| 9. The "it's their money they can do with it what they want" crowd will be here shortly. |
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I agree with you by the way.
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| -Can we agree on this one: "No more McMansions"! |
PM Martin |
Feb-23-09 09:34 PM |
#0 |
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I agree |
Skittles |
Feb-23-09 09:35 PM |
#1 |
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family of four... hah! |
Sen. Walter Sobchak |
Feb-23-09 09:39 PM |
#2 |
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Does she enjoy all of that space? |
PM Martin |
Feb-23-09 09:41 PM |
#4 |
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I will never understand what makes her tick |
Sen. Walter Sobchak |
Feb-23-09 09:44 PM |
#12 |
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Wow, she doesn't prefer to live in a teeny tiny closet? |
mainer |
Feb-24-09 12:53 PM |
#119 |
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Sorry, but I do not agree... |
CaliforniaPeggy |
Feb-23-09 09:40 PM |
#3 |
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That's huge |
HarukaTheTrophyWife |
Feb-23-09 10:18 PM |
#38 |
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I would agree if the rule only affected those financing the homes. If the |
harun |
Feb-24-09 09:12 AM |
#72 |
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Size is relative - 4,200 sq. ft. seems really big for 2 people |
RiverStone |
Feb-24-09 11:51 AM |
#106 |
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My wife and I and our five cats live in 272 sq feet. * |
cliffordu |
Feb-24-09 12:22 PM |
#113 |
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I don't know how you do that... |
CaliforniaPeggy |
Feb-24-09 01:57 PM |
#141 |
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Probably because they have to. |
Ignis |
Feb-24-09 02:26 PM |
#152 |
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Yep, we have to.... |
cliffordu |
Feb-24-09 05:01 PM |
#163 |
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Where do you keep ....... |
Vanje |
Feb-26-09 08:26 AM |
#185 |
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How many books can you read at one time? |
Vanje |
Feb-26-09 08:27 AM |
#186 |
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I'd rather live in an airstream than a giant beige mansion. |
Vanje |
Feb-26-09 08:22 AM |
#183 |
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If I had the means, I would build a 5000sf home... |
jmowreader |
Feb-23-09 09:41 PM |
#5 |
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That works nicely though. |
PM Martin |
Feb-23-09 09:44 PM |
#10 |
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(shrug) Unless suitably tasteless people with enough money want one... |
BlooInBloo |
Feb-23-09 09:42 PM |
#6 |
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A Reasonable Point Of View, Bloo |
ProfessorGAC |
Feb-24-09 05:23 AM |
#64 |
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They don't really seem to though. |
wickerwoman |
Feb-24-09 11:20 AM |
#98 |
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A fair-ish point. I'm all for zoning regs, putting constraints on what can be where... |
BlooInBloo |
Feb-24-09 08:44 PM |
#172 |
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I'd rather limit the number of homes allowed per acre or hectare. |
flvegan |
Feb-23-09 09:43 PM |
#7 |
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Me too. If someone wants to build big, they have the right. I like limitations on # of homes/area |
uppityperson |
Feb-24-09 03:13 PM |
#158 |
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Exactly. If someone wants to have a 4k sf house on an acre or two |
flvegan |
Feb-24-09 07:41 PM |
#169 |
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American's can no longer have it all; specially their particleboard.......... |
Double T |
Feb-23-09 09:43 PM |
#8 |
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The "it's their money they can do with it what they want" crowd will be here shortly. |
arcadian |
Feb-23-09 09:43 PM |
#9 |
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I like your signature line picture! |
PM Martin |
Feb-23-09 09:44 PM |
#11 |
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Damn, a bunch of them beat me to the post. |
arcadian |
Feb-23-09 09:54 PM |
#22 |
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Isn't it? |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Feb-23-09 09:55 PM |
#23 |
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Dave you seem to have your head |
marksmithfield |
Feb-24-09 09:00 AM |
#68 |
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Today anyway. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Feb-24-09 12:28 PM |
#116 |
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Just like they (or rather, HE) shat up my thread a year ago on this subject. |
HughBeaumont |
Feb-24-09 04:19 AM |
#59 |
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Here I'am |
Retired AF Dem |
Feb-24-09 09:18 AM |
#74 |
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When you start supporting me, you can dictate how I spend your gift. |
tangent90 |
Feb-24-09 10:17 AM |
#89 |
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And rightly so. Next you'll be telling me what type of car |
pretty |
Feb-24-09 11:37 AM |
#102 |
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But it looks like the "smug, judgmental, self-righteous" crowd got here first |
Matariki |
Feb-24-09 11:39 AM |
#103 |
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i don't agree at all. |
dysfunctional press |
Feb-23-09 09:45 PM |
#13 |
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Didn't the McMansion fad cause the current housing bubble though. |
PM Martin |
Feb-23-09 09:46 PM |
#15 |
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No, hedge funds and toxic speculation caused the housing crisis. |
readmoreoften |
Feb-23-09 09:49 PM |
#18 |
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here it's a total mix, in California you don't have to a home that big to pay a lot. |
AlCzervik |
Feb-23-09 09:51 PM |
#20 |
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Understood. |
PM Martin |
Feb-23-09 09:58 PM |
#29 |
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Banks & greedy Developers+overbuilding=empty houses and |
glinda |
Feb-23-09 10:51 PM |
#42 |
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if there are only two of them- wouldn't THEY be the houses that look out of place...? |
dysfunctional press |
Feb-23-09 11:28 PM |
#46 |
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True but they dwarf the other homes by size. And there are two more that went up. |
glinda |
Feb-24-09 02:42 PM |
#154 |
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not at all. |
dysfunctional press |
Feb-23-09 11:27 PM |
#45 |
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yes, but |
paulsby |
Feb-24-09 01:27 AM |
#51 |
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In addition, I might add that |
Thothmes |
Feb-24-09 07:37 PM |
#167 |
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well |
ravenna_windream |
Feb-23-09 09:46 PM |
#14 |
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No worries! I am not offended... |
CaliforniaPeggy |
Feb-23-09 10:02 PM |
#33 |
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Welcome to DU |
wryter2000 |
Feb-24-09 10:14 AM |
#85 |
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That's why we moved... |
pipi_k |
Feb-26-09 08:52 AM |
#187 |
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I think the economy's already taking care of that. |
readmoreoften |
Feb-23-09 09:48 PM |
#16 |
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Not unless they are going to house thousands of homeless people. |
lonestarnot |
Feb-23-09 09:49 PM |
#17 |
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Don't hate me. But this is what I'm building right now. |
Gregorian |
Feb-23-09 09:50 PM |
#19 |
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Nice! Modern but not tacky! |
PM Martin |
Feb-23-09 09:55 PM |
#24 |
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Don't ask. |
Gregorian |
Feb-23-09 10:01 PM |
#31 |
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So your arguments are aesthetic, not resource based? |
AngryAmish |
Feb-24-09 01:16 PM |
#126 |
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Nice - what's the floor plan like? |
csziggy |
Feb-23-09 09:58 PM |
#28 |
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I started out with the ICF idea, but went steel. |
Gregorian |
Feb-23-09 10:03 PM |
#35 |
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Nice floorplan. Swap the laundry and bath on the wing on the right |
csziggy |
Feb-23-09 11:11 PM |
#43 |
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100 acres!!11! No one ha a right to that much land!!1!! |
MindPilot |
Feb-24-09 12:05 PM |
#110 |
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Aim high. |
Gregorian |
Feb-24-09 12:23 PM |
#115 |
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4000 sq ft on 30 acres sounds about right for my wife and I and the dogs of course. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Feb-23-09 09:52 PM |
#21 |
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Are you able to afford the payments? |
PM Martin |
Feb-23-09 09:57 PM |
#26 |
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I don't see why not. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Feb-23-09 10:02 PM |
#32 |
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Income is important. |
PM Martin |
Feb-23-09 10:04 PM |
#36 |
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The mortgage default rate is still only around 10% nationwide. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Feb-23-09 10:12 PM |
#37 |
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And allow me to comment on townhomes, or condos. |
CaliforniaPeggy |
Feb-23-09 09:56 PM |
#25 |
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Problem isn't big houses, it's *where* they are being built |
Roadless |
Feb-24-09 12:42 AM |
#48 |
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Ah, I understand. |
CaliforniaPeggy |
Feb-24-09 12:48 AM |
#49 |
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Welcome to DU |
wryter2000 |
Feb-24-09 10:16 AM |
#87 |
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I didn't realize 4200 sq ft homes were necessary for pianos |
HarukaTheTrophyWife |
Feb-24-09 10:33 AM |
#94 |
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You know better than that. |
CaliforniaPeggy |
Feb-24-09 02:04 PM |
#145 |
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My dear CaliforniaPeggy, that is interesting |
HarukaTheTrophyWife |
Feb-24-09 02:17 PM |
#148 |
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Architects are paid to think of things like that... |
CaliforniaPeggy |
Feb-24-09 02:19 PM |
#149 |
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Yeah, my mom's house is really big, but it was just a regular contractor that did the additions |
HarukaTheTrophyWife |
Feb-24-09 02:22 PM |
#151 |
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You must be quite wealthy |
Vanje |
Feb-26-09 08:24 AM |
#184 |
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Around these parts... |
stillcool |
Feb-23-09 09:57 PM |
#27 |
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whatever floats your boat |
Mari333 |
Feb-23-09 09:59 PM |
#30 |
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My first beef about the McMansions I see is aesthetic in nature... |
misanthrope |
Feb-23-09 10:03 PM |
#34 |
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I hate McMansions because they |
ipfilter |
Feb-24-09 09:11 AM |
#71 |
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Two reasons for that |
MattBaggins |
Feb-24-09 09:26 AM |
#77 |
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Hence "McMansion" |
MattBaggins |
Feb-24-09 09:23 AM |
#76 |
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It kills me... |
misanthrope |
Feb-25-09 05:37 PM |
#182 |
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That's a good size if you live with your extended family |
CreekDog |
Feb-23-09 10:29 PM |
#39 |
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I am not for a ban of any kind. |
PM Martin |
Feb-23-09 10:30 PM |
#40 |
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in EVERY correction/crash |
paulsby |
Feb-24-09 01:30 AM |
#52 |
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No one is suggesting that |
MattBaggins |
Feb-24-09 09:29 AM |
#79 |
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it's pretty nice |
paulsby |
Feb-24-09 01:57 PM |
#142 |
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kick |
PM Martin |
Feb-23-09 10:39 PM |
#41 |
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Nice of you to decide how others should live |
Missy Vixen |
Feb-23-09 11:26 PM |
#44 |
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I was glad to see a couple of real old bungalow style homes.. |
Historic NY |
Feb-24-09 12:34 AM |
#47 |
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why? |
paulsby |
Feb-24-09 01:23 AM |
#50 |
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You Are A Riot! Been Reading You For A Couple Of Days. Bye Now. |
Binka |
Feb-24-09 02:01 AM |
#55 |
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ph33r my mcmansion nt |
paulsby |
Feb-24-09 02:21 AM |
#56 |
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congratulations! |
renate |
Feb-24-09 11:12 AM |
#97 |
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thank you |
paulsby |
Feb-24-09 02:00 PM |
#143 |
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A-fuckin'-men! |
XemaSab |
Feb-24-09 01:35 AM |
#53 |
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They are so poorly built, they will be gone soon, and most have black mold already due to |
L. Coyote |
Feb-24-09 01:42 AM |
#54 |
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I agree. My friend bought one several years back -- it's a huge house, but when someone on the |
rvablue |
Feb-24-09 09:22 AM |
#75 |
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It is still a huge drain on resources and energy |
justaregularperson |
Feb-24-09 02:27 AM |
#57 |
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if people can afford it their choice |
rebecca_herman |
Feb-24-09 03:06 AM |
#58 |
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People here are doing vanity posts over the size of houses? Yeah, this |
acmavm |
Feb-24-09 04:35 AM |
#60 |
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I think there's some question as to what a McMansion is. |
LeftyMom |
Feb-24-09 04:39 AM |
#61 |
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sick of the teardowns |
bobmorr1 |
Feb-24-09 04:58 AM |
#62 |
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Until they write the tacky, gaudy, slow motion breakdowns of the McNouveaux Riches |
bridgit |
Feb-24-09 05:17 AM |
#63 |
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People want big stuff |
pnutbutr |
Feb-24-09 06:40 AM |
#65 |
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When I was young and had a family.... |
Hepburn |
Feb-24-09 08:08 AM |
#66 |
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Deleted sub-thread |
Name removed |
Feb-24-09 08:58 AM |
#67 |
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No, sorry, I don't agree at all |
slackmaster |
Feb-24-09 09:02 AM |
#69 |
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I don't need 7000 feet of space |
MattBaggins |
Feb-24-09 09:10 AM |
#70 |
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We are never going to live in a sustainable world. Never. |
Evoman |
Feb-24-09 09:16 AM |
#73 |
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No! No restrictions! No limit. No morals. |
RadiationTherapy |
Feb-24-09 09:29 AM |
#78 |
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On the other hand, having a huge mansion is a dead giveaway and a future target for acts of revenge. |
L0oniX |
Feb-24-09 09:29 AM |
#80 |
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"What gives you the right to tell others how to live?" |
Bill McBlueState |
Feb-24-09 09:36 AM |
#81 |
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Changing the zoning laws is happening. |
Tracer |
Feb-24-09 11:24 AM |
#100 |
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I think +/-3400' would be about right. Plus a garage w/heated storage, or a basement. |
jmg257 |
Feb-24-09 09:49 AM |
#82 |
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The government should force those people to share with other families |
Xenotime |
Feb-24-09 09:52 AM |
#83 |
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Is that your Modest Proposal? |
tangent90 |
Feb-24-09 10:22 AM |
#90 |
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What's fair about it? |
jmg257 |
Feb-24-09 10:27 AM |
#91 |
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Sign me up for an ocean view bedroom in Hyannis Port. n/t |
cherokeeprogressive |
Feb-24-09 11:47 AM |
#105 |
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A modest house is still a house. |
Deep13 |
Feb-24-09 09:55 AM |
#84 |
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I think someone should have the right to buy any kind of house they can afford. |
tangent90 |
Feb-24-09 10:15 AM |
#86 |
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I totally agree with you |
ChickMagic |
Feb-24-09 10:17 AM |
#88 |
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Tom and Doris in their McMansion and 3 cars. They have 4 kids who all grow up and |
paparush |
Feb-24-09 10:31 AM |
#92 |
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That's a knife that cuts both ways, friend. |
cherokeeprogressive |
Feb-24-09 11:58 AM |
#107 |
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Yep and what is wrong with success? |
marksmithfield |
Feb-24-09 01:17 PM |
#128 |
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Well, what happens as China and India and the rest of the devolping world |
paparush |
Feb-25-09 09:02 AM |
#179 |
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I agree and I don't think people get your point |
gollygee |
Feb-24-09 10:32 AM |
#93 |
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You'd LOVE the one built on my block in 2007 - |
northofdenali |
Feb-24-09 10:53 AM |
#95 |
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Oh I don't know |
guitar man |
Feb-24-09 11:07 AM |
#96 |
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Interesting how many reacted as if you said McMansions should be outlawed |
Gormy Cuss |
Feb-24-09 11:23 AM |
#99 |
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"as opposed to a simple agreement that they're not a trend to be promoted" |
dysfunctional press |
Feb-24-09 01:23 PM |
#133 |
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The tone is more like a rallying cry IMHO. |
Gormy Cuss |
Feb-24-09 02:56 PM |
#157 |
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excuse me? I think people should be able to reside |
pretty |
Feb-24-09 11:36 AM |
#101 |
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I agree but just think you should consider |
MattBaggins |
Feb-24-09 12:18 PM |
#112 |
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Yes, you should be able to. As long as you pay a premium. |
mainer |
Feb-24-09 12:52 PM |
#118 |
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So premiums are OK? |
MattBaggins |
Feb-24-09 02:45 PM |
#156 |
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Here's another thread on this topic: "Why do people need such giant houses?" |
Arugula Latte |
Feb-24-09 11:45 AM |
#104 |
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While I personally agree, threads critical of lifestyle choices tend to get nasty |
RiverStone |
Feb-24-09 12:02 PM |
#108 |
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I think it's better to state your case and point out the hypocrites on DU. Who really cares if |
KittyWampus |
Feb-24-09 12:08 PM |
#111 |
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Why? |
NeedleCast |
Feb-24-09 12:04 PM |
#109 |
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Or how about |
MattBaggins |
Feb-24-09 12:22 PM |
#114 |
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Thats fine, dialogue is fine |
NeedleCast |
Feb-24-09 01:20 PM |
#130 |
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Been working on drawings for 4 units built around a communal 'plaza' |
havocmom |
Feb-24-09 12:46 PM |
#117 |
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Please Do...... |
scd1008 |
Feb-24-09 01:17 PM |
#127 |
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welcome to DU! |
renate |
Feb-24-09 02:15 PM |
#147 |
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One problem is municipal government |
Terran |
Feb-24-09 01:04 PM |
#120 |
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such a salient point. It also ups the amount of property tax collected. |
KittyWampus |
Feb-24-09 01:09 PM |
#121 |
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Yes, property tax is probably the main motivation. |
Terran |
Feb-24-09 01:14 PM |
#123 |
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I honestly don't care how big a house someone else has. |
SmileyRose |
Feb-24-09 01:13 PM |
#122 |
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It really bothers me to see pretentious mansions |
RiverStone |
Feb-24-09 01:36 PM |
#136 |
| -
pretentious is in the eye of the beholder. |
SmileyRose |
Feb-24-09 02:13 PM |
#146 |
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true..and yet |
RiverStone |
Feb-24-09 03:53 PM |
#159 |
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Conservation wise |
SmileyRose |
Feb-24-09 07:57 PM |
#170 |
| -
Thank You, Thank You, Thank You.......... |
scd1008 |
Feb-24-09 01:14 PM |
#124 |
| -
What sort of sneering, elitist bullshit is this? |
AngryAmish |
Feb-24-09 01:15 PM |
#125 |
| -
Amish |
scd1008 |
Feb-24-09 01:23 PM |
#131 |
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Then why are their more Amish now than ever before? |
AngryAmish |
Feb-24-09 01:28 PM |
#134 |
| -
Pardon me......... |
scd1008 |
Feb-24-09 01:38 PM |
#138 |
| -
how big of a house is acceptable to you? |
dem mba |
Feb-24-09 01:20 PM |
#129 |
| -
Building giant homes in the suburbs is environmentally irresponsible. |
alarimer |
Feb-24-09 01:23 PM |
#132 |
| -
Agreed....... |
scd1008 |
Feb-24-09 01:52 PM |
#139 |
| -
High density housing has it's own downside. |
SmileyRose |
Feb-24-09 02:02 PM |
#144 |
| -
No - I don't agree |
leftynyc |
Feb-24-09 01:31 PM |
#135 |
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I always preferred a smaller place and more land because I prefer to spend |
Cleita |
Feb-24-09 01:37 PM |
#137 |
| -
Domes for all! |
Fireweed247 |
Feb-24-09 01:53 PM |
#140 |
| -
Side of a hill would not be my first choice of building sites thought. |
Thothmes |
Feb-24-09 07:40 PM |
#168 |
| -
Tax property by the square foot. |
rug |
Feb-24-09 02:21 PM |
#150 |
| -
land as well? It would certainly discourage farms. |
mainer |
Feb-24-09 02:35 PM |
#153 |
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Agri land is taxed at a different rate. n/t |
EFerrari |
Feb-24-09 04:33 PM |
#162 |
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We live near the McMansions in our area |
Stargazer09 |
Feb-24-09 02:43 PM |
#155 |
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space is absolutely a part of our unsustainable lifestyle |
noiretextatique |
Feb-24-09 04:14 PM |
#160 |
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I Have No Desire for a Huge House |
On the Road |
Feb-24-09 04:31 PM |
#161 |
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Sorry, but I have no idea what you are talking about. What are you proposing?? nm |
rhett o rick |
Feb-24-09 07:13 PM |
#164 |
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I don't so much think it's always wrong but |
OnionPatch |
Feb-24-09 07:18 PM |
#165 |
| -
"What is wrong with a Town home? A high rise condo? An Apartment?" Or a hive? |
cherokeeprogressive |
Feb-24-09 07:32 PM |
#166 |
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I would never want to clean or furnish a house bigger than 2000 sq ft, or clean more than 2 toilets. |
TwilightGardener |
Feb-24-09 08:43 PM |
#171 |
| -
now you're talking! |
dana_b |
Feb-24-09 09:09 PM |
#173 |
| -
I agree |
Retired AF Dem |
Feb-24-09 09:42 PM |
#176 |
| -
I know how you feel. |
PM Martin |
Feb-25-09 04:18 PM |
#181 |
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McMansions & Hummers! It is our business as both are wasteful |
kaygore |
Feb-24-09 09:41 PM |
#174 |
| -
I'd like to see the end of residential property as an investment |
Dumak |
Feb-24-09 09:42 PM |
#175 |
| -
Yes, except for people with 6 kids and then miraculously 8 more... |
CLANG |
Feb-24-09 09:44 PM |
#177 |
| -
Now I understand why there are Republicans... Stupid Threads Like This |
digidigido |
Feb-24-09 09:51 PM |
#178 |
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kick |
PM Martin |
Feb-25-09 04:17 PM |
#180 |
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Not talking specifically about McMansions here, but the whole housing thing... |
pipi_k |
Feb-26-09 09:03 AM |
#188 |
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