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Fri Feb-20-09 03:36 PM
Response to Reply #39 |
| 55. Might I suggest you read each of the particular state's articles of secession |
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Might I suggest you read each of the particular state's articles of secession? The only commonality each has with the others are the points regarding the north's attitude towards slavery.
"Oh - and slavery is in the history books, but so is (sic) a host of other horrid things."
(Six of one, half a dozen of the other...)
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| -is this mascot offensive? |
Froward69 |
Feb-20-09 02:09 PM |
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The confederacy was and is offensive to many. |
mmonk |
Feb-20-09 02:11 PM |
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Granted |
Froward69 |
Feb-20-09 02:13 PM |
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If someone had a mascot that was a common soldier |
mmonk |
Feb-20-09 02:15 PM |
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I had a similar thought upon reading that post. |
Occam Bandage |
Feb-20-09 02:56 PM |
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someone is bound to be offended by everything at some point |
Belial |
Feb-20-09 02:12 PM |
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But much fewer are the instances... |
LanternWaste |
Feb-20-09 02:15 PM |
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Dude... |
kirby |
Feb-20-09 02:13 PM |
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KSM has more of a party on top with his 'do, though! nt |
MADem |
Feb-20-09 02:16 PM |
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i would move to the district that used carl for a mascot.. |
frylock |
Feb-20-09 04:04 PM |
#72 |
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Give that dude a bottle of Nair. |
Deja Q |
Feb-20-09 05:21 PM |
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it looks like Abe Lincoln in a confederate uniform. |
MADem |
Feb-20-09 02:14 PM |
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the new one |
Froward69 |
Feb-20-09 02:19 PM |
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Hell, if you want to keep the REBEL name, make your mascot an image of James Dean. |
MADem |
Feb-20-09 02:30 PM |
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Denver has a rich heritage of fighting for the Confederacy. |
HiFructosePronSyrup |
Feb-20-09 02:15 PM |
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True |
Froward69 |
Feb-20-09 02:24 PM |
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My high school, in Aurora, |
enlightenment |
Feb-20-09 02:31 PM |
#16 |
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Our mascot was the Jolly Green Giant.. |
Hawkeye-X |
Feb-20-09 10:57 PM |
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I don't think it's offensive |
NeedleCast |
Feb-20-09 02:16 PM |
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Yeah. get rid of it. |
Liberal_in_LA |
Feb-20-09 02:19 PM |
#12 |
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THIS one sure is: |
Captain Hilts |
Feb-20-09 02:23 PM |
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Maybe if it were thought up by decendents of British Protestants |
mmonk |
Feb-20-09 02:35 PM |
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bah, distasteful is distasteful.... |
iamthebandfanman |
Feb-21-09 12:40 AM |
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How many Irish attend and run Notre Dame? Make it Fightin' Catholics instead. nt |
Captain Hilts |
Feb-21-09 04:00 AM |
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that's offensive to bald men, short people, Irish, people who wear green. |
Liberal_in_LA |
Feb-20-09 09:35 PM |
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You actually refer to your siblings as "mulatto"?!?!?!?!?! Oh. My. No wonder you're not offended. |
rvablue |
Feb-20-09 02:35 PM |
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My thoughts exactly. n/t |
geardaddy |
Feb-20-09 02:48 PM |
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I can see changing it. "mulatto siblings"? Wtf? |
uppityperson |
Feb-20-09 02:39 PM |
#19 |
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Obviously people found it offensive. |
noamnety |
Feb-20-09 02:43 PM |
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"Mulatto?" |
HarukaTheTrophyWife |
Feb-20-09 02:44 PM |
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lol |
JVS |
Feb-20-09 06:24 PM |
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Ayuh |
GreenPartyVoter |
Feb-21-09 10:27 AM |
#128 |
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I view it as divisive, but not offensive, although I understand why some people |
Uncle Joe |
Feb-20-09 02:45 PM |
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It's time to change anyway. Since you ask, yes, an Armed Insurgent is |
crikkett |
Feb-20-09 02:46 PM |
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I have more important things to be offended by, frankly. |
Kalyke |
Feb-20-09 02:50 PM |
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they should have changed it years ago |
fishwax |
Feb-20-09 02:51 PM |
#26 |
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I have to confess that the old mascot does not bother me |
LibertyLover |
Feb-20-09 02:52 PM |
#27 |
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Your husband's uniform is correct |
Zomby Woof |
Feb-21-09 12:47 AM |
#113 |
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Actually in 1864, the Confederate Army adopted |
Thothmes |
Feb-21-09 05:23 AM |
#119 |
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The Confederacy was a nation founded on the right to own people as slaves, |
Occam Bandage |
Feb-20-09 02:53 PM |
#28 |
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Hmmm... considering most people who fought in that war |
Kalyke |
Feb-20-09 02:58 PM |
#31 |
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Just because the sheeple didn't know they were defending slavery |
EFerrari |
Feb-20-09 03:01 PM |
#33 |
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But, in their minds, they weren't defending slavery. |
Kalyke |
Feb-20-09 03:13 PM |
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That is an absolute crock. |
Occam Bandage |
Feb-20-09 03:19 PM |
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Absolutely right. By the way, my teachers NEVER spelled out what OTHER |
DevonRex |
Feb-20-09 03:24 PM |
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And history is taught from the point of view of the war winner. |
Kalyke |
Feb-20-09 03:52 PM |
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Crock yourself. |
Kalyke |
Feb-20-09 03:28 PM |
#45 |
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"southern bash"? |
fishwax |
Feb-20-09 03:36 PM |
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No it is not. And I was born and raised in the south. It was about slavery. nt |
DevonRex |
Feb-20-09 03:38 PM |
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Well, not ALL about slavery. |
Fire1 |
Feb-20-09 04:17 PM |
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It's not Southern-bashing. |
Occam Bandage |
Feb-20-09 03:43 PM |
#66 |
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To quote George Carlin |
Zomby Woof |
Feb-21-09 01:08 AM |
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The first slaves sold in the United State |
Thothmes |
Feb-21-09 05:33 AM |
#120 |
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I think there is a difference between |
Occam Bandage |
Feb-21-09 09:41 AM |
#124 |
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We southerners are scum ya know |
marksmithfield |
Feb-20-09 05:13 PM |
#74 |
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oh brother |
fascisthunter |
Feb-20-09 06:04 PM |
#80 |
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Oh grow the hell up, will you? |
Hugabear |
Feb-20-09 11:00 PM |
#101 |
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Oh please ... The "it was actually about states' rights, not slavery" argument |
Arugula Latte |
Feb-20-09 08:24 PM |
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Southerners never talk about the Civil War?! Are you shitting me, Pyle? |
RandomKoolzip |
Feb-21-09 10:48 AM |
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Thank you very much. These Confederate apologists can't seem to understand that. |
Hugabear |
Feb-20-09 10:57 PM |
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sure they were |
fishwax |
Feb-20-09 03:20 PM |
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I'll agree with you that many had no idea it was only about slavery. |
DevonRex |
Feb-20-09 03:28 PM |
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Baloney. First, unless you're Miss Clio, you don't know what was in their minds. |
EFerrari |
Feb-20-09 03:30 PM |
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Or unless I can read their diaries. |
Kalyke |
Feb-20-09 03:31 PM |
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You're defending against an attack I didn't make. What's up with that? |
EFerrari |
Feb-20-09 03:33 PM |
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Kind of hard to write |
marksmithfield |
Feb-20-09 05:16 PM |
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Well, actually, the Declarations of Secession straight up give "slavery" as their reason. |
SemiCharmedQuark |
Feb-20-09 03:38 PM |
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Thank you. I didn't know any of that. |
EFerrari |
Feb-20-09 03:41 PM |
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And there's the state in which I was born - Mississippi. Short and |
DevonRex |
Feb-20-09 03:44 PM |
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But what were they going to get out of it? |
treestar |
Feb-20-09 03:38 PM |
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In the south, people feared violence from freed slaves. In several southern states, the populations |
SemiCharmedQuark |
Feb-20-09 03:42 PM |
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Southerners have been taught that it was over states' rights. But that is a lie. |
DevonRex |
Feb-20-09 03:06 PM |
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I grew up in the South, too. |
Kalyke |
Feb-20-09 03:16 PM |
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Just because they believed the lie doesn't mean it wasn't about slavery. |
DevonRex |
Feb-20-09 03:21 PM |
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I just called it a horrid thing, but I guess you missed that. |
Kalyke |
Feb-20-09 03:29 PM |
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Um, the people who believed the lie weren't the liars. So, unless your ancestors |
DevonRex |
Feb-20-09 03:33 PM |
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Might I suggest you read each of the particular state's articles of secession |
LanternWaste |
Feb-20-09 03:36 PM |
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So you're saying it wasn't about slavery |
Radical Activist |
Feb-20-09 03:08 PM |
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Polling?! LMAO!!!!! |
Kalyke |
Feb-20-09 03:23 PM |
#43 |
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No, it was not about personally owning slaves. Obviously not. |
Occam Bandage |
Feb-20-09 03:35 PM |
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You get it. |
Radical Activist |
Feb-20-09 11:12 PM |
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However, wars are never predicated or fought... |
LanternWaste |
Feb-20-09 03:40 PM |
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the fact that many soldiers didn't own slaves doesn't really prove anything |
fishwax |
Feb-20-09 03:46 PM |
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Slavery was about a way of life, many argued then. |
Radical Activist |
Feb-20-09 10:35 PM |
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Oh, and you sound like 1950's white segregationists |
Radical Activist |
Feb-20-09 11:00 PM |
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Those "dirt farmers" are not the ones who voted to secede. |
Hugabear |
Feb-20-09 11:04 PM |
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funny you should use Robert E. Lee as an example, since he owned slaves and all |
fishwax |
Feb-21-09 12:28 AM |
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I believe your both wrong..The civil war was not about slavery |
GA_ArmyVet |
Feb-20-09 06:16 PM |
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So the civil war came because the South was much more prosperous than the North, |
Occam Bandage |
Feb-20-09 08:16 PM |
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Cotton was king at the time and was the source of |
GA_ArmyVet |
Feb-20-09 08:43 PM |
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The North held between 75% and 90% of the nation's wealth, depending on the metric. |
Occam Bandage |
Feb-21-09 02:22 PM |
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That was taught at my post-integration, all-white private school in MS. |
DevonRex |
Feb-21-09 08:54 AM |
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Owning slaves was about |
Radical Activist |
Feb-20-09 10:47 PM |
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Slavery as an institution went far beyond the slaveowners themselves. |
Occam Bandage |
Feb-20-09 03:14 PM |
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the analogy to the WOT is not a good one |
fishwax |
Feb-20-09 03:31 PM |
#49 |
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Uh ... no. |
Kalyke |
Feb-20-09 03:33 PM |
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I never said the concept of states rights was invented after the war |
fishwax |
Feb-20-09 03:41 PM |
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Give me a break. Slavery was the ONLY issue. |
Hugabear |
Feb-20-09 10:54 PM |
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The Morrill Tariff was of chief importance |
Zomby Woof |
Feb-21-09 12:55 AM |
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When it comes to mascots... I say... |
Fearless |
Feb-20-09 02:54 PM |
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I don't think either is a gargoyle |
elfin |
Feb-20-09 03:00 PM |
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A traitor to America |
Radical Activist |
Feb-20-09 03:09 PM |
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Wrong |
marksmithfield |
Feb-20-09 06:01 PM |
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Yeah, yeah, and the Nazis were fighting for their pure Aryan heritage. |
HiFructosePronSyrup |
Feb-20-09 06:30 PM |
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"He was defending his traditions and values." |
Occam Bandage |
Feb-20-09 08:20 PM |
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At that point in time it was an accepted |
marksmithfield |
Feb-20-09 10:23 PM |
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And in 1943 Germany, rounding up Jews and sending them to camps was an accepted norm. |
Occam Bandage |
Feb-21-09 09:48 AM |
#125 |
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that's fucking insane. |
Radical Activist |
Feb-20-09 10:56 PM |
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Did somebody here on DU actually compare AFRICAN AMERICANS to CATTLE? |
Hugabear |
Feb-20-09 11:06 PM |
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Oh come on |
marksmithfield |
Feb-21-09 07:04 AM |
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The federal constitution legitmized slavery |
Zomby Woof |
Feb-21-09 12:39 AM |
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Could you point out the clause |
Radical Activist |
Feb-21-09 01:34 AM |
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And the South was terrified that the incoming, apparently Radical Republican President |
Occam Bandage |
Feb-21-09 09:49 AM |
#126 |
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A confederate general (Wade Hampton), not an enlisted man, was my school mascot... |
mitchum |
Feb-20-09 03:31 PM |
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Yes, no one can expect AA people not to be offended by the |
treestar |
Feb-20-09 03:36 PM |
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American education is woefully deficient in Math & Science. Your new mascot should be a rhombus. |
Warren DeMontague |
Feb-20-09 03:41 PM |
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There's a school near me whose mascot is a "senator" |
SemiCharmedQuark |
Feb-20-09 03:46 PM |
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See, but if they made Werner Heisenberg your hockey team mascot, the other team's goalie would have |
Warren DeMontague |
Feb-20-09 03:56 PM |
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Technically, that is true of a puck. |
daleo |
Feb-20-09 06:02 PM |
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Is this? |
baldguy |
Feb-20-09 05:32 PM |
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Fightin' Whities pic..... |
voc |
Feb-21-09 12:41 AM |
#111 |
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Keep the logo, rename it treasonous fuckwads |
JVS |
Feb-20-09 06:21 PM |
#82 |
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yes! |
Radical Activist |
Feb-20-09 11:14 PM |
#105 |
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have a drink of Chink: |
Gabi Hayes |
Feb-20-09 06:27 PM |
#84 |
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"Liberal and their pathetic ilk can go to Hell!! CHINKS FOREVER'' |
Bluebear |
Feb-21-09 03:24 PM |
#131 |
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No more offensive than this: |
cherokeeprogressive |
Feb-20-09 10:31 PM |
#92 |
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My high school mascot was a generic "Indian" in a large head dress in profile. |
EFerrari |
Feb-21-09 12:42 AM |
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Heh. I remember South High School |
Hawkeye-X |
Feb-20-09 10:55 PM |
#96 |
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Yes |
blogslut |
Feb-21-09 12:15 AM |
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No, because it's an American veteran |
Zomby Woof |
Feb-21-09 12:36 AM |
#108 |
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Well Stated. |
Thothmes |
Feb-21-09 05:43 AM |
#121 |
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You didn't just say "mulatto" did you? What graduating class were you, 1952? |
Bluebear |
Feb-21-09 01:36 AM |
#117 |
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Offensive or not, it's a terrible mascot. |
surrealAmerican |
Feb-21-09 10:15 AM |
#127 |
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