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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-09 02:15 PM
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77. I was not disabled.
As I recall, I got a few hundred a month for college, I spent 2 weeks in a VA hospital at no cost (and lousy conditions), and I got a GI loan for my first house.

They did inform me that the hearing in my right ear was damaged but offered me no disability of any kind.

I did however leave with a bad attitude about anything military and an inclination to pacifism.
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  -Outlook for Defense spending is grim The Straight Story  Feb-17-09 03:50 PM   #0 
  - Reduce Defense spending by 10% n/t  Earth_First   Feb-17-09 03:52 PM   #1 
  - More. 90% and they're still in business.  Hawkeye-X   Feb-17-09 04:27 PM   #10 
     - I'd suggest you do a little research on what your talking about.  fuggbush21   Feb-18-09 10:43 AM   #47 
        - "Military spending is not a waste."  Arugula Latte   Feb-18-09 12:12 PM   #53 
        - reference my post further down.  fuggbush21   Feb-18-09 12:30 PM   #56 
           - Slashing the military and redirecting the money could create millions of jobs elsewhere.  Arugula Latte   Feb-18-09 12:44 PM   #63 
           - Right...  fuggbush21   Feb-18-09 01:02 PM   #67 
              - The military is the most wasteful, inefficient institution in the nation.  Arugula Latte   Feb-18-09 02:16 PM   #78 
           - Answer: Ploughshares.  Ignis   Feb-18-09 01:42 PM   #71 
        - With 7 posts, I suggest you try for a bit of common courtesy.  bobbolink   Feb-18-09 01:56 PM   #74 
  - Hold steady while people go hungry? WTF? Why isn't this being reduced? nt  Sarah Ibarruri   Feb-17-09 03:53 PM   #2 
  - One problem is that it's been an Offense Budget in the last 8 years....  LakeSamish706   Feb-17-09 03:53 PM   #3 
  - The War Department Budget should be cut by 50%  leftstreet   Feb-17-09 03:54 PM   #4 
  - Who would employ all those people thrown out onto the street? NT  MADem   Feb-17-09 04:01 PM   #6 
     - By this reasoning, the US should go to war somewhere! JOBS!!!1111  leftstreet   Feb-17-09 04:08 PM   #7 
     - Alot of "military" jobs are now done by civilians. n/t  Earth_First   Feb-17-09 04:09 PM   #8 
     - Yes, they are. And they are part of DOD "personnel costs" too.  MADem   Feb-17-09 04:36 PM   #15 
     - Please. Answer the question. Being a smartass isn't helpful or mature.  MADem   Feb-17-09 04:34 PM   #12 
     - Offer current unneeded employees buyout packages to take early retirement  NNN0LHI   Feb-17-09 05:14 PM   #19 
     - We did that in the nineties. The Cheney Plan. RIF.  MADem   Feb-17-09 09:22 PM   #26 
     - It's well documented that military spending has a poor return  Tesha   Feb-17-09 05:26 PM   #20 
     - It depends on what in the military is cut.  GA_ArmyVet   Feb-17-09 06:31 PM   #23 
     - Having the best army and arms has not led to successful wars.  olegramps   Feb-18-09 09:42 AM   #41 
        - True enough  GA_ArmyVet   Feb-18-09 05:37 PM   #83 
     - I didn't ask about the "poor return" of military spending. My question was very specific.  MADem   Feb-17-09 09:25 PM   #27 
        - The government can found a CONSTRUCTION worker just as easily as it can fund a DESTRUCTION worker.  Tesha   Feb-18-09 09:03 AM   #38 
           - Well, what I haven't "found" is an answer to my simple question.  MADem   Feb-18-09 12:19 PM   #55 
              - You haven't "found" an answer because you don't like the answer I'm giving you.  Tesha   Feb-18-09 12:38 PM   #59 
                 - How will you "re-deploy" them, though? You're not answering the question.  MADem   Feb-18-09 02:12 PM   #76 
                    - Why not enroll all my re-deployed workers in the relevant unions?  Tesha   Feb-18-09 05:58 PM   #84 
                       - You'd have to talk to the union bosses about that. They probably wouldn't  MADem   Feb-18-09 07:03 PM   #86 
                          - So your job is safe.  Tesha   Feb-18-09 07:27 PM   #87 
                             - My job? I'm old. I'm retired. My "job" is worrying about all the unemployed people in my  MADem   Feb-18-09 08:19 PM   #89 
     - People have tried to explain this to you, yet you persist  leftstreet   Feb-17-09 06:15 PM   #21 
     - You didn't answer the question. Don't tell me what "people" have or haven't done.  MADem   Feb-17-09 09:16 PM   #24 
        - Why not employ them in public works projects? Like restarting the WPA, the PWA, or the CCC again.  Selatius   Feb-18-09 12:15 PM   #54 
           - Doing what? You're going to put people who used their brains in their jobs  MADem   Feb-18-09 12:32 PM   #57 
           - Rebuilding our infrastructure, for instance? We got a lot of ruined infrastructure post-Bush.  Selatius   Feb-18-09 12:42 PM   #61 
              - I agree with Eisenhower.  MADem   Feb-18-09 01:12 PM   #69 
           - Are those the kind of jobs that will last 30 -40 years.  Thothmes   Feb-18-09 07:28 PM   #88 
     - The GI Bill is available to them for retraining.  Tierra_y_Libertad   Feb-18-09 09:28 AM   #40 
        - You didn't have children, I take it.  MADem   Feb-18-09 12:36 PM   #58 
           - How does that make them any different from other laid off workers?  Tierra_y_Libertad   Feb-18-09 12:42 PM   #60 
              - No they won't. When you're out, you're out--unless you qualify for retirement.  MADem   Feb-18-09 12:51 PM   #65 
                 - I sure as hell didn't retire from the military and I collected on all those.  Tierra_y_Libertad   Feb-18-09 12:55 PM   #66 
                    - If you were disabled, that's a different issue. Not every transitioning solider is disabled.  MADem   Feb-18-09 01:56 PM   #73 
                       - I was not disabled.  Tierra_y_Libertad   Feb-18-09 02:15 PM   #77 
                          - If you were in a VA hospital after you got out, it's because they needed to fix something before you  MADem   Feb-18-09 02:22 PM   #80 
                             - They never offered to fix it and I wouldn't have hung around anyway.  Tierra_y_Libertad   Feb-18-09 02:57 PM   #82 
                                - You are classified as a Vietnam Era vet if you left service in 65.  MADem   Feb-18-09 06:44 PM   #85 
     - The Department of Defense  fuggbush21   Feb-18-09 11:07 AM   #50 
     - historically, wars do grow countries out of hard economic times.  dysfunctional press   Feb-18-09 01:17 PM   #70 
     - The places that the money will be directed to that are not dead-end no-return wastes  Greyhound   Feb-17-09 04:19 PM   #9 
     - To answer that I would say:  The Straight Story   Feb-17-09 09:43 PM   #29 
        - But would those people recently out of uniform be the ones hired, or would  MADem   Feb-17-09 11:04 PM   #34 
  - Just so everyone "gets" this--the easiest place to cut defense spending is PERSONNEL COSTS  MADem   Feb-17-09 04:00 PM   #5 
  - You're right, but in the end DoD is military and will carry out it's orders.  Greyhound   Feb-17-09 04:29 PM   #11 
     - I'm thinking aircraft, too, for a big chunk.  MADem   Feb-17-09 04:46 PM   #16 
        - The administration can, and IMO should, direct the cuts to avoid just what you are talking about.  Greyhound   Feb-17-09 04:58 PM   #17 
           - Unfortunately, I think the old paradigm will prevail.  MADem   Feb-17-09 09:33 PM   #28 
              - I'm not sure if it's a bright side, but I think many, many people are going to join us in our  Greyhound   Feb-17-09 10:06 PM   #32 
                 - I can relate. Every time I turn around, another relative is out of work.  MADem   Feb-17-09 10:54 PM   #33 
  - I worked for the Department of Defense.  GentryDixon   Feb-17-09 04:35 PM   #13 
  - Were you part of that audit about ten years back?  MADem   Feb-17-09 09:43 PM   #30 
     - I don't remember an audit looking for trillions.  GentryDixon   Feb-18-09 07:48 AM   #35 
        - No. It was a DOD-wide audit, that happened in 2000. See attached.  MADem   Feb-18-09 10:23 AM   #45 
           - I remember this.  GentryDixon   Feb-18-09 10:53 AM   #49 
              - I was high enough up in the food chain to hear the shit hitting the fan!  MADem   Feb-18-09 12:08 PM   #51 
  - How can this be? I distinctly remember candidate Obama saying that he wanted to increase  bertman   Feb-17-09 04:36 PM   #14 
  - Oh for f*cks sake. It isn't defense's offense.  L0oniX   Feb-17-09 05:01 PM   #18 
  - If we really want to DEFEND Americans then we need to spend most  Winterblues   Feb-17-09 06:22 PM   #22 
  - Why should a defence reduction be considered "grim"?  Canuckistanian   Feb-17-09 09:22 PM   #25 
  - Well, look at the source--it's "grim" from the govexec perspective. NT  MADem   Feb-17-09 09:45 PM   #31 
  - One point I would like to make regarding force reduction  jmowreader   Feb-18-09 08:21 AM   #36 
  - Just curious, do you know what the Constitution says about maintaining a standing army?  Bandit   Feb-18-09 08:34 AM   #37 
  - If you cut defense spending 90 percent, the troops WILL take a huge hit  jmowreader   Feb-18-09 10:21 AM   #43 
     - Very well put. And right on target, too. nt  MADem   Feb-18-09 12:10 PM   #52 
  - I went to college on the GI bill for retraining. I believe it's still available.  Tierra_y_Libertad   Feb-18-09 09:26 AM   #39 
  - It is...  jmowreader   Feb-18-09 10:23 AM   #44 
     - It's still a better deal than other people get when laid off.  Tierra_y_Libertad   Feb-18-09 10:39 AM   #46 
        - Other people don't get shot at as a consequence of their job. And other people don't "pay in" to  MADem   Feb-18-09 12:44 PM   #62 
           - I never got shot at and I collected for doing absolutely nothing beneficial to anyone.  Tierra_y_Libertad   Feb-18-09 01:12 PM   #68 
              - You were lucky but your experience isn't the paradigm. Nor is mine. Certainly not nowadays.  MADem   Feb-18-09 01:52 PM   #72 
                 - You're right, disabled vets not combat vets.  Tierra_y_Libertad   Feb-18-09 02:06 PM   #75 
  - Good post. Now for the big question, retrain to do what?  Greyhound   Feb-18-09 02:16 PM   #79 
     - I'm going to start another thread in just a few minutes...  jmowreader   Feb-18-09 02:50 PM   #81 
        - Did you post it yet? I haven't found it. n/t  Greyhound   Feb-19-09 01:02 AM   #90 
           - I got pulled away, sorry...  jmowreader   Feb-19-09 11:29 AM   #91 
  - $650,000,000,000.00  RUMMYisFROSTED   Feb-18-09 09:48 AM   #42 
  - The military is a huge burden on the nation and the world.  TWiley   Feb-18-09 10:43 AM   #48 
  - Time to cut the military  MadHound   Feb-18-09 12:45 PM   #64 

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