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IdaBriggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 01:09 AM
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37. You aren't being an asshole. You are right, and so was my mother.
I knew the rules -- I grew up watching them -- and I bent them for these people. I was nervous because the place had been vacant for two months, they had cash in hand, looked like good employment, and their references checked out, BUT their credit was iffy, and they had a sporadic payment history with their previous landlord, which they had a reasonable explanation for (she'd been laid off, but was working now). I also know the rule about 'evict immediately' but I let myself get played. I have lost track of the 'just give us a few more days' speeches; they keep planning on getting checks any minute from fill-in-the-blank.

My mother warned me about people like this, but I had to get burned myself because I really thought these people were just going through a temporary trouble that was going to be controllable, and kicking a family out two weeks before Christmas as he was waiting to find out if he had lung cancer was more than I could stomach. Plus, the answer seemed so reasonable -- income tax refund to catch everything up/get ahead a bit, and a decent lawyer to fight for his disability. There is also a rich brother in the picture someplace, but he apparently has been burned before, and refuses to help. That was kind of a serious warning, and is one of the clues I've been watching for the last couple of months.

I didn't take care of business. Now I'm burning. But she's still not a nice person for buying the damn car.
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  -ARGH! Its tough being an Evil Landlord!!! IdaBriggs  Feb-11-09 11:38 AM   #0 
  - You are not an evil landlord if you keep the apartments up, make repairs and don't charge  WI_DEM   Feb-11-09 11:42 AM   #1 
  - Thank you. I agree with you intellectually (as I said, its an honorable thing)  IdaBriggs   Feb-11-09 11:48 AM   #4 
  - When their lease is up can you just not renew them?  bluestateguy   Feb-11-09 11:46 AM   #2 
  - I have to evict them if they won't leave. Michigan is a Tenant Friendly state.  IdaBriggs   Feb-11-09 11:52 AM   #5 
  - At some point, it becomes an "us or them" situation  Warpy   Feb-11-09 11:46 AM   #3 
  - I am sorry for your pain.  peace13   Feb-11-09 11:53 AM   #6 
  - I recently considered purchasing a rental property and realized I couldn't do it  NNN0LHI   Feb-11-09 11:59 AM   #7 
  - you really should be making a profit on 8 rental rooms  hfojvt   Feb-11-09 12:10 PM   #8 
  - Only 6 are rented at the moment; we just had one guy disappear  IdaBriggs   Feb-11-09 12:33 PM   #11 
  - Yeah I think the rents should be raised.  barb162   Feb-11-09 12:55 PM   #20 
  - Don't know if this will help or not, but, my son was laid off and was behind in his rent, he  madmom   Feb-11-09 12:21 PM   #9 
  - She has been working with several different agencies here in Michigan  IdaBriggs   Feb-11-09 12:42 PM   #14 
     - You're not an idiot, just someone with a heart.  madmom   Feb-11-09 12:45 PM   #16 
     - Say it a million times  barb162   Feb-11-09 12:57 PM   #21 
  - What I wouldn't give to be able to rent a lovely place like yours...sigh...n/t  monmouth   Feb-11-09 12:23 PM   #10 
  - It looks like I have a vacancy coming up! LOL!  IdaBriggs   Feb-11-09 12:37 PM   #12 
     - That's pretty much my situation too. Unless my son comes to visit  monmouth   Feb-11-09 12:43 PM   #15 
  - Everyone I know, including us, has done that at some point with a tenant.  EFerrari   Feb-11-09 12:40 PM   #13 
  - Evicted them, or screwed up with people who weren't going to pay?  IdaBriggs   Feb-11-09 12:49 PM   #19 
     - The next few weeks watch very carefully if it looks like they're moving out.  barb162   Feb-11-09 01:00 PM   #23 
     - Screwed up with people who were going to be trouble and especially  EFerrari   Feb-11-09 01:29 PM   #25 
  - There's nothing like a tenant who pays on time and doesn't destroy the place.  barb162   Feb-11-09 12:48 PM   #17 
  - PS You are definitely not an evil landlord. You're a saint.  barb162   Feb-11-09 12:49 PM   #18 
  - Definitely goes in the "no good deed goes unpunished" file  Phoebe Loosinhouse   Feb-11-09 12:57 PM   #22 
  - You have it wrong--sometimes a sterotype fits  guardian   Feb-12-09 05:04 PM   #70 
  - There's nothing wrong with you, it's them. They weren't paying you even when  williesgirl   Feb-11-09 01:08 PM   #24 
  - Dude, you need to exercise some tough love.  4_TN_TITANS   Feb-11-09 02:34 PM   #26 
  - kicking for future reference n/t  Two Americas   Feb-11-09 03:27 PM   #27 
  - I have a rental in Michigan too  TWiley   Feb-11-09 03:53 PM   #28 
  - you are a sweetheart of a landlord  renate   Feb-11-09 04:16 PM   #29 
  - I feel your pain - I'm going to have a talk w/ my tenant tonight and see if we can negotiate  Kashka-Kat   Feb-11-09 04:40 PM   #30 
  - You've done all you can. ALL OF YOU could end up on the street  Ilsa   Feb-11-09 04:45 PM   #31 
  - UPDATE: SHE BOUGHT A NEW CAR!!!  IdaBriggs   Feb-12-09 12:32 AM   #32 
  - Can you file in Small Claims? Omg.  EFerrari   Feb-12-09 12:41 AM   #33 
  - She (they?) still owe a thousand dollars on our previous judgment,  IdaBriggs   Feb-12-09 12:47 AM   #34 
     - If she bought the car outright, maybe it can be awarded to you.  EFerrari   Feb-12-09 12:52 AM   #36 
        - Its possible; I'm going to look into it in the morning/talk to the court  IdaBriggs   Feb-12-09 01:18 AM   #38 
           - I don't anyone who hasn't made this mistake. It just comes with the territory.  EFerrari   Feb-12-09 01:34 AM   #39 
           - Since he signed, he HAS THE PAY THE RENT  LostinVA   Feb-12-09 11:26 AM   #50 
  - Okay  Brooklyns_Finest   Feb-12-09 12:48 AM   #35 
  - You aren't being an asshole. You are right, and so was my mother.  IdaBriggs   Feb-12-09 01:09 AM   #37 
  - Oh! Boot them the hell out of your place.  JVS   Feb-12-09 09:08 AM   #41 
  - Did her husband sign the lease -- if so, he IS legally obligated to pay the rent  LostinVA   Feb-12-09 11:24 AM   #49 
  - MORE UPDATE: She bought the car last week!!!  IdaBriggs   Feb-12-09 08:55 AM   #40 
  - I sympathize. Sincerely.  Robb   Feb-12-09 09:19 AM   #42 
  - I have a friend who is a landlord and his ONLY piece of advice is  Phoebe Loosinhouse   Feb-12-09 09:29 AM   #44 
  - He might be playing you, too -- remember that  LostinVA   Feb-12-09 11:28 AM   #51 
  - Its possible, but seems unlikely at this point -- he is going to be  IdaBriggs   Feb-12-09 01:01 PM   #53 
  - Ida--you probably already know this, but once you have the second judgment...  Shakespeare   Feb-12-09 01:29 PM   #55 
  - Just a question here - what exactly is involved in eviction and just having someone come (sheriff?)  Kashka-Kat   Feb-12-09 09:27 AM   #43 
  - It takes a bit of time, and please be aware this is Michigan specific.  IdaBriggs   Feb-12-09 09:55 AM   #45 
  - Wow...now I feel like a shit...  pipi_k   Feb-12-09 11:14 AM   #46 
  - PS....  pipi_k   Feb-12-09 11:16 AM   #47 
  - I don't think you're being evil at all - I'd love to have a landlord like you  petronius   Feb-12-09 11:20 AM   #48 
  - Heck, I want a landlord like me -- free housing for several months,  IdaBriggs   Feb-12-09 12:46 PM   #52 
  - Man, I wish you were my landlord. I ALWAYS put my cheque into the landlords slot  Evoman   Feb-12-09 01:19 PM   #54 
  - I discovered years ago that being a landlord requires a level of assholeness.  Xithras   Feb-12-09 01:32 PM   #56 
  - well, dunno if I'd call it being a-hole - its just refusing to be a door mat!!! question - does  Kashka-Kat   Feb-12-09 04:30 PM   #66 
     - I do gross income.  Xithras   Feb-12-09 04:55 PM   #68 
  - dupe n/t  Xithras   Feb-12-09 01:32 PM   #57 
  - The sad thing is once you evict her, she'll find another landlord  Zywiec   Feb-12-09 01:42 PM   #58 
  - Job and personal references checked out; there was a sporadic  IdaBriggs   Feb-12-09 01:58 PM   #61 
  - Do you and your wife work outside of this? Because you mentioned that you need their income to pay  schmear happens   Feb-12-09 01:46 PM   # 
  - I am the wife; I have twin almost two year olds, and returned to work  IdaBriggs   Feb-12-09 02:11 PM   #62 
     - Ugh! I didn't know the half of it! That is outrageous!  schmear happens   Feb-12-09 02:17 PM   #63 
  - Do you and your wife work outside of this? Because you mentioned that you need their income to pay  schmear happens   Feb-12-09 01:46 PM   # 
  - Do you and your wife work outside of this? Because you mentioned that you need their income to pay  schmear happens   Feb-12-09 01:46 PM   #59 
  - Being a landlord...  jxnmsdemguy65   Feb-12-09 01:52 PM   #60 
  - As I said, I was raised to believe it was an honorable thing to provide  IdaBriggs   Feb-12-09 02:18 PM   #64 
     - What I have to remind myself of is that its entirely reasonable to expect to find a tenant who is  Kashka-Kat   Feb-12-09 04:37 PM   #67 
  - It's also hard out there for a pimp  alcibiades_mystery   Feb-12-09 02:19 PM   #65 
  - I rent out my condo. Rental apps with $30 credit report fee plus fat deposit has worked for me.  aikoaiko   Feb-12-09 05:03 PM   #69 
  - Can you get a short term note or a home equity loan to get you over the hump?  Vinca   Feb-12-09 05:09 PM   #71 
  - LAST UPDATE ON THREAD: She intends to stay until (at least) the end of the month.  IdaBriggs   Feb-14-09 01:13 PM   #72 
 

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