| 53. How dare you attack Saint Chavez |
| -"Shut up about Chavez the killer," Venezuelan co-star tells Sean Penn. |
Occam Bandage |
Mar-09-09 10:58 AM |
#0 |
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I think Chavez is a hero of the poor. |
ananda |
Mar-09-09 11:00 AM |
#1 |
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Some of us don't believe in political heros and think it's dangerous to |
cali |
Mar-09-09 11:02 AM |
#3 |
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Edit: Hero worship isn't really the same as admiration for a track record. |
EFerrari |
Mar-09-09 05:58 PM |
#160 |
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uh, the poster said she thinks he's a hero. |
cali |
Mar-10-09 06:16 AM |
#213 |
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Pull the other one, it's got bells on. |
LeftyMom |
Mar-09-09 07:34 PM |
#181 |
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Really??? |
MicaelS |
Mar-09-09 11:04 AM |
#4 |
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A friend who went to Venezuela said he is treated like a rock star. |
roody |
Mar-10-09 12:11 AM |
#199 |
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I think Chavez is a politician with some good policies, some bad policies, |
Occam Bandage |
Mar-09-09 11:05 AM |
#6 |
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All too often, our demonization of "dictators" is tragically self-fulfilling |
RufusTFirefly |
Mar-09-09 11:26 AM |
#36 |
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It is, yes. Isolation only justifies the claims of radical elements in a country. |
Occam Bandage |
Mar-09-09 11:34 AM |
#44 |
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It's actually very hard to be a leftist President in South America because |
Cleita |
Mar-09-09 12:33 PM |
#85 |
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actually because you are likely to be shot by the CIA. |
endarkenment |
Mar-10-09 08:31 AM |
#220 |
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a hero of the poor? |
hendo |
Mar-09-09 11:14 AM |
#15 |
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The political opposition is alive and well in Venezuela |
endarkenment |
Mar-09-09 11:32 AM |
#42 |
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I think Mao did stand for the poor, to an extent that few "people's" dictators have. |
Occam Bandage |
Mar-09-09 11:41 AM |
#49 |
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Oh, Mao definitely did stand for the poor |
hendo |
Mar-09-09 11:52 AM |
#59 |
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Pretty much, yes. |
Occam Bandage |
Mar-09-09 11:59 AM |
#66 |
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To answer your question in Chinese |
hendo |
Mar-09-09 12:05 PM |
#69 |
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Never mind that the opposition is the wealthiest 5% - |
RaleighNCDUer |
Mar-09-09 01:17 PM |
#93 |
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It's a larger opposition than that |
hendo |
Mar-09-09 02:35 PM |
#111 |
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How much did he win the referendum by? Five, ten points? |
EFerrari |
Mar-09-09 02:59 PM |
#121 |
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Yes, because pointing to the legislature for examples of legitimate rule |
hendo |
Mar-09-09 05:50 PM |
#156 |
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Nope. I'm pointing to the vote. The legislature has nothing to do with it. |
EFerrari |
Mar-09-09 06:18 PM |
#165 |
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OK, it is PRIMARILY the 5% former oligarchs and the industries they |
RaleighNCDUer |
Mar-09-09 03:26 PM |
#128 |
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Thank-you. |
robinlynne |
Mar-09-09 07:22 PM |
#175 |
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Since when is an actual democratically elected leader who goes through official channels |
Kitty Herder |
Mar-09-09 03:42 PM |
#134 |
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Most of Venezuela agrees with you, as do I. |
robinlynne |
Mar-09-09 07:24 PM |
#176 |
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lol. |
cali |
Mar-09-09 11:01 AM |
#2 |
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There are no absolutes in this. |
Ikonoklast |
Mar-09-09 11:04 AM |
#5 |
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A hero to some, a villain to others |
marshall |
Mar-09-09 04:38 PM |
#142 |
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is this has his supporters excuse his killing gays... i dont know |
seabeyond |
Mar-10-09 06:55 AM |
#216 |
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When has he ever killed gays? |
Truth2Tell |
Mar-10-09 11:56 AM |
#223 |
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Heh. By that reasoning, the PM of Spain is a killer. |
Commie Pinko Dirtbag |
Mar-10-09 12:41 PM |
#228 |
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For that matter, I can't even find any evidence that CASTRO |
Truth2Tell |
Mar-10-09 01:26 PM |
#229 |
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Maria Conchita Alonso |
RufusTFirefly |
Mar-09-09 11:06 AM |
#7 |
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So basically a refuge with money siding with the Republicans. |
YOY |
Mar-09-09 11:19 AM |
#24 |
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It's funny to watch people engaging in thuggish labelling of the opposition |
Occam Bandage |
Mar-09-09 11:24 AM |
#30 |
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Oh he's no angel. |
YOY |
Mar-09-09 11:26 AM |
# |
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I agree. Actually, I confess I find the whole thing somewhat strange. Chavez seems so... |
Occam Bandage |
Mar-09-09 11:30 AM |
#40 |
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Much like any dictator he will go away after he "goes stale". |
YOY |
Mar-09-09 11:36 AM |
#47 |
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When the opposition decides to trust to elections instead of CIA funded |
RaleighNCDUer |
Mar-09-09 01:24 PM |
#95 |
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It's not about "maturity" of any ideology |
YOY |
Mar-09-09 05:07 PM |
#145 |
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Salvador Allende was demonized also by the elite and American interests |
Cleita |
Mar-09-09 12:26 PM |
#82 |
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Indeed. The pattern repeats and repeats and repeats |
RufusTFirefly |
Mar-09-09 01:27 PM |
#97 |
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they took care of him alright! RIP n/t |
G_j |
Mar-09-09 05:15 PM |
#148 |
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He seems to need constant attention |
NeedleCast |
Mar-09-09 12:42 PM |
#88 |
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It's actually the other way around. Notice that Chavez didn't write this article. |
EFerrari |
Mar-09-09 03:39 PM |
#132 |
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Put your shingle out as a Chavez-hating, climate-change denying, Iraq War apologist... |
RufusTFirefly |
Mar-09-09 05:05 PM |
#144 |
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It's remarkable the way they frame him to look like an attention whore |
EFerrari |
Mar-09-09 05:31 PM |
#152 |
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But of course |
hendo |
Mar-09-09 11:57 AM |
#64 |
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You mean, the McCain supporting guest of Hannity and O'Reilly? |
EFerrari |
Mar-09-09 05:54 PM |
#158 |
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Understanding María Conchita Alonso's biases is essential for proper interpretation of her comments: |
struggle4progress |
Mar-09-09 02:57 PM |
#119 |
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Ms. Alonso and her brother are not totally disinterested bystanders are they? |
rosesaylavee |
Mar-09-09 07:19 PM |
#174 |
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Calling O'Reilly and Hannity "Republicans" |
Truth2Tell |
Mar-10-09 12:05 PM |
#224 |
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Don't forget she co-starred with Arnie in The Running Man. |
OnyxCollie |
Mar-09-09 12:47 PM |
#91 |
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Republicans start foaming at the mouth when they think of leftist performers, |
Judi Lynn |
Mar-10-09 06:07 AM |
#209 |
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Her brother, Roberto Alonso, is the leading proponent of "guarimba," which means violent protest. |
Judi Lynn |
Mar-09-09 02:52 PM |
#118 |
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That explains a lot. nt |
Kitty Herder |
Mar-09-09 03:42 PM |
#135 |
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The article doesn't mention that she was actually born in Cuba in 1957. |
Tanuki |
Mar-09-09 11:08 AM |
#8 |
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Yes, I suppose she is most likely an enemy of the revolution. |
Occam Bandage |
Mar-09-09 11:11 AM |
#10 |
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She moved when she was 5 years old |
hendo |
Mar-09-09 11:12 AM |
#11 |
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Chavez is not a good guy |
hendo |
Mar-09-09 11:10 AM |
#9 |
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A quite Large portion of Venezuela might disagree |
Winterblues |
Mar-09-09 11:22 AM |
# |
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So what you are saying is that the fact that Bush was elected by a majority of US voters |
distantearlywarning |
Mar-09-09 11:44 AM |
#51 |
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Bush didn't even get a plurality in 2000. nt |
Occam Bandage |
Mar-09-09 11:45 AM |
#52 |
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However, in 2004 he got a solid majority. NT |
hendo |
Mar-09-09 11:46 AM |
#54 |
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Certainly. Strong evidence against the claim that a popular vote |
Occam Bandage |
Mar-09-09 11:48 AM |
#56 |
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I'm not really sure that Bush would count as a dictator |
hendo |
Mar-09-09 11:55 AM |
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Depends on what we mean by "dictator." |
Occam Bandage |
Mar-09-09 12:10 PM |
#71 |
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No, he didn't. |
RaleighNCDUer |
Mar-09-09 01:26 PM |
#96 |
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take off your tin foil hat |
hendo |
Mar-09-09 02:36 PM |
#113 |
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The Carter Center validated the Venezuelan elections - |
RaleighNCDUer |
Mar-09-09 03:04 PM |
#123 |
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Oh, yes, I see now! |
distantearlywarning |
Mar-09-09 11:53 AM |
#60 |
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How dare you attack Saint Chavez |
hendo |
Mar-09-09 11:45 AM |
#53 |
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Yeah, I don't know what I was thinking. |
distantearlywarning |
Mar-09-09 11:55 AM |
#61 |
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Venezuela votes on diebold with paper receipts |
Fireweed247 |
Mar-09-09 01:50 PM |
#106 |
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Which works wonders |
hendo |
Mar-09-09 02:37 PM |
#114 |
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Except they use open source software and their elections are monitored |
EFerrari |
Mar-09-09 02:51 PM |
#117 |
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...AND 55% handcount audit !!! |
bvar22 |
Mar-09-09 11:53 PM |
#196 |
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We should just buy ad space from Skinner: "Don't even ask about Venezuelan elections |
EFerrari |
Mar-10-09 12:09 AM |
#198 |
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How do you know that? I think I would be his lover if he would ever |
roody |
Mar-10-09 12:19 AM |
#201 |
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British journalism is really in decline |
wuushew |
Mar-09-09 11:12 AM |
#12 |
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the media has always been biased |
hendo |
Mar-09-09 11:16 AM |
#18 |
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I used to think perhaps Chavez was good for Venezuela... |
liberalmuse |
Mar-09-09 11:14 AM |
#13 |
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i, too, take any propaganda from (north) american media |
ellenfl |
Mar-09-09 12:23 PM |
#80 |
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I confess to not knowing who is right in the |
Le Taz Hot |
Mar-09-09 11:14 AM |
#14 |
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a good dictator always has a lavish palace to live within. NT |
hendo |
Mar-09-09 11:16 AM |
#20 |
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Hugo Chavez's palace has gold plated toilet seats and chicks with feather fans... |
devilgrrl |
Mar-09-09 11:17 AM |
#22 |
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Well, I didn't see anything about gold plated |
Le Taz Hot |
Mar-09-09 11:22 AM |
#27 |
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Mr. Chavez does live ostentatiously for a man who claims to be of the people. nt |
Occam Bandage |
Mar-09-09 11:22 AM |
#28 |
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I hear he has a really huge collection of shoes.... like 10,000 pairs or something. |
devilgrrl |
Mar-09-09 11:28 AM |
#37 |
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ROFL |
On the Road |
Mar-09-09 11:48 AM |
#55 |
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"The Palace" is an office/housing complex much like the White House is. |
ret5hd |
Mar-09-09 11:24 AM |
#31 |
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I hear that it has a built-in pool constructed out of human skulls!!!!!! |
devilgrrl |
Mar-09-09 11:26 AM |
#34 |
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OK |
Le Taz Hot |
Mar-09-09 11:28 AM |
#38 |
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Ever wonder why the article would use the word "palace" as opposed to "office/housing complex"? |
devilgrrl |
Mar-09-09 11:31 AM |
#41 |
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Because his residence is called "Miraflores Palace?" |
Occam Bandage |
Mar-09-09 11:43 AM |
#50 |
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An excellent point! |
endarkenment |
Mar-09-09 11:57 AM |
#63 |
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Yup, exactly. NT |
hendo |
Mar-09-09 12:00 PM |
#67 |
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So he should have spent even more money on a new residence? |
endarkenment |
Mar-09-09 12:06 PM |
#70 |
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Of course not. Rather, he shouldn't claim to be a man of the people, |
Occam Bandage |
Mar-09-09 12:25 PM |
#81 |
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Just as Obama should not claim to represent the people, because |
RaleighNCDUer |
Mar-09-09 01:34 PM |
#100 |
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The question was simply why the news media would call it a "palace." nt |
Occam Bandage |
Mar-09-09 12:11 PM |
#73 |
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Fortunately my browser shows many of your posts in a thread. |
endarkenment |
Mar-09-09 12:14 PM |
#74 |
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But does not, apparently, allow you to reply to the one you wished to reply to? |
Occam Bandage |
Mar-09-09 12:20 PM |
#78 |
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Do you know anything about the history of the region? |
endarkenment |
Mar-09-09 12:36 PM |
#86 |
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you mean the history of corrupt politicians in S. America? |
hendo |
Mar-09-09 02:38 PM |
#115 |
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No actually I was referring to the 'oligarchy' reference. |
endarkenment |
Mar-09-09 03:15 PM |
#126 |
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hendo has done that all over this thread, hoping that no one understands |
EFerrari |
Mar-09-09 05:40 PM |
#154 |
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Cool. Please show some evidence of corruption. |
EFerrari |
Mar-09-09 05:33 PM |
#153 |
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Actually, that would be Palacio Miraflores - |
RaleighNCDUer |
Mar-09-09 01:31 PM |
#99 |
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You realize Chavez is the President of Venezuela, right? |
HiFructosePronSyrup |
Mar-09-09 11:25 AM |
#33 |
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My goddess! |
Le Taz Hot |
Mar-09-09 11:35 AM |
#45 |
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The Presidential residence in many countries is called a "palace" |
no name no slogan |
Mar-09-09 12:42 PM |
#89 |
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what's the white house? |
Hannah Bell |
Mar-09-09 01:23 PM |
#94 |
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The white house is also a palace. nt |
RaleighNCDUer |
Mar-09-09 01:29 PM |
#98 |
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It's the presidential palace, the one he was trapped in during the coup against him |
killbotfactory |
Mar-09-09 01:54 PM |
# |
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I think that's been the case |
Dorian Gray |
Mar-09-09 02:58 PM |
#120 |
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Not so interesting. |
wolfgangmo |
Mar-10-09 06:44 AM |
#214 |
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Hugo Chavez eats children and uses tobacco - He the devil. |
devilgrrl |
Mar-09-09 11:15 AM |
#16 |
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Viva Hugo! He is a man of the people who cares only for the welfare |
cali |
Mar-09-09 11:16 AM |
#21 |
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there you go, stirring the pot |
hendo |
Mar-09-09 11:18 AM |
#23 |
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well, yes. |
cali |
Mar-09-09 11:20 AM |
#25 |
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Isn't that called "trolling?" |
HiFructosePronSyrup |
Mar-09-09 11:26 AM |
#35 |
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not quite |
hendo |
Mar-09-09 11:49 AM |
#57 |
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He evil - just like Ayatollah Khomeini and Kim Jong Il |
devilgrrl |
Mar-09-09 12:16 PM |
#76 |
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Prove your contention that he is a dictator. nt |
RaleighNCDUer |
Mar-09-09 01:36 PM |
#101 |
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Oh. My. God. |
rosesaylavee |
Mar-09-09 07:27 PM |
#177 |
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He want to take over the planet earth - and rule for the rest of time ala Ferdinand Marcos |
devilgrrl |
Mar-09-09 11:20 AM |
#26 |
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Anyone up for a DU meetup in Venezuela? I am. |
roody |
Mar-10-09 12:28 AM |
#202 |
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if you come from the latin american upper class |
maxsolomon |
Mar-09-09 11:15 AM |
#17 |
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My opinion on Chavez swings back and forth, depending on the day |
AyanEva |
Mar-09-09 11:16 AM |
#19 |
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I think it's possible that |
Occam Bandage |
Mar-09-09 11:49 AM |
#58 |
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Please identify his "power grab". nt |
RaleighNCDUer |
Mar-09-09 01:38 PM |
#102 |
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I think both - he cares about the poor after his own fashion, he just doesn't understand economics |
Donald Ian Rankin |
Mar-09-09 12:48 PM |
#92 |
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I think you may be on to something. |
AyanEva |
Mar-09-09 01:42 PM |
#103 |
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Chavez is nowhere near as bad as Castro. |
Donald Ian Rankin |
Mar-09-09 06:13 PM |
#162 |
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Anyone up for a DU Cuba meetup? I am. |
roody |
Mar-10-09 12:30 AM |
#203 |
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Perhaps he should take an economics lesson from our experts. |
endarkenment |
Mar-09-09 03:19 PM |
#127 |
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Dupe, delete |
Donald Ian Rankin |
Mar-09-09 06:12 PM |
#161 |
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Yes, he should |
Donald Ian Rankin |
Mar-09-09 06:15 PM |
#163 |
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Hugo Chavez is Pinochet, the Saudis, Saddam Hussein, Osama Bin Laden all rolled into one. |
devilgrrl |
Mar-09-09 11:23 AM |
#29 |
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edit: errant post, sorry |
AyanEva |
Mar-09-09 03:27 PM |
#129 |
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Chavez killed private enterprise.... he scare me. |
devilgrrl |
Mar-09-09 11:25 AM |
#32 |
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Is this like quoting an Iraqi/Cuban exile? Do we know where Alonso's coming from here? |
jpgray |
Mar-09-09 11:29 AM |
#39 |
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Yes, we know where she's coming from. See my post #119 upthread: |
struggle4progress |
Mar-09-09 03:05 PM |
#124 |
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Apparently, some of us have no access to The Google. n/t |
EFerrari |
Mar-09-09 05:56 PM |
#159 |
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Hugo Chavez ate my cat! |
endarkenment |
Mar-09-09 11:34 AM |
#43 |
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No. He ate my cat! |
devilgrrl |
Mar-09-09 11:35 AM |
#46 |
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Hugo Chavez Ate My Cat And All I Got Were These 25 Crappy DVDs! |
endarkenment |
Mar-09-09 11:37 AM |
#48 |
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He ate my cat and wrapped it's carcass in a lousy t-shirt. |
devilgrrl |
Mar-09-09 12:18 PM |
#77 |
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Another good reason to ignore celebrities and their outsized yappers**nm |
misanthrope |
Mar-09-09 11:56 AM |
#62 |
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Which one? |
distantearlywarning |
Mar-09-09 11:58 AM |
#65 |
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Well, in this case Penn |
hendo |
Mar-09-09 12:01 PM |
#68 |
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Actually she's of the rich Elite...they ALL hate Chavez because he educated the poor. |
vaberella |
Mar-10-09 06:12 AM |
#211 |
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talk about skewed. they hate cause educated poor? really? all the stuff |
seabeyond |
Mar-10-09 07:03 AM |
#217 |
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Why post if you don't care? |
vaberella |
Mar-10-09 07:50 AM |
#218 |
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it isnt chaves, venzuala.... it is absurdity or dishonesty in post that draws my attention |
seabeyond |
Mar-10-09 08:38 AM |
#221 |
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Both your posts are nonsensical and the fact that you give an incoherent post |
vaberella |
Mar-10-09 11:46 AM |
#222 |
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i think it is all quite clear. you say rich angry cause poor educated. all the shit |
seabeyond |
Mar-10-09 12:28 PM |
#227 |
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Take your pick**nm |
misanthrope |
Mar-10-09 01:31 AM |
#207 |
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She weakens her case by overstating it. Chavez is a nasty piece of work, but not a dictator. |
Donald Ian Rankin |
Mar-09-09 12:10 PM |
#72 |
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Who doesn't overstate their case with Chavez? |
Occam Bandage |
Mar-09-09 12:14 PM |
#75 |
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Don't forget the fact that he eats babies. NT |
hendo |
Mar-09-09 12:22 PM |
#79 |
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chavez is a nasty piece of work? why? because the |
ellenfl |
Mar-09-09 12:33 PM |
#84 |
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Some links from various sources. |
Donald Ian Rankin |
Mar-09-09 12:45 PM |
#90 |
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i am not defending chavez, per se, just not going along |
ellenfl |
Mar-09-09 02:25 PM |
#110 |
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yeah, Chavez has lost the plot. So sad... |
upi402 |
Mar-09-09 02:36 PM |
#112 |
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What case? She called him names and told Sean Penn to shut up. |
EFerrari |
Mar-09-09 03:29 PM |
#130 |
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So who did he kill? The article doesn't follow up. It was also critical of |
Cleita |
Mar-09-09 12:31 PM |
#83 |
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Don't you get it? It doesn't matter |
RufusTFirefly |
Mar-09-09 03:36 PM |
#131 |
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It amazes me that the headline is a right wing actress telling Sean Penn to shut up |
EFerrari |
Mar-09-09 03:40 PM |
#133 |
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that's about it |
G_j |
Mar-09-09 05:18 PM |
#151 |
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Agreed. This is weird. |
rosesaylavee |
Mar-09-09 07:32 PM |
#178 |
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He is not as bad as some say and not as good as some people praise him for being either |
Jennicut |
Mar-09-09 12:41 PM |
#87 |
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The thing is, you never hear about the good stuff he's done. |
EFerrari |
Mar-09-09 06:58 PM |
#171 |
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Only right wing actors are allowed to have opinions about stuff |
killbotfactory |
Mar-09-09 01:43 PM |
#104 |
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Seriously. LOL. n/t |
EFerrari |
Mar-09-09 01:45 PM |
#105 |
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The hypocrisy line is ridiculous. |
Radical Activist |
Mar-09-09 01:54 PM |
#107 |
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She has the first hand experience of her class trying to overthrow |
EFerrari |
Mar-09-09 02:09 PM |
#109 |
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In the 1920s and 1930s everyone knew what was going on under Stalin and Lenin. |
JackRiddler |
Mar-09-09 04:09 PM |
#139 |
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I really don't believe |
Radical Activist |
Mar-09-09 05:05 PM |
#143 |
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Well I remember it well, young man... |
JackRiddler |
Mar-09-09 05:08 PM |
#146 |
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Really |
Radical Activist |
Mar-09-09 05:16 PM |
#150 |
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Nah, relax. |
JackRiddler |
Mar-09-09 05:52 PM |
#157 |
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But what does Britney Spears think of Obama? Inquiring minds want to know. |
JackRiddler |
Mar-09-09 01:59 PM |
#108 |
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Damn straight we do!! |
hendo |
Mar-09-09 02:47 PM |
#116 |
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Actually, I disagree a bit... |
JackRiddler |
Mar-09-09 04:06 PM |
#137 |
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You are posting your opinions |
tkmorris |
Mar-09-09 04:06 PM |
#138 |
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Unlike them |
hendo |
Mar-09-09 05:46 PM |
#155 |
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No, it just means their opinions draw more attention |
tkmorris |
Mar-09-09 07:33 PM |
#179 |
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That's about the right reaction: María Conchita Alonso is desperately seeking attention |
struggle4progress |
Mar-09-09 09:04 PM |
#184 |
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That douchebag reporter first needs to get his facts straight - |
bullwinkle428 |
Mar-09-09 03:01 PM |
#122 |
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Rich Venezuelans hate his guts, which is why I put up with him. nt |
anonymous171 |
Mar-09-09 03:08 PM |
#125 |
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It seems one's opinion of Chavez is determined (in Venezuela) almost |
Kitty Herder |
Mar-09-09 03:49 PM |
#136 |
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2008: ACTRESS MARIA CONCHITA ALONSO ENDORSES JOHN McCAIN |
JackRiddler |
Mar-09-09 04:13 PM |
#140 |
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but of course - |
endarkenment |
Mar-09-09 04:16 PM |
#141 |
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LOL |
EFerrari |
Mar-09-09 05:16 PM |
#149 |
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I used to just dislike her. Now I fucking hate her. nt |
anonymous171 |
Mar-09-09 09:57 PM |
#189 |
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Her brother, Roberto Alonso, is one of the biggest right-wing tools... |
anaxarchos |
Mar-10-09 12:31 AM |
#204 |
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It's so bizarre because this is ALWAYS the way these stories turn out. |
EFerrari |
Mar-10-09 12:34 AM |
#205 |
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Too bad more people aren't aware that Alonso, a big McCain supporter |
Judi Lynn |
Mar-10-09 05:19 AM |
#208 |
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I love Sean Penn, but I can't agree with him on Chavez. n/t |
cynatnite |
Mar-09-09 05:13 PM |
#147 |
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Who cares what some spoiled-bitch-in-exile thinks about the world's cuddliest demagogue? |
bird gerhl |
Mar-09-09 06:16 PM |
#164 |
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Charleton Heston must have been unavailable. |
EFerrari |
Mar-09-09 06:21 PM |
#167 |
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Chavez is both a hero and a villain |
Taverner |
Mar-09-09 06:19 PM |
#166 |
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Did you forget the smiley? |
EFerrari |
Mar-09-09 06:22 PM |
#168 |
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No - and let me put it this way - he is corrupting in the same direction as Mugabe |
Taverner |
Mar-09-09 07:33 PM |
#180 |
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Except there is no evidence whatsoever that he's tortured anyone. |
EFerrari |
Mar-09-09 07:46 PM |
#182 |
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Today's magic scare phrase: MUGABE! |
JackRiddler |
Mar-09-09 11:31 PM |
#194 |
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FTR - please document your allegation of 'tortures dissidents'. |
endarkenment |
Mar-09-09 07:01 PM |
#173 |
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How many people has Chavez killed? |
conscious evolution |
Mar-09-09 06:26 PM |
#169 |
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How the fuck do the so-called liberals in this site... |
Eryemil |
Mar-09-09 06:30 PM |
#170 |
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We have a cohort of rabid anti socialists. |
endarkenment |
Mar-09-09 06:58 PM |
#172 |
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stimulus - response |
JackRiddler |
Mar-09-09 08:26 PM |
#183 |
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I don't think it's socialism. It looks more like the idea of a little brown guy |
EFerrari |
Mar-10-09 12:14 AM |
#200 |
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You? missing something? Not likely. |
endarkenment |
Mar-10-09 08:27 AM |
#219 |
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Since when do progressives walk in lock-step like the repukes? |
cynatnite |
Mar-09-09 09:06 PM |
#185 |
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Then at least have the decency to be honest about the reasons... |
Eryemil |
Mar-09-09 09:25 PM |
#186 |
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There are a lot of questionable actions he's taken and people have a right to be critical... |
cynatnite |
Mar-09-09 09:50 PM |
#187 |
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What's worth more, baseless accussations and personal feelings |
Eryemil |
Mar-09-09 10:03 PM |
#191 |
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I didn't think it was necessary to post links since this stuff has been discussed... |
cynatnite |
Mar-09-09 10:26 PM |
#192 |
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"You outright dismissed my entire post because you didn't like the content" |
Eryemil |
Mar-09-09 10:48 PM |
#193 |
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The elections in Venezuela are conducted on more transparent systems |
EFerrari |
Mar-10-09 12:40 AM |
#206 |
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What is progressive about taking the word of a right wing celebrity |
EFerrari |
Mar-09-09 09:55 PM |
#188 |
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I wasn't even talking about Maria... |
cynatnite |
Mar-09-09 09:59 PM |
#190 |
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Sure and they don't like him because propaganda works. |
EFerrari |
Mar-09-09 11:40 PM |
#195 |
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'a dictator and a killer" |
LynnTheDem |
Mar-09-09 11:54 PM |
#197 |
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I saw the Revolution Will Not be Televised...Ms. Alanso is a Repub lover. |
vaberella |
Mar-10-09 06:11 AM |
#210 |
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good |
pnutbutr |
Mar-10-09 06:14 AM |
#212 |
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she is an idiot a repuke and a tool |
leftchick |
Mar-10-09 06:49 AM |
#215 |
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Maria Conchita Alonso should SHUT UP about what she doesn't know about. |
Joanne98 |
Mar-10-09 12:13 PM |
#225 |
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There is a huge racial component to this that many overlook |
RufusTFirefly |
Mar-10-09 12:25 PM |
#226 |
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YES! Finally, some else is saying it. n|t |
Eryemil |
Mar-10-09 04:43 PM |
#230 |
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