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"Why do you think elephants carry the bones of other deceased elephants around for days?"
I don't know. Because they're sad?
"If this so called "God Helmet" using electro magnetic fields to stimulate the brain has produced an apparent tangible result, doesn't it seem logical, the Earth's Magnetic Field could be doing the same, on a more subtle level and yet macro scale?"
No. The earth's magnetic field is weak and uniform on the scale of the human brain. The earth's magnetic field has no effect on the human brain, which can be tested using a person exposed to the earth's magnetic field, and a person who's protected from the earth's magnetic field via a Faraday cage. Which, ironically, could be a tinfoil hat.
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| -Belief and the brain's 'God spot' |
babsbunny |
Mar-10-09 04:00 PM |
#0 |
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Mebbe this explains why people have faith in the markets |
leftstreet |
Mar-10-09 04:03 PM |
#1 |
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The existence of that spot is more proof of an intelligent creator |
GoesTo11 |
Mar-10-09 04:03 PM |
#2 |
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Leave it to the religious to take scientific research |
stopbush |
Mar-10-09 04:13 PM |
#3 |
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oh for pete's sake.... |
mike_c |
Mar-10-09 04:18 PM |
#4 |
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The article seems to suggest it's a side effect of the capacity to make moral judgements. |
Commie Pinko Dirtbag |
Mar-10-09 04:27 PM |
#8 |
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oh I agree completely... |
mike_c |
Mar-10-09 07:12 PM |
#70 |
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The existence of that spot is more proof man is compelled to create a creator |
Oregone |
Mar-10-09 04:22 PM |
#5 |
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Absolutely! |
tavalon |
Mar-11-09 05:00 AM |
#116 |
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! |
SammyWinstonJack |
Mar-11-09 10:46 AM |
#131 |
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That's like saying our susceptibility to electric shocks is proof of the existence of Zeus. -nt |
Commie Pinko Dirtbag |
Mar-10-09 04:24 PM |
#6 |
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You understand perfectly! |
tavalon |
Mar-11-09 05:00 AM |
#117 |
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You've got to be fucking kidding me. |
LeftyMom |
Mar-10-09 04:57 PM |
#17 |
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And a sense of humor would be evidence of a silly creator |
GoesTo11 |
Mar-10-09 05:02 PM |
#21 |
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Hey, I like trickster gods. |
damntexdem |
Mar-10-09 05:43 PM |
#47 |
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No, it's more like an explanation |
FiveGoodMen |
Mar-10-09 05:07 PM |
#23 |
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lol |
fascisthunter |
Mar-10-09 05:19 PM |
#37 |
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No proof of God, no proof of no God. |
damntexdem |
Mar-10-09 05:42 PM |
#43 |
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What if MRI imaging yielded more accurate pictures |
GoesTo11 |
Mar-10-09 05:53 PM |
#49 |
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Perhaps it is |
H2O Man |
Mar-10-09 06:33 PM |
#56 |
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... |
omega minimo |
Mar-10-09 09:12 PM |
#91 |
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.... |
Donnachaidh |
Mar-10-09 07:06 PM |
#66 |
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No, it's proof that God is an invention of our own minds. |
Odin2005 |
Mar-11-09 10:30 AM |
#128 |
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Please tell me this is sarcasim |
NeedleCast |
Mar-11-09 03:10 PM |
#183 |
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I wonder if fluctuations in the Earth's Magnetic Field could have or has had an effect |
Uncle Joe |
Mar-10-09 04:25 PM |
#7 |
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Either the Magnetic field |
DearAbby |
Mar-10-09 04:30 PM |
#9 |
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Yes but I'm looking for a direct historical religious correlation, according to this paragraph, |
Uncle Joe |
Mar-10-09 04:50 PM |
#13 |
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there will be no "direct historical religious correlation" b/c we all have souls, not located in the |
omega minimo |
Mar-10-09 04:59 PM |
#18 |
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"we all have souls, not located in the brain" |
FiveGoodMen |
Mar-10-09 05:08 PM |
#24 |
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What is asserted without proof may be dismissed without proof. |
stopbush |
Mar-10-09 05:16 PM |
#30 |
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What evidence do you have that consciousness is limited to the brain? |
omega minimo |
Mar-10-09 09:11 PM |
#90 |
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There's no evidence that it isn't. |
stopbush |
Mar-10-09 11:45 PM |
#94 |
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There's plenty of evidence, based on experience. except someone convinced to ignore it, will deny it |
omega minimo |
Mar-11-09 12:48 AM |
#99 |
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Plenty of evidence? Great. |
Hanse |
Mar-11-09 12:50 AM |
#102 |
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Already did |
omega minimo |
Mar-11-09 12:52 AM |
#104 |
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Cite it again. |
Hanse |
Mar-11-09 12:54 AM |
#107 |
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What part of discussion killer don't you comprehend? |
omega minimo |
Mar-11-09 12:57 AM |
#109 |
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The part where you support your claim with evidence. |
Hanse |
Mar-11-09 01:00 AM |
#110 |
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Deleted sub-thread |
Name removed |
Mar-11-09 01:18 AM |
#112 |
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No, there isn't any evidence. There is hearsay, opinion and wishful thinking. |
stopbush |
Mar-11-09 10:27 AM |
#127 |
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Brain injuries lead to loss of consciousness. |
Hanse |
Mar-11-09 12:41 AM |
#96 |
      -
ah, the insults, a real conversation killer |
omega minimo |
Mar-11-09 12:47 AM |
#98 |
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It's not an insult. |
Hanse |
Mar-11-09 12:49 AM |
#100 |
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hoist on your own petard |
omega minimo |
Mar-11-09 12:51 AM |
#103 |
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Take a look, it's in a book. |
Hanse |
Mar-11-09 12:56 AM |
#108 |
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Neuroscience. Read up on it! |
Odin2005 |
Mar-11-09 10:40 AM |
#130 |
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The brain telling itself that it is the be all and end all of consciousness doesn't make it so. |
omega minimo |
Mar-10-09 05:19 PM |
#36 |
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Don't try to put words in my mouth. |
FiveGoodMen |
Mar-10-09 05:42 PM |
#44 |
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um................ what?1! |
omega minimo |
Mar-10-09 06:26 PM |
#52 |
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You made a statement and I asked you to prove it |
FiveGoodMen |
Mar-10-09 06:35 PM |
#57 |
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I made a statement. Not sure how you got it backwards. It's not all about you. |
omega minimo |
Mar-10-09 06:52 PM |
#61 |
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Wow |
FiveGoodMen |
Mar-10-09 06:53 PM |
#62 |
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Exactly! |
kimmerspixelated |
Mar-10-09 05:11 PM |
#26 |
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Yes but if we all have souls, wouldn't the brain be a logical place |
Uncle Joe |
Mar-10-09 05:16 PM |
#33 |
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yes. isn't the pituitary considered some sort of connection.......? |
omega minimo |
Mar-10-09 05:25 PM |
#39 |
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Wouldnt the pituitary be affected |
DearAbby |
Mar-10-09 05:51 PM |
#48 |
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esp in a windtunnel in an echo chamber in a willfully ignorant circular firing squad |
omega minimo |
Mar-10-09 06:27 PM |
#53 |
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willful ignorance |
Aethertek |
Mar-11-09 03:19 PM |
#186 |
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The sound waves of the magnetic field? |
HiFructosePronSyrup |
Mar-10-09 06:38 PM |
#58 |
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He heard that |
omega minimo |
Mar-10-09 06:53 PM |
#63 |
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Huh? |
DearAbby |
Mar-10-09 07:18 PM |
#72 |
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Pineal gland |
conscious evolution |
Mar-11-09 02:19 PM |
#166 |
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Pineal, thank you, that's it. |
omega minimo |
Mar-11-09 03:09 PM |
#181 |
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"We all have souls, not located in the brain" PROVE IT!!! |
Odin2005 |
Mar-11-09 10:33 AM |
#129 |
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Here's a clue |
omega minimo |
Mar-11-09 03:09 PM |
#182 |
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Interesting theory..n/t |
DearAbby |
Mar-11-09 02:01 AM |
#115 |
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The harmonics of the field? |
HiFructosePronSyrup |
Mar-10-09 04:53 PM |
#15 |
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like vibes? |
omega minimo |
Mar-10-09 05:00 PM |
#20 |
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Like baloney. |
HiFructosePronSyrup |
Mar-10-09 05:02 PM |
#22 |
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You've never heard of electromagnetic storms or solar flares? |
omega minimo |
Mar-10-09 05:09 PM |
#25 |
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Sure I have. |
HiFructosePronSyrup |
Mar-10-09 05:12 PM |
#28 |
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how is Uncle Joe's post 7 you responded to "pseudoscience"? |
omega minimo |
Mar-10-09 05:16 PM |
#31 |
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I didn't respond to Uncle Joe's post 7. |
HiFructosePronSyrup |
Mar-10-09 05:18 PM |
#34 |
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So you dispute the existence "the magnetic field" or "the harmonices of the field"? |
omega minimo |
Mar-10-09 05:28 PM |
#40 |
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I don't know what "harmonices of the field" means. |
HiFructosePronSyrup |
Mar-10-09 05:43 PM |
#45 |
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and you don't recall your own post #15? quit playing bs games. |
omega minimo |
Mar-10-09 06:25 PM |
#51 |
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... |
HiFructosePronSyrup |
Mar-10-09 06:38 PM |
#59 |
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yet claim ignorance of basic concepts. Strange. |
omega minimo |
Mar-10-09 06:54 PM |
#64 |
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I don't claim ignorance of basic concepts. |
HiFructosePronSyrup |
Mar-10-09 07:00 PM |
#65 |
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Perhaps you will find another thread of interest and let others discuss what you dismiss |
omega minimo |
Mar-10-09 07:43 PM |
#75 |
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Nah, this is GD. |
HiFructosePronSyrup |
Mar-10-09 08:00 PM |
#80 |
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"Unchallenged"? That doesn't mean flamed and locked by the bully club |
omega minimo |
Mar-10-09 08:47 PM |
#84 |
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No. |
HiFructosePronSyrup |
Mar-11-09 11:06 AM |
#135 |
  -
Yet |
omega minimo |
Mar-11-09 01:18 PM |
#140 |
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You can't call people assholes then complain about bullying. |
HiFructosePronSyrup |
Mar-11-09 01:31 PM |
#144 |
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you can't trample on others and then pretend to deserve more credibility to discuss |
omega minimo |
Mar-11-09 01:45 PM |
#148 |
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You're being called on your BS. |
HiFructosePronSyrup |
Mar-11-09 01:50 PM |
#149 |
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the attack mode just won't work. maybe readjust the attitude. |
omega minimo |
Mar-11-09 01:52 PM |
#152 |
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It seems to be working pretty well. |
HiFructosePronSyrup |
Mar-11-09 01:52 PM |
#153 |
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It seems to be working pretty well. |
omega minimo |
Mar-11-09 02:11 PM |
#158 |
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Not so. So far I've won the discussion. |
HiFructosePronSyrup |
Mar-11-09 02:14 PM |
#159 |
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You win. |
omega minimo |
Mar-11-09 02:15 PM |
#161 |
  -
Yes, I know. |
HiFructosePronSyrup |
Mar-11-09 02:18 PM |
#165 |
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OIC |
omega minimo |
Mar-11-09 02:38 PM |
#172 |
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No. |
HiFructosePronSyrup |
Mar-11-09 02:42 PM |
#175 |
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! |
omega minimo |
Mar-11-09 02:48 PM |
#177 |
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Because of an improper use of the word "harmonics". |
Smith_3 |
Mar-11-09 05:19 AM |
#119 |
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I never used the word harmonics in my post. |
Uncle Joe |
Mar-11-09 12:34 PM |
#139 |
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My mistakes, Uncle Joe. Sorry |
omega minimo |
Mar-11-09 01:34 PM |
#145 |
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No, Dear Abby did. |
HiFructosePronSyrup |
Mar-11-09 01:34 PM |
#146 |
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Is it not science to question? |
Uncle Joe |
Mar-11-09 02:02 PM |
#157 |
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... |
HiFructosePronSyrup |
Mar-11-09 02:18 PM |
#163 |
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So if an elephant is sad, |
Uncle Joe |
Mar-11-09 02:36 PM |
#170 |
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It indicates an elephant may be able to have some degree of abstract thought. |
HiFructosePronSyrup |
Mar-11-09 02:50 PM |
#178 |
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see |
omega minimo |
Mar-11-09 03:12 PM |
#184 |
  -
Yes, I know. |
HiFructosePronSyrup |
Mar-11-09 03:25 PM |
#188 |
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. |
omega minimo |
Mar-11-09 03:32 PM |
#191 |
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And you continue to illustrate my point. |
HiFructosePronSyrup |
Mar-11-09 03:35 PM |
#193 |
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the point is |
omega minimo |
Mar-11-09 03:36 PM |
#194 |
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No, I'm completely aware of my behaviour. |
HiFructosePronSyrup |
Mar-11-09 03:39 PM |
#196 |
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if |
omega minimo |
Mar-11-09 03:48 PM |
#198 |
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I only used the elephant behavior example as a possible furtherance to |
Uncle Joe |
Mar-11-09 03:27 PM |
#189 |
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. |
omega minimo |
Mar-11-09 02:27 PM |
#168 |
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Solar flares don't influence the human brain. |
HiFructosePronSyrup |
Mar-11-09 02:28 PM |
#169 |
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do you have any evidence of that? Links. please? TY |
omega minimo |
Mar-11-09 02:47 PM |
#176 |
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Why should I provide evidence and links if you won't? |
HiFructosePronSyrup |
Mar-11-09 02:50 PM |
#179 |
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You can't |
omega minimo |
Mar-11-09 02:58 PM |
#180 |
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Yes, I can. |
HiFructosePronSyrup |
Mar-11-09 03:24 PM |
#187 |
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could you point out the reference there to solar flares effects on humans? |
omega minimo |
Mar-11-09 03:35 PM |
#192 |
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No. |
HiFructosePronSyrup |
Mar-11-09 03:38 PM |
#195 |
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no |
omega minimo |
Mar-11-09 03:45 PM |
#197 |
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Actually, yeah it is. |
HiFructosePronSyrup |
Mar-12-09 04:05 PM |
#205 |
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that's absurd |
omega minimo |
Mar-12-09 04:12 PM |
#206 |
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Why is a comparison to a refrigerator magnet silly? |
HiFructosePronSyrup |
Mar-12-09 04:21 PM |
#208 |
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someone truly versed in and interested in science |
omega minimo |
Mar-11-09 01:42 PM |
#147 |
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If the evidence is worth discussing... |
HiFructosePronSyrup |
Mar-11-09 01:51 PM |
#151 |
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. |
omega minimo |
Mar-11-09 01:53 PM |
#154 |
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Asking you a hard question is a form of attack? |
HiFructosePronSyrup |
Mar-11-09 01:55 PM |
#155 |
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and then the pretending |
omega minimo |
Mar-11-09 02:14 PM |
#160 |
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His post was indeed pseudoscience. |
Smith_3 |
Mar-11-09 05:24 AM |
#120 |
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, |
omega minimo |
Mar-11-09 08:52 PM |
#201 |
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"It was obviously an attempt at appearing smart without having real knowledge of the subject." |
omega minimo |
Mar-11-09 08:58 PM |
#202 |
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... |
HiFructosePronSyrup |
Mar-12-09 04:17 PM |
#207 |
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again the pretending |
omega minimo |
Mar-12-09 08:18 PM |
#209 |
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a "God helmet" |
Control-Z |
Mar-10-09 05:12 PM |
#27 |
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$59.96 at Walmart. |
GoesTo11 |
Mar-10-09 05:18 PM |
#35 |
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Sounds like something Vince would sell on TV |
tridim |
Mar-10-09 07:43 PM |
#74 |
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It's a sham. |
yodermon |
Mar-10-09 07:51 PM |
#78 |
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the same brain spot that controls fleecing people out of their money nt |
msongs |
Mar-10-09 04:32 PM |
#10 |
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will those holy bags of water pushed on Robertson's channel |
Donnachaidh |
Mar-10-09 07:13 PM |
#71 |
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. |
SammyWinstonJack |
Mar-11-09 10:53 AM |
#133 |
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Are you talking about the G spot or God spot? |
RiverStone |
Mar-10-09 04:37 PM |
#11 |
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Beat me to it |
guitar man |
Mar-10-09 04:42 PM |
#12 |
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Now that's enlightenment! |
RiverStone |
Mar-10-09 04:54 PM |
#16 |
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!! |
guitar man |
Mar-10-09 05:00 PM |
#19 |
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The stegosaurus |
H2O Man |
Mar-10-09 06:39 PM |
#60 |
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unless I'm mistaken-- and that's been known to happen occasionally... |
mike_c |
Mar-10-09 07:34 PM |
#73 |
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Now I have |
H2O Man |
Mar-10-09 08:00 PM |
#82 |
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our work here is done, Tonto.... |
mike_c |
Mar-10-09 09:11 PM |
#89 |
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Back when we were all in scattered tribes in the wilderness . . |
annabanana |
Mar-10-09 04:52 PM |
#14 |
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And Now That We're All Perfectly Capable of Behaving In a Civilized Manner, We No Longer Need It? |
NashVegas |
Mar-10-09 05:41 PM |
#42 |
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IMHO |
annabanana |
Mar-10-09 08:17 PM |
#83 |
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good point. |
omega minimo |
Mar-11-09 12:50 AM |
#101 |
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I think it's wired differently in my brain |
MedleyMisty |
Mar-10-09 05:13 PM |
#29 |
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I didn't get it either, thank Gawd! |
SammyWinstonJack |
Mar-11-09 10:56 AM |
#134 |
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that article is a steaming pile of b.s. |
KG |
Mar-10-09 05:16 PM |
#32 |
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"injected radioactive isotope into Buddhists at the point at which they achieved meditative nirvana" |
Vickers |
Mar-10-09 05:22 PM |
#38 |
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I read that dyslexic brains are wired a little differently |
GoesTo11 |
Mar-10-09 05:32 PM |
#41 |
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LOL. I like that. And they name him Spot. Love it. nt |
Ilsa |
Mar-10-09 07:06 PM |
# |
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LOL. I like that. And they name him Spot. Love it. nt |
Ilsa |
Mar-10-09 07:06 PM |
#67 |
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So people are born that way eh |
The Straight Story |
Mar-10-09 05:43 PM |
#46 |
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Zing! |
GoesTo11 |
Mar-10-09 05:54 PM |
#50 |
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people evolved that way |
omega minimo |
Mar-10-09 06:28 PM |
#54 |
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Biological predestination... |
LanternWaste |
Mar-10-09 06:31 PM |
#55 |
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Puh-raze jeebiz |
leftofthedial |
Mar-10-09 07:08 PM |
#68 |
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So maybe those of us that have enough trauma in their lives |
Ilsa |
Mar-10-09 07:08 PM |
#69 |
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Maybe that's part of the continuum of experience that doesn't fit in the God/No God boxes |
omega minimo |
Mar-10-09 08:49 PM |
#85 |
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(facepalm) |
BlooInBloo |
Mar-10-09 07:44 PM |
#76 |
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"religious faith" or "experience of the ineffable" ? |
Beam Me Up |
Mar-10-09 07:51 PM |
#77 |
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it could be |
omega minimo |
Mar-10-09 08:53 PM |
#86 |
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I have "experiences of the ineffable" too. I just don't need a BS term "god" and act like it is ... |
Odin2005 |
Mar-11-09 10:51 AM |
#132 |
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Yes, that's why I'm asking the question. |
Beam Me Up |
Mar-11-09 12:16 PM |
#136 |
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great posts. thank you for stating it so well |
omega minimo |
Mar-11-09 02:18 PM |
#164 |
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There is another book |
conscious evolution |
Mar-11-09 02:37 PM |
#171 |
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DMT and I are old friends. |
Beam Me Up |
Mar-13-09 01:44 AM |
#210 |
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Absolutely. That was Beam's point. |
omega minimo |
Mar-11-09 02:17 PM |
#162 |
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Very interesting. I would point out one thing, however. |
Marr |
Mar-10-09 07:56 PM |
#79 |
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The God Part of the Brain talks about this, published in 1996 (link inside) |
IrishBuckeye |
Mar-10-09 08:00 PM |
#81 |
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Welcome to DU. Sound familiar? |
omega minimo |
Mar-10-09 08:59 PM |
#88 |
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They might have used the word "connection" rather than "belief" |
omega minimo |
Mar-10-09 08:56 PM |
#87 |
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My problem is with the present tense word "helps", rather than "helped". |
Marr |
Mar-10-09 09:56 PM |
#92 |
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I'm not sure the brain activity, if it occurs |
omega minimo |
Mar-11-09 12:54 AM |
#106 |
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In the worlds current situation.... |
wuvuj |
Mar-11-09 02:41 PM |
#173 |
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similar to |
omega minimo |
Mar-11-09 03:29 PM |
#190 |
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Good point... |
wuvuj |
Mar-13-09 07:41 AM |
#213 |
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The only part of this article that compared different beliefs showed |
jmm |
Mar-10-09 10:15 PM |
#93 |
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, |
omega minimo |
Mar-11-09 12:43 AM |
#97 |
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I would've much rather read an opinion piece full of quotes like that |
jmm |
Mar-11-09 09:29 AM |
#122 |
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ok |
omega minimo |
Mar-11-09 01:19 PM |
#141 |
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Religion = survival trait |
LiberalPersona |
Mar-11-09 12:36 AM |
#95 |
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Time to open clinics for "God spot"ectomies. Remove that offending area! Solve society's problems! |
NoodleyAppendage |
Mar-11-09 12:53 AM |
#105 |
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wow, what did they do to you! |
omega minimo |
Mar-11-09 01:07 AM |
#111 |
  -
Hmm...let's see. Denying gays marriage rights, subjugating women, fighting wars, etc. |
NoodleyAppendage |
Mar-11-09 09:39 AM |
#124 |
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If you see it that way, it's really fear/anger that is the problem. |
anonymous171 |
Mar-11-09 09:47 AM |
#126 |
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IMHO |
omega minimo |
Mar-11-09 01:51 PM |
#150 |
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No thanks |
tavalon |
Mar-11-09 05:02 AM |
#118 |
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Yep. Then once they find the gay gene we can set up gay clinics to cure that ill as well! |
anonymous171 |
Mar-11-09 09:32 AM |
#123 |
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You don't need religion to be a heterogeneous populace. Cultural differences exist beyond religion. |
NoodleyAppendage |
Mar-11-09 09:40 AM |
#125 |
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Correct |
bridgit |
Mar-11-09 01:21 AM |
#113 |
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. |
omega minimo |
Mar-11-09 01:40 AM |
#114 |
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The fact that different nations vary widely in the level of belief of their populations.. |
Fumesucker |
Mar-11-09 06:06 AM |
#121 |
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Who is that person in your little photo? |
Sequoia |
Mar-11-09 12:20 PM |
#137 |
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interesting enough |
backtoblue |
Mar-11-09 12:25 PM |
#138 |
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wow. who knew? what happens to it? |
omega minimo |
Mar-11-09 01:56 PM |
#156 |
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because some people might be sensitive |
backtoblue |
Mar-11-09 03:55 PM |
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The brain stem burns just like the rest of the brain. |
HiFructosePronSyrup |
Mar-11-09 02:24 PM |
#167 |
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maybe so, but |
backtoblue |
Mar-11-09 03:52 PM |
#199 |
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Spongy even after immolation? |
omega minimo |
Mar-11-09 09:16 PM |
#203 |
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Well |
backtoblue |
Mar-12-09 08:57 AM |
#204 |
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Is it shaped like a pine cone? |
conscious evolution |
Mar-11-09 02:41 PM |
#174 |
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The god spot is really a dead spot in the brain caused from excessive prayer. |
dkofos |
Mar-11-09 01:22 PM |
#142 |
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The eternal sunshine of the spotless mind. |
dcindian |
Mar-11-09 01:23 PM |
#143 |
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James Randi Education Foundation |
bethdoc |
Mar-11-09 03:18 PM |
#185 |
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Oh, god, puLEEze -- not THAT cia front org |
Beam Me Up |
Mar-13-09 01:45 AM |
#211 |
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they don't want any competition |
omega minimo |
Mar-13-09 01:58 AM |
#212 |
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As far as I'm concerned, they are the nerd version of freeper town. n/t |
Beam Me Up |
Mar-13-09 12:52 PM |
#214 |