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83. IMHO
Humans being the thick things that they are... the MESSAGE has been lost in the worship of the MAN. All religious traditions share some basic fundamental facts regarding how people ought to treat each other. All of them manage to crust up those essentials seeds with dogma and new rules that make sense to their host societies at the time... which get further codified in subsequent generations.. until they are unable to transmit that which is most essential.

The gene will only function as required if people manage to transcend the traditions.
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  Belief and the brain's 'God spot' babsbunny  Mar-10-09 05:00 PM   #0 
   Mebbe this explains why people have faith in the markets  leftstreet   Mar-10-09 05:03 PM   #1 
   The existence of that spot is more proof of an intelligent creator  GoesTo11   Mar-10-09 05:03 PM   #2 
   Leave it to the religious to take scientific research  stopbush   Mar-10-09 05:13 PM   #3 
   oh for pete's sake....  mike_c   Mar-10-09 05:18 PM   #4 
   The article seems to suggest it's a side effect of the capacity to make moral judgements.  Commie Pinko Dirtbag   Mar-10-09 05:27 PM   #8 
      oh I agree completely...  mike_c   Mar-10-09 08:12 PM   #70 
   The existence of that spot is more proof man is compelled to create a creator  Oregone   Mar-10-09 05:22 PM   #5 
   Absolutely!  tavalon   Mar-11-09 06:00 AM   #116 
   !  SammyWinstonJack   Mar-11-09 11:46 AM   #131 
   That's like saying our susceptibility to electric shocks is proof of the existence of Zeus. -nt  Commie Pinko Dirtbag   Mar-10-09 05:24 PM   #6 
   You understand perfectly!  tavalon   Mar-11-09 06:00 AM   #117 
   You've got to be fucking kidding me.  LeftyMom   Mar-10-09 05:57 PM   #17 
   And a sense of humor would be evidence of a silly creator  GoesTo11   Mar-10-09 06:02 PM   #21 
      Hey, I like trickster gods.  damntexdem   Mar-10-09 06:43 PM   #47 
   No, it's more like an explanation  FiveGoodMen   Mar-10-09 06:07 PM   #23 
   lol  fascisthunter   Mar-10-09 06:19 PM   #37 
   No proof of God, no proof of no God.  damntexdem   Mar-10-09 06:42 PM   #43 
   What if MRI imaging yielded more accurate pictures  GoesTo11   Mar-10-09 06:53 PM   #49 
   Perhaps it is  H2O Man   Mar-10-09 07:33 PM   #56 
   ...  omega minimo   Mar-10-09 10:12 PM   #91 
   ....  Donnachaidh   Mar-10-09 08:06 PM   #66 
   No, it's proof that God is an invention of our own minds.  Odin2005   Mar-11-09 11:30 AM   #128 
   Please tell me this is sarcasim  NeedleCast   Mar-11-09 04:10 PM   #183 
   I wonder if fluctuations in the Earth's Magnetic Field could have or has had an effect  Uncle Joe   Mar-10-09 05:25 PM   #7 
   Either the Magnetic field  DearAbby   Mar-10-09 05:30 PM   #9 
   Yes but I'm looking for a direct historical religious correlation, according to this paragraph,  Uncle Joe   Mar-10-09 05:50 PM   #13 
   there will be no "direct historical religious correlation" b/c we all have souls, not located in the  omega minimo   Mar-10-09 05:59 PM   #18 
   "we all have souls, not located in the brain"  FiveGoodMen   Mar-10-09 06:08 PM   #24 
   What is asserted without proof may be dismissed without proof.  stopbush   Mar-10-09 06:16 PM   #30 
   What evidence do you have that consciousness is limited to the brain?  omega minimo   Mar-10-09 10:11 PM   #90 
      There's no evidence that it isn't.  stopbush   Mar-11-09 12:45 AM   #94 
      There's plenty of evidence, based on experience. except someone convinced to ignore it, will deny it  omega minimo   Mar-11-09 01:48 AM   #99 
         Plenty of evidence? Great.  Hanse   Mar-11-09 01:50 AM   #102 
         Already did  omega minimo   Mar-11-09 01:52 AM   #104 
         Cite it again.  Hanse   Mar-11-09 01:54 AM   #107 
            What part of discussion killer don't you comprehend?  omega minimo   Mar-11-09 01:57 AM   #109 
               The part where you support your claim with evidence.  Hanse   Mar-11-09 02:00 AM   #110 
         Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Mar-11-09 02:18 AM   #112 
         No, there isn't any evidence. There is hearsay, opinion and wishful thinking.  stopbush   Mar-11-09 11:27 AM   #127 
      Brain injuries lead to loss of consciousness.  Hanse   Mar-11-09 01:41 AM   #96 
      ah, the insults, a real conversation killer  omega minimo   Mar-11-09 01:47 AM   #98 
         It's not an insult.  Hanse   Mar-11-09 01:49 AM   #100 
            hoist on your own petard  omega minimo   Mar-11-09 01:51 AM   #103 
               Take a look, it's in a book.  Hanse   Mar-11-09 01:56 AM   #108 
      Neuroscience. Read up on it!  Odin2005   Mar-11-09 11:40 AM   #130 
   The brain telling itself that it is the be all and end all of consciousness doesn't make it so.  omega minimo   Mar-10-09 06:19 PM   #36 
      Don't try to put words in my mouth.  FiveGoodMen   Mar-10-09 06:42 PM   #44 
         um................ what?1!  omega minimo   Mar-10-09 07:26 PM   #52 
            You made a statement and I asked you to prove it  FiveGoodMen   Mar-10-09 07:35 PM   #57 
               I made a statement. Not sure how you got it backwards. It's not all about you.  omega minimo   Mar-10-09 07:52 PM   #61 
                  Wow  FiveGoodMen   Mar-10-09 07:53 PM   #62 
   Exactly!  kimmerspixelated   Mar-10-09 06:11 PM   #26 
   Yes but if we all have souls, wouldn't the brain be a logical place  Uncle Joe   Mar-10-09 06:16 PM   #33 
   yes. isn't the pituitary considered some sort of connection.......?  omega minimo   Mar-10-09 06:25 PM   #39 
      Wouldnt the pituitary be affected  DearAbby   Mar-10-09 06:51 PM   #48 
      esp in a windtunnel in an echo chamber in a willfully ignorant circular firing squad  omega minimo   Mar-10-09 07:27 PM   #53 
      willful ignorance  Aethertek   Mar-11-09 04:19 PM   #186 
      The sound waves of the magnetic field?  HiFructosePronSyrup   Mar-10-09 07:38 PM   #58 
         He heard that  omega minimo   Mar-10-09 07:53 PM   #63 
            Huh?  DearAbby   Mar-10-09 08:18 PM   #72 
      Pineal gland  conscious evolution   Mar-11-09 03:19 PM   #166 
         Pineal, thank you, that's it.  omega minimo   Mar-11-09 04:09 PM   #181 
   "We all have souls, not located in the brain" PROVE IT!!!  Odin2005   Mar-11-09 11:33 AM   #129 
      Here's a clue  omega minimo   Mar-11-09 04:09 PM   #182 
   Interesting theory..n/t  DearAbby   Mar-11-09 03:01 AM   #115 
   The harmonics of the field?  HiFructosePronSyrup   Mar-10-09 05:53 PM   #15 
      like vibes?  omega minimo   Mar-10-09 06:00 PM   #20 
         Like baloney.  HiFructosePronSyrup   Mar-10-09 06:02 PM   #22 
            You've never heard of electromagnetic storms or solar flares?  omega minimo   Mar-10-09 06:09 PM   #25 
               Sure I have.  HiFructosePronSyrup   Mar-10-09 06:12 PM   #28 
                  how is Uncle Joe's post 7 you responded to "pseudoscience"?  omega minimo   Mar-10-09 06:16 PM   #31 
                  I didn't respond to Uncle Joe's post 7.  HiFructosePronSyrup   Mar-10-09 06:18 PM   #34 
                  So you dispute the existence "the magnetic field" or "the harmonices of the field"?  omega minimo   Mar-10-09 06:28 PM   #40 
                     I don't know what "harmonices of the field" means.  HiFructosePronSyrup   Mar-10-09 06:43 PM   #45 
                        and you don't recall your own post #15? quit playing bs games.  omega minimo   Mar-10-09 07:25 PM   #51 
                           ...  HiFructosePronSyrup   Mar-10-09 07:38 PM   #59 
                              yet claim ignorance of basic concepts. Strange.  omega minimo   Mar-10-09 07:54 PM   #64 
                                 I don't claim ignorance of basic concepts.  HiFructosePronSyrup   Mar-10-09 08:00 PM   #65 
                                    Perhaps you will find another thread of interest and let others discuss what you dismiss  omega minimo   Mar-10-09 08:43 PM   #75 
                                       Nah, this is GD.  HiFructosePronSyrup   Mar-10-09 09:00 PM   #80 
                                          "Unchallenged"? That doesn't mean flamed and locked by the bully club  omega minimo   Mar-10-09 09:47 PM   #84 
                                             No.  HiFructosePronSyrup   Mar-11-09 12:06 PM   #135 
                                             Yet  omega minimo   Mar-11-09 02:18 PM   #140 
                                             You can't call people assholes then complain about bullying.  HiFructosePronSyrup   Mar-11-09 02:31 PM   #144 
                                             you can't trample on others and then pretend to deserve more credibility to discuss  omega minimo   Mar-11-09 02:45 PM   #148 
                                             You're being called on your BS.  HiFructosePronSyrup   Mar-11-09 02:50 PM   #149 
                                             the attack mode just won't work. maybe readjust the attitude.  omega minimo   Mar-11-09 02:52 PM   #152 
                                             It seems to be working pretty well.  HiFructosePronSyrup   Mar-11-09 02:52 PM   #153 
                                             It seems to be working pretty well.  omega minimo   Mar-11-09 03:11 PM   #158 
                                             Not so. So far I've won the discussion.  HiFructosePronSyrup   Mar-11-09 03:14 PM   #159 
                                             You win.  omega minimo   Mar-11-09 03:15 PM   #161 
                                             Yes, I know.  HiFructosePronSyrup   Mar-11-09 03:18 PM   #165 
                                             OIC  omega minimo   Mar-11-09 03:38 PM   #172 
                                             No.  HiFructosePronSyrup   Mar-11-09 03:42 PM   #175 
                                             !  omega minimo   Mar-11-09 03:48 PM   #177 
                  Because of an improper use of the word "harmonics".  Smith_3   Mar-11-09 06:19 AM   #119 
                     I never used the word harmonics in my post.  Uncle Joe   Mar-11-09 01:34 PM   #139 
                        My mistakes, Uncle Joe. Sorry  omega minimo   Mar-11-09 02:34 PM   #145 
                        No, Dear Abby did.  HiFructosePronSyrup   Mar-11-09 02:34 PM   #146 
                        Is it not science to question?  Uncle Joe   Mar-11-09 03:02 PM   #157 
                           ...  HiFructosePronSyrup   Mar-11-09 03:18 PM   #163 
                           So if an elephant is sad,  Uncle Joe   Mar-11-09 03:36 PM   #170 
                              It indicates an elephant may be able to have some degree of abstract thought.  HiFructosePronSyrup   Mar-11-09 03:50 PM   #178 
                                 see  omega minimo   Mar-11-09 04:12 PM   #184 
                                 Yes, I know.  HiFructosePronSyrup   Mar-11-09 04:25 PM   #188 
                                    .  omega minimo   Mar-11-09 04:32 PM   #191 
                                       And you continue to illustrate my point.  HiFructosePronSyrup   Mar-11-09 04:35 PM   #193 
                                       the point is  omega minimo   Mar-11-09 04:36 PM   #194 
                                       No, I'm completely aware of my behaviour.  HiFructosePronSyrup   Mar-11-09 04:39 PM   #196 
                                       if  omega minimo   Mar-11-09 04:48 PM   #198 
                                 I only used the elephant behavior example as a possible furtherance to  Uncle Joe   Mar-11-09 04:27 PM   #189 
                           .  omega minimo   Mar-11-09 03:27 PM   #168 
                              Solar flares don't influence the human brain.  HiFructosePronSyrup   Mar-11-09 03:28 PM   #169 
                                 do you have any evidence of that? Links. please? TY  omega minimo   Mar-11-09 03:47 PM   #176 
                                    Why should I provide evidence and links if you won't?  HiFructosePronSyrup   Mar-11-09 03:50 PM   #179 
                                       You can't  omega minimo   Mar-11-09 03:58 PM   #180 
                                          Yes, I can.  HiFructosePronSyrup   Mar-11-09 04:24 PM   #187 
                                             could you point out the reference there to solar flares effects on humans?  omega minimo   Mar-11-09 04:35 PM   #192 
                                             No.  HiFructosePronSyrup   Mar-11-09 04:38 PM   #195 
                                             no  omega minimo   Mar-11-09 04:45 PM   #197 
                                             Actually, yeah it is.  HiFructosePronSyrup   Mar-12-09 05:05 PM   #205 
                                             that's absurd  omega minimo   Mar-12-09 05:12 PM   #206 
                                             Why is a comparison to a refrigerator magnet silly?  HiFructosePronSyrup   Mar-12-09 05:21 PM   #208 
                        someone truly versed in and interested in science  omega minimo   Mar-11-09 02:42 PM   #147 
                           If the evidence is worth discussing...  HiFructosePronSyrup   Mar-11-09 02:51 PM   #151 
                              .  omega minimo   Mar-11-09 02:53 PM   #154 
                                 Asking you a hard question is a form of attack?  HiFructosePronSyrup   Mar-11-09 02:55 PM   #155 
                                    and then the pretending  omega minimo   Mar-11-09 03:14 PM   #160 
                  His post was indeed pseudoscience.  Smith_3   Mar-11-09 06:24 AM   #120 
                     ,  omega minimo   Mar-11-09 09:52 PM   #201 
                     "It was obviously an attempt at appearing smart without having real knowledge of the subject."  omega minimo   Mar-11-09 09:58 PM   #202 
                        ...  HiFructosePronSyrup   Mar-12-09 05:17 PM   #207 
                           again the pretending  omega minimo   Mar-12-09 09:18 PM   #209 
   a "God helmet"  Control-Z   Mar-10-09 06:12 PM   #27 
      $59.96 at Walmart.  GoesTo11   Mar-10-09 06:18 PM   #35 
      Sounds like something Vince would sell on TV  tridim   Mar-10-09 08:43 PM   #74 
         It's a sham.  yodermon   Mar-10-09 08:51 PM   #78 
   the same brain spot that controls fleecing people out of their money nt  msongs   Mar-10-09 05:32 PM   #10 
   will those holy bags of water pushed on Robertson's channel  Donnachaidh   Mar-10-09 08:13 PM   #71 
   .  SammyWinstonJack   Mar-11-09 11:53 AM   #133 
   Are you talking about the G spot or God spot?  RiverStone   Mar-10-09 05:37 PM   #11 
   Beat me to it  guitar man   Mar-10-09 05:42 PM   #12 
   Now that's enlightenment!  RiverStone   Mar-10-09 05:54 PM   #16 
      !!  guitar man   Mar-10-09 06:00 PM   #19 
   The stegosaurus  H2O Man   Mar-10-09 07:39 PM   #60 
      unless I'm mistaken-- and that's been known to happen occasionally...  mike_c   Mar-10-09 08:34 PM   #73 
         Now I have  H2O Man   Mar-10-09 09:00 PM   #82 
            our work here is done, Tonto....  mike_c   Mar-10-09 10:11 PM   #89 
   Back when we were all in scattered tribes in the wilderness . .  annabanana   Mar-10-09 05:52 PM   #14 
   And Now That We're All Perfectly Capable of Behaving In a Civilized Manner, We No Longer Need It?  NashVegas   Mar-10-09 06:41 PM   #42 
      IMHO  annabanana   Mar-10-09 09:17 PM   #83 
         good point.  omega minimo   Mar-11-09 01:50 AM   #101 
   I think it's wired differently in my brain  MedleyMisty   Mar-10-09 06:13 PM   #29 
   I didn't get it either, thank Gawd!  SammyWinstonJack   Mar-11-09 11:56 AM   #134 
   that article is a steaming pile of b.s.  KG   Mar-10-09 06:16 PM   #32 
   "injected radioactive isotope into Buddhists at the point at which they achieved meditative nirvana"  Vickers   Mar-10-09 06:22 PM   #38 
   I read that dyslexic brains are wired a little differently  GoesTo11   Mar-10-09 06:32 PM   #41 
   LOL. I like that. And they name him Spot. Love it. nt  Ilsa   Mar-10-09 08:06 PM   # 
   LOL. I like that. And they name him Spot. Love it. nt  Ilsa   Mar-10-09 08:06 PM   #67 
   So people are born that way eh  The Straight Story   Mar-10-09 06:43 PM   #46 
   Zing!  GoesTo11   Mar-10-09 06:54 PM   #50 
   people evolved that way  omega minimo   Mar-10-09 07:28 PM   #54 
   Biological predestination...  LanternWaste   Mar-10-09 07:31 PM   #55 
   Puh-raze jeebiz  leftofthedial   Mar-10-09 08:08 PM   #68 
   So maybe those of us that have enough trauma in their lives  Ilsa   Mar-10-09 08:08 PM   #69 
   Maybe that's part of the continuum of experience that doesn't fit in the God/No God boxes  omega minimo   Mar-10-09 09:49 PM   #85 
   (facepalm)  BlooInBloo   Mar-10-09 08:44 PM   #76 
   "religious faith" or "experience of the ineffable" ?  Beam Me Up   Mar-10-09 08:51 PM   #77 
   it could be  omega minimo   Mar-10-09 09:53 PM   #86 
   I have "experiences of the ineffable" too. I just don't need a BS term "god" and act like it is ...  Odin2005   Mar-11-09 11:51 AM   #132 
      Yes, that's why I'm asking the question.  Beam Me Up   Mar-11-09 01:16 PM   #136 
      great posts. thank you for stating it so well  omega minimo   Mar-11-09 03:18 PM   #164 
      There is another book  conscious evolution   Mar-11-09 03:37 PM   #171 
         DMT and I are old friends.  Beam Me Up   Mar-13-09 02:44 AM   #210 
      Absolutely. That was Beam's point.  omega minimo   Mar-11-09 03:17 PM   #162 
   Very interesting. I would point out one thing, however.  Marr   Mar-10-09 08:56 PM   #79 
   The God Part of the Brain talks about this, published in 1996 (link inside)  IrishBuckeye   Mar-10-09 09:00 PM   #81 
   Welcome to DU. Sound familiar?  omega minimo   Mar-10-09 09:59 PM   #88 
   They might have used the word "connection" rather than "belief"  omega minimo   Mar-10-09 09:56 PM   #87 
   My problem is with the present tense word "helps", rather than "helped".  Marr   Mar-10-09 10:56 PM   #92 
      I'm not sure the brain activity, if it occurs  omega minimo   Mar-11-09 01:54 AM   #106 
   In the worlds current situation....  wuvuj   Mar-11-09 03:41 PM   #173 
      similar to  omega minimo   Mar-11-09 04:29 PM   #190 
         Good point...  wuvuj   Mar-13-09 08:41 AM   #213 
   The only part of this article that compared different beliefs showed  jmm   Mar-10-09 11:15 PM   #93 
   ,  omega minimo   Mar-11-09 01:43 AM   #97 
      I would've much rather read an opinion piece full of quotes like that  jmm   Mar-11-09 10:29 AM   #122 
         ok  omega minimo   Mar-11-09 02:19 PM   #141 
   Religion = survival trait  LiberalPersona   Mar-11-09 01:36 AM   #95 
   Time to open clinics for "God spot"ectomies. Remove that offending area! Solve society's problems!  NoodleyAppendage   Mar-11-09 01:53 AM   #105 
   wow, what did they do to you!  omega minimo   Mar-11-09 02:07 AM   #111 
   Hmm...let's see. Denying gays marriage rights, subjugating women, fighting wars, etc.  NoodleyAppendage   Mar-11-09 10:39 AM   #124 
      If you see it that way, it's really fear/anger that is the problem.  anonymous171   Mar-11-09 10:47 AM   #126 
      IMHO  omega minimo   Mar-11-09 02:51 PM   #150 
   No thanks  tavalon   Mar-11-09 06:02 AM   #118 
   Yep. Then once they find the gay gene we can set up gay clinics to cure that ill as well!  anonymous171   Mar-11-09 10:32 AM   #123 
      You don't need religion to be a heterogeneous populace. Cultural differences exist beyond religion.  NoodleyAppendage   Mar-11-09 10:40 AM   #125 
   Correct  bridgit   Mar-11-09 02:21 AM   #113 
   .  omega minimo   Mar-11-09 02:40 AM   #114 
   The fact that different nations vary widely in the level of belief of their populations..  Fumesucker   Mar-11-09 07:06 AM   #121 
   Who is that person in your little photo?  Sequoia   Mar-11-09 01:20 PM   #137 
   interesting enough  backtoblue   Mar-11-09 01:25 PM   #138 
   wow. who knew? what happens to it?  omega minimo   Mar-11-09 02:56 PM   #156 
   because some people might be sensitive  backtoblue   Mar-11-09 04:55 PM   #200 
   The brain stem burns just like the rest of the brain.  HiFructosePronSyrup   Mar-11-09 03:24 PM   #167 
   maybe so, but  backtoblue   Mar-11-09 04:52 PM   #199 
      Spongy even after immolation?  omega minimo   Mar-11-09 10:16 PM   #203 
         Well  backtoblue   Mar-12-09 09:57 AM   #204 
   Is it shaped like a pine cone?  conscious evolution   Mar-11-09 03:41 PM   #174 
   The god spot is really a dead spot in the brain caused from excessive prayer.  dkofos   Mar-11-09 02:22 PM   #142 
   The eternal sunshine of the spotless mind.  dcindian   Mar-11-09 02:23 PM   #143 
   James Randi Education Foundation  bethdoc   Mar-11-09 04:18 PM   #185 
      Oh, god, puLEEze -- not THAT cia front org  Beam Me Up   Mar-13-09 02:45 AM   #211 
         they don't want any competition  omega minimo   Mar-13-09 02:58 AM   #212 
            As far as I'm concerned, they are the nerd version of freeper town. n/t  Beam Me Up   Mar-13-09 01:52 PM   #214 
 

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