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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-11-09 10:26 PM
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26. So you would approach the district
and insist on objectives that address kids k-3 because it also affects what you're able to achieve in your classroom.
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  -just a few things regarding education. ulysses  Mar-11-09 09:57 PM   #0 
  - And progress can be measured.  sandnsea   Mar-11-09 09:58 PM   #1 
  - It can be measured, but constantly measuring it doesn't make it happen  Lydia Leftcoast   Mar-11-09 10:01 PM   #2 
  - If you don't state the progress you need  sandnsea   Mar-11-09 10:07 PM   #6 
     - my parents do know. it's in the kids' IEPs.  ulysses   Mar-11-09 10:10 PM   #8 
     - All kids don't get an IEP  sandnsea   Mar-11-09 10:18 PM   #13 
     - no distortion.  ulysses   Mar-11-09 10:19 PM   #15 
        - So the parent is responsible to measure progress  sandnsea   Mar-11-09 10:21 PM   #18 
           - wtf?  ulysses   Mar-11-09 10:24 PM   #23 
              - Right. And if they don't do that  sandnsea   Mar-11-09 10:27 PM   #28 
                 - um, no.  ulysses   Mar-11-09 10:30 PM   #31 
                    - um, yes.  sandnsea   Mar-11-09 10:32 PM   #35 
                       - you forgot to answer the question.  ulysses   Mar-11-09 10:34 PM   #37 
     - What's an IEP  Mind_your_head   Mar-11-09 11:32 PM   #47 
        - Individualized Education Plan  mitchum   Mar-12-09 08:17 AM   #65 
     - By fucking visiting the fucking classroom.  Luminous Animal   Mar-12-09 01:29 AM   #56 
  - not going to deny that.  ulysses   Mar-11-09 10:01 PM   #3 
  - What standard would you set?  sandnsea   Mar-11-09 10:06 PM   #5 
  - my standard: growth according to each child's baseline, disability,  ulysses   Mar-11-09 10:17 PM   #12 
     - Great. Those are your objectives.  sandnsea   Mar-11-09 10:20 PM   #16 
        - LOL!  ulysses   Mar-11-09 10:21 PM   #19 
           - That's the proposal  sandnsea   Mar-11-09 10:23 PM   #22 
              - whose proposal?  ulysses   Mar-11-09 10:24 PM   #24 
                 - The Merit Pay proposal  sandnsea   Mar-11-09 10:29 PM   #30 
                    - *whose* merit pay proposal?  ulysses   Mar-11-09 10:32 PM   #34 
                       - Posted previously  sandnsea   Mar-11-09 10:33 PM   #36 
                          - ah, ok. but I'm not in Denver.  ulysses   Mar-11-09 10:35 PM   #38 
                             - This is the model for the proposal  sandnsea   Mar-11-09 10:46 PM   #43 
                                - my arguing with you on a website has fuck-all to do with what happens in a classroom.  ulysses   Mar-11-09 10:49 PM   #45 
  - that's the thing. In my district, due to weak k-3, the battle is lost before they  roguevalley   Mar-11-09 10:22 PM   #20 
  - So you would approach the district  sandnsea   Mar-11-09 10:26 PM   #26 
     - not in my district. they don't have teachers anywhere near policy.  roguevalley   Mar-12-09 02:07 PM   #69 
  - What about the child who comes to you way ahead?  sense   Mar-12-09 12:52 AM   #55 
     - I'm a special education teacher.  ulysses   Mar-12-09 05:20 PM   #72 
  - But on an individual basis, not collectively.  leftyclimber   Mar-11-09 10:14 PM   #10 
  - How would you measure it?  roody   Mar-11-09 10:28 PM   #29 
     - My kids?  sandnsea   Mar-11-09 10:31 PM   #33 
        - That's great. Since you are so involved with your children,  roody   Mar-11-09 11:40 PM   #49 
           - Sometimes yes, sometimes no  sandnsea   Mar-12-09 12:10 AM   #53 
  - Every time kids don't learn, teachers get blamed.....  Sarah Ibarruri   Mar-11-09 10:02 PM   #4 
  - Thank you.  tnlefty   Mar-11-09 10:08 PM   #7 
  - Intelligence and Howard Gardner  Ichingcarpenter   Mar-11-09 10:12 PM   #9 
  - Sorry, there is no music on the test. Doesn't count.  roody   Mar-11-09 10:30 PM   #32 
     - There is in the music department  sandnsea   Mar-11-09 10:47 PM   #44 
        - The ONLY thing that counts as achievement in school today is  roody   Mar-11-09 11:36 PM   #48 
           - Well that IS NOT the subject  sandnsea   Mar-12-09 12:07 AM   #52 
              - I work at a program improvement school and test scores are the  roody   Mar-12-09 08:48 AM   #68 
  - Ehhh.. they aren't "for profit businesses" but on the rest of this you are wrong..  ddeclue   Mar-11-09 10:15 PM   #11 
  - I said that a *child* is not a product, not that there is *no* product.  ulysses   Mar-11-09 10:27 PM   #27 
  - They are INDEED your customer...sorry you don't understand that point  ddeclue   Mar-11-09 10:45 PM   #42 
     - Another clueless education expert.  EFerrari   Mar-12-09 12:42 AM   #54 
     - The customer is always right and how may I provide you good sevice today?  Mithreal   Mar-12-09 01:57 AM   #57 
     - That is unfortunately true. It is the main reason for grade inflation  eridani   Mar-12-09 02:58 AM   #59 
  - But education isn't "bought".  wickerwoman   Mar-11-09 10:52 PM   #46 
     - Amen to that, wickewoman!  southerncrone   Mar-12-09 10:28 PM   #73 
  - And the taxpayers are not my employers  proud2BlibKansan   Mar-11-09 10:18 PM   #14 
  - If you work for a public school they most certainly are.  ddeclue   Mar-11-09 10:21 PM   #17 
  - No they aren't  proud2BlibKansan   Mar-11-09 10:23 PM   #21 
  - Ultimately the person who employs you is the TAXPAYER..  ddeclue   Mar-11-09 10:36 PM   #39 
     - The taxpayer employs the school district  proud2BlibKansan   Mar-12-09 06:34 AM   #62 
  - wrong.  ulysses   Mar-11-09 10:25 PM   #25 
     - PUBLIC SCHOOL EMPLOYEES WORK FOR THE TAXPAYER  ddeclue   Mar-11-09 10:40 PM   #41 
  - Wow. How Can You Be A Teacher And Be That Dumb?  mudesi   Mar-12-09 04:08 PM   #71 
  - Our tests don't do an educational matrix for cooperative education  Ichingcarpenter   Mar-11-09 10:39 PM   #40 
  - Good comments nt  Mithreal   Mar-12-09 02:04 AM   #58 
  - another thing? It's the single most important thing in this country, society,  sohndrsmith   Mar-11-09 11:45 PM   #50 
  - With Standardize tests society goals are geared on neo-mat- a -tron existence  Ichingcarpenter   Mar-12-09 12:01 AM   #51 
  - Merit Pay  Project Grudge   Mar-12-09 03:49 AM   #60 
  - Merit pay makes no sense because it targets the wrong element.  EFerrari   Mar-12-09 04:27 AM   #61 
  - It seems to me if teachers  Midlodemocrat   Mar-12-09 06:43 AM   #63 
  - I view it the other way round - things are fucked up in part  ulysses   Mar-12-09 04:03 PM   #70 
  - I think of my students as clients...  mitchum   Mar-12-09 08:12 AM   #64 
  - No, children are like trees  The2ndWheel   Mar-12-09 08:34 AM   #66 
  - Schools have no money  Bluenorthwest   Mar-12-09 08:36 AM   #67 
 

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