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Lorax Donating Member (307 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-17-09 06:03 PM
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11. K&R!
I'm not so sure about the charter school thing, but to everything else I say yes, yes, yes and YES!

Oh yeah, I forgot about having to buy pencils and papers and folders for my kids. Thanks for reminding me of yet another reason I have more money now that I DON'T have a job than I did when I was a teacher.

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  -Here's An Idea For Education: Fund The God-Damned Public Schools To Begin With! stopbush  Mar-17-09 05:30 PM   #0 
  - Massive teacher layoffs in CA this week.  HiFructosePronSyrup   Mar-17-09 05:32 PM   #1 
  - Tell me about it. My kid's school system CUSD put out about 400  stopbush   Mar-17-09 05:56 PM   #9 
  - His tax cuts would take a few million from my school.  Mollis   Mar-18-09 12:22 PM   #35 
     - do not complain about CA CC rates. They are CRAZY cheap.  Sirveri   Mar-18-09 03:37 PM   #47 
  - Part of the problem  sense   Mar-17-09 06:06 PM   #13 
     - Currently, the people at the top in DC are screwing the states on the coasts  stopbush   Mar-17-09 06:16 PM   #15 
     - Lets go ahead and apply this principle to all social programs  Thothmes   Mar-17-09 06:30 PM   #20 
        - I agree, but as a person living in CA I'm a bit tired of hearing from  stopbush   Mar-17-09 06:45 PM   #22 
     - The problem...  HiFructosePronSyrup   Mar-17-09 06:17 PM   #16 
        - BINGO!  stopbush   Mar-17-09 06:18 PM   #18 
        - I agree  sense   Mar-17-09 06:21 PM   #19 
        - They also overlook the top end and just blame the teachers  Norquist Nemesis   Mar-18-09 02:13 AM   #26 
        - I'm so sick of the "I don't want to pay any taxes" assholes!  CrispyQ   Mar-18-09 10:22 AM   #31 
  - So very K&R!  FiveGoodMen   Mar-17-09 05:36 PM   #2 
  - they are prob gonna cancel summer school here and are toying with a 4 day week  NightWatcher   Mar-17-09 05:38 PM   #3 
  - What really gets me is the jagoffs who compare teaching to the business world.  Hello_Kitty   Mar-17-09 05:43 PM   #4 
  - Um. Charter schools ARE public schools.  alstephenson   Mar-17-09 05:44 PM   #5 
  - Yes, I know that. Private schools are another matter altogether.  stopbush   Mar-17-09 06:06 PM   #12 
  - End charter schools.  ColbertWatcher   Mar-17-09 06:12 PM   #14 
     - Some people would like to use  noamnety   Mar-18-09 12:18 PM   #34 
  - it really says something when teachers have to spend their own money  ejpoeta   Mar-17-09 05:48 PM   #6 
  - But it's so much easier  Jakes Progress   Mar-17-09 05:49 PM   #7 
  - K&R!  lib_wit_it   Mar-17-09 05:53 PM   #8 
  - Amen, brother.  wickerwoman   Mar-17-09 05:57 PM   #10 
  - K&R!  Lorax   Mar-17-09 06:03 PM   #11 
  - Amen! eom  FloridaJudy   Mar-17-09 06:17 PM   #17 
  - 5 year old article.  noamnety   Mar-17-09 06:44 PM   #21 
  - Exactly. Thanks for posting, noamnety.  alstephenson   Mar-17-09 07:19 PM   #23 
  - From the same article you cited, a bit further down the page:  stopbush   Mar-18-09 12:11 AM   #24 
     - Still unwilling to address the more difficult issue  noamnety   Mar-18-09 05:54 AM   #27 
        - It's easy to address. Charter schools almost always have smaller class sizes  stopbush   Mar-18-09 01:23 PM   #44 
           - I suspect there's more to it than that. :)  noamnety   Mar-18-09 02:18 PM   #46 
  - The pubs started all this with their "lets not just throw money at it" rhetoric  wroberts189   Mar-18-09 02:04 AM   #25 
  - Now THAT's a good idea (n/t)  bread_and_roses   Mar-18-09 06:03 AM   #28 
  - it's such bullshit to claim that teachers don't make a living wage.  cali   Mar-18-09 06:06 AM   #29 
  - True  quaker bill   Mar-18-09 06:53 AM   #30 
  - Maybe public school teachers do, but it depends on the district.  knitter4democracy   Mar-18-09 04:48 PM   #48 
  - Well said!  CrispyQ   Mar-18-09 10:29 AM   #32 
  - You can't make schools better by throwing money at them  nichomachus   Mar-18-09 11:54 AM   #33 
  - Yah - because well-paid idiots would teach sooooo much better than ill-paid idiots.  BlooInBloo   Mar-18-09 12:23 PM   #36 
  - Uh-huh. Teachers are idiots, eh?  PVnRT   Mar-18-09 12:38 PM   #37 
     - Yup, for the larger part.  BlooInBloo   Mar-18-09 12:41 PM   #38 
     - Even better...  GaYellowDawg   Mar-18-09 12:48 PM   #40 
     - He's had some weird vendetta for some time.  HiFructosePronSyrup   Mar-18-09 01:01 PM   #42 
  - Hear, hear!  Vidar   Mar-18-09 12:45 PM   #39 
  - Which requires a fundamental shift in the way we think and what we value.  Pacifist Patriot   Mar-18-09 12:58 PM   #41 
  - Right on! nt  raccoon   Mar-18-09 01:20 PM   #43 
     - On the other hand...  Pacifist Patriot   Mar-18-09 05:14 PM   #49 
  - What you said  wryter2000   Mar-18-09 01:29 PM   #45 
  - this is the real bottom line  noiretextatique   Mar-18-09 05:20 PM   #50 

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