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HarukaTheTrophyWife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-13-09 08:17 AM
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34. Because we live in a country with a constitution
And we shouldn't step on what's left of it.
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  -A glance at US mass shootings in recent years Rider Haggard  Mar-13-09 01:36 AM   #0 
  - and they're coming more often now...  villager   Mar-13-09 01:39 AM   #1 
  - You noticed that too?  nadinbrzezinski   Mar-13-09 01:41 AM   #2 
     - They have become almost fashionable.  Tim01   Mar-13-09 11:52 AM   #39 
        - For some, wearing safety pins is fashionable too.  Deja Q   Mar-14-09 07:53 AM   #102 
           - Given that the bullies and bastards are mostly the ones in charge..  Fumesucker   Mar-15-09 11:03 AM   #106 
  - A plea for common sense?  Hanse   Mar-13-09 01:41 AM   #3 
  - We don't have to piss on the Constitution to enforce common sense rules  Believing Is Art   Mar-13-09 01:59 AM   #6 
  - *cough*...a few???!!!  brentspeak   Mar-13-09 02:03 AM   #7 
  - All incredibly rare.  Hanse   Mar-13-09 02:05 AM   #8 
  - .  brentspeak   Mar-13-09 02:06 AM   #9 
  - Then pray tell, why are so many worried about their right to carry for self defense?  Rider Haggard   Mar-13-09 02:08 AM   #10 
  - I don't believe there is a right to carry.  Fire_Medic_Dave   Mar-13-09 02:12 AM   #13 
  - Oh, they're stupid cowards too.  Hanse   Mar-13-09 02:18 AM   #16 
  - That's hyperbole  Believing Is Art   Mar-13-09 02:12 AM   #14 
  - You know my problem with people like you  nadinbrzezinski   Mar-13-09 02:23 AM   #17 
     - That we're functionally literate?  Hanse   Mar-13-09 02:36 AM   #18 
     - I have read it and you are wrong  nadinbrzezinski   Mar-13-09 02:47 AM   #20 
        - The Supreme Court disagrees.  Hanse   Mar-13-09 02:54 AM   #22 
           - Yeah the supreme court disagrees... whatever  nadinbrzezinski   Mar-13-09 03:29 AM   #27 
              - An AR-15 is just fine for hunting small creatures...  Irreverend IX   Mar-13-09 11:44 AM   #38 
              - Are You Claiming...  DrCory   Mar-13-09 06:34 PM   #85 
                 - There are decisions one court has made that have been overturned  nadinbrzezinski   Mar-13-09 06:38 PM   #87 
                 - What Makes You Think...  DrCory   Mar-14-09 06:21 AM   #99 
                 - Bush v. Gore..  Fumesucker   Mar-15-09 11:06 AM   #107 
     - "fully automatic weapons meant for hunting other humans, read assault rifles, machine guns"  billyoc   Mar-13-09 02:51 AM   #21 
     - No they are not and you know better  nadinbrzezinski   Mar-13-09 03:26 AM   #25 
        - the '94 AWB did not affect full-auto weapons ... it only banned certain semi-auto's  FudaFuda   Mar-13-09 12:03 PM   #41 
        - They've been illegal since the '30s.  billyoc   Mar-13-09 01:08 PM   #44 
        - You're pretty vocal about a subject you know absolutely nothing about.  tangent90   Mar-13-09 02:45 PM   #63 
        - Yeah you are right, a subject I actually know quite a bit about  nadinbrzezinski   Mar-13-09 06:25 PM   #84 
           - You don't even know the difference between an "automatic" and an "assault"  tangent90   Mar-13-09 06:39 PM   #88 
              - Yes I do.. next  nadinbrzezinski   Mar-13-09 06:49 PM   #89 
                 - Yeah, you're a real expert. How about staying the fuck out of my Constitutional rights?  tangent90   Mar-13-09 06:52 PM   #91 
                 - Slowly once again  nadinbrzezinski   Mar-13-09 07:09 PM   #92 
                    - "chiefly readying it"??????? What exactly are you smoking?  tangent90   Mar-13-09 07:43 PM   #93 
                    - Factoid most gun enthusiasts confuse gun control with gun  nadinbrzezinski   Mar-13-09 07:53 PM   #95 
                    - Any "Round"  DrCory   Mar-14-09 06:30 AM   #100 
                    - Actually, .22 caliber rounds (5.56 included) are prohibited from use on deer in many states.  Edweird   Mar-15-09 05:46 PM   #114 
                 - Quite Often Said And Contested...  DrCory   Mar-14-09 07:41 AM   #101 
        - Automatic weapons are very highly regulated and were not covered under the AWB.  Fire_Medic_Dave   Mar-13-09 04:32 PM   #82 
     - The most popular civilian target rifles and defensive carbines in U.S. homes  benEzra   Mar-13-09 08:09 AM   #32 
     - I absolutely agree with these distinctions, Nadin...  villager   Mar-13-09 11:10 AM   #35 
     - "NRA programming"? Nope. It's critical thinking, logic, and experience. Reading comprehension helps,  Edweird   Mar-13-09 01:41 PM   #51 
        - Like I said: NRA Programming....  villager   Mar-13-09 02:00 PM   #52 
           - Like I said: reading comprehension.  Edweird   Mar-13-09 02:09 PM   #54 
              - Why not speak --specifically -- to Nadin's points, as I was  villager   Mar-13-09 02:44 PM   #62 
                 - Sure, I'll break it down slowly for you.  Edweird   Mar-13-09 03:10 PM   #69 
                    - Irrelevant that America has a precedent of gun control laws?  villager   Mar-13-09 03:13 PM   #72 
                       - I was referring to her historical gun ownership claim  Edweird   Mar-13-09 03:18 PM   #74 
                          - You see? We stick to topic, and actual civility threatens to break out between us!  villager   Mar-13-09 03:32 PM   #78 
                             - The lack of civility about this and certain other issues really bothers me.  Edweird   Mar-13-09 04:07 PM   #81 
     - "in today's terms, the armed forces." Since when? Just because you WISH it  Edweird   Mar-13-09 01:32 PM   #48 
     - It sounds like you think the line was drawn correctly in 1934, with the National Firearms Act  slackmaster   Mar-13-09 03:08 PM   #68 
  - Westroads Mall was included  hfojvt   Mar-13-09 03:27 AM   #26 
     - to answer my own question about the gap  hfojvt   Mar-13-09 03:41 AM   #30 
        - then there was going postal  hfojvt   Mar-13-09 04:18 AM   #31 
           - Thanks for listing those other ones  brentspeak   Mar-13-09 05:14 PM   #83 
  - Exactly. nt  anonymous171   Mar-13-09 01:32 PM   #49 
  - Thom Hartmann made an interesting observation  lapfog_1   Mar-13-09 01:45 AM   #4 
  - They are on the drugs because they're nuts. Did they do it because they are nuts or due to the drug?  Freddie Stubbs   Mar-13-09 02:02 PM   #53 
  - What a shame.  Fire_Medic_Dave   Mar-13-09 01:47 AM   #5 
  - Why do we still let people have those things?  greenkal   Mar-13-09 02:09 AM   #11 
  - The Constitution I believe.  Fire_Medic_Dave   Mar-13-09 02:10 AM   #12 
  - It would likely mean repealing the 2nd Amendment, a difficult proposition at best.  Selatius   Mar-13-09 02:43 AM   #19 
  - Difficult, more like impossible  LiberalPersona   Mar-13-09 03:25 AM   #24 
     - That's why I mentioned the US disintegrating like the USSR.  Selatius   Mar-13-09 03:35 AM   #28 
  - Because we live in a country with a constitution  HarukaTheTrophyWife   Mar-13-09 08:17 AM   #34 
  - lol  chrisa   Mar-13-09 11:19 AM   #37 
  - you're welcome to try  Dukkha   Mar-13-09 12:07 PM   #43 
  - Thanks for confirming they're violent thugs!  greenkal   Mar-13-09 01:16 PM   #45 
     - People who have no problem with police barging into everyone's house  tangent90   Mar-13-09 02:47 PM   #65 
  - I know. The Police are always trustworthy, unless they are brutalizing young people or minorities.  anonymous171   Mar-13-09 01:36 PM   #50 
  - We have a thing called the Fourth Amendment that prohibits police from going door to door  slackmaster   Mar-13-09 03:16 PM   #73 
  - Because they're SOCIALLY ACCEPTABLE (Who is this "we" crap?)  Tejas   Mar-15-09 11:28 AM   #108 
  - I'm sure some would think confiscating every gun in the country would be common sense.  Incitatus   Mar-13-09 02:13 AM   #15 
  - There appears to have been a lull of 22 years from 1976 to 1998.  Lone_Star_Dem   Mar-13-09 03:05 AM   #23 
  - Here's a partial list of workplace shootings dating back to 1986  Art_from_Ark   Mar-13-09 03:38 AM   #29 
  - What "common sense" would you advocate?  benEzra   Mar-13-09 08:12 AM   #33 
  - I really don't care what type of gun anyone owns  Believing Is Art   Mar-13-09 06:37 PM   #86 
  - OMG! Ban guns!  chrisa   Mar-13-09 11:15 AM   #36 
  - I seriously want to know the political leanings of most of these people...  LeftinOH   Mar-13-09 12:01 PM   #40 
  - I think politics has little to do with it  Believing Is Art   Mar-13-09 02:26 PM   # 
  - Interestingly, nearly all of those were in 'gun-free-zones'  tangent90   Mar-13-09 12:05 PM   #42 
  - 1966 is recent now?  Zywiec   Mar-13-09 01:19 PM   #46 
  - USA Number One!  Arugula Latte   Mar-13-09 01:23 PM   #47 
  - The kid in Germany yesterday is giving us a run for the title.  Noodleboy13   Mar-13-09 02:22 PM   #55 
  - These things happen all over the world, and always have  FudaFuda   Mar-13-09 02:28 PM   #57 
     - In most developed countries these types of sprees are shockingly rare.  Arugula Latte   Mar-13-09 02:47 PM   #64 
     - Since a European-style killing spree usually kills millions, I'll take that label. n/t  FudaFuda   Mar-13-09 02:50 PM   #67 
     - They sure seem to be happening a lot for something that is shockingly rare  slackmaster   Mar-13-09 03:24 PM   #76 
        - With the exception of Germany, most countries you cite have one of these or so in a long time period  Arugula Latte   Mar-14-09 12:22 PM   #103 
           - The USA also has a lot more people than any of those countries  slackmaster   Mar-15-09 10:59 AM   #105 
           - US population is over 300 million  Bluenorthwest   Mar-15-09 11:33 AM   #109 
     - The Port Authur killings led to MASSIVE gun control laws in Australia  Number23   Mar-13-09 07:48 PM   #94 
  - I've only been keeping track on the NRA page ...  ColbertWatcher   Mar-13-09 02:26 PM   #56 
  - Simple Qs: How many guns are enough for one person to own? Are some guns too deadly to own?  Blackhatjack   Mar-13-09 02:32 PM   #58 
  - How many speeches are enough for one person to give? Is some speech too deadly  tangent90   Mar-13-09 02:41 PM   #61 
  - How Ridiculous? Free Speech Doesn't Kill People... Guns Do ...  Blackhatjack   Mar-13-09 03:41 PM   #79 
     - Slackmaster answered your question, and I agree with slackmaster.  FudaFuda   Mar-13-09 03:58 PM   #80 
     - "if he owned 500 guns and only 10,000 rounds of ammo, I might advise him that he needs more ammo."  Blackhatjack   Mar-13-09 09:06 PM   #97 
        - heck yeah. that's only 20 rds per firearm. that'd be pretty stupid.  FudaFuda   Mar-13-09 09:33 PM   #98 
     - I keep forgetting about the epidemic of guns leaping from their holsters and  tangent90   Mar-13-09 06:50 PM   #90 
        - It's apparent from your attempt to conflate 2nd Amend rights with 1st Amend rights you're NRA taught  Blackhatjack   Mar-13-09 08:57 PM   #96 
  - A strict limit on types of guns was set in 1934  slackmaster   Mar-13-09 03:11 PM   #71 
  - "too deadly"?  Tejas   Mar-15-09 11:50 AM   #112 
  - I kept wondering what in the hell some people ...  butterfly77   Mar-13-09 02:37 PM   #59 
  - They left out a woman walked into a Kmart and shot a bunch of people in St. Johns, Indiana  NNN0LHI   Mar-13-09 02:39 PM   #60 
  - well REGULATED Militia  fascisthunter   Mar-13-09 02:47 PM   #66 
  - A militia is a group of people  slackmaster   Mar-13-09 03:10 PM   #70 
  - The break between 2001 and 2005  treestar   Mar-13-09 03:19 PM   #75 
  - I think the UTA tower shooting doesn't belong on the list either  slackmaster   Mar-13-09 03:26 PM   #77 
  - This is a very old phenomenon. It's the basis for the word "Amok."  mainer   Mar-14-09 12:26 PM   #104 
  - 15 students killed in Germany last week. Gunman shot himself.  WillieW   Mar-15-09 11:37 AM   #110 
  - Don't Assault Rifles make America Safer, and a more polite society?  TWiley   Mar-15-09 11:42 AM   #111 
     - Scariest guns  Tejas   Mar-15-09 11:53 AM   #113 
 

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