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7. I'd rather limit the number of homes allowed per acre or hectare.
I don't really have a problem with folks wanting a bigger home, but the impact of the number of folks/homes in a limited area is a concern. I'd love to have a bigger house with a 4 car garage (filled with choice automobiles of both American and Italian marque) and a media room. No idea when I'd be able to afford such a thing, especially since I'd insist on it being as eco-friendly as possible. But, if I could afford it, I'd like a big home. I wouldn't want to limit folks in their affordable choices in housing.
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  -Can we agree on this one: "No more McMansions"! PM Martin  Feb-23-09 09:34 PM   #0 
  - I agree  Skittles   Feb-23-09 09:35 PM   #1 
  - family of four... hah!  Sen. Walter Sobchak   Feb-23-09 09:39 PM   #2 
  - Does she enjoy all of that space?  PM Martin   Feb-23-09 09:41 PM   #4 
     - I will never understand what makes her tick  Sen. Walter Sobchak   Feb-23-09 09:44 PM   #12 
        - Wow, she doesn't prefer to live in a teeny tiny closet?  mainer   Feb-24-09 12:53 PM   #119 
  - Sorry, but I do not agree...  CaliforniaPeggy   Feb-23-09 09:40 PM   #3 
  - That's huge  HarukaTheTrophyWife   Feb-23-09 10:18 PM   #38 
  - I would agree if the rule only affected those financing the homes. If the  harun   Feb-24-09 09:12 AM   #72 
  - Size is relative - 4,200 sq. ft. seems really big for 2 people  RiverStone   Feb-24-09 11:51 AM   #106 
  - My wife and I and our five cats live in 272 sq feet. *  cliffordu   Feb-24-09 12:22 PM   #113 
     - I don't know how you do that...  CaliforniaPeggy   Feb-24-09 01:57 PM   #141 
     - Probably because they have to.  Ignis   Feb-24-09 02:26 PM   #152 
     - Yep, we have to....  cliffordu   Feb-24-09 05:01 PM   #163 
     - Where do you keep .......  Vanje   Feb-26-09 08:26 AM   #185 
     - How many books can you read at one time?  Vanje   Feb-26-09 08:27 AM   #186 
     - I'd rather live in an airstream than a giant beige mansion.  Vanje   Feb-26-09 08:22 AM   #183 
  - If I had the means, I would build a 5000sf home...  jmowreader   Feb-23-09 09:41 PM   #5 
  - That works nicely though.  PM Martin   Feb-23-09 09:44 PM   #10 
  - (shrug) Unless suitably tasteless people with enough money want one...  BlooInBloo   Feb-23-09 09:42 PM   #6 
  - A Reasonable Point Of View, Bloo  ProfessorGAC   Feb-24-09 05:23 AM   #64 
  - They don't really seem to though.  wickerwoman   Feb-24-09 11:20 AM   #98 
     - A fair-ish point. I'm all for zoning regs, putting constraints on what can be where...  BlooInBloo   Feb-24-09 08:44 PM   #172 
  - I'd rather limit the number of homes allowed per acre or hectare.  flvegan   Feb-23-09 09:43 PM   #7 
  - Me too. If someone wants to build big, they have the right. I like limitations on # of homes/area  uppityperson   Feb-24-09 03:13 PM   #158 
     - Exactly. If someone wants to have a 4k sf house on an acre or two  flvegan   Feb-24-09 07:41 PM   #169 
  - American's can no longer have it all; specially their particleboard..........  Double T   Feb-23-09 09:43 PM   #8 
  - The "it's their money they can do with it what they want" crowd will be here shortly.  arcadian   Feb-23-09 09:43 PM   #9 
  - I like your signature line picture!  PM Martin   Feb-23-09 09:44 PM   #11 
  - Damn, a bunch of them beat me to the post.  arcadian   Feb-23-09 09:54 PM   #22 
  - Isn't it?  Fire_Medic_Dave   Feb-23-09 09:55 PM   #23 
  - Dave you seem to have your head  marksmithfield   Feb-24-09 09:00 AM   #68 
     - Today anyway.  Fire_Medic_Dave   Feb-24-09 12:28 PM   #116 
  - Just like they (or rather, HE) shat up my thread a year ago on this subject.  HughBeaumont   Feb-24-09 04:19 AM   #59 
  - Here I'am  Retired AF Dem   Feb-24-09 09:18 AM   #74 
  - When you start supporting me, you can dictate how I spend your gift.  tangent90   Feb-24-09 10:17 AM   #89 
  - And rightly so. Next you'll be telling me what type of car  pretty   Feb-24-09 11:37 AM   #102 
  - But it looks like the "smug, judgmental, self-righteous" crowd got here first  Matariki   Feb-24-09 11:39 AM   #103 
  - i don't agree at all.  dysfunctional press   Feb-23-09 09:45 PM   #13 
  - Didn't the McMansion fad cause the current housing bubble though.  PM Martin   Feb-23-09 09:46 PM   #15 
     - No, hedge funds and toxic speculation caused the housing crisis.  readmoreoften   Feb-23-09 09:49 PM   #18 
     - here it's a total mix, in California you don't have to a home that big to pay a lot.  AlCzervik   Feb-23-09 09:51 PM   #20 
     - Understood.  PM Martin   Feb-23-09 09:58 PM   #29 
     - Banks & greedy Developers+overbuilding=empty houses and  glinda   Feb-23-09 10:51 PM   #42 
     - if there are only two of them- wouldn't THEY be the houses that look out of place...?  dysfunctional press   Feb-23-09 11:28 PM   #46 
        - True but they dwarf the other homes by size. And there are two more that went up.  glinda   Feb-24-09 02:42 PM   #154 
     - not at all.  dysfunctional press   Feb-23-09 11:27 PM   #45 
     - yes, but  paulsby   Feb-24-09 01:27 AM   #51 
        - In addition, I might add that  Thothmes   Feb-24-09 07:37 PM   #167 
  - well  ravenna_windream   Feb-23-09 09:46 PM   #14 
  - No worries! I am not offended...  CaliforniaPeggy   Feb-23-09 10:02 PM   #33 
  - Welcome to DU  wryter2000   Feb-24-09 10:14 AM   #85 
  - That's why we moved...  pipi_k   Feb-26-09 08:52 AM   #187 
  - I think the economy's already taking care of that.  readmoreoften   Feb-23-09 09:48 PM   #16 
  - Not unless they are going to house thousands of homeless people.  lonestarnot   Feb-23-09 09:49 PM   #17 
  - Don't hate me. But this is what I'm building right now.  Gregorian   Feb-23-09 09:50 PM   #19 
  - Nice! Modern but not tacky!  PM Martin   Feb-23-09 09:55 PM   #24 
  - Don't ask.  Gregorian   Feb-23-09 10:01 PM   #31 
  - So your arguments are aesthetic, not resource based?  AngryAmish   Feb-24-09 01:16 PM   #126 
  - Nice - what's the floor plan like?  csziggy   Feb-23-09 09:58 PM   #28 
  - I started out with the ICF idea, but went steel.  Gregorian   Feb-23-09 10:03 PM   #35 
     - Nice floorplan. Swap the laundry and bath on the wing on the right  csziggy   Feb-23-09 11:11 PM   #43 
  - 100 acres!!11! No one ha a right to that much land!!1!!  MindPilot   Feb-24-09 12:05 PM   #110 
     - Aim high.  Gregorian   Feb-24-09 12:23 PM   #115 
  - 4000 sq ft on 30 acres sounds about right for my wife and I and the dogs of course.  Fire_Medic_Dave   Feb-23-09 09:52 PM   #21 
  - Are you able to afford the payments?  PM Martin   Feb-23-09 09:57 PM   #26 
     - I don't see why not.  Fire_Medic_Dave   Feb-23-09 10:02 PM   #32 
        - Income is important.  PM Martin   Feb-23-09 10:04 PM   #36 
           - The mortgage default rate is still only around 10% nationwide.  Fire_Medic_Dave   Feb-23-09 10:12 PM   #37 
  - And allow me to comment on townhomes, or condos.  CaliforniaPeggy   Feb-23-09 09:56 PM   #25 
  - Problem isn't big houses, it's *where* they are being built  Roadless   Feb-24-09 12:42 AM   #48 
  - Ah, I understand.  CaliforniaPeggy   Feb-24-09 12:48 AM   #49 
  - Welcome to DU  wryter2000   Feb-24-09 10:16 AM   #87 
  - I didn't realize 4200 sq ft homes were necessary for pianos  HarukaTheTrophyWife   Feb-24-09 10:33 AM   #94 
  - You know better than that.  CaliforniaPeggy   Feb-24-09 02:04 PM   #145 
     - My dear CaliforniaPeggy, that is interesting  HarukaTheTrophyWife   Feb-24-09 02:17 PM   #148 
        - Architects are paid to think of things like that...  CaliforniaPeggy   Feb-24-09 02:19 PM   #149 
           - Yeah, my mom's house is really big, but it was just a regular contractor that did the additions  HarukaTheTrophyWife   Feb-24-09 02:22 PM   #151 
  - You must be quite wealthy  Vanje   Feb-26-09 08:24 AM   #184 
  - Around these parts...  stillcool   Feb-23-09 09:57 PM   #27 
  - whatever floats your boat  Mari333   Feb-23-09 09:59 PM   #30 
  - My first beef about the McMansions I see is aesthetic in nature...  misanthrope   Feb-23-09 10:03 PM   #34 
  - I hate McMansions because they  ipfilter   Feb-24-09 09:11 AM   #71 
  - Two reasons for that  MattBaggins   Feb-24-09 09:26 AM   #77 
  - Hence "McMansion"  MattBaggins   Feb-24-09 09:23 AM   #76 
     - It kills me...  misanthrope   Feb-25-09 05:37 PM   #182 
  - That's a good size if you live with your extended family  CreekDog   Feb-23-09 10:29 PM   #39 
  - I am not for a ban of any kind.  PM Martin   Feb-23-09 10:30 PM   #40 
     - in EVERY correction/crash  paulsby   Feb-24-09 01:30 AM   #52 
        - No one is suggesting that  MattBaggins   Feb-24-09 09:29 AM   #79 
           - it's pretty nice  paulsby   Feb-24-09 01:57 PM   #142 
  - kick  PM Martin   Feb-23-09 10:39 PM   #41 
  - Nice of you to decide how others should live  Missy Vixen   Feb-23-09 11:26 PM   #44 
  - I was glad to see a couple of real old bungalow style homes..  Historic NY   Feb-24-09 12:34 AM   #47 
  - why?  paulsby   Feb-24-09 01:23 AM   #50 
  - You Are A Riot! Been Reading You For A Couple Of Days. Bye Now.  Binka   Feb-24-09 02:01 AM   #55 
  - ph33r my mcmansion nt  paulsby   Feb-24-09 02:21 AM   #56 
  - congratulations!  renate   Feb-24-09 11:12 AM   #97 
     - thank you  paulsby   Feb-24-09 02:00 PM   #143 
  - A-fuckin'-men!  XemaSab   Feb-24-09 01:35 AM   #53 
  - They are so poorly built, they will be gone soon, and most have black mold already due to  L. Coyote   Feb-24-09 01:42 AM   #54 
  - I agree. My friend bought one several years back -- it's a huge house, but when someone on the  rvablue   Feb-24-09 09:22 AM   #75 
  - It is still a huge drain on resources and energy  justaregularperson   Feb-24-09 02:27 AM   #57 
  - if people can afford it their choice  rebecca_herman   Feb-24-09 03:06 AM   #58 
  - People here are doing vanity posts over the size of houses? Yeah, this  acmavm   Feb-24-09 04:35 AM   #60 
  - I think there's some question as to what a McMansion is.  LeftyMom   Feb-24-09 04:39 AM   #61 
  - sick of the teardowns  bobmorr1   Feb-24-09 04:58 AM   #62 
  - Until they write the tacky, gaudy, slow motion breakdowns of the McNouveaux Riches  bridgit   Feb-24-09 05:17 AM   #63 
  - People want big stuff  pnutbutr   Feb-24-09 06:40 AM   #65 
  - When I was young and had a family....  Hepburn   Feb-24-09 08:08 AM   #66 
  - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Feb-24-09 08:58 AM   #67 
  - No, sorry, I don't agree at all  slackmaster   Feb-24-09 09:02 AM   #69 
  - I don't need 7000 feet of space  MattBaggins   Feb-24-09 09:10 AM   #70 
  - We are never going to live in a sustainable world. Never.  Evoman   Feb-24-09 09:16 AM   #73 
  - No! No restrictions! No limit. No morals.  RadiationTherapy   Feb-24-09 09:29 AM   #78 
  - On the other hand, having a huge mansion is a dead giveaway and a future target for acts of revenge.  L0oniX   Feb-24-09 09:29 AM   #80 
  - "What gives you the right to tell others how to live?"  Bill McBlueState   Feb-24-09 09:36 AM   #81 
  - Changing the zoning laws is happening.  Tracer   Feb-24-09 11:24 AM   #100 
  - I think +/-3400' would be about right. Plus a garage w/heated storage, or a basement.  jmg257   Feb-24-09 09:49 AM   #82 
  - The government should force those people to share with other families  Xenotime   Feb-24-09 09:52 AM   #83 
  - Is that your Modest Proposal?  tangent90   Feb-24-09 10:22 AM   #90 
  - What's fair about it?  jmg257   Feb-24-09 10:27 AM   #91 
  - Sign me up for an ocean view bedroom in Hyannis Port. n/t  cherokeeprogressive   Feb-24-09 11:47 AM   #105 
  - A modest house is still a house.  Deep13   Feb-24-09 09:55 AM   #84 
  - I think someone should have the right to buy any kind of house they can afford.  tangent90   Feb-24-09 10:15 AM   #86 
  - I totally agree with you  ChickMagic   Feb-24-09 10:17 AM   #88 
  - Tom and Doris in their McMansion and 3 cars. They have 4 kids who all grow up and  paparush   Feb-24-09 10:31 AM   #92 
  - That's a knife that cuts both ways, friend.  cherokeeprogressive   Feb-24-09 11:58 AM   #107 
  - Yep and what is wrong with success?  marksmithfield   Feb-24-09 01:17 PM   #128 
     - Well, what happens as China and India and the rest of the devolping world  paparush   Feb-25-09 09:02 AM   #179 
  - I agree and I don't think people get your point  gollygee   Feb-24-09 10:32 AM   #93 
  - You'd LOVE the one built on my block in 2007 -  northofdenali   Feb-24-09 10:53 AM   #95 
  - Oh I don't know  guitar man   Feb-24-09 11:07 AM   #96 
  - Interesting how many reacted as if you said McMansions should be outlawed  Gormy Cuss   Feb-24-09 11:23 AM   #99 
  - "as opposed to a simple agreement that they're not a trend to be promoted"  dysfunctional press   Feb-24-09 01:23 PM   #133 
     - The tone is more like a rallying cry IMHO.  Gormy Cuss   Feb-24-09 02:56 PM   #157 
  - excuse me? I think people should be able to reside  pretty   Feb-24-09 11:36 AM   #101 
  - I agree but just think you should consider  MattBaggins   Feb-24-09 12:18 PM   #112 
     - Yes, you should be able to. As long as you pay a premium.  mainer   Feb-24-09 12:52 PM   #118 
        - So premiums are OK?  MattBaggins   Feb-24-09 02:45 PM   #156 
  - Here's another thread on this topic: "Why do people need such giant houses?"  Arugula Latte   Feb-24-09 11:45 AM   #104 
  - While I personally agree, threads critical of lifestyle choices tend to get nasty  RiverStone   Feb-24-09 12:02 PM   #108 
  - I think it's better to state your case and point out the hypocrites on DU. Who really cares if  KittyWampus   Feb-24-09 12:08 PM   #111 
  - Why?  NeedleCast   Feb-24-09 12:04 PM   #109 
  - Or how about  MattBaggins   Feb-24-09 12:22 PM   #114 
     - Thats fine, dialogue is fine  NeedleCast   Feb-24-09 01:20 PM   #130 
  - Been working on drawings for 4 units built around a communal 'plaza'  havocmom   Feb-24-09 12:46 PM   #117 
  - Please Do......  scd1008   Feb-24-09 01:17 PM   #127 
     - welcome to DU!  renate   Feb-24-09 02:15 PM   #147 
  - One problem is municipal government  Terran   Feb-24-09 01:04 PM   #120 
  - such a salient point. It also ups the amount of property tax collected.  KittyWampus   Feb-24-09 01:09 PM   #121 
     - Yes, property tax is probably the main motivation.  Terran   Feb-24-09 01:14 PM   #123 
  - I honestly don't care how big a house someone else has.  SmileyRose   Feb-24-09 01:13 PM   #122 
  - It really bothers me to see pretentious mansions  RiverStone   Feb-24-09 01:36 PM   #136 
     - pretentious is in the eye of the beholder.  SmileyRose   Feb-24-09 02:13 PM   #146 
        - true..and yet  RiverStone   Feb-24-09 03:53 PM   #159 
           - Conservation wise  SmileyRose   Feb-24-09 07:57 PM   #170 
  - Thank You, Thank You, Thank You..........  scd1008   Feb-24-09 01:14 PM   #124 
  - What sort of sneering, elitist bullshit is this?  AngryAmish   Feb-24-09 01:15 PM   #125 
  - Amish  scd1008   Feb-24-09 01:23 PM   #131 
     - Then why are their more Amish now than ever before?  AngryAmish   Feb-24-09 01:28 PM   #134 
        - Pardon me.........  scd1008   Feb-24-09 01:38 PM   #138 
  - how big of a house is acceptable to you?  dem mba   Feb-24-09 01:20 PM   #129 
  - Building giant homes in the suburbs is environmentally irresponsible.  alarimer   Feb-24-09 01:23 PM   #132 
  - Agreed.......  scd1008   Feb-24-09 01:52 PM   #139 
  - High density housing has it's own downside.  SmileyRose   Feb-24-09 02:02 PM   #144 
  - No - I don't agree  leftynyc   Feb-24-09 01:31 PM   #135 
  - I always preferred a smaller place and more land because I prefer to spend  Cleita   Feb-24-09 01:37 PM   #137 
  - Domes for all!  Fireweed247   Feb-24-09 01:53 PM   #140 
  - Side of a hill would not be my first choice of building sites thought.  Thothmes   Feb-24-09 07:40 PM   #168 
  - Tax property by the square foot.  rug   Feb-24-09 02:21 PM   #150 
  - land as well? It would certainly discourage farms.  mainer   Feb-24-09 02:35 PM   #153 
     - Agri land is taxed at a different rate. n/t  EFerrari   Feb-24-09 04:33 PM   #162 
  - We live near the McMansions in our area  Stargazer09   Feb-24-09 02:43 PM   #155 
  - space is absolutely a part of our unsustainable lifestyle  noiretextatique   Feb-24-09 04:14 PM   #160 
  - I Have No Desire for a Huge House  On the Road   Feb-24-09 04:31 PM   #161 
  - Sorry, but I have no idea what you are talking about. What are you proposing?? nm  rhett o rick   Feb-24-09 07:13 PM   #164 
  - I don't so much think it's always wrong but  OnionPatch   Feb-24-09 07:18 PM   #165 
  - "What is wrong with a Town home? A high rise condo? An Apartment?" Or a hive?  cherokeeprogressive   Feb-24-09 07:32 PM   #166 
  - I would never want to clean or furnish a house bigger than 2000 sq ft, or clean more than 2 toilets.  TwilightGardener   Feb-24-09 08:43 PM   #171 
  - now you're talking!  dana_b   Feb-24-09 09:09 PM   #173 
  - I agree  Retired AF Dem   Feb-24-09 09:42 PM   #176 
     - I know how you feel.  PM Martin   Feb-25-09 04:18 PM   #181 
  - McMansions & Hummers! It is our business as both are wasteful  kaygore   Feb-24-09 09:41 PM   #174 
  - I'd like to see the end of residential property as an investment  Dumak   Feb-24-09 09:42 PM   #175 
  - Yes, except for people with 6 kids and then miraculously 8 more...  CLANG   Feb-24-09 09:44 PM   #177 
  - Now I understand why there are Republicans... Stupid Threads Like This  digidigido   Feb-24-09 09:51 PM   #178 
  - kick  PM Martin   Feb-25-09 04:17 PM   #180 
  - Not talking specifically about McMansions here, but the whole housing thing...  pipi_k   Feb-26-09 09:03 AM   #188 
 

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