| 224. Calling O'Reilly and Hannity "Republicans" |
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is "thuggish labeling?" She is siding with them (and you) isn't she?  And you just can't stop with the "dictatorial" business. As far as I can tell Chavez accepts the will of the people every time it's expressed, even when he disagrees with it. Seems more to me like it's YOU who engage in the the thuggish labeling - as a way of defending against claims that you have right-wing tendencies. |
| -"Shut up about Chavez the killer," Venezuelan co-star tells Sean Penn. |
Occam Bandage |
Mar-09-09 10:58 AM |
#0 |
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I think Chavez is a hero of the poor. |
ananda |
Mar-09-09 11:00 AM |
#1 |
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Some of us don't believe in political heros and think it's dangerous to |
cali |
Mar-09-09 11:02 AM |
#3 |
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Edit: Hero worship isn't really the same as admiration for a track record. |
EFerrari |
Mar-09-09 05:58 PM |
#160 |
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uh, the poster said she thinks he's a hero. |
cali |
Mar-10-09 06:16 AM |
#213 |
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Pull the other one, it's got bells on. |
LeftyMom |
Mar-09-09 07:34 PM |
#181 |
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Really??? |
MicaelS |
Mar-09-09 11:04 AM |
#4 |
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A friend who went to Venezuela said he is treated like a rock star. |
roody |
Mar-10-09 12:11 AM |
#199 |
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I think Chavez is a politician with some good policies, some bad policies, |
Occam Bandage |
Mar-09-09 11:05 AM |
#6 |
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All too often, our demonization of "dictators" is tragically self-fulfilling |
RufusTFirefly |
Mar-09-09 11:26 AM |
#36 |
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It is, yes. Isolation only justifies the claims of radical elements in a country. |
Occam Bandage |
Mar-09-09 11:34 AM |
#44 |
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It's actually very hard to be a leftist President in South America because |
Cleita |
Mar-09-09 12:33 PM |
#85 |
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actually because you are likely to be shot by the CIA. |
endarkenment |
Mar-10-09 08:31 AM |
#220 |
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a hero of the poor? |
hendo |
Mar-09-09 11:14 AM |
#15 |
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The political opposition is alive and well in Venezuela |
endarkenment |
Mar-09-09 11:32 AM |
#42 |
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I think Mao did stand for the poor, to an extent that few "people's" dictators have. |
Occam Bandage |
Mar-09-09 11:41 AM |
#49 |
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Oh, Mao definitely did stand for the poor |
hendo |
Mar-09-09 11:52 AM |
#59 |
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Pretty much, yes. |
Occam Bandage |
Mar-09-09 11:59 AM |
#66 |
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To answer your question in Chinese |
hendo |
Mar-09-09 12:05 PM |
#69 |
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Never mind that the opposition is the wealthiest 5% - |
RaleighNCDUer |
Mar-09-09 01:17 PM |
#93 |
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It's a larger opposition than that |
hendo |
Mar-09-09 02:35 PM |
#111 |
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How much did he win the referendum by? Five, ten points? |
EFerrari |
Mar-09-09 02:59 PM |
#121 |
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Yes, because pointing to the legislature for examples of legitimate rule |
hendo |
Mar-09-09 05:50 PM |
#156 |
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Nope. I'm pointing to the vote. The legislature has nothing to do with it. |
EFerrari |
Mar-09-09 06:18 PM |
#165 |
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OK, it is PRIMARILY the 5% former oligarchs and the industries they |
RaleighNCDUer |
Mar-09-09 03:26 PM |
#128 |
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Thank-you. |
robinlynne |
Mar-09-09 07:22 PM |
#175 |
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Since when is an actual democratically elected leader who goes through official channels |
Kitty Herder |
Mar-09-09 03:42 PM |
#134 |
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Most of Venezuela agrees with you, as do I. |
robinlynne |
Mar-09-09 07:24 PM |
#176 |
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lol. |
cali |
Mar-09-09 11:01 AM |
#2 |
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There are no absolutes in this. |
Ikonoklast |
Mar-09-09 11:04 AM |
#5 |
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A hero to some, a villain to others |
marshall |
Mar-09-09 04:38 PM |
#142 |
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is this has his supporters excuse his killing gays... i dont know |
seabeyond |
Mar-10-09 06:55 AM |
#216 |
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When has he ever killed gays? |
Truth2Tell |
Mar-10-09 11:56 AM |
#223 |
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Heh. By that reasoning, the PM of Spain is a killer. |
Commie Pinko Dirtbag |
Mar-10-09 12:41 PM |
#228 |
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For that matter, I can't even find any evidence that CASTRO |
Truth2Tell |
Mar-10-09 01:26 PM |
#229 |
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Maria Conchita Alonso |
RufusTFirefly |
Mar-09-09 11:06 AM |
#7 |
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So basically a refuge with money siding with the Republicans. |
YOY |
Mar-09-09 11:19 AM |
#24 |
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It's funny to watch people engaging in thuggish labelling of the opposition |
Occam Bandage |
Mar-09-09 11:24 AM |
#30 |
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Oh he's no angel. |
YOY |
Mar-09-09 11:26 AM |
# |
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I agree. Actually, I confess I find the whole thing somewhat strange. Chavez seems so... |
Occam Bandage |
Mar-09-09 11:30 AM |
#40 |
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Much like any dictator he will go away after he "goes stale". |
YOY |
Mar-09-09 11:36 AM |
#47 |
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When the opposition decides to trust to elections instead of CIA funded |
RaleighNCDUer |
Mar-09-09 01:24 PM |
#95 |
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It's not about "maturity" of any ideology |
YOY |
Mar-09-09 05:07 PM |
#145 |
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Salvador Allende was demonized also by the elite and American interests |
Cleita |
Mar-09-09 12:26 PM |
#82 |
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Indeed. The pattern repeats and repeats and repeats |
RufusTFirefly |
Mar-09-09 01:27 PM |
#97 |
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they took care of him alright! RIP n/t |
G_j |
Mar-09-09 05:15 PM |
#148 |
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He seems to need constant attention |
NeedleCast |
Mar-09-09 12:42 PM |
#88 |
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It's actually the other way around. Notice that Chavez didn't write this article. |
EFerrari |
Mar-09-09 03:39 PM |
#132 |
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Put your shingle out as a Chavez-hating, climate-change denying, Iraq War apologist... |
RufusTFirefly |
Mar-09-09 05:05 PM |
#144 |
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It's remarkable the way they frame him to look like an attention whore |
EFerrari |
Mar-09-09 05:31 PM |
#152 |
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But of course |
hendo |
Mar-09-09 11:57 AM |
#64 |
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You mean, the McCain supporting guest of Hannity and O'Reilly? |
EFerrari |
Mar-09-09 05:54 PM |
#158 |
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Understanding María Conchita Alonso's biases is essential for proper interpretation of her comments: |
struggle4progress |
Mar-09-09 02:57 PM |
#119 |
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Ms. Alonso and her brother are not totally disinterested bystanders are they? |
rosesaylavee |
Mar-09-09 07:19 PM |
#174 |
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Calling O'Reilly and Hannity "Republicans" |
Truth2Tell |
Mar-10-09 12:05 PM |
#224 |
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Don't forget she co-starred with Arnie in The Running Man. |
OnyxCollie |
Mar-09-09 12:47 PM |
#91 |
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Republicans start foaming at the mouth when they think of leftist performers, |
Judi Lynn |
Mar-10-09 06:07 AM |
#209 |
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Her brother, Roberto Alonso, is the leading proponent of "guarimba," which means violent protest. |
Judi Lynn |
Mar-09-09 02:52 PM |
#118 |
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That explains a lot. nt |
Kitty Herder |
Mar-09-09 03:42 PM |
#135 |
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The article doesn't mention that she was actually born in Cuba in 1957. |
Tanuki |
Mar-09-09 11:08 AM |
#8 |
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Yes, I suppose she is most likely an enemy of the revolution. |
Occam Bandage |
Mar-09-09 11:11 AM |
#10 |
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She moved when she was 5 years old |
hendo |
Mar-09-09 11:12 AM |
#11 |
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Chavez is not a good guy |
hendo |
Mar-09-09 11:10 AM |
#9 |
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A quite Large portion of Venezuela might disagree |
Winterblues |
Mar-09-09 11:22 AM |
# |
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So what you are saying is that the fact that Bush was elected by a majority of US voters |
distantearlywarning |
Mar-09-09 11:44 AM |
#51 |
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Bush didn't even get a plurality in 2000. nt |
Occam Bandage |
Mar-09-09 11:45 AM |
#52 |
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However, in 2004 he got a solid majority. NT |
hendo |
Mar-09-09 11:46 AM |
#54 |
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Certainly. Strong evidence against the claim that a popular vote |
Occam Bandage |
Mar-09-09 11:48 AM |
#56 |
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I'm not really sure that Bush would count as a dictator |
hendo |
Mar-09-09 11:55 AM |
# |
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Depends on what we mean by "dictator." |
Occam Bandage |
Mar-09-09 12:10 PM |
#71 |
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No, he didn't. |
RaleighNCDUer |
Mar-09-09 01:26 PM |
#96 |
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take off your tin foil hat |
hendo |
Mar-09-09 02:36 PM |
#113 |
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The Carter Center validated the Venezuelan elections - |
RaleighNCDUer |
Mar-09-09 03:04 PM |
#123 |
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Oh, yes, I see now! |
distantearlywarning |
Mar-09-09 11:53 AM |
#60 |
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How dare you attack Saint Chavez |
hendo |
Mar-09-09 11:45 AM |
#53 |
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Yeah, I don't know what I was thinking. |
distantearlywarning |
Mar-09-09 11:55 AM |
#61 |
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Venezuela votes on diebold with paper receipts |
Fireweed247 |
Mar-09-09 01:50 PM |
#106 |
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Which works wonders |
hendo |
Mar-09-09 02:37 PM |
#114 |
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Except they use open source software and their elections are monitored |
EFerrari |
Mar-09-09 02:51 PM |
#117 |
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...AND 55% handcount audit !!! |
bvar22 |
Mar-09-09 11:53 PM |
#196 |
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We should just buy ad space from Skinner: "Don't even ask about Venezuelan elections |
EFerrari |
Mar-10-09 12:09 AM |
#198 |
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How do you know that? I think I would be his lover if he would ever |
roody |
Mar-10-09 12:19 AM |
#201 |
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British journalism is really in decline |
wuushew |
Mar-09-09 11:12 AM |
#12 |
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the media has always been biased |
hendo |
Mar-09-09 11:16 AM |
#18 |
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I used to think perhaps Chavez was good for Venezuela... |
liberalmuse |
Mar-09-09 11:14 AM |
#13 |
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i, too, take any propaganda from (north) american media |
ellenfl |
Mar-09-09 12:23 PM |
#80 |
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I confess to not knowing who is right in the |
Le Taz Hot |
Mar-09-09 11:14 AM |
#14 |
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a good dictator always has a lavish palace to live within. NT |
hendo |
Mar-09-09 11:16 AM |
#20 |
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Hugo Chavez's palace has gold plated toilet seats and chicks with feather fans... |
devilgrrl |
Mar-09-09 11:17 AM |
#22 |
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Well, I didn't see anything about gold plated |
Le Taz Hot |
Mar-09-09 11:22 AM |
#27 |
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Mr. Chavez does live ostentatiously for a man who claims to be of the people. nt |
Occam Bandage |
Mar-09-09 11:22 AM |
#28 |
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I hear he has a really huge collection of shoes.... like 10,000 pairs or something. |
devilgrrl |
Mar-09-09 11:28 AM |
#37 |
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ROFL |
On the Road |
Mar-09-09 11:48 AM |
#55 |
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"The Palace" is an office/housing complex much like the White House is. |
ret5hd |
Mar-09-09 11:24 AM |
#31 |
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I hear that it has a built-in pool constructed out of human skulls!!!!!! |
devilgrrl |
Mar-09-09 11:26 AM |
#34 |
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OK |
Le Taz Hot |
Mar-09-09 11:28 AM |
#38 |
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Ever wonder why the article would use the word "palace" as opposed to "office/housing complex"? |
devilgrrl |
Mar-09-09 11:31 AM |
#41 |
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Because his residence is called "Miraflores Palace?" |
Occam Bandage |
Mar-09-09 11:43 AM |
#50 |
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An excellent point! |
endarkenment |
Mar-09-09 11:57 AM |
#63 |
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Yup, exactly. NT |
hendo |
Mar-09-09 12:00 PM |
#67 |
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So he should have spent even more money on a new residence? |
endarkenment |
Mar-09-09 12:06 PM |
#70 |
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Of course not. Rather, he shouldn't claim to be a man of the people, |
Occam Bandage |
Mar-09-09 12:25 PM |
#81 |
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Just as Obama should not claim to represent the people, because |
RaleighNCDUer |
Mar-09-09 01:34 PM |
#100 |
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The question was simply why the news media would call it a "palace." nt |
Occam Bandage |
Mar-09-09 12:11 PM |
#73 |
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Fortunately my browser shows many of your posts in a thread. |
endarkenment |
Mar-09-09 12:14 PM |
#74 |
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But does not, apparently, allow you to reply to the one you wished to reply to? |
Occam Bandage |
Mar-09-09 12:20 PM |
#78 |
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Do you know anything about the history of the region? |
endarkenment |
Mar-09-09 12:36 PM |
#86 |
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you mean the history of corrupt politicians in S. America? |
hendo |
Mar-09-09 02:38 PM |
#115 |
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No actually I was referring to the 'oligarchy' reference. |
endarkenment |
Mar-09-09 03:15 PM |
#126 |
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hendo has done that all over this thread, hoping that no one understands |
EFerrari |
Mar-09-09 05:40 PM |
#154 |
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Cool. Please show some evidence of corruption. |
EFerrari |
Mar-09-09 05:33 PM |
#153 |
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Actually, that would be Palacio Miraflores - |
RaleighNCDUer |
Mar-09-09 01:31 PM |
#99 |
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You realize Chavez is the President of Venezuela, right? |
HiFructosePronSyrup |
Mar-09-09 11:25 AM |
#33 |
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My goddess! |
Le Taz Hot |
Mar-09-09 11:35 AM |
#45 |
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The Presidential residence in many countries is called a "palace" |
no name no slogan |
Mar-09-09 12:42 PM |
#89 |
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what's the white house? |
Hannah Bell |
Mar-09-09 01:23 PM |
#94 |
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The white house is also a palace. nt |
RaleighNCDUer |
Mar-09-09 01:29 PM |
#98 |
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It's the presidential palace, the one he was trapped in during the coup against him |
killbotfactory |
Mar-09-09 01:54 PM |
# |
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I think that's been the case |
Dorian Gray |
Mar-09-09 02:58 PM |
#120 |
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Not so interesting. |
wolfgangmo |
Mar-10-09 06:44 AM |
#214 |
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Hugo Chavez eats children and uses tobacco - He the devil. |
devilgrrl |
Mar-09-09 11:15 AM |
#16 |
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Viva Hugo! He is a man of the people who cares only for the welfare |
cali |
Mar-09-09 11:16 AM |
#21 |
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there you go, stirring the pot |
hendo |
Mar-09-09 11:18 AM |
#23 |
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well, yes. |
cali |
Mar-09-09 11:20 AM |
#25 |
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Isn't that called "trolling?" |
HiFructosePronSyrup |
Mar-09-09 11:26 AM |
#35 |
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not quite |
hendo |
Mar-09-09 11:49 AM |
#57 |
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He evil - just like Ayatollah Khomeini and Kim Jong Il |
devilgrrl |
Mar-09-09 12:16 PM |
#76 |
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Prove your contention that he is a dictator. nt |
RaleighNCDUer |
Mar-09-09 01:36 PM |
#101 |
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Oh. My. God. |
rosesaylavee |
Mar-09-09 07:27 PM |
#177 |
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He want to take over the planet earth - and rule for the rest of time ala Ferdinand Marcos |
devilgrrl |
Mar-09-09 11:20 AM |
#26 |
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Anyone up for a DU meetup in Venezuela? I am. |
roody |
Mar-10-09 12:28 AM |
#202 |
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if you come from the latin american upper class |
maxsolomon |
Mar-09-09 11:15 AM |
#17 |
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My opinion on Chavez swings back and forth, depending on the day |
AyanEva |
Mar-09-09 11:16 AM |
#19 |
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I think it's possible that |
Occam Bandage |
Mar-09-09 11:49 AM |
#58 |
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Please identify his "power grab". nt |
RaleighNCDUer |
Mar-09-09 01:38 PM |
#102 |
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I think both - he cares about the poor after his own fashion, he just doesn't understand economics |
Donald Ian Rankin |
Mar-09-09 12:48 PM |
#92 |
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I think you may be on to something. |
AyanEva |
Mar-09-09 01:42 PM |
#103 |
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Chavez is nowhere near as bad as Castro. |
Donald Ian Rankin |
Mar-09-09 06:13 PM |
#162 |
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Anyone up for a DU Cuba meetup? I am. |
roody |
Mar-10-09 12:30 AM |
#203 |
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Perhaps he should take an economics lesson from our experts. |
endarkenment |
Mar-09-09 03:19 PM |
#127 |
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Dupe, delete |
Donald Ian Rankin |
Mar-09-09 06:12 PM |
#161 |
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Yes, he should |
Donald Ian Rankin |
Mar-09-09 06:15 PM |
#163 |
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Hugo Chavez is Pinochet, the Saudis, Saddam Hussein, Osama Bin Laden all rolled into one. |
devilgrrl |
Mar-09-09 11:23 AM |
#29 |
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edit: errant post, sorry |
AyanEva |
Mar-09-09 03:27 PM |
#129 |
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Chavez killed private enterprise.... he scare me. |
devilgrrl |
Mar-09-09 11:25 AM |
#32 |
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Is this like quoting an Iraqi/Cuban exile? Do we know where Alonso's coming from here? |
jpgray |
Mar-09-09 11:29 AM |
#39 |
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Yes, we know where she's coming from. See my post #119 upthread: |
struggle4progress |
Mar-09-09 03:05 PM |
#124 |
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Apparently, some of us have no access to The Google. n/t |
EFerrari |
Mar-09-09 05:56 PM |
#159 |
| -
Hugo Chavez ate my cat! |
endarkenment |
Mar-09-09 11:34 AM |
#43 |
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No. He ate my cat! |
devilgrrl |
Mar-09-09 11:35 AM |
#46 |
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Hugo Chavez Ate My Cat And All I Got Were These 25 Crappy DVDs! |
endarkenment |
Mar-09-09 11:37 AM |
#48 |
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He ate my cat and wrapped it's carcass in a lousy t-shirt. |
devilgrrl |
Mar-09-09 12:18 PM |
#77 |
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Another good reason to ignore celebrities and their outsized yappers**nm |
misanthrope |
Mar-09-09 11:56 AM |
#62 |
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Which one? |
distantearlywarning |
Mar-09-09 11:58 AM |
#65 |
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Well, in this case Penn |
hendo |
Mar-09-09 12:01 PM |
#68 |
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Actually she's of the rich Elite...they ALL hate Chavez because he educated the poor. |
vaberella |
Mar-10-09 06:12 AM |
#211 |
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talk about skewed. they hate cause educated poor? really? all the stuff |
seabeyond |
Mar-10-09 07:03 AM |
#217 |
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Why post if you don't care? |
vaberella |
Mar-10-09 07:50 AM |
#218 |
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it isnt chaves, venzuala.... it is absurdity or dishonesty in post that draws my attention |
seabeyond |
Mar-10-09 08:38 AM |
#221 |
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Both your posts are nonsensical and the fact that you give an incoherent post |
vaberella |
Mar-10-09 11:46 AM |
#222 |
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i think it is all quite clear. you say rich angry cause poor educated. all the shit |
seabeyond |
Mar-10-09 12:28 PM |
#227 |
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Take your pick**nm |
misanthrope |
Mar-10-09 01:31 AM |
#207 |
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She weakens her case by overstating it. Chavez is a nasty piece of work, but not a dictator. |
Donald Ian Rankin |
Mar-09-09 12:10 PM |
#72 |
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Who doesn't overstate their case with Chavez? |
Occam Bandage |
Mar-09-09 12:14 PM |
#75 |
| -
Don't forget the fact that he eats babies. NT |
hendo |
Mar-09-09 12:22 PM |
#79 |
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chavez is a nasty piece of work? why? because the |
ellenfl |
Mar-09-09 12:33 PM |
#84 |
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Some links from various sources. |
Donald Ian Rankin |
Mar-09-09 12:45 PM |
#90 |
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i am not defending chavez, per se, just not going along |
ellenfl |
Mar-09-09 02:25 PM |
#110 |
| -
yeah, Chavez has lost the plot. So sad... |
upi402 |
Mar-09-09 02:36 PM |
#112 |
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What case? She called him names and told Sean Penn to shut up. |
EFerrari |
Mar-09-09 03:29 PM |
#130 |
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So who did he kill? The article doesn't follow up. It was also critical of |
Cleita |
Mar-09-09 12:31 PM |
#83 |
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Don't you get it? It doesn't matter |
RufusTFirefly |
Mar-09-09 03:36 PM |
#131 |
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It amazes me that the headline is a right wing actress telling Sean Penn to shut up |
EFerrari |
Mar-09-09 03:40 PM |
#133 |
| -
that's about it |
G_j |
Mar-09-09 05:18 PM |
#151 |
| -
Agreed. This is weird. |
rosesaylavee |
Mar-09-09 07:32 PM |
#178 |
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He is not as bad as some say and not as good as some people praise him for being either |
Jennicut |
Mar-09-09 12:41 PM |
#87 |
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The thing is, you never hear about the good stuff he's done. |
EFerrari |
Mar-09-09 06:58 PM |
#171 |
| -
Only right wing actors are allowed to have opinions about stuff |
killbotfactory |
Mar-09-09 01:43 PM |
#104 |
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Seriously. LOL. n/t |
EFerrari |
Mar-09-09 01:45 PM |
#105 |
| -
The hypocrisy line is ridiculous. |
Radical Activist |
Mar-09-09 01:54 PM |
#107 |
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She has the first hand experience of her class trying to overthrow |
EFerrari |
Mar-09-09 02:09 PM |
#109 |
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In the 1920s and 1930s everyone knew what was going on under Stalin and Lenin. |
JackRiddler |
Mar-09-09 04:09 PM |
#139 |
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I really don't believe |
Radical Activist |
Mar-09-09 05:05 PM |
#143 |
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Well I remember it well, young man... |
JackRiddler |
Mar-09-09 05:08 PM |
#146 |
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Really |
Radical Activist |
Mar-09-09 05:16 PM |
#150 |
| -
Nah, relax. |
JackRiddler |
Mar-09-09 05:52 PM |
#157 |
| -
But what does Britney Spears think of Obama? Inquiring minds want to know. |
JackRiddler |
Mar-09-09 01:59 PM |
#108 |
| -
Damn straight we do!! |
hendo |
Mar-09-09 02:47 PM |
#116 |
| -
Actually, I disagree a bit... |
JackRiddler |
Mar-09-09 04:06 PM |
#137 |
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You are posting your opinions |
tkmorris |
Mar-09-09 04:06 PM |
#138 |
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Unlike them |
hendo |
Mar-09-09 05:46 PM |
#155 |
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No, it just means their opinions draw more attention |
tkmorris |
Mar-09-09 07:33 PM |
#179 |
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That's about the right reaction: María Conchita Alonso is desperately seeking attention |
struggle4progress |
Mar-09-09 09:04 PM |
#184 |
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That douchebag reporter first needs to get his facts straight - |
bullwinkle428 |
Mar-09-09 03:01 PM |
#122 |
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Rich Venezuelans hate his guts, which is why I put up with him. nt |
anonymous171 |
Mar-09-09 03:08 PM |
#125 |
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It seems one's opinion of Chavez is determined (in Venezuela) almost |
Kitty Herder |
Mar-09-09 03:49 PM |
#136 |
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2008: ACTRESS MARIA CONCHITA ALONSO ENDORSES JOHN McCAIN |
JackRiddler |
Mar-09-09 04:13 PM |
#140 |
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but of course - |
endarkenment |
Mar-09-09 04:16 PM |
#141 |
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LOL |
EFerrari |
Mar-09-09 05:16 PM |
#149 |
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I used to just dislike her. Now I fucking hate her. nt |
anonymous171 |
Mar-09-09 09:57 PM |
#189 |
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Her brother, Roberto Alonso, is one of the biggest right-wing tools... |
anaxarchos |
Mar-10-09 12:31 AM |
#204 |
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It's so bizarre because this is ALWAYS the way these stories turn out. |
EFerrari |
Mar-10-09 12:34 AM |
#205 |
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Too bad more people aren't aware that Alonso, a big McCain supporter |
Judi Lynn |
Mar-10-09 05:19 AM |
#208 |
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I love Sean Penn, but I can't agree with him on Chavez. n/t |
cynatnite |
Mar-09-09 05:13 PM |
#147 |
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Who cares what some spoiled-bitch-in-exile thinks about the world's cuddliest demagogue? |
bird gerhl |
Mar-09-09 06:16 PM |
#164 |
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Charleton Heston must have been unavailable. |
EFerrari |
Mar-09-09 06:21 PM |
#167 |
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Chavez is both a hero and a villain |
Taverner |
Mar-09-09 06:19 PM |
#166 |
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Did you forget the smiley? |
EFerrari |
Mar-09-09 06:22 PM |
#168 |
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No - and let me put it this way - he is corrupting in the same direction as Mugabe |
Taverner |
Mar-09-09 07:33 PM |
#180 |
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Except there is no evidence whatsoever that he's tortured anyone. |
EFerrari |
Mar-09-09 07:46 PM |
#182 |
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Today's magic scare phrase: MUGABE! |
JackRiddler |
Mar-09-09 11:31 PM |
#194 |
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FTR - please document your allegation of 'tortures dissidents'. |
endarkenment |
Mar-09-09 07:01 PM |
#173 |
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How many people has Chavez killed? |
conscious evolution |
Mar-09-09 06:26 PM |
#169 |
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How the fuck do the so-called liberals in this site... |
Eryemil |
Mar-09-09 06:30 PM |
#170 |
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We have a cohort of rabid anti socialists. |
endarkenment |
Mar-09-09 06:58 PM |
#172 |
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stimulus - response |
JackRiddler |
Mar-09-09 08:26 PM |
#183 |
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I don't think it's socialism. It looks more like the idea of a little brown guy |
EFerrari |
Mar-10-09 12:14 AM |
#200 |
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You? missing something? Not likely. |
endarkenment |
Mar-10-09 08:27 AM |
#219 |
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Since when do progressives walk in lock-step like the repukes? |
cynatnite |
Mar-09-09 09:06 PM |
#185 |
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Then at least have the decency to be honest about the reasons... |
Eryemil |
Mar-09-09 09:25 PM |
#186 |
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There are a lot of questionable actions he's taken and people have a right to be critical... |
cynatnite |
Mar-09-09 09:50 PM |
#187 |
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What's worth more, baseless accussations and personal feelings |
Eryemil |
Mar-09-09 10:03 PM |
#191 |
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I didn't think it was necessary to post links since this stuff has been discussed... |
cynatnite |
Mar-09-09 10:26 PM |
#192 |
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"You outright dismissed my entire post because you didn't like the content" |
Eryemil |
Mar-09-09 10:48 PM |
#193 |
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The elections in Venezuela are conducted on more transparent systems |
EFerrari |
Mar-10-09 12:40 AM |
#206 |
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What is progressive about taking the word of a right wing celebrity |
EFerrari |
Mar-09-09 09:55 PM |
#188 |
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I wasn't even talking about Maria... |
cynatnite |
Mar-09-09 09:59 PM |
#190 |
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Sure and they don't like him because propaganda works. |
EFerrari |
Mar-09-09 11:40 PM |
#195 |
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'a dictator and a killer" |
LynnTheDem |
Mar-09-09 11:54 PM |
#197 |
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I saw the Revolution Will Not be Televised...Ms. Alanso is a Repub lover. |
vaberella |
Mar-10-09 06:11 AM |
#210 |
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good |
pnutbutr |
Mar-10-09 06:14 AM |
#212 |
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she is an idiot a repuke and a tool |
leftchick |
Mar-10-09 06:49 AM |
#215 |
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Maria Conchita Alonso should SHUT UP about what she doesn't know about. |
Joanne98 |
Mar-10-09 12:13 PM |
#225 |
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There is a huge racial component to this that many overlook |
RufusTFirefly |
Mar-10-09 12:25 PM |
#226 |
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YES! Finally, some else is saying it. n|t |
Eryemil |
Mar-10-09 04:43 PM |
#230 |
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