| 159. Those rules are not from these days |
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they are as old as at least Johnson
Jeesus age, they have a reason for existing... and they are not only reserved for AF 1, but since you work in the industry I am sure you know this...
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| -To those complaining about the President taking AF 1 on a short flight |
nadinbrzezinski |
Feb-05-09 10:22 PM |
#0 |
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I suggest the whiners take a short plane ride to kiss my ass. |
Hanse |
Feb-05-09 10:24 PM |
#1 |
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My hat's off to you sir for a memorable quote... |
JeffreyWilliamson |
Feb-05-09 11:28 PM |
#64 |
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Did I mention |
Tangerine LaBamba |
Feb-06-09 12:48 AM |
#145 |
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Where can you land a 747 close to Williamsburg other than the Norfolk Navy Base? |
Captain Hilts |
Feb-05-09 10:24 PM |
#2 |
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I've got no clue... but the crew of AF1 is the best the AF has to offer |
nadinbrzezinski |
Feb-05-09 10:25 PM |
#4 |
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Yeah. I just don't know the logistics and would like to know. Interesting! |
Captain Hilts |
Feb-05-09 10:27 PM |
#9 |
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I saw it at McCarren (Las Vegas) airport |
Why Syzygy |
Feb-05-09 10:40 PM |
#20 |
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The President landed at Newport News-Williamsburg Airport in |
Subdivisions |
Feb-05-09 10:27 PM |
#8 |
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Pat Henry "International?" How 'bout that! |
Captain Hilts |
Feb-05-09 10:28 PM |
#11 |
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Yes, the former Patrick Henry Airport. Man, that was a long time ago! |
Subdivisions |
Feb-05-09 10:34 PM |
#16 |
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A friend of mine at NOB would watch them practice touch and goes on the runway there. nt |
Captain Hilts |
Feb-06-09 09:35 AM |
#206 |
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hey!...i didn't know you were local! |
Blue_Tires |
Feb-06-09 12:17 AM |
#105 |
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I heart jet noise! My Maternal Unit is near the Amphib Base. nt |
Captain Hilts |
Feb-06-09 09:35 AM |
#205 |
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Newport News. It is right beside Richmond |
MiniMe |
Feb-06-09 10:42 AM |
#211 |
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I've been driving that stretch for 20years. I would never suggest he drive it. nt |
Captain Hilts |
Feb-06-09 11:35 AM |
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Name removed |
Feb-05-09 10:25 PM |
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The show of the flag is an added bonus |
nadinbrzezinski |
Feb-05-09 10:26 PM |
#5 |
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A "show of political force" . is good enough for me! huuuhaa |
Why Syzygy |
Feb-05-09 10:52 PM |
#35 |
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He's also Bruce Wayne. |
Ikonoklast |
Feb-05-09 10:27 PM |
#7 |
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He's not Peter Parker??? |
TahitiNut |
Feb-05-09 10:35 PM |
#17 |
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No windshield on the plane he pilots. |
Ikonoklast |
Feb-05-09 10:51 PM |
#34 |
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The unmistakable sign of a happy biplane pilot ... |
TahitiNut |
Feb-05-09 10:57 PM |
#40 |
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You two are bad |
nadinbrzezinski |
Feb-05-09 11:10 PM |
#49 |
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Hey, I didn't start it! |
Ikonoklast |
Feb-05-09 11:23 PM |
#61 |
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surly motherly look, crossed arms, you know the look |
nadinbrzezinski |
Feb-05-09 11:25 PM |
#62 |
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Meh. Look at me, I'm shaking. |
Ikonoklast |
Feb-05-09 11:34 PM |
#70 |
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But aunties are harder to manipulate |
nadinbrzezinski |
Feb-05-09 11:41 PM |
#72 |
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LOL |
Uzybone |
Feb-05-09 10:27 PM |
#10 |
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if you're like me, you don't... |
dysfunctional press |
Feb-05-09 10:32 PM |
#13 |
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Obviously. I know obvious when I see it. I double-majored and minored in obviousity. n/t. |
Parker CA |
Feb-05-09 10:39 PM |
# |
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I would guess it is easier to arrange secret service protection on a |
jwirr |
Feb-05-09 10:27 PM |
#6 |
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Yeah... it is |
nadinbrzezinski |
Feb-05-09 10:29 PM |
#12 |
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Plus, you have no idea what a motorcade to Williamsburg would do to |
MiniMe |
Feb-06-09 01:31 AM |
#185 |
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That's really the crux of it. When Clinton was still |
LibDemAlways |
Feb-06-09 10:32 AM |
#210 |
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I recall seeing AF1 over Silicon Valley a few times during Clinton/Gore ... |
TahitiNut |
Feb-05-09 10:33 PM |
#14 |
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Consider the alternative |
Tangerine LaBamba |
Feb-05-09 10:34 PM |
#15 |
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Isn't 150 miles doable in a helicopter? |
Brother Buzz |
Feb-05-09 10:41 PM |
#21 |
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We are not allowed to question Obama for doing what Bush would be excoriated for doing. |
ferrous wheel |
Feb-05-09 10:44 PM |
#24 |
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When did you ever excoriate Bush over taking Air Force One. |
Hanse |
Feb-05-09 10:45 PM |
#25 |
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I don't have links but I gave him major shit when he flew over NOLA after Katrina. |
ferrous wheel |
Feb-05-09 10:47 PM |
#27 |
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Can Marine One fly 150 miles? |
Brother Buzz |
Feb-05-09 10:48 PM |
#28 |
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WE DONT FUGGING CARE! |
Why Syzygy |
Feb-05-09 10:50 PM |
#32 |
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You're right. I remember when the Republicans said that very same thing. |
ferrous wheel |
Feb-05-09 11:15 PM |
#55 |
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wtf? |
Why Syzygy |
Feb-05-09 11:40 PM |
#71 |
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I wish you luck with your stock in apostrophe manufacturers! Keep on using them, |
ferrous wheel |
Feb-05-09 11:51 PM |
#80 |
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As safely as a fixed wing aircraft? NO, it can't |
jberryhill |
Feb-05-09 10:56 PM |
#39 |
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Well, that certainly explains why they never fly it over populated areas. |
ferrous wheel |
Feb-05-09 11:12 PM |
#52 |
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that's as ridiculous as comparing the odds of winning the lottery with being hit by lightning. |
ddeclue |
Feb-05-09 11:56 PM |
#84 |
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SH3 version = 540 nautical mile range, UH60 version=320 nautical mile range |
ddeclue |
Feb-05-09 11:54 PM |
#82 |
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So I suppose they can carry as many passengers as a 747. |
Hanse |
Feb-06-09 12:02 AM |
#91 |
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Do you also suppose that the US government only owns ONE helicopter? |
ddeclue |
Feb-06-09 12:07 AM |
#94 |
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Tell me oh bright one, how vulnerable is one of these birds to |
nadinbrzezinski |
Feb-06-09 12:09 AM |
#96 |
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Really NOT very... |
ddeclue |
Feb-06-09 12:15 AM |
#103 |
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Yeah I am sure |
nadinbrzezinski |
Feb-06-09 12:18 AM |
#107 |
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Well you don't really know what you're talking about and I can't help you |
ddeclue |
Feb-06-09 12:25 AM |
#115 |
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Actually I do, and so do experts at places like oh Janes |
nadinbrzezinski |
Feb-06-09 12:34 AM |
#125 |
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You really DON'T know what you're talking about. |
ddeclue |
Feb-06-09 12:38 AM |
#130 |
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So the TV program told you ALL there is to know about AF 1? |
nadinbrzezinski |
Feb-06-09 12:43 AM |
#138 |
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No the TV show didn't tell me all that I need to know but I already know |
ddeclue |
Feb-06-09 12:46 AM |
#143 |
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So the regular off the line 747-200 comes off the factory floor |
nadinbrzezinski |
Feb-06-09 12:54 AM |
#151 |
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Every one of these VIP planes from the 89AW is equipped with these specialized features. |
ddeclue |
Feb-06-09 01:02 AM |
#158 |
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I listed the specialized features, not that they are going to refuel in a 150 flight |
nadinbrzezinski |
Feb-06-09 01:06 AM |
#163 |
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They don't all have an operating room but in reality |
ddeclue |
Feb-06-09 01:11 AM |
#168 |
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That's ok, believe whatever you want to believe |
nadinbrzezinski |
Feb-06-09 01:15 AM |
#172 |
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Not to be picky, but the Air Force does not use the C-5 as an aerial refueler. |
A HERETIC I AM |
Feb-06-09 06:56 AM |
#200 |
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I'm okay with the show. About time we saw some show of the POWER inherent |
Why Syzygy |
Feb-06-09 12:50 AM |
#147 |
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In SOME circumstances YES...I would agree with you... |
ddeclue |
Feb-06-09 12:56 AM |
#152 |
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I soooo disagree. |
Why Syzygy |
Feb-06-09 01:00 AM |
#156 |
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Can't tell someone to do something that you yourself won't do... |
ddeclue |
Feb-06-09 01:03 AM |
#160 |
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So you're saying instead of one plane they should take a squadron of helicopters. |
Hanse |
Feb-06-09 12:10 AM |
#97 |
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Umm NO... I'm saying the White House Press corps can take the bus... |
ddeclue |
Feb-06-09 12:18 AM |
#106 |
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Oh, the president can take a helicopter... |
Hanse |
Feb-06-09 12:24 AM |
#112 |
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Okay, what large staff does the Pres need for a 3 hour cruise. |
ferrous wheel |
Feb-06-09 12:26 AM |
#116 |
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Well there's Gilligan.... the skipper too... the millionaire and his wife... |
ddeclue |
Feb-06-09 12:29 AM |
#120 |
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HEEHEE |
ferrous wheel |
Feb-06-09 12:33 AM |
#123 |
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! |
SammyWinstonJack |
Feb-06-09 09:26 AM |
#203 |
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Oh, I don't know. |
Hanse |
Feb-06-09 12:34 AM |
#124 |
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And he doesn't need to fly with them all by his side on a tiny trip like this... |
ddeclue |
Feb-06-09 12:41 AM |
#136 |
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Wait........ |
Tangerine LaBamba |
Feb-06-09 01:10 AM |
#167 |
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And if his time is valuable at all, the helicopte is the quickest way |
ddeclue |
Feb-06-09 01:12 AM |
#169 |
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Right. He just needs to sit |
Tangerine LaBamba |
Feb-06-09 01:18 AM |
#175 |
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Oh you are so tiresome and not making any relevant points.. |
ddeclue |
Feb-06-09 01:23 AM |
#180 |
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Um NO he doesn't need to have the entire White House staff |
ddeclue |
Feb-06-09 12:27 AM |
#117 |
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So he doesn't need that busload of people to follow his helicopter? |
Hanse |
Feb-06-09 12:32 AM |
#122 |
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NO make up YOUR mind... |
ddeclue |
Feb-06-09 12:43 AM |
#140 |
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Well, dammit, Doug Dimwit, |
Tangerine LaBamba |
Feb-06-09 01:21 AM |
#176 |
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Umm unless they've recently changed the # it's still 202-456-1414... dimwit... |
ddeclue |
Feb-06-09 01:24 AM |
#181 |
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You know |
Control-Z |
Feb-06-09 01:37 AM |
#188 |
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Of course he CAN take whoever he WANTS.. |
ddeclue |
Feb-06-09 01:44 AM |
#192 |
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Again. You know that? |
Control-Z |
Feb-06-09 12:38 PM |
#215 |
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Cue.... |
Oilwellian |
Feb-06-09 08:24 AM |
#201 |
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they always fly three identical helicopters in a marine one flight... |
1 |
Feb-06-09 12:23 AM |
#111 |
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Any time Marine One is in the air, there are at least TWO other identical choppers nearby. |
ferrous wheel |
Feb-06-09 12:28 AM |
#118 |
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It's cool to watch the fakes pull away from the one carrying the P at the last minute. nt |
Captain Hilts |
Feb-06-09 09:40 AM |
#209 |
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actually, a uh60 has a range radius of 320 miles. so effectively a range of 600+ miles... |
1 |
Feb-06-09 12:21 AM |
#110 |
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That would assume that they were going to fly it totally out of fuel |
ddeclue |
Feb-06-09 12:35 AM |
#126 |
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Ditto. Where oh where is the proof you profer? |
Why Syzygy |
Feb-05-09 10:49 PM |
#29 |
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Feb-05-09 10:50 PM |
#31 |
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Haha...you're an amusing little boy |
ferrous wheel |
Feb-05-09 11:08 PM |
#46 |
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Oh, |
Tangerine LaBamba |
Feb-05-09 11:10 PM |
#48 |
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These pretzels are making me thirsty. Expresso, please! nt |
Why Syzygy |
Feb-05-09 11:44 PM |
#74 |
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But, but, but, |
Tangerine LaBamba |
Feb-05-09 11:45 PM |
#75 |
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Ah, the chase. |
Why Syzygy |
Feb-06-09 12:03 AM |
#92 |
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It was just so stupid |
Tangerine LaBamba |
Feb-06-09 12:07 AM |
#95 |
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Oh wow. |
Why Syzygy |
Feb-06-09 12:15 AM |
#102 |
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Of course it's racial |
Tangerine LaBamba |
Feb-06-09 12:24 AM |
#113 |
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Someone posted pics earlier (of him boarding the plane) |
Why Syzygy |
Feb-06-09 12:28 AM |
#119 |
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He just landed at Andrews AFB |
Tangerine LaBamba |
Feb-06-09 12:35 AM |
#127 |
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ack! But you know what? It's a Pentagon expenditure! haaa |
Why Syzygy |
Feb-06-09 12:38 AM |
#131 |
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No, I said that.......... |
Tangerine LaBamba |
Feb-06-09 12:45 AM |
#142 |
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YQW. |
Why Syzygy |
Feb-06-09 12:58 AM |
#154 |
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I think that's terrific...he gets off the great big plane. How much it costs us |
ferrous wheel |
Feb-06-09 12:43 AM |
#139 |
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Bullshit. nt |
Why Syzygy |
Feb-06-09 12:45 AM |
#141 |
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You're still here? |
Tangerine LaBamba |
Feb-06-09 12:46 AM |
#144 |
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You're an amusing little p |
ferrous wheel |
Feb-06-09 07:06 PM |
#222 |
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Nobody has said (I believe I made the OP) that he can not. The question is, |
ferrous wheel |
Feb-06-09 12:24 AM |
#114 |
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He's not 'our guy'. He's Mr. President, Sir! especially to you. nt |
Why Syzygy |
Feb-06-09 12:31 AM |
#121 |
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You don't have to call me Sir, and the president works for me. |
ferrous wheel |
Feb-06-09 07:05 PM |
#221 |
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that's a fail. and an obvious one. |
stillcool |
Feb-05-09 11:09 PM |
#47 |
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My memo addresses Bush's LAST flight, not Obama's flight |
Brother Buzz |
Feb-05-09 11:15 PM |
#57 |
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No, there's too much |
Tangerine LaBamba |
Feb-05-09 10:49 PM |
#30 |
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The HMX squadrons use several D.C. airfields |
arcadian |
Feb-05-09 11:10 PM |
#50 |
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Mile for mile - fixed wing aircraft are safer /nt |
jberryhill |
Feb-05-09 10:55 PM |
#37 |
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Um... not so much...no.... |
ddeclue |
Feb-06-09 12:06 AM |
#93 |
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Helicopters have "too many moving parts." nt |
Captain Hilts |
Feb-06-09 09:37 AM |
#208 |
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The Jesus Nut is the one essential part that has no redundecy or backup |
Brother Buzz |
Feb-06-09 12:50 PM |
#216 |
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The Marines will train you to find out! |
Why Syzygy |
Feb-05-09 10:56 PM |
#38 |
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Try to understand this... not about fuel efficiency |
nadinbrzezinski |
Feb-05-09 11:12 PM |
#53 |
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Yeah, that's what I thought. Take about 45 minutes? |
trof |
Feb-06-09 09:19 AM |
#202 |
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Yes, I'm kinda surprised. Hell, they shoulda strapped him into a fighter from Pax River - |
Captain Hilts |
Feb-06-09 09:36 AM |
#207 |
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No, there wasn't enough room in the cramped cockpit for his cod piece and his brain |
Brother Buzz |
Feb-06-09 11:30 AM |
#212 |
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I am so happy you're not referring to me as a stupid asshole, because |
ferrous wheel |
Feb-05-09 10:43 PM |
#23 |
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How many people do you know |
Tangerine LaBamba |
Feb-05-09 10:51 PM |
#33 |
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Camp David is not farther away than Williamsburg. |
Pithlet |
Feb-05-09 11:06 PM |
#44 |
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Yes, you are right, I was wrong. The difference is about 30 miles. |
ferrous wheel |
Feb-05-09 11:33 PM |
#67 |
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The difference is greater than that. |
Pithlet |
Feb-05-09 11:45 PM |
#76 |
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No, dickwad |
Tangerine LaBamba |
Feb-05-09 11:48 PM |
# |
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"I raised this very point LOUDLY" |
jberryhill |
Feb-06-09 09:27 AM |
#204 |
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Ye asked for reference you got reference |
nadinbrzezinski |
Feb-05-09 11:14 PM |
#54 |
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I absolutely agree. What was good enough for Bush ought to be good enough for our President. |
ferrous wheel |
Feb-05-09 10:35 PM |
#18 |
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Deleted sub-thread |
Name removed |
Feb-05-09 10:39 PM |
#19 |
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Heh. I know. That's an excuse now? Bush did it tooooooooo? nt |
ProgressIn2008 |
Feb-05-09 11:00 PM |
#42 |
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And Clinton, and Bush Sr, and Reagan... and Carter |
nadinbrzezinski |
Feb-05-09 11:29 PM |
#65 |
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They brought Marine One as well. |
arcadian |
Feb-05-09 10:43 PM |
#22 |
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You've GOT to be kidding! At DU? This isn't his first flight anyway. |
Why Syzygy |
Feb-05-09 10:46 PM |
#26 |
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He wasn't President then |
MiniMe |
Feb-06-09 01:35 AM |
#186 |
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Aren't there also problems with motorcades out of D.C. due to some bridges |
havocmom |
Feb-05-09 10:54 PM |
#36 |
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I never heard that about bridges......... |
Tangerine LaBamba |
Feb-05-09 11:00 PM |
#43 |
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so, since you never heard it yourself, it can't be possible? |
havocmom |
Feb-05-09 11:11 PM |
#51 |
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No, it's possible, |
Tangerine LaBamba |
Feb-05-09 11:15 PM |
#56 |
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Limousines? |
jberryhill |
Feb-06-09 06:18 PM |
#220 |
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All the Cabinet members |
Tangerine LaBamba |
Feb-06-09 07:43 PM |
#223 |
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As I said to somebody else on another thread |
nadinbrzezinski |
Feb-05-09 11:20 PM |
#60 |
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Still better than locking highways and creating traffic problems |
SergeyDovlatov |
Feb-05-09 10:57 PM |
#41 |
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VIPs cause traffic problems? NAHHHHH |
nadinbrzezinski |
Feb-05-09 11:27 PM |
#63 |
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I guess people would prefer he either.. |
stillcool |
Feb-05-09 11:07 PM |
#45 |
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To put it in perspective, an ice breaker ship can use 3500 gallons of diesel per hour. |
Gregorian |
Feb-05-09 11:16 PM |
#58 |
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That's an incredible fact. 3500 gallons!?!?! I learn something new every day at DU. |
Parker CA |
Feb-05-09 11:20 PM |
#59 |
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He should be using one of those new electric hybrid jetliners. |
Hanse |
Feb-05-09 11:34 PM |
#69 |
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If there is a FINAL tank of gasoline on all the planet Earth, I want it to be Obama's!! |
Why Syzygy |
Feb-05-09 11:50 PM |
#79 |
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That is very interesting. Bizarre, but interesting. |
ferrous wheel |
Feb-06-09 12:00 AM |
#89 |
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OFFS. Marine 1 is NOT AS SAFE as AF1. |
Shakespeare |
Feb-05-09 11:32 PM |
#66 |
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I know that, you know that |
nadinbrzezinski |
Feb-05-09 11:33 PM |
#68 |
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Bullshit. You don't know any such thing and neither does anyone else. |
ferrous wheel |
Feb-05-09 11:58 PM |
#85 |
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That is why they have procedures to lower the risks to its occupants |
nadinbrzezinski |
Feb-06-09 12:12 AM |
#99 |
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I can't tell you any more than you can Google...these days all this info is public. |
ferrous wheel |
Feb-06-09 12:40 AM |
#134 |
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Those rules are not from these days |
nadinbrzezinski |
Feb-06-09 01:02 AM |
#159 |
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For those who need it spelled out (as to why a helicopter isn't acceptable): |
Oak2004 |
Feb-05-09 11:43 PM |
#73 |
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Sadly some folks don't realize we do live in such a world |
nadinbrzezinski |
Feb-05-09 11:48 PM |
#77 |
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I don't even care if he did just take it for show. |
Why Syzygy |
Feb-05-09 11:54 PM |
#83 |
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Can a helicopter fly at the altitude that AF1 can fly at? |
merh |
Feb-06-09 12:14 AM |
#101 |
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There are a variety of answers to what you are asking... |
jberryhill |
Feb-06-09 05:46 PM |
#217 |
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Believe me, I do understand. |
merh |
Feb-06-09 05:49 PM |
#218 |
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I hope you are not under the impression that a 747 taking off over a populated area |
ferrous wheel |
Feb-06-09 12:20 AM |
#108 |
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If you can name me all the times a 747 has been taken out with ordinary rifle fire |
Oak2004 |
Feb-06-09 12:37 AM |
#128 |
| -
Who said "immune"? |
jberryhill |
Feb-06-09 06:02 PM |
#219 |
| -
uuuughh. Thank you for that! nt |
Why Syzygy |
Feb-06-09 01:37 AM |
#189 |
| -
It's NOT security - it's political pomp and circumstance. |
ddeclue |
Feb-05-09 11:50 PM |
#78 |
| -
Did you know they take TWO planes? |
Why Syzygy |
Feb-05-09 11:58 PM |
#86 |
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Yo, it's DEMOCRATIC underground not OBAMA underground |
ddeclue |
Feb-06-09 12:11 AM |
#98 |
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Security is not up to the President, but his security detail |
nadinbrzezinski |
Feb-06-09 12:17 AM |
#104 |
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Umm NO... it's really up to the President... |
ddeclue |
Feb-06-09 12:20 AM |
#109 |
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Then, tell me, please, |
Tangerine LaBamba |
Feb-06-09 12:38 AM |
#129 |
| -
Under 200 miles and outside the DC beltway - by helicopter. nt |
ddeclue |
Feb-06-09 12:49 AM |
#146 |
| -
helocopter travel is very vulnerable to attack |
marimour |
Feb-06-09 01:02 AM |
#157 |
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Um NO it's not and please at least learn to spell HELICOPTER if you want to express an opinion about |
ddeclue |
Feb-06-09 01:04 AM |
#161 |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Feb-06-09 01:22 AM |
#179 |
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Um NO they don't have that ability... |
ddeclue |
Feb-06-09 01:27 AM |
#182 |
| -
Wrong again. |
marimour |
Feb-06-09 01:45 AM |
#193 |
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"WELL POSITIONED" being the operative phrase |
ddeclue |
Feb-06-09 01:50 AM |
#195 |
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i suggest you do the same. |
marimour |
Feb-06-09 02:02 AM |
#199 |
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You are really no fun at all. Plus, I think |
Why Syzygy |
Feb-06-09 01:30 AM |
#184 |
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Actually that's the most bizarre post of the night.. |
ddeclue |
Feb-06-09 01:47 AM |
#194 |
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I care what color he is |
Why Syzygy |
Feb-06-09 01:58 AM |
#198 |
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That's not possible |
Tangerine LaBamba |
Feb-06-09 01:07 AM |
#164 |
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Oh that's just diotic...a SAM? really? |
ddeclue |
Feb-06-09 01:14 AM |
#170 |
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Gee |
Tangerine LaBamba |
Feb-06-09 01:17 AM |
#174 |
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Paranoid... apparently you are... |
ddeclue |
Feb-06-09 01:30 AM |
#183 |
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Guaranteed to take out one sam |
nadinbrzezinski |
Feb-06-09 01:38 AM |
#190 |
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Um no... I'm talking about chaff dispensing systems and radar jamming systems |
ddeclue |
Feb-06-09 01:52 AM |
#196 |
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I'll take the word of a person who's been on board these birds |
nadinbrzezinski |
Feb-06-09 12:01 PM |
#214 |
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Umm no, he has input, but not full control |
nadinbrzezinski |
Feb-06-09 12:40 AM |
#135 |
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In point of fact he has full control because they work for him not the other way around. |
ddeclue |
Feb-06-09 12:52 AM |
#149 |
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Not really, but keep living in that fantasy |
nadinbrzezinski |
Feb-06-09 12:57 AM |
#153 |
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I'm NOT saying that he WOULD but rather that he CAN if he chooses to. |
ddeclue |
Feb-06-09 01:06 AM |
#162 |
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Well, I'd rather have him LISTEN to the advance teams |
nadinbrzezinski |
Feb-06-09 01:09 AM |
#166 |
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On a less than 200 mile trip - It's ALL for show... |
ddeclue |
Feb-06-09 01:16 AM |
#173 |
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Whatever you want to believe is fine |
nadinbrzezinski |
Feb-06-09 01:22 AM |
#178 |
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Tighten strings. He takes the plane. |
Why Syzygy |
Feb-06-09 12:54 AM |
#150 |
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Yeah but it's about setting an example from the top... |
ddeclue |
Feb-06-09 12:59 AM |
#155 |
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I know what they fly, hell they take part of the VIP fleet on to the air show circuit every year |
nadinbrzezinski |
Feb-05-09 11:59 PM |
#88 |
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It really has nothing to do with security and everything to do with pomp and circumstance |
ddeclue |
Feb-06-09 12:13 AM |
#100 |
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Really? |
Tangerine LaBamba |
Feb-06-09 12:39 AM |
#132 |
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Please see my OP on the subject: Presidential Transportation Options. |
ddeclue |
Feb-06-09 01:09 AM |
#165 |
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So then, |
Tangerine LaBamba |
Feb-06-09 01:15 AM |
#171 |
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They aren't going to use that medical facility on the plane |
ddeclue |
Feb-06-09 01:21 AM |
#177 |
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nuff said. self del* |
Why Syzygy |
Feb-06-09 01:35 AM |
#187 |
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Actually NO... I was NEVER a Hillary fan at all.. |
ddeclue |
Feb-06-09 01:42 AM |
#191 |
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heh . |
Why Syzygy |
Feb-06-09 01:55 AM |
#197 |
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Yes, it's all very uppity. |
Hanse |
Feb-06-09 12:01 AM |
#90 |
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I can't believe someone is actually making this an issue. |
ebdarcy |
Feb-05-09 11:52 PM |
#81 |
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This is what happens when we only give scholarships to smart people. |
Hanse |
Feb-05-09 11:58 PM |
#87 |
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This stupid |
Tangerine LaBamba |
Feb-06-09 12:40 AM |
#133 |
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This thread is unbelievable. |
firedupdem |
Feb-06-09 12:41 AM |
#137 |
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There are more important things than nitpicking over something |
nadinbrzezinski |
Feb-06-09 12:50 AM |
#148 |
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