chrisa
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Fri Mar-13-09 11:15 AM
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Why do people want the government to completely control their lives?
I assume everybody who wants to ban guns is also in favor of expanding the Patriot Act? You know, those scary terrorists MIGHT attack us. That's reason enough to take parts out of the Constitution that might make us safer.
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| -A glance at US mass shootings in recent years |
Rider Haggard |
Mar-13-09 01:36 AM |
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and they're coming more often now... |
villager |
Mar-13-09 01:39 AM |
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You noticed that too? |
nadinbrzezinski |
Mar-13-09 01:41 AM |
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They have become almost fashionable. |
Tim01 |
Mar-13-09 11:52 AM |
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For some, wearing safety pins is fashionable too. |
Deja Q |
Mar-14-09 07:53 AM |
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Given that the bullies and bastards are mostly the ones in charge.. |
Fumesucker |
Mar-15-09 11:03 AM |
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A plea for common sense? |
Hanse |
Mar-13-09 01:41 AM |
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We don't have to piss on the Constitution to enforce common sense rules |
Believing Is Art |
Mar-13-09 01:59 AM |
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*cough*...a few???!!! |
brentspeak |
Mar-13-09 02:03 AM |
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All incredibly rare. |
Hanse |
Mar-13-09 02:05 AM |
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. |
brentspeak |
Mar-13-09 02:06 AM |
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Then pray tell, why are so many worried about their right to carry for self defense? |
Rider Haggard |
Mar-13-09 02:08 AM |
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I don't believe there is a right to carry. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Mar-13-09 02:12 AM |
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Oh, they're stupid cowards too. |
Hanse |
Mar-13-09 02:18 AM |
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That's hyperbole |
Believing Is Art |
Mar-13-09 02:12 AM |
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You know my problem with people like you |
nadinbrzezinski |
Mar-13-09 02:23 AM |
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That we're functionally literate? |
Hanse |
Mar-13-09 02:36 AM |
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I have read it and you are wrong |
nadinbrzezinski |
Mar-13-09 02:47 AM |
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The Supreme Court disagrees. |
Hanse |
Mar-13-09 02:54 AM |
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Yeah the supreme court disagrees... whatever |
nadinbrzezinski |
Mar-13-09 03:29 AM |
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An AR-15 is just fine for hunting small creatures... |
Irreverend IX |
Mar-13-09 11:44 AM |
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Are You Claiming... |
DrCory |
Mar-13-09 06:34 PM |
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There are decisions one court has made that have been overturned |
nadinbrzezinski |
Mar-13-09 06:38 PM |
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What Makes You Think... |
DrCory |
Mar-14-09 06:21 AM |
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Bush v. Gore.. |
Fumesucker |
Mar-15-09 11:06 AM |
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"fully automatic weapons meant for hunting other humans, read assault rifles, machine guns" |
billyoc |
Mar-13-09 02:51 AM |
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No they are not and you know better |
nadinbrzezinski |
Mar-13-09 03:26 AM |
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the '94 AWB did not affect full-auto weapons ... it only banned certain semi-auto's |
FudaFuda |
Mar-13-09 12:03 PM |
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They've been illegal since the '30s. |
billyoc |
Mar-13-09 01:08 PM |
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You're pretty vocal about a subject you know absolutely nothing about. |
tangent90 |
Mar-13-09 02:45 PM |
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Yeah you are right, a subject I actually know quite a bit about |
nadinbrzezinski |
Mar-13-09 06:25 PM |
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You don't even know the difference between an "automatic" and an "assault" |
tangent90 |
Mar-13-09 06:39 PM |
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Yes I do.. next |
nadinbrzezinski |
Mar-13-09 06:49 PM |
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Yeah, you're a real expert. How about staying the fuck out of my Constitutional rights? |
tangent90 |
Mar-13-09 06:52 PM |
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Slowly once again |
nadinbrzezinski |
Mar-13-09 07:09 PM |
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"chiefly readying it"??????? What exactly are you smoking? |
tangent90 |
Mar-13-09 07:43 PM |
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Factoid most gun enthusiasts confuse gun control with gun |
nadinbrzezinski |
Mar-13-09 07:53 PM |
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Any "Round" |
DrCory |
Mar-14-09 06:30 AM |
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Actually, .22 caliber rounds (5.56 included) are prohibited from use on deer in many states. |
Edweird |
Mar-15-09 05:46 PM |
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Quite Often Said And Contested... |
DrCory |
Mar-14-09 07:41 AM |
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Automatic weapons are very highly regulated and were not covered under the AWB. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Mar-13-09 04:32 PM |
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The most popular civilian target rifles and defensive carbines in U.S. homes |
benEzra |
Mar-13-09 08:09 AM |
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I absolutely agree with these distinctions, Nadin... |
villager |
Mar-13-09 11:10 AM |
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"NRA programming"? Nope. It's critical thinking, logic, and experience. Reading comprehension helps, |
Edweird |
Mar-13-09 01:41 PM |
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Like I said: NRA Programming.... |
villager |
Mar-13-09 02:00 PM |
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Like I said: reading comprehension. |
Edweird |
Mar-13-09 02:09 PM |
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Why not speak --specifically -- to Nadin's points, as I was |
villager |
Mar-13-09 02:44 PM |
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Sure, I'll break it down slowly for you. |
Edweird |
Mar-13-09 03:10 PM |
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Irrelevant that America has a precedent of gun control laws? |
villager |
Mar-13-09 03:13 PM |
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I was referring to her historical gun ownership claim |
Edweird |
Mar-13-09 03:18 PM |
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You see? We stick to topic, and actual civility threatens to break out between us! |
villager |
Mar-13-09 03:32 PM |
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The lack of civility about this and certain other issues really bothers me. |
Edweird |
Mar-13-09 04:07 PM |
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"in today's terms, the armed forces." Since when? Just because you WISH it |
Edweird |
Mar-13-09 01:32 PM |
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It sounds like you think the line was drawn correctly in 1934, with the National Firearms Act |
slackmaster |
Mar-13-09 03:08 PM |
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Westroads Mall was included |
hfojvt |
Mar-13-09 03:27 AM |
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to answer my own question about the gap |
hfojvt |
Mar-13-09 03:41 AM |
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then there was going postal |
hfojvt |
Mar-13-09 04:18 AM |
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Thanks for listing those other ones |
brentspeak |
Mar-13-09 05:14 PM |
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Exactly. nt |
anonymous171 |
Mar-13-09 01:32 PM |
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Thom Hartmann made an interesting observation |
lapfog_1 |
Mar-13-09 01:45 AM |
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They are on the drugs because they're nuts. Did they do it because they are nuts or due to the drug? |
Freddie Stubbs |
Mar-13-09 02:02 PM |
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What a shame. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Mar-13-09 01:47 AM |
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Why do we still let people have those things? |
greenkal |
Mar-13-09 02:09 AM |
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The Constitution I believe. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Mar-13-09 02:10 AM |
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It would likely mean repealing the 2nd Amendment, a difficult proposition at best. |
Selatius |
Mar-13-09 02:43 AM |
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Difficult, more like impossible |
LiberalPersona |
Mar-13-09 03:25 AM |
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That's why I mentioned the US disintegrating like the USSR. |
Selatius |
Mar-13-09 03:35 AM |
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Because we live in a country with a constitution |
HarukaTheTrophyWife |
Mar-13-09 08:17 AM |
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lol |
chrisa |
Mar-13-09 11:19 AM |
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you're welcome to try |
Dukkha |
Mar-13-09 12:07 PM |
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Thanks for confirming they're violent thugs! |
greenkal |
Mar-13-09 01:16 PM |
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People who have no problem with police barging into everyone's house |
tangent90 |
Mar-13-09 02:47 PM |
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I know. The Police are always trustworthy, unless they are brutalizing young people or minorities. |
anonymous171 |
Mar-13-09 01:36 PM |
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We have a thing called the Fourth Amendment that prohibits police from going door to door |
slackmaster |
Mar-13-09 03:16 PM |
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Because they're SOCIALLY ACCEPTABLE (Who is this "we" crap?) |
Tejas |
Mar-15-09 11:28 AM |
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I'm sure some would think confiscating every gun in the country would be common sense. |
Incitatus |
Mar-13-09 02:13 AM |
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There appears to have been a lull of 22 years from 1976 to 1998. |
Lone_Star_Dem |
Mar-13-09 03:05 AM |
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Here's a partial list of workplace shootings dating back to 1986 |
Art_from_Ark |
Mar-13-09 03:38 AM |
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What "common sense" would you advocate? |
benEzra |
Mar-13-09 08:12 AM |
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I really don't care what type of gun anyone owns |
Believing Is Art |
Mar-13-09 06:37 PM |
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OMG! Ban guns! |
chrisa |
Mar-13-09 11:15 AM |
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I seriously want to know the political leanings of most of these people... |
LeftinOH |
Mar-13-09 12:01 PM |
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I think politics has little to do with it |
Believing Is Art |
Mar-13-09 02:26 PM |
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Interestingly, nearly all of those were in 'gun-free-zones' |
tangent90 |
Mar-13-09 12:05 PM |
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1966 is recent now? |
Zywiec |
Mar-13-09 01:19 PM |
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USA Number One! |
Arugula Latte |
Mar-13-09 01:23 PM |
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The kid in Germany yesterday is giving us a run for the title. |
Noodleboy13 |
Mar-13-09 02:22 PM |
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These things happen all over the world, and always have |
FudaFuda |
Mar-13-09 02:28 PM |
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In most developed countries these types of sprees are shockingly rare. |
Arugula Latte |
Mar-13-09 02:47 PM |
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Since a European-style killing spree usually kills millions, I'll take that label. n/t |
FudaFuda |
Mar-13-09 02:50 PM |
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They sure seem to be happening a lot for something that is shockingly rare |
slackmaster |
Mar-13-09 03:24 PM |
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With the exception of Germany, most countries you cite have one of these or so in a long time period |
Arugula Latte |
Mar-14-09 12:22 PM |
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The USA also has a lot more people than any of those countries |
slackmaster |
Mar-15-09 10:59 AM |
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US population is over 300 million |
Bluenorthwest |
Mar-15-09 11:33 AM |
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The Port Authur killings led to MASSIVE gun control laws in Australia |
Number23 |
Mar-13-09 07:48 PM |
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I've only been keeping track on the NRA page ... |
ColbertWatcher |
Mar-13-09 02:26 PM |
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Simple Qs: How many guns are enough for one person to own? Are some guns too deadly to own? |
Blackhatjack |
Mar-13-09 02:32 PM |
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How many speeches are enough for one person to give? Is some speech too deadly |
tangent90 |
Mar-13-09 02:41 PM |
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How Ridiculous? Free Speech Doesn't Kill People... Guns Do ... |
Blackhatjack |
Mar-13-09 03:41 PM |
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Slackmaster answered your question, and I agree with slackmaster. |
FudaFuda |
Mar-13-09 03:58 PM |
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"if he owned 500 guns and only 10,000 rounds of ammo, I might advise him that he needs more ammo." |
Blackhatjack |
Mar-13-09 09:06 PM |
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heck yeah. that's only 20 rds per firearm. that'd be pretty stupid. |
FudaFuda |
Mar-13-09 09:33 PM |
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I keep forgetting about the epidemic of guns leaping from their holsters and |
tangent90 |
Mar-13-09 06:50 PM |
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It's apparent from your attempt to conflate 2nd Amend rights with 1st Amend rights you're NRA taught |
Blackhatjack |
Mar-13-09 08:57 PM |
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A strict limit on types of guns was set in 1934 |
slackmaster |
Mar-13-09 03:11 PM |
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"too deadly"? |
Tejas |
Mar-15-09 11:50 AM |
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I kept wondering what in the hell some people ... |
butterfly77 |
Mar-13-09 02:37 PM |
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They left out a woman walked into a Kmart and shot a bunch of people in St. Johns, Indiana |
NNN0LHI |
Mar-13-09 02:39 PM |
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well REGULATED Militia |
fascisthunter |
Mar-13-09 02:47 PM |
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A militia is a group of people |
slackmaster |
Mar-13-09 03:10 PM |
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The break between 2001 and 2005 |
treestar |
Mar-13-09 03:19 PM |
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I think the UTA tower shooting doesn't belong on the list either |
slackmaster |
Mar-13-09 03:26 PM |
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This is a very old phenomenon. It's the basis for the word "Amok." |
mainer |
Mar-14-09 12:26 PM |
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15 students killed in Germany last week. Gunman shot himself. |
WillieW |
Mar-15-09 11:37 AM |
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Don't Assault Rifles make America Safer, and a more polite society? |
TWiley |
Mar-15-09 11:42 AM |
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Scariest guns |
Tejas |
Mar-15-09 11:53 AM |
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