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Dorian Gray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-09-09 01:48 PM
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40. No kidding....
this whole thing just pisses me off.

The attitudes that people have shown (not on this board, but out in the real world) about this attack baffles me!

It doesn't matter if she yelled at him or hit him first. What he did to her was not defending himself. He almost killed her.
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  -If she hit him first, his lawyers believe, it's not a felony. Are_grits_groceries  Mar-09-09 08:39 AM   #0 
  - this is BS!!! he beat the crap out of her. what the fuck!  ejpoeta   Mar-09-09 08:45 AM   #1 
  - Yes, but in self defense.  screembloodymurder   Mar-09-09 01:10 PM   #32 
     - Sure you can!  JuniperLea   Mar-09-09 01:53 PM   #44 
        - Just enough to defend yourself ... like the police do?  screembloodymurder   Mar-09-09 03:45 PM   #66 
        - Self defense only works if you can show that your force didn't exceed what was needed.  Xithras   Mar-09-09 04:16 PM   #72 
  - Right, so practically making her pass out and punch her face in several times is okay?  Jennicut   Mar-09-09 08:46 AM   #2 
  - Uh, he could have survived a couple of slaps  Warpy   Mar-09-09 08:51 AM   #3 
  - No kidding....  Dorian Gray   Mar-09-09 01:48 PM   #40 
  - No one has the right to strike another person - period.  Nicholas D Wolfwood   Mar-09-09 08:52 AM   #4 
  - I agree. Women shouldn't get a free pass on assault. Domestic violence is domestic violence.  Rashel   Mar-09-09 08:58 AM   #6 
  - Women do not get a free pass on assault, at least not here in Georgia.  RebelOne   Mar-09-09 09:56 AM   #12 
  - Nonetheless, if he were a MAN instead of a fucking wuss, he could  RaleighNCDUer   Mar-09-09 09:46 AM   #10 
  - Sounds awfully patriarchal  ozu   Mar-09-09 10:03 AM   #14 
  - With very few exceptions, a man is more physically powerful than  RaleighNCDUer   Mar-09-09 10:37 AM   #18 
  - "A real man does not beat on people smaller than he is."  ZombieHorde   Mar-09-09 01:02 PM   #28 
     - Man: an adult male who is responsible for his actions.  RaleighNCDUer   Mar-09-09 02:06 PM   #48 
  - Sure...  Dorian Gray   Mar-09-09 01:50 PM   #42 
  - This has little to do with manliness.  Veritas_et_Aequitas   Mar-09-09 10:04 AM   #15 
  - A man takes responsibilty for his actions.  RaleighNCDUer   Mar-09-09 10:26 AM   #17 
     - A HUMAN takes responsibility for his or her actions.  Nicholas D Wolfwood   Mar-09-09 10:43 AM   #20 
     - So a woman takes no responsibility for her actions.  AngryAmish   Mar-09-09 01:43 PM   #38 
        - Strawman. I did not say that.  RaleighNCDUer   Mar-09-09 02:29 PM   #55 
           - We agree on the inappropriateness of the response  AngryAmish   Mar-09-09 03:15 PM   #60 
  - Contrary to the point, and rather asinine.  Nicholas D Wolfwood   Mar-09-09 10:42 AM   #19 
  - The point is, she was NEVER a threat to him. You have NO right  RaleighNCDUer   Mar-09-09 12:12 PM   #22 
     - An attack is an attack.  Nicholas D Wolfwood   Mar-09-09 12:41 PM   #24 
     - If you don't know that there's a difference between men and women,  RaleighNCDUer   Mar-09-09 02:14 PM   #49 
        - Nice dodge of the question.  Nicholas D Wolfwood   Mar-09-09 02:21 PM   #53 
           - Not at all. I've said it before, in this very thread.  RaleighNCDUer   Mar-09-09 02:59 PM   #58 
              - Are weapons not the great equalizer here?  Nicholas D Wolfwood   Mar-09-09 03:11 PM   #59 
              - Who had a weapon? nt  RaleighNCDUer   Mar-09-09 03:28 PM   #61 
              - This time, no one.  Nicholas D Wolfwood   Mar-09-09 03:36 PM   #65 
              - Um, a lot more men own guns than women  Hello_Kitty   Mar-09-09 04:34 PM   #77 
              - "They have less opportunity to impose their will physically on others"  ieoeja   Mar-09-09 04:22 PM   #73 
              - Roles? Biological imperative? What are we, fucking chimps?  ieoeja   Mar-09-09 04:26 PM   #74 
     - If someone's striking you, you have a right to hit back.  HiFructosePronSyrup   Mar-09-09 01:04 PM   #29 
     - If you're trying to drive a car and someone hits you,  pipi_k   Mar-09-09 01:19 PM   #34 
        - Thank you. nt  RaleighNCDUer   Mar-09-09 01:43 PM   #36 
        - If someone hits my while I'm driving, I'll backhand them right in the face.  HiFructosePronSyrup   Mar-09-09 02:03 PM   #47 
        - You really are fixated on this specious argument.  Hello_Kitty   Mar-09-09 04:36 PM   #78 
        - Supposedly that is when he pulled over -  dustbunnie   Mar-09-09 02:34 PM   #56 
           - But don't you see? He was DEFENDING himself!  Hello_Kitty   Mar-09-09 04:37 PM   #79 
     - well, if you're driving when you come under attack  Lance_Boyle   Mar-09-09 02:38 PM   #57 
  - That attitude is half the problem  EstimatedProphet   Mar-09-09 12:52 PM   #26 
  - When I was ten years old I learned, dealing with my three sisters,  RaleighNCDUer   Mar-09-09 01:59 PM   #46 
     - I don't care who started it either  EstimatedProphet   Mar-09-09 03:35 PM   #64 
        - Has ANYBODY claimed she had a right to hit him?  RaleighNCDUer   Mar-09-09 04:32 PM   #76 
  - This one of the more stupid things I've ever read here.  lumberjack_jeff   Mar-09-09 01:49 PM   #41 
  - Sure they are.  RaleighNCDUer   Mar-09-09 02:16 PM   #51 
  - How would you handle that chld gnawing on your kneecap?  ieoeja   Mar-09-09 04:10 PM   #70 
  - I agree with you completely  lmn84   Mar-09-09 12:15 PM   #23 
  - Yeah, she smacked and punched him while he was driving the car. Right.  Captain Hilts   Mar-09-09 08:53 AM   #5 
  - Matters not. It is in the official police report.  Ikonoklast   Mar-09-09 08:59 AM   #7 
  - Disgusting  Ohio Joe   Mar-09-09 09:02 AM   #8 
  - I somehow suspected this would be his defense. nt  Kahuna   Mar-09-09 09:04 AM   #9 
  - The CA Penal Code says it's a felony. Only plea bargaining can change the charge  tanngrisnir3   Mar-09-09 09:50 AM   #11 
  - Assault can be mutual, and there's also a question of degree.  baldguy   Mar-09-09 09:57 AM   #13 
  - Your post is a mirror of the I/P forum.  ZombieHorde   Mar-09-09 01:09 PM   #31 
  - Dont blame the defense lawyers  FudaFuda   Mar-09-09 10:09 AM   #16 
  - +1 (nt)  Nicholas D Wolfwood   Mar-09-09 10:44 AM   #21 
  - That sounds like a cop-out.  Dr. Strange   Mar-09-09 01:43 PM   #37 
  - It's his job to help his client, not promote  geek tragedy   Mar-09-09 02:16 PM   #50 
  - "mitigate any punishment to the greatest extent possible"  Scout   Mar-09-09 04:04 PM   #68 
  - Unfortunately, she will probably go along with this story to get him out of it.  Dawgs   Mar-09-09 12:48 PM   #25 
  - I don't think it's bright either  ellacott   Mar-09-09 12:58 PM   #27 
  - typical victim blaming and abuse apologetics  musette_sf   Mar-09-09 01:06 PM   #30 
  - In my county, she would be charged also.  librechik   Mar-09-09 01:12 PM   #33 
  - They both engaged in domestic violence and both should be charged.  TexasObserver   Mar-09-09 01:35 PM   #35 
  - The report is based on what the two of them told the cops. That's all.  Captain Hilts   Mar-09-09 01:55 PM   #45 
  - Yup. It's exactly the way the DA should proceed....He should  cboy4   Mar-09-09 04:10 PM   #69 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Mar-09-09 02:18 PM   #52 
  - Agreed. Remove gender from the equation. n/t  ieoeja   Mar-09-09 04:28 PM   #75 
     - We need to do that if we're going to treat domestic violence properly.  TexasObserver   Mar-10-09 05:38 PM   #81 
  - Are you suggesting that who threw the first punch is irrelevant?  lumberjack_jeff   Mar-09-09 01:45 PM   #39 
  - I once knew a teeny tiny lady with a huge husband, and she used to  Lisa0825   Mar-09-09 02:21 PM   #54 
  - Wow, then his face must be all bloodied and bruised, too...  cynatnite   Mar-09-09 01:51 PM   #43 
  - Typical wife beater.  chrisa   Mar-09-09 03:30 PM   #62 
  - people have differening strengths. there is a difference between striking and battery too  La Lioness Priyanka   Mar-09-09 03:33 PM   #63 
  - She hit him while driving? No danger to the public there.  Seldona   Mar-09-09 03:49 PM   #67 
  - That is a ridiculous defense....you can't water down a 273.5  cboy4   Mar-09-09 04:15 PM   #71 
  - It really doesn't matter  blogslut   Mar-09-09 04:39 PM   #80 
 

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