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Eryemil Donating Member (958 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 10:37 AM
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31. You're joking, right?
I don't necessarily mean to sound condescending but bloody dead-Jew-on-a-stick mate.
Firstly, look at the etymology of the word itself.

Virgin:
c.1200, "unmarried or chaste woman noted for religious piety and having a position of reverence in the Church," from O.Fr. virgine, from L. virginem (nom. virgo) "maiden, unwedded girl or woman," also an adj., "fresh, unused," probably related to virga "young shoot." For sense evolution, cf. Gk. talis "a marriageable girl," cognate with L. talea "rod, stick, bar." Meaning "young woman in a state of inviolate chastity" is recorded from c.1310. Also applied since c.1330 to a chaste man. Meaning "naive or inexperienced person" is attested from 1953. The adj. is recorded from 1560 in the lit. sense; fig. sense of "pure, untainted" is attested from c.1300. Virginity is attested from c.1303, from O.Fr. virginite, from L. virginitatem (nom. virginitas), from virgo.

The -word- virgin is of Roman origin and has many Christian connotations but the concept is far, far older.
It is only in modern times that the concept of 'male virginity' has even developed. The word itself hints to this. Do you think that in ancient times these desert savages cared at all whether the males they were practically selling their unspoiled daughters to had had sex?

Have you thought about WHY we have such a hard time settling on an actual definition of virginity today? It's because of all the added variables. Egalitarianism, the rise of visible sexual orientation and the broadening of our sexual horizons in general.
Once upon a time a virgin was a woman with an unperforated hymen. As I said, just like the concept of adultery it was more or less designed with the simple aim of making sure that a husband's wife actually gave birth to his sons.
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  -Is a gay woman who never has sex with men really a virgin? Cardiff  Feb-06-09 10:07 AM   #0 
  - Why do you care how other people measure virginity?  Dreamer Tatum   Feb-06-09 10:09 AM   #1 
  - Why shouldn't I care? Especially when  Cardiff   Feb-06-09 10:10 AM   #5 
     - I noticed that in that thread  treestar   Feb-06-09 10:27 AM   #28 
  - Who cares about that virginity crap anyway.  dbonds   Feb-06-09 10:09 AM   #2 
  - I hear ye.  Smith_3   Feb-06-09 10:13 AM   #11 
  - Being gay myself..I can only guess..  HillbillyBob   Feb-06-09 10:13 AM   #12 
  - LOL!!!  Cardiff   Feb-06-09 10:14 AM   #15 
     - If she has had sex with a woman she knows what real sex is :)  dbonds   Feb-06-09 10:21 AM   #24 
  - In the bad old days, it was to ensure the first offspring was his  Warpy   Feb-06-09 10:31 AM   #30 
  - An interesting question  Ohio Joe   Feb-06-09 10:09 AM   #3 
  - A friend of mine used to use the term "penis virgin"  Cardiff   Feb-06-09 10:11 AM   #6 
  - Do you know this is the case with Condi?  Radical Activist   Feb-06-09 10:10 AM   #4 
  - I don't really care one way or the other about Condi.  Cardiff   Feb-06-09 10:12 AM   #8 
  - Good question.  enlightenment   Feb-06-09 10:15 AM   #16 
  - What bothers me is this preoccupation with other people's "alleged virginity."  Heidi   Feb-06-09 10:11 AM   #7 
  - But that doesn't answer my question.  Cardiff   Feb-06-09 10:12 AM   #9 
  - The concept of virginity is just another in a long line of ruses put in place to...  Eryemil   Feb-06-09 10:12 AM   #10 
  - How do you figure?  Cardiff   Feb-06-09 10:13 AM   #13 
  - Just part of the sperm wars. A way for ancient men to make sure that their genes were passed on  Eryemil   Feb-06-09 10:15 AM   #17 
  - I am a parent volunteer with my daughters high school GSA--we  coffeenap   Feb-06-09 10:17 AM   #21 
  - The concept of virginity is to verbally characterize someone who has not had sex  Dreamer Tatum   Feb-06-09 10:19 AM   #22 
     - Not had sex with whom?  Cardiff   Feb-06-09 10:20 AM   #23 
     - Where did I draw a distinction?  Dreamer Tatum   Feb-06-09 10:26 AM   #26 
     - You're joking, right?  Eryemil   Feb-06-09 10:37 AM   #31 
  - who the hell cares. why the fuck are we talking about sex life. n/t  seabeyond   Feb-06-09 10:14 AM   #14 
  - Because the thread above states that Condi is a virgin, along with Suze Ormand. But both women  Cardiff   Feb-06-09 10:16 AM   #19 
     - condi's sex life or lack of is no ones business, and i certainly dont give a fuck  seabeyond   Feb-06-09 10:27 AM   #27 
  - I agree  Fleshdancer   Feb-06-09 10:16 AM   #18 
  - Thank you. That was what I was thinking.  Cardiff   Feb-06-09 10:17 AM   #20 
  - to get all technical, if the hymen is intact, she's still a virgin  Lerkfish   Feb-06-09 10:24 AM   #25 
  - Who cares?  WI_DEM   Feb-06-09 10:28 AM   #29 
  - Is Condi Rice's sex life, or alleged lack of one, anybody's business but hers?  Arkansas Granny   Feb-06-09 10:39 AM   #32 
  - locking  maddezmom   Feb-06-09 10:40 AM   #33 
 

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