IdaBriggs
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Fri Mar-06-09 08:55 AM
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| How much money would your household save if you didn't have to pay for medicine/health coverage? |
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I finally watched "Sicko" last weekend, and of course it got me thinking.
How much would the 'normal' household save if you didn't have to pay ONE CENT for
a) Doctor Visits b) Emergency Room Visits c) Hospital Stays d) Ambulance Transport e) Prescriptions f) Dental Care g) Insurance Costs h) Miscellaneous, Unlisted Health Related Expenses
Would you do me the favor of taking a quick look at your monthly budget, and tossing some numbers up? It would also be interesting to see how many people in your household are 'covered' (or not) for that amount of money.
I'll post mine in a separate line to 'kick' the thread.
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| -How much money would your household save if you didn't have to pay for medicine/health coverage? |
IdaBriggs |
Mar-06-09 08:55 AM |
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Maybe @ $6000 a year.. but I would pay the same |
Belial |
Mar-06-09 08:57 AM |
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Where do you get the number $6000 more in taxes per year? |
annabanana |
Mar-06-09 09:00 AM |
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It certainly wouldn't be zero |
slackmaster |
Mar-06-09 09:06 AM |
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That seems close to what it would average per household even with |
Lost in CT |
Mar-06-09 09:12 AM |
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How do you know that? |
Bigmack |
Mar-06-09 09:03 AM |
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No you wouldn't pay more, unless.... |
demodonkey |
Mar-06-09 09:09 AM |
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Define... hell of a lot of money.. |
Belial |
Mar-06-09 10:05 AM |
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Self employed people will pay a lot more... |
ContinentalOp |
Mar-06-09 07:40 PM |
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Probably right |
Profprileasn |
Mar-06-09 08:10 PM |
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Is that why we're rated as #37 in the world in health care, |
Ikonoklast |
Mar-06-09 09:42 PM |
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Nearly $1000 in premiums, before you get to the $2500 deductible |
TBF |
Mar-06-09 08:59 AM |
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0 dollars |
Cid_B |
Mar-06-09 09:00 AM |
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Out of curiousity, how is the medical care in the military? |
IdaBriggs |
Mar-06-09 09:08 AM |
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Well... |
Cid_B |
Mar-06-09 10:02 AM |
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I've got a good friend who basically joined the military for health care. Unfortunately, he ended |
ogneopasno |
Mar-06-09 11:31 AM |
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I would label that as a very poor reason to join... |
Cid_B |
Mar-06-09 12:51 PM |
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Oh, he wasn't surprised at all. He was just what the army wanted, though -- a smart, hard-luck guy |
ogneopasno |
Mar-06-09 01:08 PM |
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It usually does.... |
Cid_B |
Mar-06-09 01:17 PM |
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My wife's COBRA alone is $365/mo. |
hobbit709 |
Mar-06-09 09:01 AM |
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I was just talking about how much we've spent on health care this year with my wife this morning. |
BurtWorm |
Mar-06-09 09:04 AM |
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Ummmm...... |
Coyote_Bandit |
Mar-06-09 09:04 AM |
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Between $2,000 and $3,000 per year, but someone would have to pay for it somehow |
slackmaster |
Mar-06-09 09:04 AM |
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PLEASE READ about HR 676. Learn how it would be funded. Start here: |
demodonkey |
Mar-06-09 09:13 AM |
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"employer payroll tax of 4.5%, an employee payroll tax of 3.3%" |
slackmaster |
Mar-06-09 09:20 AM |
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You also get the security of knowing that if your employer cuts coverage, cuts YOU, or goes under... |
demodonkey |
Mar-06-09 09:42 AM |
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I have decent coverage for prescriptions, but because of complex eye problems... |
slackmaster |
Mar-06-09 09:44 AM |
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Oh yes -- one more thing. Local, county, and state governments would pay less for their employees |
demodonkey |
Mar-06-09 09:54 AM |
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You would only pay 3.3% of salary, & save the $2-3K you are paying now -- get lots more coverage. |
Yellow Horse |
Mar-06-09 10:14 AM |
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My employer would have to get that 4.5% somewhere |
slackmaster |
Mar-06-09 12:29 PM |
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It comes from the money your employer does NOT have to spend for insurance premiums under this! |
Yellow Horse |
Mar-07-09 03:46 AM |
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I'm assuming the self employed would have to pay that full 7.8%, just like we do for social security |
ContinentalOp |
Mar-06-09 01:08 PM |
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People who don't have high healthcare costs (now) would likely see a financial hit |
slackmaster |
Mar-06-09 01:27 PM |
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And people who don't have ANY coverage now would likely have a chance to live... |
Yellow Horse |
Mar-07-09 03:52 AM |
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It means the cost of what we lay out in tax payer funds for |
HillbillyBob |
Mar-06-09 10:09 AM |
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Over 5000.00 and that's with medicare. |
shraby |
Mar-06-09 09:05 AM |
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About 1500 a year... so yes I would pay more for universal... |
Lost in CT |
Mar-06-09 09:10 AM |
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I would have saved a bundle over being uninsured for 20+ years |
Warpy |
Mar-06-09 09:11 AM |
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I would probably end up spending. |
Kali |
Mar-06-09 09:14 AM |
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But you would have to pay taxes. |
Kalyke |
Mar-06-09 09:19 AM |
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I pay 7200 without .8900 if i use it for anything...plus co pay doctors visits, hospital..nt |
xiamiam |
Mar-06-09 09:21 AM |
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A rough estimate from last year |
davsand |
Mar-06-09 09:21 AM |
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I wouldn't save any money, because I don't pay for those things now. |
Lyric |
Mar-06-09 09:23 AM |
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Please, Take Off Those Rose-Colored Glasses |
NashVegas |
Mar-06-09 09:25 AM |
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Our glasses (if we can afford them) are BLOOD-covered now... |
demodonkey |
Mar-06-09 09:46 AM |
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And People With No Brains |
NashVegas |
Mar-06-09 11:49 AM |
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Navarro study |
area51 |
Mar-06-09 07:31 PM |
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Speaking of glasses..mine cost 375 for lenses alone and since I have |
HillbillyBob |
Mar-06-09 02:08 PM |
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I've Always Had to Pay For Glasses. Dental, Too |
NashVegas |
Mar-06-09 07:09 PM |
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At least $200 a month for co-pays and expenses. If you tossed in the monthly premium. |
haele |
Mar-06-09 09:27 AM |
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If that list were true |
Bluenorthwest |
Mar-06-09 09:28 AM |
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min $8,000 a year in premium |
RT Atlanta |
Mar-06-09 09:30 AM |
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well the dental would save us crap loads, I have 3 kids, and I have horrible teeth |
recoveringrepublican |
Mar-06-09 09:30 AM |
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We pay approximately $20k/yr for insurance |
Jackpine Radical |
Mar-06-09 09:43 AM |
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$260 / mo for premiums alone, for a high deductible policy that doesn't |
raccoon |
Mar-06-09 09:46 AM |
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Right now we pay $1300 a month |
JSK |
Mar-06-09 09:52 AM |
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About $300 a month. n/t |
ceile |
Mar-06-09 09:54 AM |
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I have to annualize mine before breaking down: |
Ilsa |
Mar-06-09 09:58 AM |
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what about other collateral damage |
AlphaCentauri |
Mar-06-09 10:05 AM |
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about $3000 to $4000 per year. nt |
terisan |
Mar-06-09 10:08 AM |
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I'd save over $10,000 |
lmn84 |
Mar-06-09 10:19 AM |
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Maybe $5000/year. Not much. |
MercutioATC |
Mar-06-09 10:58 AM |
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We had to give up insurance 5 years ago because we couldn't afford it. |
Vinca |
Mar-06-09 11:29 AM |
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No less than $9600 a year |
Blue_In_AK |
Mar-06-09 11:58 AM |
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Its very hard to say, it varies from family to family |
Juche |
Mar-06-09 12:32 PM |
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Several hundred in 2008. |
alarimer |
Mar-06-09 12:42 PM |
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Ouch "employer payroll tax of 4.5% an employee payroll tax of 3.3%" my healthcare costs would triple |
ContinentalOp |
Mar-06-09 12:59 PM |
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Actually, I redid the math and it would only be 2.5x more expensive than what we pay now. |
ContinentalOp |
Mar-06-09 01:06 PM |
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I think that car insurance rates would drop drastically as well |
Fireweed247 |
Mar-06-09 01:02 PM |
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Yeah, because insurance companies are always looking to save us money |
leftstreet |
Mar-06-09 01:03 PM |
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Between premiums and deductibles, I would have to spend |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Mar-06-09 01:04 PM |
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None |
tammywammy |
Mar-06-09 01:11 PM |
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The original question had nothing to do with how much your taxes |
IdaBriggs |
Mar-06-09 02:21 PM |
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Yeah, but if my taxes go up I'm not "saving" anything. |
tammywammy |
Mar-06-09 04:57 PM |
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I just recently got insurance through my company again..... |
OhioChick |
Mar-06-09 07:15 PM |
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Not a whole lot, frankly |
MissB |
Mar-06-09 07:42 PM |
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$22K/yr for two adults |
Stinky The Clown |
Mar-06-09 08:02 PM |
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Thousands. |
suede1 |
Mar-06-09 08:03 PM |
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I'd Save Over $4000 on my Insurance and One Prescription and Co-pays |
we can do it |
Mar-06-09 08:46 PM |
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Let me do a quick compare: UK vs US. |
mwooldri |
Mar-06-09 09:34 PM |
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Under a proposed state single payer plan, husband and myself would pay $175 a month |
eridani |
Mar-07-09 04:17 AM |
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