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Two Americas (1000+ posts)

Sun Mar-01-09 12:59 AM
Response to Reply #24

32. you must be kidding

Ideas are subject to ridicule. That is not the same as ridiculing people for things about them that were not a choice.

I object to the language in your OP, and to your deceptive and self-serving attempt to portray yourself as persecuted merely because your ideas were ridiculed, and by your willful trivializing of bigotry and racism for the purpose of carrying on a petty feud here.

Just because people do not agree with your opinions on something, that does not make them "prejudiced" and it most certainly does not make them bigoted.

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Please use your grey matter and consider grey areas -- Think Outside The Bias	omega minimo	Feb-28-09 07:59 PM	#0
Swell. Like we don't all think about these complex issues. NT	Mike 03	Feb-28-09 08:00 PM	#1
Defensive reply, false reversal, accusation that "all" are being commented on.	omega minimo	Feb-28-09 08:02 PM	#2
What is the OP's point? nt	ZombieHorde	Feb-28-09 08:08 PM	#5
Read it, please	omega minimo	Feb-28-09 08:10 PM	#7
I did read your post. Will you answer my question? nt	ZombieHorde	Feb-28-09 08:15 PM	#9
yes, if you would tell us what you were able to discern for yourself	omega minimo	Feb-28-09 08:19 PM	#10
You like Albert Einstein. nt	ZombieHorde	Feb-28-09 08:47 PM	#21
relying on "past experience" and twisted-knowledge is what got us into this mess...	ProgrezivIndie	Mar-01-09 11:29 AM	#81
I'm sorry. It's just that I see these sorts of posts every day.	Mike 03	Feb-28-09 08:30 PM	#17
I'm sorry it was a lecture and thinly veiled -- no insult intended, esp. toward "retards"	omega minimo	Feb-28-09 10:40 PM	#23
'Smartypants' and 'small-minded' were probably a mistake, then	muriel_volestrangler	Mar-01-09 12:08 PM	#84
Good one LOL	omega minimo	Mar-01-09 12:48 PM	#90
No, no sarcasm there	muriel_volestrangler	Mar-01-09 01:04 PM	#102
So "skeptics" HAVE no sense of humor. Thank you for confirming.	omega minimo	Mar-01-09 01:14 PM	#111
#53	Vanje	Mar-01-09 01:16 PM	#113
Nope. Only the OP does. And those who agree with him or her.	BlooInBloo	Feb-28-09 08:23 PM	#12
Not at all. Don't be SILLY. Oh wait, It's BlooInBloo!!!	omega minimo	Feb-28-09 08:29 PM	#15
#36 of the Woo Woo Credo...nt	SidDithers	Feb-28-09 08:04 PM	#3
#2 checking in to prove the OP's (and Einstein's) point	omega minimo	Feb-28-09 08:06 PM	#4
Ya know what's really funny? Aside from you editing your post later?	omega minimo	Mar-01-09 04:29 AM	#66
I very clearly showed what my edit was...	SidDithers	Mar-01-09 11:26 AM	#80
funny stuff	Blue_Tires	Mar-01-09 01:12 PM	#107
"Batshit views" --	omega minimo	Mar-01-09 01:16 PM	#112
#93B	Vanje	Mar-01-09 01:16 PM	#114
I was just amused by the general humor in the list	Blue_Tires	Mar-01-09 01:20 PM	#119
I was amazed how much like Republican "humor" it was.	omega minimo	Mar-01-09 01:24 PM	#121
This is the greatest thing of all time	NeedleCast	Mar-01-09 01:17 PM	#115
yes	Two Americas	Mar-01-09 02:36 PM	#186
Did you know that Einstein liked the idea of socialism?	MedleyMisty	Feb-28-09 08:09 PM	#6
.	omega minimo	Feb-28-09 08:10 PM	#8
(shrug) Einstein also didn't believe in the use of probablistic models...	BlooInBloo	Feb-28-09 08:25 PM	#14
Ahhh, now I see where you're coming from...	SidDithers	Feb-28-09 08:22 PM	#11
black and white thinking deflects a lot of important topics	omega minimo	Feb-28-09 08:37 PM	#19
Lots of quotes there, here's a few more...	cobalt1999	Feb-28-09 08:24 PM	#13
Considering the supernatural not part of "the real world" (and quoting John Stossel)	omega minimo	Feb-28-09 08:41 PM	#20
Oh, dueling quotes.	cobalt1999	Feb-28-09 08:49 PM	#22
Deleted message	Name removed	Feb-28-09 10:59 PM	#24
I've seen several folk on the supposed left here	Starry Messenger	Mar-01-09 12:06 AM	#26
Good point, except this is not true:	omega minimo	Mar-01-09 12:40 AM	#28
Beliefs are not a choice?	Starry Messenger	Mar-01-09 12:56 AM	#31
This is the same rationale that was used during the Inquisition.	I Have A Dream	Mar-01-09 01:03 AM	#33
Um, what?	Starry Messenger	Mar-01-09 01:08 AM	#37
It seems I Have A Dream suggests beliefs are not a choice like a suit of clothes to change	omega minimo	Mar-01-09 01:12 AM	#39
If I misunderstood you, I apologize.	I Have A Dream	Mar-01-09 01:13 AM	#40
Very well said	ayeshahaqqiqa	Mar-01-09 10:28 AM	#74
Of course they can complain.	Starry Messenger	Mar-01-09 12:08 PM	#83
Dear Dream	ayeshahaqqiqa	Mar-01-09 10:27 AM	#73
Exactly. Your points well taken.	omega minimo	Mar-01-09 01:07 AM	#36
I'm an artist.	Starry Messenger	Mar-01-09 01:17 AM	#41
That's the point	omega minimo	Mar-01-09 01:20 AM	#43
DU is not society.	Starry Messenger	Mar-01-09 01:28 AM	#45
OKIC	omega minimo	Mar-01-09 01:37 AM	#47
It's also your choice to use ad hominem attacks like "woo-woo."	Baikonour	Mar-01-09 03:15 AM	#55
I was quoting.	Starry Messenger	Mar-01-09 09:04 AM	#70
confusion	Two Americas	Mar-01-09 02:41 PM	#189
Funny this "beliefs are a choice" thing. Have you really thought that through?	omega minimo	Mar-01-09 03:39 AM	#61
Yes, I have thought this through.	Starry Messenger	Mar-01-09 09:11 AM	#71
Yes, I agree with you, omega minimo.	I Have A Dream	Mar-01-09 12:17 AM	#27
This is key. And one hint at what the most hostile have had taken from them:	omega minimo	Mar-01-09 12:50 AM	#29
Sufis call them "God Concepts"	ayeshahaqqiqa	Mar-01-09 10:33 AM	#75
excellent post for everyone. Thank you ayeshahaqqiqa	omega minimo	Mar-01-09 12:51 PM	#92
Sorry I couldn't get on this discussion earlier	ayeshahaqqiqa	Mar-01-09 01:47 PM	#142
yes	omega minimo	Mar-01-09 02:01 PM	#152
you must be kidding	Two Americas	Mar-01-09 12:59 AM	#32
I respect your right to dig in your heels and tighten your blinders. The hostility we could do w/o.	omega minimo	Mar-01-09 01:04 AM	#34
I don't care about the OP	Two Americas	Mar-01-09 01:20 AM	#42
Speaking of malicious and dishonest ---	omega minimo	Mar-01-09 01:35 AM	#46
what are you talking about?	Two Americas	Mar-01-09 01:46 AM	#49
You have the right to your opinion and not to attack, I won't argue the first or accept the latter.	omega minimo	Mar-01-09 01:54 AM	#51
I don't care what your motives are	Two Americas	Mar-01-09 02:25 AM	#54
Oh I assumed you read the OP or the thread you were posting in	omega minimo	Mar-01-09 03:17 AM	#56
this is strange	Two Americas	Mar-01-09 01:20 PM	#118
not at this point	omega minimo	Mar-01-09 01:26 PM	#123
lol	Two Americas	Mar-01-09 02:31 PM	#184
#32	omega minimo	Mar-01-09 02:48 PM	#197
is this a comedy routine?	Two Americas	Mar-01-09 02:51 PM	#201
#197	omega minimo	Mar-01-09 02:59 PM	#213
2As did not make a personal attack	Vanje	Mar-01-09 11:14 AM	#78
Excellent post, TA.	Shakespeare	Mar-01-09 11:35 AM	#82
We're WooWoo! We're Coo Coo! Get used to it!	Vanje	Mar-01-09 10:54 AM	#76
#29	omega minimo	Mar-01-09 12:47 PM	#89
#29?	Vanje	Mar-01-09 12:53 PM	#94
Maybe it's the DSM-IV number for her condition. n/t	QC	Mar-01-09 01:54 PM	#148
WTF do your woo-woo beliefs have to do with sexuality?...	SidDithers	Mar-01-09 11:17 AM	#79
#23 and #29	omega minimo	Mar-01-09 12:49 PM	#91
Instead of posting random numbers,	Vanje	Mar-01-09 12:55 PM	#96
instead of not reading the posts,	omega minimo	Mar-01-09 12:58 PM	#98
Did the OP have a point?	Vanje	Mar-01-09 01:02 PM	#101
Vanje, again, you might want to read before you post :thumbsup:	omega minimo	Mar-01-09 01:09 PM	#106
Who is keeping you from getting married?	Vanje	Mar-01-09 01:18 PM	#117
I read all of the posts	Two Americas	Mar-01-09 02:50 PM	#200
She's attempting (unsuccessfully) to co-opt very real, very ugly discrimination against the GLBT....	Shakespeare	Mar-01-09 02:55 PM	#209
We have more in common than you might think	omega minimo	Mar-01-09 03:01 PM	#216
#412 and #590	Two Americas	Mar-01-09 02:57 PM	#212
There is healthy skepticism about the way things are and then	sufrommich	Feb-28-09 08:29 PM	#16
healthy skepticism over ignorant attacks? You betcha	omega minimo	Feb-28-09 08:34 PM	#18
Clarke's Three Laws:	petronius	Feb-28-09 11:58 PM	#25
Well ya don't have ta get all	omega minimo	Mar-01-09 12:51 AM	#30
What's wrong with pithy? It's a lot better than sententious, etc	petronius	Mar-01-09 01:04 AM	#35
Especially long sententious.	omega minimo	Mar-01-09 01:09 AM	#38
Depends on how quickly he talked, doesn't it?	petronius	Mar-01-09 01:23 AM	#44
he was in an elevator	omega minimo	Mar-01-09 01:39 AM	#48
Nice post, Einstein	leftstreet	Mar-01-09 01:51 AM	#50
We have our WINNUR!	havocmom	Mar-01-09 01:55 AM	#52
No shit, Sherlock	omega minimo	Mar-01-09 01:59 AM	#53
Who knew that Einstein was such a shit disturber here at DU?	HCE SuiGeneris	Mar-01-09 03:23 AM	#57
Fervet olla, vivit amicitia	omega minimo	Mar-01-09 03:25 AM	#58
Salut	HCE SuiGeneris	Mar-01-09 03:28 AM	#59
Grazie Mille.	omega minimo	Mar-01-09 03:34 AM	#60
Albert Einstein's book "Einstein's Dreams." was very profound.	RandomThoughts	Mar-01-09 03:49 AM	#62
You connected the dots and didn't even have all of them!!! Absolutely awesome.	omega minimo	Mar-01-09 04:17 AM	#64
Methinks thou dost protest too much	LooseWilly	Mar-01-09 12:21 PM	#85
OMG!	Vanje	Mar-01-09 12:31 PM	#86
Done and done.	LooseWilly	Mar-01-09 01:30 PM	#131
Now THAT'S using your grey matter.	Shakespeare	Mar-01-09 12:42 PM	#87
too bad it's false	omega minimo	Mar-01-09 01:06 PM	#104
Its hard to understand your meaning. Please explain.	Vanje	Mar-01-09 01:13 PM	#109
It's not a false assumption.	Shakespeare	Mar-01-09 01:25 PM	#122
What topic? Which one that the OP refers to generally? The one linked in the thread?	omega minimo	Mar-01-09 01:29 PM	#129
Yes, actually, I do.	Shakespeare	Mar-01-09 01:31 PM	#132
Remote controls are FUN...	LooseWilly	Mar-01-09 02:20 PM	#174
What did you think of the Gaia thread?	omega minimo	Mar-01-09 02:22 PM	#177
Shrug?	LooseWilly	Mar-01-09 02:38 PM	#187
yes it seems some have had bad associations with the more flamboyant examples	omega minimo	Mar-01-09 02:45 PM	#193
Dude! You are totally bad talking my Lord and Saviour!	Vanje	Mar-01-09 02:30 PM	#183
(cue Minnesota accent)...Oh, that's gonna leave a mark.	tanngrisnir3	Mar-01-09 12:44 PM	#88
#23	omega minimo	Mar-01-09 12:54 PM	#95
You are still equating "rational" with bullying bigotry...	Starry Messenger	Mar-01-09 01:01 PM	#100
Dig in deeper, feel free and then look for another thread to flame, maybe another target topic	omega minimo	Mar-01-09 01:08 PM	#105
If you are just looking for everyone to agree with you, you should just post that in the OP.	Starry Messenger	Mar-01-09 01:14 PM	#110
I'm more interested in learning than winning. That's why the OP says what it does. Oneupsmanship is	omega minimo	Mar-01-09 01:18 PM	#116
I'm interested in learning too	Vanje	Mar-01-09 01:26 PM	#124
I'm interested in how old you are	omega minimo	Mar-01-09 01:27 PM	#126
I dont need a hug from you	Vanje	Mar-01-09 01:46 PM	#141
Well yes. Isn't that obvious?	omega minimo	Mar-01-09 02:03 PM	#154
Answer the fucking question!	Vanje	Mar-01-09 02:09 PM	#160
Thank you Bully may I please have some more?	omega minimo	Mar-01-09 02:19 PM	#172
Deleted message	Name removed	Mar-01-09 02:35 PM	#185
Are you absolutely incapable of addressing the questions?	Vanje	Mar-01-09 01:29 PM	#128
#331	Two Americas	Mar-01-09 02:56 PM	#211
Sorry, that's not what it looks like from my POV. n/t	Starry Messenger	Mar-01-09 01:28 PM	#127
#136	omega minimo	Mar-01-09 02:04 PM	#155
Uh-uh. Keep digging.	Starry Messenger	Mar-01-09 02:15 PM	#167
Not if they read the OP	omega minimo	Mar-01-09 02:21 PM	#175
The OP was fine.	Starry Messenger	Mar-01-09 02:50 PM	#199
"Sorry"	omega minimo	Mar-01-09 02:52 PM	#205
When does the gay community here get an apology from you? n/t	Starry Messenger	Mar-01-09 03:00 PM	#215
Then stop villifying those who disagree with you.	Shakespeare	Mar-01-09 01:26 PM	#125
oh please. now who's persecuted. HIlarious	omega minimo	Mar-01-09 01:30 PM	#130
Did I say I was persecuted? Nope.	Shakespeare	Mar-01-09 01:33 PM	#134
The pointlessness of the hostility in "disagreeing" is what the OP is challenging	omega minimo	Mar-01-09 01:39 PM	#139
You are clearly out of your depth here, rhetorically speaking...	tanngrisnir3	Mar-01-09 01:48 PM	#143
Why do bullies think they have the right to demand satisfaction to their demands?	omega minimo	Mar-01-09 02:08 PM	#158
Terms like	Vanje	Mar-01-09 02:11 PM	#162
like "limp wristed" and "woowoo" You get it!	omega minimo	Mar-01-09 02:24 PM	#178
Both those terms	Vanje	Mar-01-09 02:43 PM	#192
You have allowed no discussion, just a pathological repetition of the same accusations	tanngrisnir3	Mar-01-09 02:19 PM	#171
Allowed? No discussion?	omega minimo	Mar-01-09 02:25 PM	#179
You are clearly not interested in discussion. You are interested in proselytizing.	tanngrisnir3	Mar-01-09 02:50 PM	#198
The OP "position" is that there is a lot more potential for common ground and discussion among	omega minimo	Mar-01-09 02:55 PM	#208
Thank you for proving my point. Yet again.	tanngrisnir3	Mar-01-09 03:00 PM	#214
Okay I was wrong	omega minimo	Mar-01-09 03:03 PM	#217
I dont even think its proselytizing	Vanje	Mar-01-09 02:56 PM	#210
.	omega minimo	Mar-01-09 03:05 PM	#219
When you make a bizarre statement in a public forum,	Vanje	Mar-01-09 02:41 PM	#190
"Woo Woo is the new Faggot"?	Vanje	Mar-01-09 01:49 PM	#144
"Please"	omega minimo	Mar-01-09 02:26 PM	#180
Then calling people "bigots" is just your idea of lighthearted fun?	Starry Messenger	Mar-01-09 01:35 PM	#136
great post	Two Americas	Mar-01-09 02:54 PM	#206
Very nicely done.	LaurenG	Mar-01-09 04:15 AM	#63
Oh Thank YOU	omega minimo	Mar-01-09 04:18 AM	#65
A computer once beat me at chess, but it was no match for me at kick boxing ~ Emo Philips	bridgit	Mar-01-09 04:32 AM	#67
Your sig line is erroneous ...	GeorgeGist	Mar-01-09 08:47 AM	#68
And this is in reference to?	MadHound	Mar-01-09 08:49 AM	#69
#64	omega minimo	Mar-01-09 12:57 PM	#97
All I know is	ayeshahaqqiqa	Mar-01-09 10:15 AM	#72
When a person makes a claim on a public message board,...	Vanje	Mar-01-09 11:05 AM	#77
perhaps you would be less "nuclear"	omega minimo	Mar-01-09 12:52 PM	#93
So you buy my shit about the rapture?	Vanje	Mar-01-09 01:01 PM	#99
Ladies and Gentlement, your Sunday Woo-woo thread...	NeedleCast	Mar-01-09 01:04 PM	#103
Deleted message	Name removed	Mar-01-09 01:12 PM	#108
This "faggot" says	Vanje	Mar-01-09 01:21 PM	#120
#93	omega minimo	Mar-01-09 01:35 PM	#135
I'm responding to your statement that "WooWoo is the new Faggot"	Vanje	Mar-01-09 01:53 PM	#147
maybe there's another single post on a different thread you could have a hissy fit about	omega minimo	Mar-01-09 02:00 PM	#151
To GLBT readers, that post trivializes the GLBT experience	Vanje	Mar-01-09 02:08 PM	#157
Deleted message	Name removed	Mar-01-09 02:12 PM	#163
GLBT experience? I got some.	Vanje	Mar-01-09 02:18 PM	#170
btw they burned "faggots" (both kinds), Gypsies, Others when they burned millions of women for being	omega minimo	Mar-01-09 02:17 PM	#169
Who is keeping you from marrying?	Vanje	Mar-01-09 02:21 PM	#176
This shit is an emberassment	NeedleCast	Mar-01-09 01:36 PM	#138
Actually, we were doing fine until the East Coast woke up. What's in the water back there?	omega minimo	Mar-01-09 01:42 PM	#140
You're so transparent you really could be made of crystal	NeedleCast	Mar-01-09 01:52 PM	#146
another uninformed, hostile attack, reinforcing the cliches, proving the point. well done!	omega minimo	Mar-01-09 01:59 PM	#149
Who are you to make that claim?	NeedleCast	Mar-01-09 02:07 PM	#156
Stunning that they're still not actually saying anything	omega minimo	Mar-01-09 02:09 PM	#159
Awwwwww, poor little persecuted you	NeedleCast	Mar-01-09 02:14 PM	#166
Translation into English: "Help! Help! I can't defend my ideas!"	tanngrisnir3	Mar-01-09 02:39 PM	#188
you win. feel "better" now?	omega minimo	Mar-01-09 02:46 PM	#194
There is nothing to win here, child, and nothing to feel better about.	tanngrisnir3	Mar-01-09 02:51 PM	#204
I dont think Omega is making many converts today	Vanje	Mar-01-09 02:13 PM	#165
Unfortunately it won't stop him/her from posting this same thread	NeedleCast	Mar-01-09 02:54 PM	#207
Well you know what Albert Einstein said:	Starry Messenger	Mar-01-09 03:05 PM	#220
"I'm not willing to "open up" and embrace a pile of stupid." I agree completely.	Odin2005	Mar-01-09 02:20 PM	#173
It never gets to that point. Don't pretend. The attacks END discussion, not begin it.	omega minimo	Mar-01-09 02:28 PM	#181
That's like the Creationists and IDiots saying that scientists are "trying to silence them".	Odin2005	Mar-01-09 02:47 PM	#195
Not at all. But that rationale makes people think they can belligerently shut down discussion	omega minimo	Mar-01-09 02:51 PM	#202
There is no rational for your woo-woo	NeedleCast	Mar-01-09 03:04 PM	#218
You have a need to attack gays in order to defend some idea or other of yours?	bluedawg12	Mar-01-09 02:13 PM	#164
Never.	omega minimo	Mar-01-09 02:29 PM	#182
Albert would be slapping all the woo woos quoting him silly.	Odin2005	Mar-01-09 01:33 PM	#133
Good morning, Odin2005. Nice to see you. How can his own quotes not mean what he said?	omega minimo	Mar-01-09 01:36 PM	#137
Accusing critics of woo of being "closed-minded" is a typical lame woo argument.	Odin2005	Mar-01-09 01:49 PM	#145
You're smart enough to bother actually reading the OP and trying to grasp "common ground"	omega minimo	Mar-01-09 02:10 PM	#161
Einstein would be impressed,	Vanje	Mar-01-09 02:00 PM	#150
Yup. IMO his talk about imagination was a criticism of what became Logical Positivism.	Odin2005	Mar-01-09 02:16 PM	#168
You First.	OPERATIONMINDCRIME	Mar-01-09 02:03 PM	#153
the trick is	JitterbugPerfume	Mar-01-09 02:41 PM	#191
Thanks Tom!	omega minimo	Mar-01-09 02:47 PM	#196
200 replies and only 12 recs? Well, here's another. n/t	Greyhound	Mar-01-09 02:51 PM	#203
locking	maddezmom	Mar-01-09 03:06 PM	#221

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