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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-09 02:55 AM
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55. Two issues at stake:
Edited on Fri Feb-13-09 02:59 AM by LeftyMom
1. Do they have a right to attempt to start a family? Yes. If they could do so without intervention, they could go for it. They really, really shouldn't, but they can.

2. Does a doctor have an ethical obligation to say no in that circumstance? Yes. The doctor could guide them toward a more acceptable option (maybe CF- donor sperm where the child would only be a carrier? That would also preclude the need for IVF.) that would result in a healthy outcome. While the parents have rights, the doctor also has professional obligations that would preclude knowingly taking an action that would lead to an unacceptable outcome. A doctor is not a vending machine for medical procedures, they do have to follow ethical guidelines.
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  -Ethical Question about Reproductive Choice Lyric  Feb-12-09 07:58 PM   #0 
  - why am I allowed to choose for them?  Coexist   Feb-12-09 07:59 PM   #1 
  - Under current law, you aren't.  Lyric   Feb-12-09 08:00 PM   #3 
  - Let's hope it stays a hypothetical  RB TexLa   Feb-12-09 08:46 PM   #29 
  - The closest to "not my choice to make" is the third from the bottom  D-Lee   Feb-12-09 09:13 PM   #33 
  - You can't enforce morality  Taverner   Feb-12-09 08:00 PM   #2 
  - If they knew that, why would they WANT to have children together?  B o d i   Feb-12-09 08:02 PM   #4 
  - There are many people with genetic disorders who still want to have  LisaL   Feb-12-09 08:04 PM   #6 
  - You didn't address my question at all. nt  B o d i   Feb-12-09 08:06 PM   #10 
     - I am not sure what is there to answer.  LisaL   Feb-12-09 08:07 PM   #13 
        - I was going to say the same thing.  Lyric   Feb-12-09 08:12 PM   #17 
        - The desire to drink is very strong for alcoholics.  Quantess   Feb-13-09 12:57 AM   #49 
           - And that's why they drink alcohol. What is your point, exactly?  LisaL   Feb-13-09 12:59 AM   #50 
              - Just because someone has a desire to reproduce, does not mean they should follow through.  Quantess   Feb-13-09 02:23 AM   #53 
  - Mental illness could cause the same end result as sadism  wuushew   Feb-12-09 08:11 PM   #16 
  - Don't be so quick to judge. Statistically, about half of all pregnancies are unplanned.  Quantess   Feb-12-09 10:05 PM   #44 
  - this is an hypothetical -- but i am harsh about some few things.  xchrom   Feb-12-09 08:03 PM   #5 
  - IVF shouldn't create sick kids  sandnsea   Feb-12-09 08:04 PM   #7 
  - "I am merely curious just how "pro-choice" DU truly is."  omega minimo   Feb-12-09 08:05 PM   #8 
  - Apparently, to some choice means anything goes.  LisaL   Feb-12-09 08:06 PM   #9 
  - Seems pretty straight-forward to me.  Lyric   Feb-12-09 08:07 PM   #11 
     - sounds like you need to educate yourself on the topic and quit being so damn flippant about it  omega minimo   Feb-12-09 08:10 PM   #15 
        - Oooookay.  Lyric   Feb-12-09 08:13 PM   #18 
           - reread what i wrote until you understand it. considering your self "attacked" is even more ludicrous  omega minimo   Feb-12-09 09:09 PM   #32 
              - Okay. Let's go back and re-read what you wrote.  Lyric   Feb-12-09 09:17 PM   #35 
  - Legally they can- ethically they should not.  Marrah_G   Feb-12-09 08:07 PM   #12 
  - Oh, I don't argue about the ethics of OctoMom  Lyric   Feb-12-09 08:09 PM   #14 
  - I wouldn't support legal restrictions.  BalancedGoat   Feb-12-09 08:14 PM   #19 
  - Indeed. But then again, it's always possible to go to another country  Lyric   Feb-12-09 08:20 PM   #24 
  - Bait and switch...  BlooInBloo   Feb-12-09 08:16 PM   #20 
  - Why are you focused on choice and not on medical ethics?  EFerrari   Feb-12-09 08:17 PM   #21 
  - Okay--then change my example to "mentally ill people."  Lyric   Feb-12-09 08:22 PM   #25 
     - Why not just change it to sterilizing people you don't like?  EFerrari   Feb-12-09 08:40 PM   #26 
        - Why would I do that?  Lyric   Feb-12-09 08:44 PM   #27 
           - I apologize that I haven't been following this "take her rights away" discussion  EFerrari   Feb-12-09 08:54 PM   #30 
              - I think a lot of people have confused the  Lyric   Feb-12-09 08:57 PM   #31 
                 - the former is none of your business. the fact that you think it is, is the "road to tyranny"  omega minimo   Feb-12-09 11:27 PM   #48 
  - Sometimes you have to trust that most  EmeraldCityGrl   Feb-12-09 08:18 PM   #22 
  - i am pro choice i am also pro common sense.  AlCzervik   Feb-12-09 08:19 PM   #23 
  - Exactly how I see it  pipi_k   Feb-12-09 09:40 PM   #40 
  - Legally vs ethically  rebecca_herman   Feb-12-09 08:45 PM   #28 
  - I do not want government  quaker bill   Feb-12-09 09:13 PM   #34 
  - I vote for intensive education and adoption.  Old and In the Way   Feb-12-09 09:31 PM   #36 
  - Adoption is not a feasible possibility in this case, unfortunately.  Lyric   Feb-12-09 09:34 PM   #37 
     - I do think donor eggs and/or sperm are an option though?  rebecca_herman   Feb-12-09 09:37 PM   #38 
     - If the people are likely to die young, should they be able to adopt?  LisaL   Feb-12-09 11:12 PM   #47 
  - I didn't cast a vote because there was no answer for how I feel about it  pipi_k   Feb-12-09 09:38 PM   #39 
  - With CF, if you're homozygous recessive, and so is your partner, then  Lyric   Feb-12-09 09:53 PM   #41 
  - I don't believe in eugenics. nt  anonymous171   Feb-12-09 09:57 PM   #42 
  - I'm a true liberal  zagging   Feb-12-09 10:03 PM   #43 
  - women have the right to choose  Rosa Luxemburg   Feb-12-09 10:09 PM   #45 
  - The parents with cystic fibrosis should be charged with child abuse and manslaughter  Eryemil   Feb-12-09 10:52 PM   #46 
  - If a couple  LiberalPersona   Feb-13-09 01:17 AM   #51 
  - As with most, if not all, ethical questions there is no answer possible in a poll format,  Greyhound   Feb-13-09 01:25 AM   #52 
  - allowed?  Two Americas   Feb-13-09 02:50 AM   #54 
  - Two issues at stake:  LeftyMom   Feb-13-09 02:55 AM   #55 
  - Since the child will only have CF if it gets it from both parents, why couldn't the parents do this?  4lbs   Feb-13-09 03:38 AM   #56 
 

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