minavasht
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Sun Feb-22-09 09:08 AM
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please address the facts, not the messenger?
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| -Florida budgets 3.8 million more for gun permits, cuts more school funding, waits for stimulus aid. |
madfloridian |
Feb-19-09 02:43 PM |
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Isn't that just a little slice of EXACTLY what's gone wrong with America... |
Junkdrawer |
Feb-19-09 02:45 PM |
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The less they educate people, the more they vote republican |
n2doc |
Feb-19-09 02:48 PM |
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Swaying the uneducated mind is easy for them. |
madfloridian |
Feb-19-09 05:14 PM |
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Florida schools have had about a 50% drop out rate for decades ...can it get any worse? |
L0oniX |
Feb-20-09 07:57 PM |
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The NCIS system is "free" for the states. |
Statistical |
Feb-19-09 02:55 PM |
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Nicely Explained |
Belial |
Feb-19-09 02:57 PM |
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now wait one damned minute here |
onethatcares |
Feb-19-09 03:22 PM |
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Thank you for explaining that. nt |
Lost in CT |
Feb-19-09 05:17 PM |
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I guess I am confused. Why they did need to budget 3.8 million? |
madfloridian |
Feb-19-09 08:58 PM |
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No, they have to hire the new people because they didn't hire enough to keep up |
benEzra |
Feb-20-09 07:15 PM |
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I believe they already spent the money and emptied the fund... |
madfloridian |
Feb-20-09 07:48 PM |
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So they took out a loan from the license fees, |
benEzra |
Feb-22-09 01:13 PM |
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The money comes from those who pay for the CWP and the education. |
L0oniX |
Feb-20-09 08:02 PM |
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Floridians and guns are not a good mix. |
Mika |
Feb-20-09 07:45 PM |
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Criminals with guns = worse. Cut back in policing = worse. |
L0oniX |
Feb-20-09 08:03 PM |
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That was my thought exactly |
slackmaster |
Feb-21-09 09:11 AM |
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I was wondering about that. It should had been obvious that fees should pay for a service like that. |
LiberalFighter |
Feb-22-09 09:45 AM |
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double post (n/t) |
Statistical |
Feb-19-09 02:55 PM |
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More for guns, less for education. |
madfloridian |
Feb-19-09 04:20 PM |
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Ya know usually you have good threads. I don't what happened but you really jumped the shark... |
L0oniX |
Feb-20-09 08:18 PM |
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I just answered you below. Your priorities are showing.. |
madfloridian |
Feb-20-09 09:32 PM |
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Yea my priorites are that I pay for my CWP out of my wallet like all the other 90000 do. |
L0oniX |
Feb-20-09 09:34 PM |
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took me 3 weeks to find the 9mm carbine I'd wanted. |
ileus |
Feb-19-09 05:33 PM |
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Dude ...should have tried Gunbroker.com. |
L0oniX |
Feb-20-09 08:14 PM |
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They're setting themselves up for failure |
sakabatou |
Feb-19-09 06:24 PM |
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Well, Jeb said when he was inaugurated.. |
madfloridian |
Feb-20-09 10:49 AM |
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But dont the concealed carry permits actually generate money? |
Jack_DeLeon |
Feb-19-09 06:59 PM |
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Then why did they need to budget 3.8 million for it? |
madfloridian |
Feb-19-09 08:50 PM |
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It should balance out in the wash |
RamboLiberal |
Feb-20-09 03:55 PM |
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Charlie's pro gun...I am pro education. Education would pay for itself also. |
madfloridian |
Feb-20-09 07:02 PM |
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Gee ...I wonder what they are doing with the $85 I sent in for a CWP? |
L0oniX |
Feb-20-09 08:11 PM |
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Yes ...I am paying for the CWP and I pay for the CWP course and I pay for the finger prints. |
L0oniX |
Feb-20-09 08:06 PM |
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Indeed. 90,000 x $85 per permit = $7,650,000. Whos taking money from who? |
L0oniX |
Feb-21-09 09:11 AM |
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Here's an interesting take on this from a Florida blogger Mom |
madfloridian |
Feb-19-09 10:56 PM |
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Wise words, unfortunately insanity is the in flavour |
gula |
Feb-20-09 03:50 PM |
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They already took the millions of dollars in fees from the license applicants... |
benEzra |
Feb-20-09 07:19 PM |
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90,000 x $85 = money to pay for the employees who process the CWP's. |
L0oniX |
Feb-20-09 08:07 PM |
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Some who never had or wanted guns are buying them because they fear restrictions |
madfloridian |
Feb-20-09 11:30 AM |
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They are trying to remain in compliance with their own statute. |
Lex1775 |
Feb-20-09 02:15 PM |
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I guess I am thinking of the many hundreds of teachers being laid off. |
madfloridian |
Feb-20-09 03:05 PM |
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My cousin's husband is one of those that will be terminated... |
JCMach1 |
Feb-20-09 03:42 PM |
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I am so sorry. |
madfloridian |
Feb-20-09 04:23 PM |
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Yeah, this is the husband of the fundy (i.e. crazy) cousin that was having all of the kids |
JCMach1 |
Feb-21-09 06:55 AM |
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Terminated or laid off. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Feb-21-09 04:51 PM |
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What would you have them do? |
Lex1775 |
Feb-20-09 06:30 PM |
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I am sorry, but I refuse to justify this. |
madfloridian |
Feb-20-09 06:40 PM |
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Just like they do in any other case |
MattBaggins |
Feb-20-09 07:54 PM |
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By their own statutes they are required to fund their schools |
MattBaggins |
Feb-20-09 07:51 PM |
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Use the childrennnnnn for target pratice.. problem solved |
SoCalDem |
Feb-20-09 03:19 PM |
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Don't count on that Stimulus money for schools in Florida. States will only get that |
1monster |
Feb-20-09 03:26 PM |
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You are right. I have been writing a lot about that. Very worried. |
madfloridian |
Feb-20-09 04:24 PM |
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As if there isn't ENOUGH gun-related crimes in Florida. |
Baikonour |
Feb-20-09 06:41 PM |
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Not by CHL holders, though. |
benEzra |
Feb-20-09 07:21 PM |
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Yeh, well, teachers are not known for violence much either. |
madfloridian |
Feb-20-09 07:50 PM |
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Yup. So if someone were fearmongering about violence by teachers, |
benEzra |
Feb-22-09 01:10 PM |
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That 3.8 million could keep many teachers working this year. |
madfloridian |
Feb-22-09 10:40 PM |
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Yep. So FL should have raised taxes by 3.8 million |
benEzra |
Feb-23-09 07:05 AM |
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Idiot is right |
michreject |
Feb-20-09 07:35 PM |
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LOL ...so true. Blame the people who legally obtain a gun ...bizzaro world. |
L0oniX |
Feb-20-09 08:09 PM |
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No one was claiming they were. |
Baikonour |
Feb-20-09 08:45 PM |
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4 month wait for first unemployment check... |
FloriTexan |
Feb-20-09 07:21 PM |
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That's terrible. |
madfloridian |
Feb-20-09 07:51 PM |
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She was from Florida, |
FloriTexan |
Feb-23-09 07:51 PM |
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They are going to cut back on police services because the state and our county are out of money. |
L0oniX |
Feb-20-09 07:56 PM |
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You know what? Adding 3.8 million for guns, taking hundreds of millions |
madfloridian |
Feb-20-09 09:11 PM |
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Your comments are very telling about you as well. CWP's are paid for by the applicant... |
L0oniX |
Feb-20-09 09:32 PM |
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Maybe |
minavasht |
Feb-20-09 10:54 PM |
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Oh, good Lord above. |
madfloridian |
Feb-20-09 11:27 PM |
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The reason IMO is that parents do not teach their children anything and ... |
L0oniX |
Feb-21-09 12:12 PM |
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Take That Attitude Over To FreiRepublik Where It Will Be Appreciated. (n/t) |
Paladin |
Feb-21-09 12:58 PM |
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Can you |
minavasht |
Feb-22-09 09:08 AM |
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Not in a case like this. It is hard to separate the two. |
madfloridian |
Feb-22-09 01:29 PM |
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Let me see |
minavasht |
Feb-22-09 07:55 PM |
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But you can not educate children without good teachers. |
madfloridian |
Feb-22-09 08:01 PM |
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I don't know - |
minavasht |
Feb-22-09 08:23 PM |
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You don't have any idea what you are talking about. Teacher Salary increases with tenure. |
Quantess |
Feb-22-09 10:35 PM |
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Like I said - I don't know |
minavasht |
Feb-23-09 08:02 PM |
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As a former Special Educator, I have some insight about "where all the money goes". |
Quantess |
Feb-22-09 08:39 PM |
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Therefore the corollary is also true...? |
LanternWaste |
Feb-23-09 02:49 PM |
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As evidenced by some of the responses to this post, that's sadly fine with some people.... |
marmar |
Feb-21-09 07:00 AM |
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90,000 x $85 = $7,650,000. Whos taking money from who? |
L0oniX |
Feb-21-09 09:07 AM |
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I really was surprised at some of the reactions. |
madfloridian |
Feb-21-09 04:44 PM |
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Why? The license fees will generate far more money... |
spin |
Feb-21-09 07:17 PM |
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You would suggest what for me? You can have all the damn guns who want. |
madfloridian |
Feb-21-09 07:28 PM |
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Sorry I misinterpreted your viewpoint... |
spin |
Feb-21-09 08:27 PM |
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DAMN I am NOT trying to take your GUNS away. Stop being so defensive. |
madfloridian |
Feb-21-09 07:31 PM |
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There are a lot of people here and in our not-so-fair state who put guns |
Lorien |
Feb-22-09 09:57 AM |
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So, if you paid $150 for a car license plate and the state spent the money on beach erosion |
benEzra |
Feb-23-09 07:12 AM |
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Christianity doesn't have a monopoly on self-inflicted martyrdom |
LanternWaste |
Feb-23-09 02:55 PM |
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Thanks for keeping us posted. I think Florida as Retirement Destination for |
KoKo |
Feb-22-09 08:10 PM |
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You have every right to be angry about the schools, but it's not the gun owners' doing |
friendly_iconoclast |
Feb-22-09 09:04 PM |
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Wow, lots of folks coming to this thread to talk about bad education... |
madfloridian |
Feb-22-09 09:11 PM |
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The schools do need money, but the permit applicants aren't taking it from them |
friendly_iconoclast |
Feb-23-09 02:49 PM |
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By law Florida must process the applications within 90 days... |
spin |
Feb-23-09 02:20 PM |
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They can have my math book when they pry it from my cold dead hands. |
Initech |
Feb-23-09 02:51 PM |
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