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Mon Mar-26-07 12:41 AM
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| 22. Years ago, the lawyer shows were about defense lawyers as heroes |
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Shows like The Defenders, Matlock, and Perry Mason featured criminal defense lawyers who were the heroes. The shows were oriented not around getting criminals off on a technicality but in proving that the prosecution had wrongfully accused an individual. These TV lawyers were protecting their clients' constitutional rights against an oppressive authoritarian system of law. The Defenders in particular avoided simple stances on cases and didn't show the legal process as all black and white. Instead, The Defenders brought out the ambiguities inherent in the law and in right and wrong, stressing the uncertain and fleeting nature of justice before the law.
Personally, I love Law And Order, but it's the first half that I really like. I love detective stories and I really enjoy the writing of the show. I think the plots are usually clever. The second half involving the prosecution is also interesting but I keep waiting for them to show the accused as a wrongfully accused person whose rights have been trampled. I don't think I've seen that in many episodes at all. The prosecution on Law And Order is shown to be white knights whereas in real life DAs are often shady overly-ambitious characters and game-playing liars just as much as the criminal defense lawyers. Usually, by the time the trial part of Law And Order starts, we know the accused is guilty and it's just a matter of outsmarting them and their attorney in the courtroom, usually by digging up new evidence. We always seem to be pulling for the the conviction of the accused on that show, whersas in shows like The Defenders, Perry Mason, and Matlock, the audience was always pulling for the accused.
I think it's interesting to note how in the 1960s, a truly outstanding and extremely well-acted lawyer show like The Defenders (one of the best TV shows ever) was decidedly liberal. Whereas, Law and Order tends to be a bit more conservative. Of course it's the result of the fact that one show had the defense as the protagonist whereas the more modern show has the prosecution as the protagonist. I wonder if a lawyer show today where the criminal defense attorneys are its heroes could attain the success of Law And Order.
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| -If West Wing is the show for Democrats, then Law and Order is the show for Republicans. |
WorldResident |
Mar-25-07 11:59 PM |
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Huh? n/t |
Erika |
Mar-26-07 12:03 AM |
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Yeah, whoda whadda? |
gatorboy |
Mar-26-07 12:04 AM |
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Are you serious? |
gravity |
Mar-26-07 12:04 AM |
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Sure I am ... |
WorldResident |
Mar-26-07 12:07 AM |
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Well it's a police mentality for sure |
gravity |
Mar-26-07 12:17 AM |
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*sighs* |
Blashyrkh |
Mar-26-07 12:05 AM |
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Not the Red/Green show! n/t |
John Q. Citizen |
Mar-26-07 12:08 AM |
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I don't know what the hell that is, but yes, that too. |
Blashyrkh |
Mar-26-07 12:10 AM |
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I disagree, the main motivation is |
gravity |
Mar-26-07 12:15 AM |
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Yeah, and the internet isn't. Right... |
Bicoastal |
Mar-26-07 12:20 AM |
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Just for that, we're repossessing your duct tape. Keep your stick on the ice. |
Vidar |
Mar-26-07 02:45 AM |
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I don't what that is,but yes,I will pass opinion on that too. |
Forkboy |
Mar-26-07 05:15 PM |
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The show is irrelevant. |
Blashyrkh |
Mar-26-07 10:15 PM |
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Uninformed opinions are irrelevant to me. |
Forkboy |
Mar-26-07 11:30 PM |
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So are people who reply after reading the subject title and not the content of the post. |
Blashyrkh |
Mar-27-07 12:43 AM |
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I did. |
Forkboy |
Mar-27-07 02:33 AM |
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The Red Green show is brilliant! |
Old and In the Way |
Mar-26-07 12:20 AM |
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I loved Red Green! They haven't run that here in Chicago in a long time. |
Gidney N Cloyd |
Mar-26-07 12:27 AM |
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"Keep your stick on the ice." |
Forkboy |
Mar-26-07 05:18 PM |
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Two words...The Bath-A-Que |
Forkboy |
Mar-26-07 05:17 PM |
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I just let my kids watch that for the first time yesterday. They loved it |
GreenPartyVoter |
Mar-26-07 10:54 AM |
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Hey, there's nothing wrong with being an introvert!!! |
Odin2005 |
Mar-26-07 08:00 AM |
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Curious |
never_get_over_it |
Mar-26-07 11:26 PM |
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Disagree, I think the show is pretty fair |
Hippo_Tron |
Mar-26-07 12:16 AM |
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I agree with you |
kaygore |
Mar-26-07 12:27 AM |
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Delay |
WernhamHogg |
Mar-26-07 01:03 AM |
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I've been watching L&O all night. |
Old and In the Way |
Mar-26-07 12:18 AM |
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I disagree. Law and Order shows how things work behind the background. |
w4rma |
Mar-26-07 12:19 AM |
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I hate to tell you this but the creator, Dick Wolf, is as liberal as they come. |
gatorboy |
Mar-26-07 12:22 AM |
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He tipped his hand when the DA on SVU subpoenaed Rumsfeld |
frustrated_lefty |
Mar-26-07 06:13 AM |
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I loved that episode, even Fred Thompson was great in it |
Hippo_Tron |
Mar-26-07 05:12 PM |
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And the D.A. played by Sam Waterston |
Marnieworld |
Mar-26-07 11:02 AM |
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You are absolutely correct |
AverageJoe |
Mar-26-07 12:23 AM |
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Have you even watched the show? |
NaturalHigh |
Mar-26-07 10:55 AM |
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Not to mention, the defense attorneys are presented fairly. |
kiahzero |
Mar-26-07 10:20 PM |
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If you watched regularly |
Bitwit1234 |
Mar-26-07 12:24 AM |
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I've always hated this show |
Bluestar |
Mar-26-07 12:26 AM |
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Yeah that Sam Waterston is a jackbooted fascist |
rockymountaindem |
Mar-26-07 12:38 AM |
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Years ago, the lawyer shows were about defense lawyers as heroes |
aint_no_life_nowhere |
Mar-26-07 12:41 AM |
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I have to disagree there. About the only thing Republican about these shows is Fred Thompson. |
bklyncowgirl |
Mar-26-07 06:08 AM |
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BULL! L&O is a great show. |
Odin2005 |
Mar-26-07 08:04 AM |
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What an idiotic post. |
NaturalHigh |
Mar-26-07 10:52 AM |
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Gun control's is a statist ideal |
WorldResident |
Mar-26-07 06:07 PM |
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*groan* |
WilliamPitt |
Mar-26-07 10:55 AM |
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Your groan is better than the lower intestinal gurgling in the OP. |
Forkboy |
Mar-26-07 05:19 PM |
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Whaaa? That's one of my favorite programs! |
Lil Missy |
Mar-26-07 11:01 AM |
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You've misjudged Law & Order somewhat |
Bryan |
Mar-26-07 10:38 PM |
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