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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-18-09 06:24 PM
Response to Reply #31
36. I think sometimes DU'ers see a conspiracy in everything
Edited on Wed Mar-18-09 06:25 PM by RamboLiberal
The creator of the radio show probably picked it cause it sounded Indian or something. And that would've been way back in the 30's.

By the time of the TV series Tonto was an established character and they would've been loathe to change the name.

Jay Silverheels was Native American - apparently he had no problem with the name.

BTW, came across this while googling this subject.

For instance, a Far Side comic strip has the long - since retired Lone Ranger discovering ( In an Indian dictionary ) that kemosabe is an Apache expression for a horses rear end.. In the early 1970s, Jay Silverheels appeared as a guest on The Tonight Show Starring Johnny Carson, playing Tonto, with Johnny Carson playing a career counselor.. Tonto was seeking a new job after having spent thirty lousy years as the Rangers faithful Indian companion.. ( Him let me peek under mask once.. No big deal! ) As to why he was no longer working with the Masked Man, Tonto said, Him find out what kemosabe means!

http://tomorrows-entertainment.com/hi-yo-silver-the-lon... /

I also remember Bill Cosby had a great skit on the Lone Ranger sending Tonto to town where he always got beat up. Till Tonto finally had enough.
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  -Was the Lone Ranger a Racist? TWiley  Mar-18-09 05:41 PM   #0 
  - I can only imagine what kimosabe meant.  MrPerson   Mar-18-09 05:43 PM   #1 
  - LMAO ,,,,, I will have to look that one up  TWiley   Mar-18-09 05:44 PM   #3 
  - qui no sabe - Spanish for "clueless."  wyldwolf   Mar-18-09 05:48 PM   #11 
  - I guess Kimosabe typically means "Faithful Friend" in some Native American Languages  TWiley   Mar-18-09 05:47 PM   #8 
  - kemosabe - Que no sabe (he who knows nothing) n/t  Xipe Totec   Mar-18-09 05:49 PM   #15 
     - Now that is interesting.  TWiley   Mar-18-09 05:55 PM   #24 
  - Gary Larson figured it out years ago...  3waygeek   Mar-18-09 06:00 PM   #27 
  - I caught that too when I took Spanish 101  sasquatch   Mar-18-09 05:44 PM   #2 
  - I think kemosabe means chickenshit n/t  Xipe Totec   Mar-18-09 05:44 PM   #4 
  - I thought it meant "my ride in Hollywood".  EFerrari   Mar-18-09 05:47 PM   #9 
  - Maybe kimosabe means.... one who ducks thrown guns on horseback  TWiley   Mar-18-09 05:48 PM   #10 
  - I thought the name "Tonto" was made up to be like "Squanto"  Dogmudgeon   Mar-18-09 05:45 PM   #5 
  - Tonto does mean stupid. n/t  EFerrari   Mar-18-09 05:46 PM   #7 
  - I think you are probably right -  tbyg52   Mar-18-09 05:51 PM   #17 
  - Of couse he was. And he fit in perfectly with what the rest of pop culture at the time.  EFerrari   Mar-18-09 05:46 PM   #6 
  - I like Fred Astaire ...  TWiley   Mar-18-09 05:50 PM   #16 
  - Wasn't the whole character a dumb, racist stereotype?  HiFructosePronSyrup   Mar-18-09 05:49 PM   #12 
  - I think it was .... but I thought it was normal at the time.  TWiley   Mar-18-09 05:52 PM   #19 
  - Yeah, well, so was racism.  HiFructosePronSyrup   Mar-18-09 05:52 PM   #20 
     - Yes, that is the insideous power of racism  TWiley   Mar-18-09 05:57 PM   #25 
  - He was definitely  customerserviceguy   Mar-18-09 06:15 PM   #34 
  - In spanish (they dub tv programs in other countries)  lunatica   Mar-18-09 05:49 PM   #13 
  - Was Amos and Andy racist?  Stinky The Clown   Mar-18-09 05:49 PM   #14 
  - Why Amos and Andy?  TWiley   Mar-18-09 05:51 PM   #18 
     - Pop culture contemporaries  Stinky The Clown   Mar-18-09 06:13 PM   #32 
  - Um, the Lone Ranger was a fictitious character  tularetom   Mar-18-09 05:52 PM   #21 
  - I thought it was supposed to mean "scout"  nxylas   Mar-18-09 05:53 PM   #22 
  - and one day Tonto said  onethatcares   Mar-18-09 05:53 PM   #23 
  - The Straight Dope  Dogmudgeon   Mar-18-09 05:59 PM   #26 
  - That was interesing reading .... thanks.  TWiley   Mar-18-09 06:07 PM   #30 
  - On the radio, the Lone Ranger and Tonto both rode on Silver. Together.  TahitiNut   Mar-18-09 06:03 PM   #28 
  - LOL!!!! I'd love to see a remake with the horse-sharing. nt  valerief   Mar-18-09 06:13 PM   #33 
     - I'm an 'expert' on them ... listened religiously on my little radio as a kid in the 40s.  TahitiNut   Mar-18-09 06:24 PM   #35 
        - I was a kid in the 50s and remember the teevee show. I didn't like that much  valerief   Mar-18-09 06:56 PM   #38 
  - Well at least they had a Native American in the role of Tonto  RamboLiberal   Mar-18-09 06:06 PM   #29 
  - It seems like a pretty covert way to be a racist  petronius   Mar-18-09 06:11 PM   #31 
  - I think sometimes DU'ers see a conspiracy in everything  RamboLiberal   Mar-18-09 06:24 PM   #36 
  - You didn't know that? Heh.  BlooInBloo   Mar-18-09 06:27 PM   #37 
 

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