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Baikonour Donating Member (979 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-09 01:30 AM
Response to Reply #22
23. How about this.
Over 5,000 Muslim women died last year from these so-called "honor killings."

Now go find me the statistic of females being beaten on U.S. military bases per year.

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  -Are Honor Killings Simply Domestic Violence? Dr. Phyllis Chesler Captain_Nemo  Feb-17-09 11:45 PM   #0 
  - We shouldn't even have the term 'domestic violence.'  leftstreet   Feb-17-09 11:47 PM   #1 
  - Maybe it is outdated. Feminists created it in 70s to give marital violence against women a name.  Captain_Nemo   Feb-17-09 11:50 PM   #3 
  - Domestic violence is real  me b zola   Feb-18-09 12:26 AM   #6 
     - I meant the term. There seem to be a lot of discussion lately on this. Gender equality will be  Captain_Nemo   Feb-18-09 12:42 AM   #10 
     - But the term has a valid and useful place  me b zola   Feb-18-09 12:48 AM   #12 
        - Hit a family member, hit a neighbor - it's all assault, yes?  leftstreet   Feb-18-09 12:53 AM   #14 
        - Because DV doesn't begin with physical violence  me b zola   Feb-18-09 05:31 PM   #75 
        - Violence within a family is different than violence without  crikkett   Feb-18-09 07:45 AM   #40 
           - Why is it different?  LiberalEsto   Feb-18-09 12:28 PM   #54 
              - Er, I don't think the term, nor the poster, implies that at all. nt  spoony   Feb-18-09 12:41 PM   #62 
     - Yes, it is ls largely "bound in the inequalities of the genders", but not completely.  Quantess   Feb-18-09 01:04 PM   #65 
        - I agree with you on that  me b zola   Feb-18-09 05:14 PM   #74 
  - What about the term "hate crime"?  cherokeeprogressive   Feb-18-09 12:26 PM   #52 
  - Honor killings have nothing to do with honor.  aquart   Feb-17-09 11:50 PM   #2 
  - I wish I had a heart left to donate to you. Excellent comment. n/t  pampango   Feb-18-09 05:59 AM   #39 
  - I'll give this a quck K & R as I let the article  Cerridwen   Feb-18-09 12:04 AM   #4 
  - Then first  canetoad   Feb-18-09 12:22 AM   #5 
     - "Honor" cultures define "honor" in terms of a family's reputation  Lydia Leftcoast   Feb-18-09 12:30 AM   #8 
     - "Y'all" and "honour" in one line.  Cerridwen   Feb-18-09 12:35 AM   #9 
     - One reply to both Cerridwen & Lydia  canetoad   Feb-18-09 12:44 AM   #11 
        - I believe the article mentions education.  Cerridwen   Feb-18-09 01:08 AM   #16 
        - I know, I know  canetoad   Feb-18-09 01:17 AM   #19 
        - Don't worry about the "y'all"  Art_from_Ark   Feb-18-09 01:39 AM   #27 
        - I thought he said, "you all." nt  raccoon   Feb-18-09 07:54 AM   #43 
           - I guess it depends on the listener  Art_from_Ark   Feb-18-09 11:59 PM   #77 
        - I don't know about that--- to my mind, the common denominator  BlancheSplanchnik   Feb-18-09 08:21 AM   #48 
     - Ignore them  rolltideroll   Feb-18-09 07:54 AM   #44 
  - I don't know about the larger cultural issues...but...  me b zola   Feb-18-09 12:30 AM   #7 
  - The sanctioned violence against woman in Islam is far beyond "domestic violence."  Baikonour   Feb-18-09 12:49 AM   #13 
  - It's also sanctioned by Christianity  Chulanowa   Feb-18-09 01:05 AM   #15 
     - No, it's origin doesn't exactly matter.  Baikonour   Feb-18-09 01:12 AM   #17 
     - No, I can't tell you that. I can tell you it's pretty much at the same level  Chulanowa   Feb-18-09 12:34 PM   #59 
     - But in Islam, it's much, much more violent  silverojo   Feb-18-09 03:30 AM   #36 
     - Is it?  Chulanowa   Feb-18-09 12:27 PM   #53 
        - It would be difficult to argue that countries of other religious backgrounds  Quantess   Feb-18-09 02:55 PM   #70 
     - Where in the New Testament is that?  Fire_Medic_Dave   Feb-18-09 03:52 AM   #38 
        - Well, there's Matthew 5:17, of course  Chulanowa   Feb-18-09 12:23 PM   #51 
        - Nice to meet you.  spoony   Feb-18-09 12:38 PM   #60 
        - I'm misapplying it?  Chulanowa   Feb-18-09 12:48 PM   #63 
           - Your argument was that Christianity sanctioned domestic violence.  Fire_Medic_Dave   Feb-18-09 03:13 PM   #73 
        - I don't even think Paul's crap should be in the Bible  HarukaTheTrophyWife   Feb-18-09 12:53 PM   #64 
        - I would agree...  Chulanowa   Feb-18-09 01:10 PM   #66 
        - Matthew 5:17 encourages domestic violence?  Fire_Medic_Dave   Feb-18-09 03:10 PM   #72 
        - I'm agnostic, raised secular, and I don't even know what the New Testament says, if you must know.  Quantess   Feb-18-09 10:46 PM   #76 
  - Just recently a teenage girl was found dead, and another beaten unconscious...  Hanse   Feb-18-09 01:17 AM   #18 
  - You sure you're reading?  Baikonour   Feb-18-09 01:20 AM   #20 
  - hanse  canetoad   Feb-18-09 01:25 AM   #21 
  - What would you consider to be an associated cruelty?  Hanse   Feb-18-09 01:27 AM   #22 
     - How about this.  Baikonour   Feb-18-09 01:30 AM   #23 
     - There are about 6 million incidents of women getting beaten every year...  Hanse   Feb-18-09 01:36 AM   #25 
        - The point is..  Baikonour   Feb-18-09 01:43 AM   #28 
           - Oh please.  Hanse   Feb-18-09 01:46 AM   #29 
           - Either your reading comprehension is outstandingly low, or you're playing me.  Baikonour   Feb-18-09 01:52 AM   #33 
           - Explain the Taliban  canetoad   Feb-18-09 02:08 AM   #35 
              - Easy enough  Chulanowa   Feb-18-09 12:41 PM   #61 
           - are you sure about that?  crikkett   Feb-18-09 07:48 AM   #41 
           - the root cause is misogyny, and the inability to respect women as they(men) respect themselves  BlancheSplanchnik   Feb-18-09 08:31 AM   #49 
     - Anything that is not directly related  canetoad   Feb-18-09 01:31 AM   #24 
        - The OP is about honor killings and domestic violence.  Hanse   Feb-18-09 01:37 AM   #26 
           - You may have a valid point  canetoad   Feb-18-09 01:48 AM   #30 
           - Please see my post #31.  Cerridwen   Feb-18-09 01:51 AM   #32 
           - No it is NOT reasonable  canetoad   Feb-18-09 01:58 AM   #34 
  - What you are reading is a thread about an article about research  Cerridwen   Feb-18-09 01:50 AM   #31 
  - I believe they are murder.  Fire_Medic_Dave   Feb-18-09 03:49 AM   #37 
  - Horrible  rolltideroll   Feb-18-09 07:51 AM   #42 
  - It's MURDER. nt  LaydeeBug   Feb-18-09 07:56 AM   #45 
  - Too right,  rolltideroll   Feb-18-09 07:57 AM   #46 
  - Other non-muslim cultures have honor killings as well.  kwassa   Feb-18-09 07:58 AM   #47 
  - Until the 80's it was legal to kill your wife in some South American countries  Marrah_G   Feb-18-09 12:32 PM   #56 
  - No, it's simply murder. nt  Deep13   Feb-18-09 08:45 AM   #50 
  - Honor Killings are not simply domestic violence.  Marrah_G   Feb-18-09 12:30 PM   #55 
  - In the U.S. they used to call these "crimes of passion."  HiFructosePronSyrup   Feb-18-09 12:33 PM   #57 
  - I thought Alfalfa died over a $50 debt  JVS   Feb-18-09 01:16 PM   #67 
  - The entire world's population needs to learn  LiberalEsto   Feb-18-09 12:34 PM   #58 
  - There's a cultural divide in my opinion  marshall   Feb-18-09 01:41 PM   #68 
  - The example in the OP is more than likely one of domestic violence, not honor killing.  dustbunnie   Feb-18-09 01:57 PM   #69 
  - Killing is killing and a spouse killing a spouse is domestic violence. full stop. n/t  ourbluenation   Feb-18-09 02:56 PM   #71 
 

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