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Tue Mar-17-09 04:59 PM
Response to Reply #45 |
| 50. That doesn't make much sense... |
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Edited on Tue Mar-17-09 05:08 PM by Lucky Luciano
Certainly Goldman or whoever did not give their TARP money to the Swiss...if you mean bonuses of execs going to their personal Swiss bank accts, well....even if some did, it was a miniscule amount. Most bankers are not fat cats - most are just upper middle class bordering on rich - definitely not secret Swiss bank account worthy people. Not sure if AIG was a counterparty for UBS, but if they were, then UBS may have gotten money from the Fed indirectly this way (by having AIG post collateral on their CDS contracts), though that is not TARP money either - AIG is its own animal - one big nast mofo. I don't think I remember seeing UBS as one of the counterparties though. I see this list actually (from a FrenchieCat post):
* Goldman Sachs * Deutsche Bank * Merrill Lynch * Société Générale * Calyon * Barclays * Rabobank * Danske * HSBC * Royal Bank of Scotland * Banco Santander * Morgan Stanley * Wachovia * Bank of America * Lloyds Banking Group
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| -The Real AIG Scandal-By Eliot Spitzer: "This Was ALL An INSIDE JOB" |
kpete |
Mar-17-09 12:56 PM |
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This is the motherlode. Those who KNOW have to tell us what;s going on. Thanks, kpete! |
chimpymustgo |
Mar-17-09 12:58 PM |
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A big K&R. Spitzer was on AIG's back when the feds went after him. |
McCamy Taylor |
Mar-17-09 08:19 PM |
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exactemundo nt |
flamingdem |
Mar-17-09 11:30 PM |
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A boobytrap in other words. |
no_hypocrisy |
Mar-17-09 01:02 PM |
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I gathered from another article that, |
RJ Connors |
Mar-17-09 06:29 PM |
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K&R |
Solly Mack |
Mar-17-09 01:02 PM |
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I am missing Eliot Spitzer already.... |
TheCoxwain |
Mar-17-09 01:03 PM |
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I have missed him since the very day he was shot down. |
truedelphi |
Mar-17-09 01:11 PM |
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he gave them the rope.. |
stillcool |
Mar-17-09 01:13 PM |
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Spitzer's personal issues were the public reason for his downfall |
baldguy |
Mar-17-09 01:59 PM |
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and HE had to have known that was so... |
windbreeze |
Mar-17-09 03:31 PM |
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...at least he managed to stay alive. |
bbgrunt |
Mar-17-09 06:10 PM |
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Yes, he did, |
elleng |
Mar-17-09 08:37 PM |
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I still do not know what is the big deal if he had a hooker.... |
TheCoxwain |
Mar-17-09 04:24 PM |
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Vitter got caught and he's still in office. |
louis-t |
Mar-17-09 04:50 PM |
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Joe Scarborough and dead assisstant |
Jambalaya |
Mar-17-09 11:04 PM |
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the outrage is only justified if it is REPUBLICAN outrage... |
windbreeze |
Mar-17-09 05:53 PM |
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Hooker was a set-up? |
Jambalaya |
Mar-18-09 12:01 AM |
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Screwer or screwee |
Jambalaya |
Mar-17-09 06:59 PM |
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Sex....seems to be the only thing that outrages 'murkins. |
NoSheep |
Mar-18-09 11:26 AM |
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K & R |
navarth |
Mar-17-09 01:03 PM |
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we are slowly inching closer to the truth. |
burythehatchet |
Mar-17-09 01:05 PM |
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same mo as well...aig bonuses and the 'gun to your head' bailout in sept..fast...lets round up these |
xiamiam |
Mar-17-09 01:05 PM |
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Shoot them |
The Wizard |
Mar-18-09 07:35 AM |
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Spitzer certainly puts forward excellent questions that should be... |
Spazito |
Mar-17-09 01:07 PM |
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Elliot knows the answers to these questions. That's why they outed him. |
Last Stand |
Mar-17-09 06:13 PM |
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Now we know why Spitzer had to be destroyed |
nichomachus |
Mar-17-09 01:08 PM |
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I wouldn't doubt it. |
polichick |
Mar-17-09 06:36 PM |
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Everything's a conspiracy |
Echo In Light |
Mar-17-09 01:11 PM |
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With criminal enterprises it always is. n/t |
tuckessee |
Mar-17-09 01:20 PM |
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And that's what's so perplexing about those who honestly believe conspiracies are non-existent |
Echo In Light |
Mar-17-09 02:29 PM |
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And that is business as usual. Damage control is done by big business's media |
valerief |
Mar-17-09 04:46 PM |
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Unfortunately it seems to work that way within most social/belief structures |
Echo In Light |
Mar-18-09 10:17 AM |
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RICO Enforcement |
Jambalaya |
Mar-17-09 03:18 PM |
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With ever crime, the Police want to know who else is involved! n/t |
Downwinder |
Mar-17-09 08:14 PM |
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We need Eliot Spitzer. Racketeering or other criminal convictions may get $ flowing back to us.nt |
terisan |
Mar-17-09 01:12 PM |
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K & R. n/t |
arthritisR_US |
Mar-17-09 01:12 PM |
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Could this be a rope-a-dope? |
WeDidIt |
Mar-17-09 01:15 PM |
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k & r |
elizfeelinggreat |
Mar-17-09 01:15 PM |
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It seems so Enron-ish. |
stillcool |
Mar-17-09 01:19 PM |
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Foreclosure Phil |
Jambalaya |
Mar-17-09 03:32 PM |
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uhhhhh...errrrrr....no foreign banks received TARP money... |
Lucky Luciano |
Mar-17-09 04:21 PM |
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I think the poster means indirectly. |
ColbertWatcher |
Mar-17-09 04:41 PM |
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That doesn't make much sense... |
Lucky Luciano |
Mar-17-09 04:59 PM |
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Ugh, I missed a step. |
ColbertWatcher |
Mar-17-09 05:12 PM |
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mehh...I covered that part...not significant. nt |
Lucky Luciano |
Mar-17-09 05:18 PM |
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Payouts to UBS via AIG |
Jambalaya |
Mar-17-09 06:48 PM |
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I saw Senator Olympia J. Snowe on tv today say she and Senator Wyden had it written in Stimulus |
flyarm |
Mar-17-09 07:38 PM |
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That's a real shame. |
elleng |
Mar-17-09 08:43 PM |
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how likely?? she shouldn't..none of them should sign off on anything |
flyarm |
Mar-18-09 10:53 AM |
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As to last bill, which was required |
elleng |
Mar-18-09 08:25 PM |
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Larry Summers and California Energy "crisis" / Enron |
Jambalaya |
Mar-17-09 10:57 PM |
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Tim Geithner worked for 3 years at Kissingers firm..and then the CFR......... |
flyarm |
Mar-18-09 10:39 AM |
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K&R |
pleah |
Mar-17-09 01:22 PM |
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The next company that comes with it's hand out needs to go immediately |
Ganja Ninja |
Mar-17-09 01:22 PM |
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dupe |
pleah |
Mar-17-09 01:23 PM |
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Here's more from TIME: Obama's AIG Outrage: All Talk, No Action |
chimpymustgo |
Mar-17-09 01:27 PM |
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Great insights by Spitzer |
slay |
Mar-17-09 02:40 PM |
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K&R ...."It's not the bonuses...." n/t |
slipslidingaway |
Mar-17-09 02:45 PM |
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As I have been saying AIG was always a 'passthrough' for govt taxpayer $$ .... |
Blackhatjack |
Mar-17-09 02:46 PM |
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Exactly! |
DemReadingDU |
Mar-17-09 03:16 PM |
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AIG ,CIA, and BCCI |
Jambalaya |
Mar-17-09 03:25 PM |
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Ira Sorkins' sons |
suegeo |
Mar-17-09 07:13 PM |
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Thank You! |
Jambalaya |
Mar-17-09 10:50 PM |
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Bet your ass that the REAL crooks have 3-4 layers of indirection.... |
Junkdrawer |
Mar-17-09 04:21 PM |
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AIG Reinsurance scam |
Jambalaya |
Mar-18-09 12:41 AM |
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Link to Komisar Scoop |
Jambalaya |
Mar-18-09 12:45 AM |
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Ding ding |
malaise |
Mar-17-09 02:47 PM |
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Why do we keep "bailing out" these criminals? Is this change we can believe in? |
Mr. Hyde |
Mar-17-09 02:50 PM |
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There will be a tipping point |
TornadoTN |
Mar-17-09 05:37 PM |
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I even heard people talking about it on the Los Angeles Metro |
JDPriestly |
Mar-17-09 09:54 PM |
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My next door neighbor never talks to me about politics |
truedelphi |
Mar-18-09 02:14 AM |
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It's a common theme - and it's a shame too |
TornadoTN |
Mar-18-09 07:26 AM |
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Or like he has a choice-we all do |
Bluenorthwest |
Mar-18-09 09:23 AM |
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Don't get me started on the approach/justification to inequality for |
truedelphi |
Mar-18-09 01:39 PM |
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I know - it really doesn't add up. Here is Pres. Obama coming out and |
truedelphi |
Mar-18-09 01:36 PM |
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Give Spitzer a boost by digging the Slate article |
Kaleko |
Mar-17-09 03:00 PM |
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Spitzer gets his moment- he had to go-the man who knew too much |
katty |
Mar-17-09 03:15 PM |
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too bad he managed to undo his reputation of right/wrong |
tomm2thumbs |
Mar-17-09 03:19 PM |
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Big K & R !!! |
WillyT |
Mar-17-09 03:35 PM |
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Greg Palast had the Spitzer story a long time ago |
Flagrante |
Mar-17-09 03:56 PM |
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my question to Spitzer is why didn't he reference AIG & the doomed financial market in his downfall |
Divine Discontent |
Mar-18-09 03:59 AM |
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The bonuses in spite of their obvious unfairness are a distraction |
marias23 |
Mar-17-09 03:58 PM |
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absolutely!!!!!!!! You have it right MARIAS23!! |
flyarm |
Mar-18-09 10:44 AM |
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It appears that Henry Paulson wanted his former employer, |
vssmith |
Mar-17-09 04:38 PM |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Mar-17-09 06:54 PM |
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Can we hang Paulson now? |
aquart |
Mar-17-09 09:55 PM |
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the thousands of these fucked politicians and bankers in on this scam is incredible |
natrat |
Mar-17-09 04:43 PM |
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And Europe is yelling "protectionism".. We bail out their banks and when |
Joanne98 |
Mar-17-09 04:53 PM |
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It is rather annoying. |
Lucky Luciano |
Mar-17-09 05:01 PM |
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What nations in Europe have done that? Did you mean Mexico? Links please |
Better Believe It |
Mar-17-09 07:09 PM |
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K&R n.t |
myrna minx |
Mar-17-09 05:53 PM |
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We are told we owe 80% of AIG |
Politicalboi |
Mar-17-09 06:19 PM |
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Sanctity of the Contract = Zero Tolerance. |
bluesmail |
Mar-17-09 06:34 PM |
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OMG!! Why does this remind me of the Californina "energy crisis"! |
PaulRevere08 |
Mar-17-09 06:57 PM |
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K. Ms pete does it again! k*r n/t |
autorank |
Mar-17-09 07:11 PM |
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"A-I-G was an in-side jo-ob". |
Barack_America |
Mar-17-09 07:37 PM |
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Of course it was an inside job... |
RoccoR5955 |
Mar-17-09 07:53 PM |
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knr |
spanone |
Mar-17-09 08:01 PM |
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Read this as well |
malaise |
Mar-17-09 08:14 PM |
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K&R'd. |
snot |
Mar-17-09 08:14 PM |
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They'll probably be back to actually kill Spitzer now . . .!!!! |
defendandprotect |
Mar-17-09 08:17 PM |
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Yeh, you can bet he's extremely depressed and despondent. A man ready to take his |
bertman |
Mar-17-09 09:41 PM |
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odd how Spitzer's piece isn't getting much play. too bad. |
KittyWampus |
Mar-17-09 10:25 PM |
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the 'bonus outrage' is a distraction, with the msm fanning the flames... |
dysfunctional press |
Mar-17-09 10:52 PM |
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Same old suspects_Chris Dodd on Mary L. Schapiro |
sattahipdeep |
Mar-17-09 10:53 PM |
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What would make me feel better about it all. |
Vic Meyers |
Mar-17-09 10:57 PM |
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'Failure to answer these questions will feed the populist rage that is metastasizing very quickly.' |
seafan |
Mar-17-09 11:11 PM |
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Great questions. |
go west young man |
Mar-18-09 09:59 AM |
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Hello, Did you ever think the USA has had a Coup |
Stinger2 |
Mar-17-09 11:29 PM |
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Geithner has been exposed and the Obama administration better do something about it! |
democracy1st |
Mar-18-09 02:02 AM |
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How many of us here on DU were screaming this truth last fall? |
earth mom |
Mar-18-09 02:20 AM |
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Swear to God! A whole lot of people could smell this sh*t from a mile away. |
chimpymustgo |
Mar-18-09 08:11 AM |
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Mar-18-09 01:28 PM |
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The-poweres-that-be knew what they were doing when they |
Chimichurri |
Mar-18-09 07:38 AM |
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116th recommend. |
mmonk |
Mar-18-09 07:39 AM |
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The only mistake in the article: There WAS in fact a "reason" and "explanation." |
Atman |
Mar-18-09 07:51 AM |
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Oh, we know Spitzer |
mdmc |
Mar-18-09 08:12 AM |
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Interesting article from 2004 involving AIG... |
unapatriciated |
Mar-18-09 09:31 AM |
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Figures. This is why I had no illusions that a Dem majority would change much |
AllyCat |
Mar-18-09 10:07 AM |
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WSJ: Citi's Chief Economist Leaves for Treasury Post |
flyarm |
Mar-18-09 10:37 AM |
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yep. |
barbtries |
Mar-18-09 11:26 AM |
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AIG scam is tip of the iceberg. Obama's doing nothing. n/t |
antimatter98 |
Mar-18-09 10:52 AM |
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It seems it is ALL a scam. We're just paying for it. |
chimpymustgo |
Mar-18-09 10:57 AM |
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Oh and our kids and our kids kids will be paying for it!! This will be generational!! |
flyarm |
Mar-18-09 12:06 PM |
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Marking for later read |
underpants |
Mar-18-09 11:30 AM |
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Kicked to keep Cuomo safe and out of trouble |
sixmile |
Mar-18-09 12:30 PM |
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kick |
mdmc |
Mar-18-09 06:28 PM |
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....n/t |
slipslidingaway |
Mar-19-09 08:27 PM |
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kick |
Quantess |
Mar-19-09 10:40 PM |
#130 |