| 173. You're right, and it's symptomatic of our society... |
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we want instant gratification. Long posts take too long for some people to read (or write). Americans want everything fast and in pill form. We subsist on fast food garbage that is loaded with sugar, salt and cholesterol, and low on what we need like whole grain fiber, fresh fruits and vegetables. We are an obese society. It's to the point that disorders such as type two diabetes are becoming an acceptable by-product of our lifestyle choices. There's even a magazine now called DIABETIC LIVING. Type two diabetes is almost always a side effect of a sedentary, overly-processed fast food lifestyle. Rather than control our cravings for fat, animal based foods(where ALL dietary cholesterol comes from) we simply ask our doctor for a pill to lower the cholesterol, never mind the side-effects. We want magic bullets in the form of pills for help in getting to sleep, getting it up, advil for our pain if we dare to exercise. We watch too much TV, go out and buy what it tells us to buy, (how often do we see close ups of people's mouths on TV taking in vast amounts of food?)then we finally get up off the couch to go out and buy diet pills which is the other side of the ARMS RACE that wizards of capitalism tell us we want to buy via mostly TV. What would happen if we took this opportunity we have today, with a seemingly sane and intelligent new leadership in Washington, let this be the jumping off place for a whole new way of life. Let's all eat lower on the food chain.( a plant based diet is the healthiest for us AND the animals) Let's buy locally grown products whenever possible, to support our neighbors and local community. Take a little time each day for a long walk, run or bicycle trip. Take a few minutes from each day to participate in our democracy by calling your Congressman and telling him/her what we expect of them, our employee. Shut off the TV machine (as Rachel calls it) more often. Say no to fast food. Vote with your wallet and your fork. Think about the power we all have every time we make a purchase. What are the ramifications of this purchase? Does it promote child labor abuses? Animal suffering? Does it send money out of the country when a local alternative could have been bought instead? I know I rambled on off-topic, sorry 'bout that. If you read this far down the rant, then you're one of the good guys, not one of the ones Cyrano is talking about, but a thoughtful DU participant. This has been a test of the thoughtful poster broadcast system. BTW, bush sucks, good riddance, lets take back our country!
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| -Are DU standards falling? |
Cyrano |
Feb-11-09 01:02 PM |
#0 |
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U R so00oo dumm |
Bicoastal |
Feb-11-09 01:04 PM |
#1 |
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Thank you for helping to make my case. |
Cyrano |
Feb-11-09 01:05 PM |
#2 |
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Please tell me you didn't take that seriously. |
Bicoastal |
Feb-11-09 01:07 PM |
#7 |
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I didn't... |
Lagomorph |
Feb-11-09 04:31 PM |
#86 |
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you know better.... so all you can do is smile. ha |
Divine Discontent |
Feb-12-09 01:37 PM |
#175 |
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Intellectual underground is that way -----------> |
cliffordu |
Feb-11-09 01:06 PM |
#3 |
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Um, that arrow should point to the left ... nt |
eppur_se_muova |
Feb-11-09 06:48 PM |
#112 |
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It is pointing to the left when I'm inside your computer looking at you.... |
cliffordu |
Feb-11-09 07:10 PM |
#116 |
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D'oh! :^D |
eppur_se_muova |
Feb-11-09 07:16 PM |
#118 |
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Huh? what u mean? |
Hardrada |
Feb-11-09 01:06 PM |
#4 |
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Hope this doesn't get 200 responses... |
Spike89 |
Feb-11-09 01:06 PM |
#5 |
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Really? There's a difference between quantity and quality. |
Cyrano |
Feb-12-09 01:24 PM |
#174 |
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Understood, just joking a bit |
Spike89 |
Feb-12-09 03:07 PM |
#181 |
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I think Bush makes us stupidd |
AngryAmish |
Feb-11-09 01:07 PM |
#6 |
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Fuck * Fuck vader |
Xenotime |
Feb-12-09 09:42 AM |
#158 |
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When I was a member here in '04... |
bunnies |
Feb-11-09 01:08 PM |
#8 |
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You forgot the 'rec this if you agree'... |
azmouse |
Feb-11-09 01:08 PM |
#9 |
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K/R |
emilyg |
Feb-11-09 01:08 PM |
#10 |
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Yes. |
Captain Hilts |
Feb-11-09 01:08 PM |
#11 |
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Do you have a link? |
laconicsax |
Feb-11-09 01:13 PM |
#17 |
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Here...let me see if I can find it...here you go! |
Captain Hilts |
Feb-11-09 01:14 PM |
#20 |
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Perfect, thanks! |
laconicsax |
Feb-11-09 02:50 PM |
#52 |
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More often than not, a link isn't necessary. Refer those demanding |
Cyrano |
Feb-11-09 02:55 PM |
#55 |
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Thanks. nt |
Captain Hilts |
Feb-11-09 03:00 PM |
#57 |
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I've found this is almost exclusively a tactic, not an honest inquiry. |
Greyhound |
Feb-11-09 03:45 PM |
#72 |
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the "provide a link" gambit is used by often stupid people |
datasuspect |
Feb-14-09 08:36 AM |
#187 |
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Unfortunately, people have short attention spans these days |
Hello_Kitty |
Feb-11-09 01:09 PM |
#12 |
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i`ve been here since jan 2002 and not much has changed |
madrchsod |
Feb-11-09 01:09 PM |
#13 |
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Agree. |
wtmusic |
Feb-12-09 09:59 AM |
#161 |
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For the most part it's always been like that. |
underseasurveyor |
Feb-11-09 01:10 PM |
#14 |
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I find the thoughtful posts are still there. They are just lost in the dross. |
Cleita |
Feb-11-09 01:11 PM |
#15 |
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Hey Cyrano. |
Cerridwen |
Feb-11-09 01:11 PM |
#16 |
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Yep. I couldn't agree more. |
Cyrano |
Feb-11-09 02:45 PM |
#50 |
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yes short posts are easier for the wankers |
omega minimo |
Feb-11-09 07:53 PM |
#125 |
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K & R If you think (insert name SUCKS) FUCK EM |
DS1 |
Feb-11-09 01:14 PM |
#18 |
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I haven't noticed a big difference since I joined in 2002... |
Spazito |
Feb-11-09 01:14 PM |
#19 |
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I have actually posted variants of the same thread |
Jackpine Radical |
Feb-11-09 01:23 PM |
#29 |
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I agree, timing has a lot to do with it as well as who is logged on at the time... |
Spazito |
Feb-11-09 01:53 PM |
#43 |
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Yep. They are adequate. "Adequate." Now that's an enviable standard. |
Cyrano |
Feb-11-09 02:39 PM |
#48 |
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LOL, I guess by your standards, I can then deem your response as.... |
Spazito |
Feb-11-09 02:54 PM |
#54 |
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No insult intended. I'm just spitting down on the term "adequate" from my |
Cyrano |
Feb-11-09 03:01 PM |
#58 |
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Must Stop Krugmannn!1!1111 |
kenny blankenship |
Feb-11-09 01:14 PM |
#21 |
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Lot more freepers posting here that's for sure |
durablend |
Feb-11-09 01:16 PM |
#22 |
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After solemn and fastidious pondering |
Mari333 |
Feb-11-09 01:16 PM |
#23 |
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I couldn't agree more. |
Cyrano |
Feb-11-09 03:05 PM |
#59 |
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Love your jocose, polysyllabic sesquipedalianism. |
BlancheSplanchnik |
Feb-12-09 12:50 PM |
#166 |
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Generally, if you post something most agree with, it dies... |
Junkdrawer |
Feb-11-09 01:17 PM |
#24 |
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I don't think it's a matter of "division" |
pipi_k |
Feb-12-09 09:10 AM |
#155 |
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It's all my fault, sorry... |
Sandrine for you |
Feb-11-09 01:18 PM |
#25 |
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any threads asking for rec's and the one hit wonders, OMG TWEETY SAID WHAT? |
AlCzervik |
Feb-11-09 01:19 PM |
#26 |
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General Discussion |
QueenOfCalifornia |
Feb-11-09 01:21 PM |
#27 |
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Dean's List; High Honors don't mean sheet.... |
bobthedrummer |
Feb-11-09 01:25 PM |
#32 |
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It's that way in every forum I read. Two different worlds. |
Kaleva |
Feb-11-09 01:22 PM |
#28 |
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There are standards? |
smoogatz |
Feb-11-09 01:24 PM |
#30 |
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Sometimes a post is so well thought out and executed that |
Jane Austin |
Feb-11-09 01:24 PM |
#31 |
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let me help |
Froward69 |
Feb-11-09 01:26 PM |
#33 |
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Hell Yeah. |
OPERATIONMINDCRIME |
Feb-11-09 01:27 PM |
#34 |
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Nice post, hitler. nt |
Javaman |
Feb-11-09 01:39 PM |
#35 |
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A lot of folks here are inclined to shoot from the hip. |
Terran |
Feb-11-09 01:41 PM |
#36 |
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Falling? I'm sorry, but that's the way it's always been. |
ConservativeDemocrat |
Feb-11-09 01:44 PM |
#37 |
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Damn |
NeedleCast |
Feb-11-09 01:47 PM |
#40 |
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Mirror image? How DARE you?!? |
Lance_Boyle |
Feb-11-09 02:57 PM |
#56 |
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Ouch! But very apt. n/t |
QC |
Feb-11-09 04:42 PM |
#92 |
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I'll take self-defeating topic for 500, Alex |
NeedleCast |
Feb-11-09 01:46 PM |
#38 |
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Yes, they have. |
Hell Hath No Fury |
Feb-11-09 01:47 PM |
#39 |
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There is also the cult of personality phenomenon |
timtom |
Feb-14-09 07:41 AM |
#185 |
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Agreed completely. |
snot |
Feb-11-09 01:48 PM |
#41 |
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Depends on how long it takes to get this thread moved to the Lounge. n/t |
gkhouston |
Feb-11-09 01:50 PM |
#42 |
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Since you've been around so long- you should know |
snooper2 |
Feb-11-09 01:56 PM |
#44 |
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Yes there has been a change. |
rosesaylavee |
Feb-11-09 02:00 PM |
#45 |
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I posted something like this about |
4 t 4 |
Feb-11-09 02:10 PM |
#46 |
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Yep, I expected it. I'm wearing my flame retardant suit. |
Cyrano |
Feb-11-09 03:12 PM |
#63 |
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Ah, but you wear it well. |
rosesaylavee |
Feb-11-09 06:44 PM |
#110 |
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what standards? |
spanone |
Feb-11-09 02:11 PM |
#47 |
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I don't reply to every post I read, intelligent or other wise. |
madmom |
Feb-11-09 02:45 PM |
#49 |
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I think so. |
H2O Man |
Feb-11-09 02:47 PM |
#51 |
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I often nominate the thoughtful posts for the "greatest" page. |
devilgrrl |
Feb-11-09 02:50 PM |
#53 |
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Victim of it's success IMO. |
Greyhound |
Feb-11-09 03:07 PM |
#60 |
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I guess you're right, Greyhound. |
Cyrano |
Feb-11-09 03:16 PM |
#65 |
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It's a hard truth to accept. I don't know if it's people everywhere or just America. |
Greyhound |
Feb-11-09 03:37 PM |
#70 |
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This is exactly my thought. |
intheflow |
Feb-11-09 07:27 PM |
#121 |
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They Don't Exist |
NashVegas |
Feb-11-09 07:54 PM |
#126 |
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Deleted sub-thread |
Name removed |
Feb-11-09 03:08 PM |
#61 |
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Kids these days. |
cottonseed |
Feb-11-09 03:10 PM |
#62 |
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Get off my lawn. |
Cyrano |
Feb-11-09 03:21 PM |
#68 |
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I think someone asks this question every few years... |
Starry Messenger |
Feb-11-09 03:16 PM |
#64 |
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When I read an especially long, thought provoking peice, I am usually |
tavalon |
Feb-11-09 03:19 PM |
#66 |
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I find that I get good stuff |
hfojvt |
Feb-11-09 04:56 PM |
#99 |
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Well, here's one thought: |
JerseygirlCT |
Feb-11-09 03:21 PM |
#67 |
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I've thought about that, but many of the more intelligent posts I'm |
Cyrano |
Feb-11-09 03:24 PM |
#69 |
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Just wanted to say... |
pipi_k |
Feb-12-09 08:38 AM |
#152 |
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I was thinking today that another reason those posts might |
JerseygirlCT |
Feb-12-09 03:03 PM |
#180 |
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More than a mere 2 years, but I agree |
Deja Q |
Feb-11-09 03:41 PM |
#71 |
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Or how bout the "K & R if"'s or the "This post will probably sink like a rock BUT..."... |
newtothegame |
Feb-11-09 03:58 PM |
#73 |
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Here you go... |
Skinner |
Feb-11-09 04:09 PM |
#74 |
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I am STILL waiting for my pony. |
wakemeupwhenitsover |
Feb-11-09 04:17 PM |
#76 |
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Not to change the subject, but....... |
Dr.Phool |
Feb-11-09 04:25 PM |
#81 |
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I took a poll & most were on the side of not changing it. |
wakemeupwhenitsover |
Feb-11-09 05:14 PM |
#103 |
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With all the meta issues... |
JuniperLea |
Feb-11-09 04:24 PM |
#80 |
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The fun is over. |
AlCzervik |
Feb-11-09 04:29 PM |
#85 |
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woah...haha |
Regret My New Name |
Feb-12-09 12:52 PM |
#167 |
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Good post, Skinner |
mogster |
Feb-11-09 04:33 PM |
#87 |
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That's exactly when it started |
4 t 4 |
Feb-11-09 04:35 PM |
#90 |
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Steadily, for the past 8 years. |
Le Taz Hot |
Feb-11-09 04:16 PM |
#75 |
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Falling? No. In many ways DU is like the weather in San Diego...it seldom ever changes ~ |
bridgit |
Feb-11-09 04:18 PM |
#77 |
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Hey! |
QueenOfCalifornia |
Feb-11-09 07:22 PM |
#120 |
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heh-heh, well, I mean, cept for that global warming stuff... |
bridgit |
Feb-11-09 07:57 PM |
#127 |
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You stay classy San Diego... |
MajPayne2 |
Feb-14-09 08:14 AM |
#186 |
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I've actually been in the habit of citing... |
LanternWaste |
Feb-11-09 04:19 PM |
#78 |
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yes, conversation or lack of has shifted. but it isnt totally gone |
seabeyond |
Feb-11-09 04:20 PM |
#79 |
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I've noticed that people tend to be a little more thin-skinned recently. |
Vickers |
Feb-11-09 04:26 PM |
#82 |
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They let me in. |
MrPerson |
Feb-11-09 04:27 PM |
#83 |
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Blame it on the past 8 years, we were dumbed down by what's his name Bushed! |
skeewee08 |
Feb-11-09 04:29 PM |
#84 |
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Add to that.. the level of AUTHORITARIANISM has gone Waaaaay up, too! |
bobbolink |
Feb-11-09 04:34 PM |
#88 |
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Have been since DU got big enough to attract paid shills to push agendas around here. |
Runcible Spoon |
Feb-11-09 04:35 PM |
#89 |
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Way to many gatekeepers here. |
conscious evolution |
Feb-11-09 04:49 PM |
#95 |
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True. After a while the shills become pretty obvious. |
donco6 |
Feb-11-09 10:27 PM |
#139 |
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Far less information lately, and far more groupthink. |
QC |
Feb-11-09 04:39 PM |
#91 |
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And then there are all those annoying "K&R this thread" threads. |
tblue37 |
Feb-11-09 04:45 PM |
#93 |
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Thank you. It has gotten noticeably worse in the past month. |
Fly by night |
Feb-11-09 04:47 PM |
#94 |
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Both arrested development and a need to sound "tough". |
pacalo |
Feb-11-09 06:14 PM |
#108 |
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We're missing the news followers that we used to have. |
donco6 |
Feb-11-09 10:31 PM |
#140 |
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Sorry, Don't Agree |
ProfessorGAC |
Feb-11-09 04:50 PM |
#96 |
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You raise many critical questions that deserve a thoughtful response. |
Mike 03 |
Feb-11-09 04:52 PM |
#97 |
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Thanks for the post Mike. |
Cyrano |
Feb-12-09 02:43 PM |
#177 |
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I have an idea that may help. |
conscious evolution |
Feb-11-09 04:55 PM |
#98 |
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Reminds me of "Jeopardy." |
Faygo Kid |
Feb-11-09 04:57 PM |
#100 |
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Pff, you're just upset you didn't know the Miley Cyrus answers. |
Runcible Spoon |
Feb-11-09 05:05 PM |
#102 |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Feb-11-09 05:03 PM |
#101 |
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Explains why |
slay |
Feb-11-09 05:16 PM |
#105 |
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Only reason I still stop by is because I end up bored at work and at home. |
zonmoy |
Feb-11-09 05:37 PM |
#106 |
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Awww... youz knowz youz lovez us... |
slay |
Feb-11-09 08:17 PM |
#134 |
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Oh, yeah. |
HiFructosePronSyrup |
Feb-11-09 06:16 PM |
#109 |
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I especially like the misspelling of "independent", too. |
Warren DeMontague |
Feb-11-09 08:00 PM |
#129 |
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Is that the place where all the anti-semites go after they get tombstoned? |
Warren DeMontague |
Feb-11-09 08:03 PM |
#130 |
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I guess, but that doesn't mean there aren't tons here |
inthebrain |
Feb-12-09 05:47 PM |
#183 |
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Quick - call the DU office of standards and practices and file a complaint immediately!!! |
slay |
Feb-11-09 05:14 PM |
#104 |
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Not long ago, there was a post on the Greatest Page that had umpteen rec's & stayed there over the |
pacalo |
Feb-11-09 06:00 PM |
#107 |
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I agree. K&R n/t |
ms liberty |
Feb-11-09 06:45 PM |
#111 |
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agree completely |
amborin |
Feb-11-09 06:50 PM |
#113 |
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You are absolutely correct. Its rather discouraging. I now try to use the F-word in the title to |
K Gardner |
Feb-11-09 06:53 PM |
#114 |
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Things ain't what they used to be, and probably never was. |
eppur_se_muova |
Feb-11-09 06:56 PM |
#115 |
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You're correct, though to be fair, I've seen that trend in various internet forums |
ProgressIn2008 |
Feb-11-09 07:11 PM |
#117 |
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Hide thread is your friend. |
Earth Bound Misfit |
Feb-11-09 07:20 PM |
#119 |
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Well, you are right, but I can see your thread is going to drop |
Mike 03 |
Feb-11-09 07:38 PM |
#122 |
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it's trolls trying to rack up posts so they look credible when they post their... |
yurbud |
Feb-11-09 07:41 PM |
#123 |
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Lots of vanity posts, weather reports and |
JNelson6563 |
Feb-11-09 07:48 PM |
#124 |
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Rec if you like me, rec if you really, really like me! |
bridgit |
Feb-11-09 08:08 PM |
#131 |
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Standards? |
Warren DeMontague |
Feb-11-09 07:58 PM |
#128 |
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DU goes in cycles....and most of the time yelling "FUCK YOU! POS...THIS LIE" |
KoKo |
Feb-11-09 08:15 PM |
#132 |
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It's always been that way as far as I know... |
BlooInBloo |
Feb-11-09 08:16 PM |
#133 |
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The Law Of Large numbers, maybe? |
Iggo |
Feb-11-09 08:22 PM |
#135 |
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Recently I wrote a rather involved and researched post on Davos |
Subdivisions |
Feb-11-09 08:46 PM |
#136 |
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It is just as important to say what you have to say. |
.... callchet .... |
Feb-12-09 06:38 AM |
#147 |
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IMO, weekend readers/posters are more open to |
Cyrano |
Feb-12-09 03:00 PM |
#179 |
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Admittedly, mainly a lurker here |
Irish Girl |
Feb-11-09 09:08 PM |
#137 |
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Well...ummm...errr...what the hell...why not? |
ScreamingMeemie |
Feb-11-09 09:13 PM |
#138 |
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Yes its like uploading a 10sec video on youtube that gets 1mil hits and a video that took 3hrs |
democracy1st |
Feb-11-09 10:43 PM |
#141 |
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I'm glad you brought it up... |
MrMickeysMom |
Feb-11-09 10:58 PM |
#142 |
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I admit, I always read the posts that begin with "Fuck " |
Canuckistanian |
Feb-11-09 11:15 PM |
#143 |
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I don't mind the short exclamatory posts, |
Norrin Radd |
Feb-12-09 04:49 AM |
#144 |
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Exactly... |
pipi_k |
Feb-12-09 08:43 AM |
#153 |
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Here's the ultimate post saying essentially what you just said |
Canuckistanian |
Feb-12-09 09:54 AM |
#159 |
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Unquestionably the quality has gone down -- but there are specific areas of dumb nt |
HamdenRice |
Feb-12-09 06:11 AM |
#145 |
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It's about the same as it ever was. |
Lex |
Feb-12-09 06:14 AM |
#146 |
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I agree. n/t |
Beam Me Up |
Feb-12-09 11:47 AM |
#162 |
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Boards like this.. |
sendero |
Feb-12-09 06:43 AM |
#148 |
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The collective intelligence of any population is a constant |
Creideiki |
Feb-12-09 07:41 AM |
#149 |
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Hee hee hee! |
sofa king |
Feb-12-09 07:53 AM |
#150 |
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I have learned more here than any other singular source in my life. |
.... callchet .... |
Feb-12-09 08:06 AM |
#151 |
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I don't see many "Fuck Bush!!! Fuck Cheney!!! posts around here. Never have |
NNN0LHI |
Feb-12-09 08:48 AM |
#154 |
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PS...this is why |
pipi_k |
Feb-12-09 09:29 AM |
#156 |
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Too many people like the adrenalin buzz that conflict provides - its like that everywhere Im afraid |
Kashka-Kat |
Feb-12-09 09:34 AM |
#157 |
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Rather than DU's standards falling, I believe yours are rising. |
Occam Bandage |
Feb-12-09 09:58 AM |
#160 |
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You are 100% correct,Cyrano. |
Kajsa |
Feb-12-09 12:15 PM |
#163 |
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DU standards are not falling... |
ElboRuum |
Feb-12-09 12:31 PM |
#164 |
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Yes. Especially after the botched way the primaries were handled here. |
onehandle |
Feb-12-09 12:35 PM |
#165 |
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agree 100% and i'm new. N/T |
dcsmart |
Feb-12-09 12:53 PM |
#168 |
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thought out posts take alot of time and energy |
BlancheSplanchnik |
Feb-12-09 12:53 PM |
#169 |
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Sometimes, the key is a catchy title |
BlancheSplanchnik |
Feb-12-09 12:54 PM |
#170 |
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One thing I've noticed |
4 t 4 |
Feb-12-09 01:02 PM |
#171 |
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I agree Cyrano, but |
JitterbugPerfume |
Feb-12-09 01:04 PM |
#172 |
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You're right, and it's symptomatic of our society... |
veganlush |
Feb-12-09 01:12 PM |
#173 |
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Ah, in the old days the vegans weren't so preachy. |
Warren DeMontague |
Feb-12-09 01:40 PM |
#176 |
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the original post was condemning simplistic, short.. |
veganlush |
Feb-12-09 02:51 PM |
#178 |
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Okay, I take it back. |
Warren DeMontague |
Feb-12-09 03:32 PM |
#182 |
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stretch happens. |
veganlush |
Feb-12-09 06:40 PM |
#184 |
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When I first started reading DU posts (before posting myself), I didn't know that |
ifuseekamy |
Feb-14-09 10:36 AM |
#188 |
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Boy, are they ever. |
saltpoint |
Feb-14-09 10:38 AM |
#189 |