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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 01:35 PM
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11. It's not aimed at partisan politicians, it's aimed at the peace movement.
And he's right: no social movement should tie itself so close to a political party that it perverts its aims in order to play party politics. I was glad that the bill passed the House, by a minimal majority; and I would like to see it likewise barely pass the Senate; but I am counting on Dubya's veto to ensure that it doesn't become law. This is a partisan view: I want Democrats to be able to say that Dubya is 'cutting off funds to the troops.' But the peace movement, of which I am a part, is right to lambast the bill for funding another year-and-a-half of war; and Kucinich and others were right to oppose it and vote against it. That is a movement point of view, and that is especially why I don't want to see the bill actually become law. Money for the war should be cut off now. Congress isn't going to do that now, so from a political point of view, I am glad to see that the politcal process is putting Dubya and the Rethuglicans into as poor a position as possible at the moment; but the pressure still has to be built to "bring them home now" until the point that the war is stopped.
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  -Howard Zinn unloads a broadside against Democrats who "capitulated" to Bush. Selatius  Mar-26-07 12:43 PM   #0 
  - Way recommended!  Phredicles   Mar-26-07 12:45 PM   #1 
  - already posted  jasonc   Mar-26-07 12:45 PM   #2 
  - Kick!  ClayZ   Mar-26-07 12:49 PM   #3 
  - Nominated again!  bonito   Mar-26-07 12:52 PM   #4 
  - If the Dems acted as an opposition party....  Tom Joad   Mar-26-07 12:58 PM   #5 
  - Agreed, and...  warren pease   Mar-26-07 08:48 PM   #32 
  - Bless Zinn............  PDJane   Mar-26-07 01:01 PM   #6 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Mar-26-07 01:02 PM   #7 
  - Don't tell them that, though.  Selatius   Mar-26-07 01:11 PM   #8 
  - And I'm heartily tired  cali   Mar-26-07 01:33 PM   #10 
  - It's interesting that, in effect, you'd proclaim a philosophical kinship with Alan Keyes.  TahitiNut   Mar-26-07 02:16 PM   #12 
     - LOL!  cali   Mar-26-07 02:53 PM   #16 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Mar-26-07 02:18 PM   #13 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Mar-26-07 02:25 PM   #15 
  - Zinn is obviously a Republican plant getting paid by Rove.  Tierra_y_Libertad   Mar-26-07 01:24 PM   #9 
  - what you said. nt  antifaschits   Mar-26-07 02:20 PM   #14 
  - You've got to be KIDDING  ProudDad   Mar-26-07 08:08 PM   #25 
  - Yes, he's being facetious.  TahitiNut   Mar-26-07 08:19 PM   #29 
     - Yea, maybe I need another break myself  ProudDad   Mar-26-07 09:31 PM   #36 
  - I thought the sarcasm thingy unnecessary.  Tierra_y_Libertad   Mar-26-07 08:15 PM   #28 
     - Ooops  ProudDad   Mar-26-07 09:32 PM   #37 
  - It's not aimed at partisan politicians, it's aimed at the peace movement.  damntexdem   Mar-26-07 01:35 PM   #11 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Mar-26-07 06:32 PM   #17 
     - Bullshit.  cali   Mar-26-07 06:40 PM   #18 
        - Deleted message  Name removed   Mar-26-07 08:10 PM   #26 
  - What a traitor!  Forkboy   Mar-26-07 06:43 PM   #19 
  - I love Howard Zinn. nt  mycritters2   Mar-26-07 06:43 PM   #20 
  - K&R, and  marekjed   Mar-26-07 06:51 PM   #21 
  - I don't understand why Busholini would veto this Compromise.  Disturbed   Mar-26-07 06:58 PM   #22 
     - I happen to think he won't veto  ProudDad   Mar-26-07 08:13 PM   #27 
        - It wouldn't matter if the Senate did. The conference committee could put them all back in. (nt)  w4rma   Mar-27-07 01:41 AM   #40 
  - #35 to recommend Howard Zinn's article  Pastiche423   Mar-26-07 07:07 PM   #23 
  - A reminder  Jcrowley   Mar-26-07 07:45 PM   #24 
  - This about says it  ProudDad   Mar-26-07 08:19 PM   #30 
  - Why does he hate America?  omega minimo   Mar-26-07 08:44 PM   #31 
  - The Progressive Magazine  Holland   Mar-26-07 09:05 PM   #33 
  - K & R for Howard Zinn  entanglement   Mar-26-07 09:10 PM   #34 
  - More Bucks for BU$HCO  KingBob   Mar-26-07 09:23 PM   #35 
  - Some here definitely have a problem understanding  mmonk   Mar-26-07 10:05 PM   #38 
  - Enough with the triangulation already  porkrind   Mar-26-07 11:31 PM   #39 
  - a very articulate summary of the correct position on Iraq . . .  OneBlueSky   Mar-27-07 02:33 AM   #41 
  - Yes, well put. And a big kick for Howard Zinn!  pberq   Mar-27-07 12:27 PM   #48 
  - K&R I agree. Citizens must continue the fight for peace now.  lazyriver   Mar-27-07 06:54 AM   #42 
  - "Democrat proposal"?  Ninja Jordan   Mar-27-07 06:56 AM   #43 
  - That's a quote from the Progressive's article  klook   Mar-27-07 10:05 AM   #44 
     - I know.  Ninja Jordan   Mar-27-07 11:55 AM   #46 
  - Amen  proud2Blib   Mar-27-07 11:52 AM   #45 
  - Ironically, it's the conservative Democrats who are most worried about preserving their careers.  porphyrian   Mar-27-07 11:59 AM   #47 
  - The purge of Congress is not yet complete.  johnlal   Mar-27-07 12:36 PM   #49 
  - No surge, but yes let's purge! n/t  truedelphi   Mar-27-07 12:47 PM   #50 
  - I think most of the 124 billion that is spoken of here is to support troops when  Maraya1969   Mar-27-07 12:48 PM   #51 

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