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RufusTFirefly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-05-09 10:17 AM
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83. How modern a formulation is "oath or affirmation"?
Why, it's as modern as the Constitution, which uses the phrase multiple times.

The Constitution has always been a decidedly secular document. This isn't new.
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  -Breaking: Turdblossom and Harriet to Testify kpete  Mar-04-09 04:53 PM   #0 
  - "under penalty of purjury"? does that mean UNDER OATH?  jtrockville   Mar-04-09 05:01 PM   #1 
  - According to the dictionary  The Wizard   Mar-04-09 05:07 PM   #5 
  - Lying to Congress is purjury whether an oath is taken or not...  lisa58   Mar-04-09 05:11 PM   #7 
  - Since when does he care about an oath?  Catamount   Mar-04-09 09:42 PM   #56 
  - Looks like it is Under Oath...  lisa58   Mar-04-09 05:15 PM   #10 
  - Actually, I believe it does mean under oath. That's not too important, though,  Jackpine Radical   Mar-04-09 07:30 PM   #40 
  - Atheists should be happy that it is NOT necessarily UNDER OATH  HamdenRice   Mar-05-09 05:36 AM   #79 
     - How modern a formulation is "oath or affirmation"?  RufusTFirefly   Mar-05-09 10:17 AM   #83 
        - BY GRABTHAR'S HAMMER I SWEAR I WILL AVENGE THEE!!!  HamdenRice   Mar-05-09 10:50 AM   #85 
           - Haha. Good point. I'd call the Enlightenment "modern" ...  RufusTFirefly   Mar-05-09 10:52 AM   #86 
  - encouraging, but in public under oath is the only way, ultimately  ixion   Mar-04-09 05:04 PM   #2 
  - I disagree about the public part.  Jackpine Radical   Mar-04-09 07:32 PM   #41 
     - They're going to use  Politicalboi   Mar-04-09 08:43 PM   #50 
     - but doesn't that mean we can't see the testimony? nt  tomp   Mar-05-09 11:32 AM   #87 
  - Haven't we seen this headline a few times before already??  Hulk   Mar-04-09 05:04 PM   #3 
  - Justice Department investigation: "political considerations played a part in the firings"  L. Coyote   Mar-04-09 08:51 PM   #51 
  - WTF? agreement reached with "the former Bush Administration"  Kurt_and_Hunter   Mar-04-09 05:06 PM   #4 
  - ...and one wonders what kind of concessions were given to reach an "agreement"  bbgrunt   Mar-04-09 05:08 PM   #6 
  - My first thought.  Richard D   Mar-04-09 06:35 PM   #30 
     - Maybe not much. Maybe the major concession was that U.S. marshals wouldn't  Jackpine Radical   Mar-04-09 07:33 PM   #42 
  - Yes, you've nailed the essence, Kurt_and_Hunter. The Bush Junta = the Mob.  Peace Patriot   Mar-04-09 06:44 PM   #34 
     - Recommend for Peace Patriots comments.  The abyss   Mar-04-09 10:34 PM   #70 
     - Like many people here on DU have been saying all along. The BFEE = The Mafia.  earth mom   Mar-05-09 02:05 AM   #76 
  - When it comes time to give credit  Turbineguy   Mar-04-09 05:12 PM   #8 
  - Meh. I bet he heard someone else say it first.  No Elephants   Mar-05-09 03:28 AM   #77 
  - I'm Thinking They'll Both Take the Fifth  Demeter   Mar-04-09 05:13 PM   #9 
  - Of course, then they can just go down the line to Rove's and Harriet's assistants, etc.  JDPriestly   Mar-04-09 06:28 PM   #28 
  - Then let them. There is most likely sufficient independent evidence  Jackpine Radical   Mar-04-09 07:35 PM   #43 
  - I'll Believe It When I See It  Beetwasher   Mar-04-09 05:15 PM   #11 
  - So does this mean Rove will testify and not be prosecuted?  Taverner   Mar-04-09 05:16 PM   #13 
  - About Fukin Time  Parche   Mar-04-09 05:16 PM   #14 
  - I'll Believe It When I See It  Beetwasher   Mar-04-09 05:16 PM   #15 
  - Whoa........  Tangerine LaBamba   Mar-04-09 05:16 PM   #16 
  - Agreement Should Be: Rove Either Testifies or Does the Frog March  AndyTiedye   Mar-04-09 05:27 PM   #17 
  - The testify or frog march may be the "agreement." The language  JDPriestly   Mar-04-09 06:31 PM   #29 
  - Why would ANYone  rambler_american   Mar-04-09 08:18 PM   #47 
  - That's what I'd like to see! n/t  Catamount   Mar-04-09 09:56 PM   #65 
  - I think this is the Theater of Politicians and Craig and Conyers will see that Rove goes free.  terisan   Mar-04-09 05:29 PM   #18 
  - "In an agreement "-- these words worry me. WHAT was in that agreement?  beac   Mar-04-09 05:34 PM   #19 
  - transcribed depositions  spamlet2002   Mar-04-09 05:43 PM   #20 
  - A transcription is the process of recording an oral deposition in written form as I understand it.  JDPriestly   Mar-04-09 06:36 PM   #31 
  - Yes. Transcribed simply means that a written record is made by someone like a court reporter  Jackpine Radical   Mar-04-09 07:38 PM   #44 
  - Its a concession from the Bush side  creeksneakers2   Mar-04-09 06:46 PM   #35 
  - So, they had to come to an AGREEMENT  pleah   Mar-04-09 05:52 PM   #21 
  - And will elope shortly thereafter.  Hardrada   Mar-04-09 05:53 PM   #22 
  - SPEWWWWW  jhain   Mar-04-09 06:05 PM   #24 
  - Hope They Can Find A NOMEX Covered Bible  jhain   Mar-04-09 06:05 PM   #23 
  - Sheeeeit. Rove will run the whole show with a smirk on his fat fucking face.  salguine   Mar-04-09 06:23 PM   #25 
  - Anyone want to make a bet on how times Rove and Harriet will answer "I don't recall"s and  JDPriestly   Mar-04-09 06:26 PM   #26 
  - Can you say, "redacted?"  The Backlash Cometh   Mar-04-09 06:27 PM   #27 
  - Yep  notesdev   Mar-04-09 06:37 PM   #33 
  - So, they testify and take the 5th or say "I can't recall"...  NewJeffCT   Mar-04-09 06:37 PM   # 
  - Euphemism: "between the former Bush Administration and"?? Who is who??  L. Coyote   Mar-04-09 06:37 PM   #32 
  - Under penalty of perjury - Do you really think THAT scares them after all they have done?,,,  benld74   Mar-04-09 06:47 PM   #36 
  - What happened to Josh Bolten and his subpoena?  deminks   Mar-04-09 07:17 PM   #37 
  - It is to our honor to have a gentleman such as Conyers in the US Senate  struggle4progress   Mar-04-09 07:19 PM   #38 
  - To me this is too little too late. Rove should be in jail while the investigation  Lint Head   Mar-04-09 07:29 PM   #39 
  - it won't be public either. unfortunately.  bdamomma   Mar-04-09 07:45 PM   #45 
  - uh, oh ....hmmmmmmmmmmm...  defendandprotect   Mar-04-09 09:44 PM   #58 
  - I'm sure it will be a little more transparent than usual  Rosa Luxemburg   Mar-04-09 09:54 PM   #63 
  - Breaking Turdblossom - I like the sound of that! n/t  Xipe Totec   Mar-04-09 08:17 PM   #46 
  - WHERE WERE WE? Deja DU's  L. Coyote   Mar-04-09 08:39 PM   #48 
  - I want to see them  femrap   Mar-04-09 08:41 PM   #49 
  - Me too  Politicalboi   Mar-04-09 08:56 PM   #53 
  - Why did the former Bush admin have to agree?  Sarah Ibarruri   Mar-04-09 08:52 PM   #52 
  - I've said it before and I'll say it again.  ElboRuum   Mar-04-09 09:14 PM   #54 
  - "Not technically under oath"  Ellipsis   Mar-04-09 09:22 PM   #55 
  - according to The Hill  merh   Mar-05-09 12:03 AM   #72 
     - Yeah but he didn't have a get out of jail free card and I'm thinking Rove might...  Ellipsis   Mar-05-09 12:57 AM   #74 
        - I'm afraid Craig will keep him out of jail  merh   Mar-05-09 01:02 AM   #75 
  - Good news . . . !!!  defendandprotect   Mar-04-09 09:42 PM   #57 
  - Pelosi: Rove Deal Is "Victory For The Constitution" (TPM)  struggle4progress   Mar-04-09 09:46 PM   #59 
  - Bush statement on Rove, Miers (TrailBlazers)  struggle4progress   Mar-04-09 09:48 PM   #60 
  - Deal means Rove, Miers will testify (The Hill)  struggle4progress   Mar-04-09 09:51 PM   #61 
  - Rove, Conyers reach deal on testimony (The Hill)  struggle4progress   Mar-04-09 09:53 PM   #62 
  - Ex-Bush advisor Karl Rove to testify in Congress (AFP)  struggle4progress   Mar-04-09 09:55 PM   #64 
  - Rove, Miers Will Testify Over U.S. Attorney Firings (CBS)  struggle4progress   Mar-04-09 09:57 PM   #66 
  - This is the least of their crimes, but it's being made the most of.  iconicgnom   Mar-04-09 10:02 PM   # 
  - Rove, Miers to testify before U.S. House panel (Reuters)  struggle4progress   Mar-04-09 10:02 PM   #67 
  - Top Bush Aides to Testify in U.S. Attorneys' Firings (NYT)  struggle4progress   Mar-04-09 10:03 PM   #68 
  - Sir/m'am,I do not remember  classysassy   Mar-04-09 10:26 PM   #69 
  - Let's not forget the act of treason, punishible by death,  Lindsey   Mar-04-09 11:37 PM   #71 
  - Here's the Faux Noise version ...  BlueMTexpat   Mar-05-09 12:40 AM   #73 
  - Seriously. I thought you were writing satire until I explored the link...eom  Kolesar   Mar-05-09 05:29 AM   #78 
  - Testimony "NOT UNDER OATH"  flyarm   Mar-05-09 09:37 AM   #80 
  - Any connection between this "agreement" and...  RufusTFirefly   Mar-05-09 10:12 AM   #81 
  - I hope someone on the committee goes off the reservation  Ikonoklast   Mar-05-09 10:14 AM   #82 
  - AGREEMENT FOR ROVE AND MIERS  flyarm   Mar-05-09 10:49 AM   #84 
  - oh please  spamlet2002   Mar-05-09 01:08 PM   #88 
  - Encouraging, but...  MadrasT   Mar-05-09 03:44 PM   #89 
  - K&R. (nt)  Kurovski   Mar-05-09 04:29 PM   #90 
  - Rove? He's been indicted since May 2005  DisgustedTX   Mar-05-09 07:01 PM   #91 

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