the video above privledged... seriously. |
Lost in CT |
Mar-19-09 01:39 PM |
#62 |

i have no idea why you're asking the question or what your point is. |
Hannah Bell |
Mar-19-09 02:14 PM |
#92 |

The immigrant in the video above Mr. Crenshaw... in what way is he privileged. |
Lost in CT |
Mar-19-09 02:21 PM |
#97 |

I didn't see the video, the only time i used the word "privilege" was ironically. |
Hannah Bell |
Mar-19-09 08:35 PM |
#211 |

I second your Non-PC using computer geeks are lame ass douchebag faggots |
Lost in CT |
Mar-19-09 01:35 PM |
#55 |

Whatsa matter? Don't like being called names? |
Hello_Kitty |
Mar-19-09 01:42 PM |
#64 |

Cause Apple computers don't work with my Hentai game collection? nt |
Lost in CT |
Mar-19-09 02:12 PM |
#89 |

PC-ness becomes a problem when it goes beyond language |
starroute |
Mar-19-09 11:50 AM |
#26 |
 
pc - it's a power thing, too. |
Hannah Bell |
Mar-19-09 01:34 PM |
#53 |
  
I think you just need a man. |
Hello_Kitty |
Mar-19-09 01:45 PM |
#67 |
 
you're silly. you don't have power over me, i don't care what you call me. |
Hannah Bell |
Mar-19-09 02:06 PM |
#82 |
 
I can tell by the way you keep coming here to comment that you don't care. eom |
Hello_Kitty |
Mar-19-09 04:24 PM |
#156 |
 
no logical connection. |
Hannah Bell |
Mar-19-09 09:25 PM |
#224 |
 
I don't think a lot of you read the whole article. |
Hello_Kitty |
Mar-19-09 01:35 PM |
#54 |

Your writer lives in some self serving dream world... |
Lost in CT |
Mar-19-09 02:32 PM |
#111 |

Before it became a rw griping point, however, it was a REAL phrase used by some on the "left". |
Warren DeMontague |
Mar-19-09 12:24 PM |
#27 |
 
I guess you didn't read the whole article |
Hello_Kitty |
Mar-19-09 01:41 PM |
#63 |
  
i didn't read the whole article because the first page was so stupid. |
Hannah Bell |
Mar-19-09 02:11 PM |
#88 |
  
Well, then all the more reason why it was an idiotic thing for certain self-appointed poobahs |
Warren DeMontague |
Mar-19-09 02:29 PM |
#109 |
 
Really? |
Hello_Kitty |
Mar-19-09 05:35 PM |
#195 |
 
Actually, I don't think you hear it all that much in seriousness, anymore. |
Warren DeMontague |
Mar-19-09 05:52 PM |
#199 |
 
I remember it too. I was in college then. |
Hello_Kitty |
Mar-19-09 06:22 PM |
#202 |
 
I must have traveled in the fringe groups--- |
Warren DeMontague |
Mar-19-09 10:08 PM |
#229 |
 
i remember it too. originated in the sectarian left milieu, is my recollection. |
Hannah Bell |
Mar-19-09 02:09 PM |
#84 |

Bzzzzt! Sorry, but thanks for playing. |
Hello_Kitty |
Mar-19-09 08:59 PM |
#214 |

lady, you weren't there. & you don't have clue one what the sectarian |
Hannah Bell |
Mar-19-09 09:37 PM |
#227 |

This writer is manipulative. |
aikoaiko |
Mar-19-09 12:52 PM |
#31 |
 
"...people who are merely clinging to mean-spirited names." |
Hello_Kitty |
Mar-19-09 01:13 PM |
#38 |
  
and they're a major social problem, aren't they? i hear these words all the time in public. |
Hannah Bell |
Mar-19-09 02:02 PM |
#79 |
   
Co-ed? Holy crap you really are stuck in 1965. |
Hello_Kitty |
Mar-19-09 05:39 PM |
#196 |
  
the irony-challenged one strikes again. |
Hannah Bell |
Mar-19-09 08:41 PM |
#212 |
  
Yes, that is the whole point of the article, but that's not the perspective of reasonable people |
aikoaiko |
Mar-20-09 05:15 AM |
#232 |
 
exactly. |
Hannah Bell |
Mar-19-09 02:12 PM |
#90 |

African American works fine as long as the Black person in question is American and in America. |
Lost in CT |
Mar-19-09 12:56 PM |
#32 |

Is schadenfreude a bad slip of the PC to one's spaceless psycho logisticals? |
Festivito |
Mar-19-09 01:25 PM |
#45 |

It's rather hilarious watching some people's reactions to the OP |
Hello_Kitty |
Mar-19-09 01:26 PM |
#46 |
 
yes, i look down haughtily on you all from my privileged perch. |
Hannah Bell |
Mar-19-09 01:32 PM |
#51 |
  
Obviously. eom |
Hello_Kitty |
Mar-19-09 01:37 PM |
#60 |
  
Why so touchy this morning? PMSing? |
Hello_Kitty |
Mar-19-09 01:43 PM |
#65 |
 
you're silly. you totally miss the point, & miss it so wide you'll never get it. |
Hannah Bell |
Mar-19-09 01:58 PM |
#78 |
 
It's making my ignore list management pretty easy today |
Wednesdays |
Mar-19-09 01:50 PM |
#71 |
 
You were right, Hello Kitty, I did not read the whole article |
Threedifferentones |
Mar-19-09 02:06 PM |
#81 |
  
On behalf of the entire Internets |
Hello_Kitty |
Mar-19-09 02:11 PM |
#87 |
   
You crossed the line in the very first subthread |
Threedifferentones |
Mar-19-09 02:33 PM |
#112 |
  
Oh brother |
Hello_Kitty |
Mar-19-09 03:26 PM |
#130 |
  
Hey you know the violin smiley! |
Touchdown |
Mar-19-09 04:15 PM |
#151 |
  
Awww....da poor widdle white dood is getting his fee fees hurted. |
Hello_Kitty |
Mar-19-09 04:23 PM |
#155 |
  
Not really. Just this flaming faggot is having the time of his life |
Touchdown |
Mar-19-09 04:33 PM |
#163 |
  
oh god it gets more banal. glad i didn't read it. |
Hannah Bell |
Mar-19-09 02:23 PM |
#99 |
 
If you didn't read it, how do you know? |
Hello_Kitty |
Mar-19-09 02:25 PM |
#101 |
 
cause i read the part he excerpted, & it was worse. |
Hannah Bell |
Mar-19-09 02:27 PM |
#104 |
  
PC was a common meme in 1965? |
Hello_Kitty |
Mar-19-09 02:29 PM |
#108 |
 
Uh, no, but how things should be called was a VERY big issue. |
Hannah Bell |
Mar-19-09 02:33 PM |
#113 |
 
And as is typical of old farts, you are threatened by change. |
Hello_Kitty |
Mar-19-09 02:44 PM |
#120 |
 
you seem to have a problem thinking. |
Hannah Bell |
Mar-19-09 08:52 PM |
#213 |
 
You are becoming increasingly incoherent. |
Hello_Kitty |
Mar-19-09 09:04 PM |
#216 |
 
you've been that way from your first post to me. take a look at it. |
Hannah Bell |
Mar-19-09 09:27 PM |
#225 |
 
I don't have to shave my ass and sit in a bowl of gin to know it's painful. |
Touchdown |
Mar-19-09 04:17 PM |
#153 |
 
Actually what's more hilarious is your obvious circumlocutions |
Touchdown |
Mar-19-09 04:10 PM |
#150 |

Do you know what circumlocution means? |
Hello_Kitty |
Mar-19-09 04:26 PM |
#157 |

Yes I do. |
Touchdown |
Mar-19-09 04:31 PM |
#162 |

Okay, give me an example of "circumlocution" in a post of mine. |
Hello_Kitty |
Mar-19-09 04:34 PM |
#164 |

Posts.. 2,3,7,7,68,94,39,142... |
Touchdown |
Mar-19-09 04:48 PM |
#173 |

I'm impressed that you gathered all those numbers. You still didn't answer me. |
Hello_Kitty |
Mar-19-09 04:54 PM |
#175 |

I got you didn't I? |
Touchdown |
Mar-19-09 04:58 PM |
#178 |

May never have fully dawned on some of you |
dipsydoodle |
Mar-19-09 01:33 PM |
#52 |
 
Blow it out your ass, limey. eom |
Hello_Kitty |
Mar-19-09 01:36 PM |
#57 |

Sticks and stones............ |
dipsydoodle |
Mar-19-09 01:54 PM |
#75 |

Sticks and stones my ass |
Hello_Kitty |
Mar-19-09 02:07 PM |
#83 |

she knows what *everyone* wants to be called! she is the hippest chick in the room. |
Hannah Bell |
Mar-19-09 02:29 PM |
#110 |
 
Do you have a point, at all? |
Hello_Kitty |
Mar-19-09 02:35 PM |
#115 |

I've seen guys get in fistfights over insults, or even over being looked at in the wrong way |
Lost in CT |
Mar-19-09 03:51 PM |
#143 |

There you go showing how classy you are again. |
Hello_Kitty |
Mar-19-09 03:57 PM |
#148 |

So I lack class because my male friends don't get into fistfights over respect???? |
Lost in CT |
Mar-19-09 04:02 PM |
#149 |

So I'm a member of a defective subculture because I've seen men get into fistfights over slights? |
Hello_Kitty |
Mar-19-09 04:19 PM |
#154 |

Holy shit, the White Privilege is strong in this thread! |
Political Heretic |
Mar-19-09 02:16 PM |
#93 |
 
Ain't it though? |
Hello_Kitty |
Mar-19-09 02:23 PM |
#100 |
 
yes, that must be it. |
Hannah Bell |
Mar-19-09 02:28 PM |
#107 |
  
Oh jesus fucking god! Is that what this poutrage is about? |
Hello_Kitty |
Mar-19-09 02:39 PM |
#117 |
   
you're silly. do you always read your own script into one sentence? |
Hannah Bell |
Mar-19-09 02:42 PM |
#119 |
  
And if you wonder why a lot of people think liberals are pedantic elitists |
Hello_Kitty |
Mar-19-09 02:58 PM |
#124 |
  
no, it took place in graduate school. i was in my 40s, she in her 30s. |
Hannah Bell |
Mar-19-09 07:43 PM |
#205 |
  
I made no assumption about your ages. |
Hello_Kitty |
Mar-19-09 08:08 PM |
#207 |
  
your relegation of pc to "college" & discussion of college being a place to explore ideas |
Hannah Bell |
Mar-19-09 09:02 PM |
#215 |
  
You can't do those things as an older person? |
Hello_Kitty |
Mar-19-09 09:05 PM |
#217 |
  
your phraseology speaks for itself; the implication is clear. |
Hannah Bell |
Mar-19-09 09:10 PM |
#219 |
  
It's not always about you, whoever you are |
Political Heretic |
Mar-19-09 02:54 PM |
#123 |
 
not always. but in *this* case, the comment was made about discussants in "this thread." so who |
Hannah Bell |
Mar-19-09 09:05 PM |
#218 |
 
Indeed! nt |
Lorien |
Mar-19-09 04:30 PM |
#161 |
 
As a white male, I agree. If somone is offended by the term use to describe them, then I apologize |
U4ikLefty |
Mar-19-09 05:12 PM |
# |
  
You've hit the nail squarely on the head and won the thread. |
Political Heretic |
Mar-20-09 12:50 PM |
#234 |
 
Ain't it?? They're squealing like stuck pigs! |
Number23 |
Mar-20-09 05:59 AM |
#233 |

The labels "African-American" and "Asian-American" are too broad |
derby378 |
Mar-19-09 02:42 PM |
#118 |

this could have been written in 1995 |
hiphopnation |
Mar-19-09 02:59 PM |
#125 |
 
Apparently it's not because people are still complaing about "PC" |
Hello_Kitty |
Mar-19-09 03:06 PM |
#128 |
  
i don't know people that still complain about the term |
hiphopnation |
Mar-19-09 03:35 PM |
#132 |
 
it could have been, & was, written in 1985, 1975, 1965, & probably before that too. |
Hannah Bell |
Mar-19-09 09:11 PM |
#220 |

Hello_Kitty, as a result of your comments in this thread, I am... |
Gold Metal Flake |
Mar-19-09 03:36 PM |
#134 |

I have to line up behind George Carlin on this topic |
cobalt1999 |
Mar-19-09 03:46 PM |
#141 |
 
Okay, I'm with George. Let's describe people as "pink" and "brown". |
Hello_Kitty |
Mar-19-09 03:51 PM |
#144 |
  
And I am brown... well beige.... nt |
Lost in CT |
Mar-19-09 03:54 PM |
#147 |
 
It depends on the time of year for me. |
Touchdown |
Mar-19-09 04:36 PM |
#167 |
 
TMI, dude, really. |
Hello_Kitty |
Mar-19-09 04:41 PM |
#169 |
 
Your avatar said worse in her day. |
Touchdown |
Mar-19-09 04:55 PM |
#176 |
 
She was Bette Davis. You are a random douchewad on the internet. |
Hello_Kitty |
Mar-19-09 05:09 PM |
#183 |
 
If your going to use an epithet, get it right. |
Touchdown |
Mar-19-09 05:14 PM |
#185 |
 
I'm her second cousin's wife's third cousin. |
Hello_Kitty |
Mar-19-09 05:18 PM |
#188 |
 
Janet is that you? |
Touchdown |
Mar-19-09 05:23 PM |
#191 |
 
Carlin nailed this topic |
hiphopnation |
Mar-19-09 03:51 PM |
#145 |
 
"Labels divide people." hear, hear. & that's precisely why so many of them are invented by the |
Hannah Bell |
Mar-19-09 09:14 PM |
#221 |

Excellent article. k+r |
ColbertWatcher |
Mar-19-09 04:15 PM |
#152 |

This article is a load of shit! |
Touchdown |
Mar-19-09 04:35 PM |
#165 |
 
And yet you're still here babbling about it. eom |
Hello_Kitty |
Mar-19-09 04:36 PM |
#166 |
  
Why'd you say babbling? Is that a gay slur? Do you hate gay people? |
Touchdown |
Mar-19-09 04:50 PM |
#174 |
 
Oh so you're one of them? |
Hello_Kitty |
Mar-19-09 04:56 PM |
#177 |
 
What do you want me to be? |
Touchdown |
Mar-19-09 04:59 PM |
#179 |
 
I want to know if its okay to use gay slurs around you. |
Hello_Kitty |
Mar-19-09 05:08 PM |
#182 |
 
Oh' that. See, I thought that since you wrote 30 or so insensitive posts |
Touchdown |
Mar-19-09 05:12 PM |
#184 |
 
It was fairly clear I was (facetiously) making a point. |
Hello_Kitty |
Mar-19-09 05:16 PM |
#187 |
 
I know. You are just lame at making the point. |
Touchdown |
Mar-19-09 05:21 PM |
#190 |
 
I don't have to admit anything just because you disagree with my opinion. |
Hello_Kitty |
Mar-19-09 05:25 PM |
#193 |
 
Because I'm not acting. I'm just pushing your buttons |
Touchdown |
Mar-19-09 05:42 PM |
#198 |
 
so is this thread |
hiphopnation |
Mar-19-09 04:40 PM |
#168 |

I was eating a frozen pizza while reading/writing in it. |
Touchdown |
Mar-19-09 05:18 PM |
#189 |

... |
hiphopnation |
Mar-19-09 05:24 PM |
#192 |

Try cooking it first. It tastes better that way. eom |
Hello_Kitty |
Mar-19-09 05:26 PM |
#194 |

I had Bette's maid cook it for me, Dearie. |
Touchdown |
Mar-19-09 05:41 PM |
#197 |

true enough, but the worst one of all is "conspiracy theory" |
JackRiddler |
Mar-19-09 04:42 PM |
#170 |

I think he's confusing insensitive with PC. |
lumberjack_jeff |
Mar-19-09 04:44 PM |
#171 |
 
yep. |
Hannah Bell |
Mar-19-09 09:19 PM |
#222 |
 
I think a nail has just met a head.... |
Lost in CT |
Mar-20-09 01:47 AM |
#231 |

I always thought idea of people using the term PC just meant |
Geek_Girl |
Mar-19-09 06:12 PM |
#201 |
 
no, that's what it means to rush limbaugh. |
Hannah Bell |
Mar-19-09 09:23 PM |
#223 |

My observation of you earlier today was quite accurate. |
Hello_Kitty |
Mar-19-09 09:36 PM |
#226 |

she says in post 226. |
Hannah Bell |
Mar-19-09 09:40 PM |
#228 |

I remember when this blog post first came out |
noamnety |
Mar-19-09 10:39 PM |
#230 |