| 115. Well you don't really know what you're talking about and I can't help you |
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if you want to believe what you want to believe. Small arms fire really isn't effective aiming wise beyond a few hundred yards - especially against high speed highly manueverable targets in varying wind conditions and range wise is pretty much useless beyond a mile. And if you are flying low to the ground (say at or under 500 feet AGL) and taking advantage of terrain features, you will be over and past any particular spot on the ground in a matter of seconds at 150 knots and almost impossible to track without highly sophisticated radar systems. So unless one of the bad guys happens to be the pilot and knows the route being taken there really isn't much "lying in wait" that is possible...  |
| -To those complaining about the President taking AF 1 on a short flight |
nadinbrzezinski |
Feb-05-09 10:22 PM |
#0 |
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I suggest the whiners take a short plane ride to kiss my ass. |
Hanse |
Feb-05-09 10:24 PM |
#1 |
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My hat's off to you sir for a memorable quote... |
JeffreyWilliamson |
Feb-05-09 11:28 PM |
#64 |
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Did I mention |
Tangerine LaBamba |
Feb-06-09 12:48 AM |
#145 |
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Where can you land a 747 close to Williamsburg other than the Norfolk Navy Base? |
Captain Hilts |
Feb-05-09 10:24 PM |
#2 |
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I've got no clue... but the crew of AF1 is the best the AF has to offer |
nadinbrzezinski |
Feb-05-09 10:25 PM |
#4 |
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Yeah. I just don't know the logistics and would like to know. Interesting! |
Captain Hilts |
Feb-05-09 10:27 PM |
#9 |
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I saw it at McCarren (Las Vegas) airport |
Why Syzygy |
Feb-05-09 10:40 PM |
#20 |
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The President landed at Newport News-Williamsburg Airport in |
Subdivisions |
Feb-05-09 10:27 PM |
#8 |
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Pat Henry "International?" How 'bout that! |
Captain Hilts |
Feb-05-09 10:28 PM |
#11 |
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Yes, the former Patrick Henry Airport. Man, that was a long time ago! |
Subdivisions |
Feb-05-09 10:34 PM |
#16 |
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A friend of mine at NOB would watch them practice touch and goes on the runway there. nt |
Captain Hilts |
Feb-06-09 09:35 AM |
#206 |
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hey!...i didn't know you were local! |
Blue_Tires |
Feb-06-09 12:17 AM |
#105 |
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I heart jet noise! My Maternal Unit is near the Amphib Base. nt |
Captain Hilts |
Feb-06-09 09:35 AM |
#205 |
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Newport News. It is right beside Richmond |
MiniMe |
Feb-06-09 10:42 AM |
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I've been driving that stretch for 20years. I would never suggest he drive it. nt |
Captain Hilts |
Feb-06-09 11:35 AM |
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Feb-05-09 10:25 PM |
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The show of the flag is an added bonus |
nadinbrzezinski |
Feb-05-09 10:26 PM |
#5 |
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A "show of political force" . is good enough for me! huuuhaa |
Why Syzygy |
Feb-05-09 10:52 PM |
#35 |
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He's also Bruce Wayne. |
Ikonoklast |
Feb-05-09 10:27 PM |
#7 |
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He's not Peter Parker??? |
TahitiNut |
Feb-05-09 10:35 PM |
#17 |
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No windshield on the plane he pilots. |
Ikonoklast |
Feb-05-09 10:51 PM |
#34 |
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The unmistakable sign of a happy biplane pilot ... |
TahitiNut |
Feb-05-09 10:57 PM |
#40 |
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You two are bad |
nadinbrzezinski |
Feb-05-09 11:10 PM |
#49 |
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Hey, I didn't start it! |
Ikonoklast |
Feb-05-09 11:23 PM |
#61 |
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surly motherly look, crossed arms, you know the look |
nadinbrzezinski |
Feb-05-09 11:25 PM |
#62 |
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Meh. Look at me, I'm shaking. |
Ikonoklast |
Feb-05-09 11:34 PM |
#70 |
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But aunties are harder to manipulate |
nadinbrzezinski |
Feb-05-09 11:41 PM |
#72 |
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LOL |
Uzybone |
Feb-05-09 10:27 PM |
#10 |
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if you're like me, you don't... |
dysfunctional press |
Feb-05-09 10:32 PM |
#13 |
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Obviously. I know obvious when I see it. I double-majored and minored in obviousity. n/t. |
Parker CA |
Feb-05-09 10:39 PM |
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I would guess it is easier to arrange secret service protection on a |
jwirr |
Feb-05-09 10:27 PM |
#6 |
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Yeah... it is |
nadinbrzezinski |
Feb-05-09 10:29 PM |
#12 |
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Plus, you have no idea what a motorcade to Williamsburg would do to |
MiniMe |
Feb-06-09 01:31 AM |
#185 |
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That's really the crux of it. When Clinton was still |
LibDemAlways |
Feb-06-09 10:32 AM |
#210 |
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I recall seeing AF1 over Silicon Valley a few times during Clinton/Gore ... |
TahitiNut |
Feb-05-09 10:33 PM |
#14 |
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Consider the alternative |
Tangerine LaBamba |
Feb-05-09 10:34 PM |
#15 |
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Isn't 150 miles doable in a helicopter? |
Brother Buzz |
Feb-05-09 10:41 PM |
#21 |
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We are not allowed to question Obama for doing what Bush would be excoriated for doing. |
ferrous wheel |
Feb-05-09 10:44 PM |
#24 |
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When did you ever excoriate Bush over taking Air Force One. |
Hanse |
Feb-05-09 10:45 PM |
#25 |
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I don't have links but I gave him major shit when he flew over NOLA after Katrina. |
ferrous wheel |
Feb-05-09 10:47 PM |
#27 |
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Can Marine One fly 150 miles? |
Brother Buzz |
Feb-05-09 10:48 PM |
#28 |
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WE DONT FUGGING CARE! |
Why Syzygy |
Feb-05-09 10:50 PM |
#32 |
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You're right. I remember when the Republicans said that very same thing. |
ferrous wheel |
Feb-05-09 11:15 PM |
#55 |
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wtf? |
Why Syzygy |
Feb-05-09 11:40 PM |
#71 |
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I wish you luck with your stock in apostrophe manufacturers! Keep on using them, |
ferrous wheel |
Feb-05-09 11:51 PM |
#80 |
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As safely as a fixed wing aircraft? NO, it can't |
jberryhill |
Feb-05-09 10:56 PM |
#39 |
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Well, that certainly explains why they never fly it over populated areas. |
ferrous wheel |
Feb-05-09 11:12 PM |
#52 |
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that's as ridiculous as comparing the odds of winning the lottery with being hit by lightning. |
ddeclue |
Feb-05-09 11:56 PM |
#84 |
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SH3 version = 540 nautical mile range, UH60 version=320 nautical mile range |
ddeclue |
Feb-05-09 11:54 PM |
#82 |
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So I suppose they can carry as many passengers as a 747. |
Hanse |
Feb-06-09 12:02 AM |
#91 |
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Do you also suppose that the US government only owns ONE helicopter? |
ddeclue |
Feb-06-09 12:07 AM |
#94 |
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Tell me oh bright one, how vulnerable is one of these birds to |
nadinbrzezinski |
Feb-06-09 12:09 AM |
#96 |
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Really NOT very... |
ddeclue |
Feb-06-09 12:15 AM |
#103 |
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Yeah I am sure |
nadinbrzezinski |
Feb-06-09 12:18 AM |
#107 |
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Well you don't really know what you're talking about and I can't help you |
ddeclue |
Feb-06-09 12:25 AM |
#115 |
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Actually I do, and so do experts at places like oh Janes |
nadinbrzezinski |
Feb-06-09 12:34 AM |
#125 |
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You really DON'T know what you're talking about. |
ddeclue |
Feb-06-09 12:38 AM |
#130 |
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So the TV program told you ALL there is to know about AF 1? |
nadinbrzezinski |
Feb-06-09 12:43 AM |
#138 |
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No the TV show didn't tell me all that I need to know but I already know |
ddeclue |
Feb-06-09 12:46 AM |
#143 |
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So the regular off the line 747-200 comes off the factory floor |
nadinbrzezinski |
Feb-06-09 12:54 AM |
#151 |
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Every one of these VIP planes from the 89AW is equipped with these specialized features. |
ddeclue |
Feb-06-09 01:02 AM |
#158 |
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I listed the specialized features, not that they are going to refuel in a 150 flight |
nadinbrzezinski |
Feb-06-09 01:06 AM |
#163 |
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They don't all have an operating room but in reality |
ddeclue |
Feb-06-09 01:11 AM |
#168 |
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That's ok, believe whatever you want to believe |
nadinbrzezinski |
Feb-06-09 01:15 AM |
#172 |
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Not to be picky, but the Air Force does not use the C-5 as an aerial refueler. |
A HERETIC I AM |
Feb-06-09 06:56 AM |
#200 |
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I'm okay with the show. About time we saw some show of the POWER inherent |
Why Syzygy |
Feb-06-09 12:50 AM |
#147 |
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In SOME circumstances YES...I would agree with you... |
ddeclue |
Feb-06-09 12:56 AM |
#152 |
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I soooo disagree. |
Why Syzygy |
Feb-06-09 01:00 AM |
#156 |
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Can't tell someone to do something that you yourself won't do... |
ddeclue |
Feb-06-09 01:03 AM |
#160 |
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So you're saying instead of one plane they should take a squadron of helicopters. |
Hanse |
Feb-06-09 12:10 AM |
#97 |
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Umm NO... I'm saying the White House Press corps can take the bus... |
ddeclue |
Feb-06-09 12:18 AM |
#106 |
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Oh, the president can take a helicopter... |
Hanse |
Feb-06-09 12:24 AM |
#112 |
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Okay, what large staff does the Pres need for a 3 hour cruise. |
ferrous wheel |
Feb-06-09 12:26 AM |
#116 |
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Well there's Gilligan.... the skipper too... the millionaire and his wife... |
ddeclue |
Feb-06-09 12:29 AM |
#120 |
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HEEHEE |
ferrous wheel |
Feb-06-09 12:33 AM |
#123 |
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! |
SammyWinstonJack |
Feb-06-09 09:26 AM |
#203 |
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Oh, I don't know. |
Hanse |
Feb-06-09 12:34 AM |
#124 |
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And he doesn't need to fly with them all by his side on a tiny trip like this... |
ddeclue |
Feb-06-09 12:41 AM |
#136 |
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Wait........ |
Tangerine LaBamba |
Feb-06-09 01:10 AM |
#167 |
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And if his time is valuable at all, the helicopte is the quickest way |
ddeclue |
Feb-06-09 01:12 AM |
#169 |
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Right. He just needs to sit |
Tangerine LaBamba |
Feb-06-09 01:18 AM |
#175 |
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Oh you are so tiresome and not making any relevant points.. |
ddeclue |
Feb-06-09 01:23 AM |
#180 |
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Um NO he doesn't need to have the entire White House staff |
ddeclue |
Feb-06-09 12:27 AM |
#117 |
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So he doesn't need that busload of people to follow his helicopter? |
Hanse |
Feb-06-09 12:32 AM |
#122 |
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NO make up YOUR mind... |
ddeclue |
Feb-06-09 12:43 AM |
#140 |
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Well, dammit, Doug Dimwit, |
Tangerine LaBamba |
Feb-06-09 01:21 AM |
#176 |
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Umm unless they've recently changed the # it's still 202-456-1414... dimwit... |
ddeclue |
Feb-06-09 01:24 AM |
#181 |
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You know |
Control-Z |
Feb-06-09 01:37 AM |
#188 |
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Of course he CAN take whoever he WANTS.. |
ddeclue |
Feb-06-09 01:44 AM |
#192 |
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Again. You know that? |
Control-Z |
Feb-06-09 12:38 PM |
#215 |
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Cue.... |
Oilwellian |
Feb-06-09 08:24 AM |
#201 |
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they always fly three identical helicopters in a marine one flight... |
1 |
Feb-06-09 12:23 AM |
#111 |
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Any time Marine One is in the air, there are at least TWO other identical choppers nearby. |
ferrous wheel |
Feb-06-09 12:28 AM |
#118 |
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It's cool to watch the fakes pull away from the one carrying the P at the last minute. nt |
Captain Hilts |
Feb-06-09 09:40 AM |
#209 |
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actually, a uh60 has a range radius of 320 miles. so effectively a range of 600+ miles... |
1 |
Feb-06-09 12:21 AM |
#110 |
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That would assume that they were going to fly it totally out of fuel |
ddeclue |
Feb-06-09 12:35 AM |
#126 |
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Ditto. Where oh where is the proof you profer? |
Why Syzygy |
Feb-05-09 10:49 PM |
#29 |
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Feb-05-09 10:50 PM |
#31 |
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Haha...you're an amusing little boy |
ferrous wheel |
Feb-05-09 11:08 PM |
#46 |
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Oh, |
Tangerine LaBamba |
Feb-05-09 11:10 PM |
#48 |
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These pretzels are making me thirsty. Expresso, please! nt |
Why Syzygy |
Feb-05-09 11:44 PM |
#74 |
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But, but, but, |
Tangerine LaBamba |
Feb-05-09 11:45 PM |
#75 |
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Ah, the chase. |
Why Syzygy |
Feb-06-09 12:03 AM |
#92 |
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It was just so stupid |
Tangerine LaBamba |
Feb-06-09 12:07 AM |
#95 |
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Oh wow. |
Why Syzygy |
Feb-06-09 12:15 AM |
#102 |
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Of course it's racial |
Tangerine LaBamba |
Feb-06-09 12:24 AM |
#113 |
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Someone posted pics earlier (of him boarding the plane) |
Why Syzygy |
Feb-06-09 12:28 AM |
#119 |
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He just landed at Andrews AFB |
Tangerine LaBamba |
Feb-06-09 12:35 AM |
#127 |
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ack! But you know what? It's a Pentagon expenditure! haaa |
Why Syzygy |
Feb-06-09 12:38 AM |
#131 |
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No, I said that.......... |
Tangerine LaBamba |
Feb-06-09 12:45 AM |
#142 |
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YQW. |
Why Syzygy |
Feb-06-09 12:58 AM |
#154 |
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I think that's terrific...he gets off the great big plane. How much it costs us |
ferrous wheel |
Feb-06-09 12:43 AM |
#139 |
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Bullshit. nt |
Why Syzygy |
Feb-06-09 12:45 AM |
#141 |
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You're still here? |
Tangerine LaBamba |
Feb-06-09 12:46 AM |
#144 |
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You're an amusing little p |
ferrous wheel |
Feb-06-09 07:06 PM |
#222 |
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Nobody has said (I believe I made the OP) that he can not. The question is, |
ferrous wheel |
Feb-06-09 12:24 AM |
#114 |
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He's not 'our guy'. He's Mr. President, Sir! especially to you. nt |
Why Syzygy |
Feb-06-09 12:31 AM |
#121 |
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You don't have to call me Sir, and the president works for me. |
ferrous wheel |
Feb-06-09 07:05 PM |
#221 |
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that's a fail. and an obvious one. |
stillcool |
Feb-05-09 11:09 PM |
#47 |
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My memo addresses Bush's LAST flight, not Obama's flight |
Brother Buzz |
Feb-05-09 11:15 PM |
#57 |
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No, there's too much |
Tangerine LaBamba |
Feb-05-09 10:49 PM |
#30 |
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The HMX squadrons use several D.C. airfields |
arcadian |
Feb-05-09 11:10 PM |
#50 |
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Mile for mile - fixed wing aircraft are safer /nt |
jberryhill |
Feb-05-09 10:55 PM |
#37 |
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Um... not so much...no.... |
ddeclue |
Feb-06-09 12:06 AM |
#93 |
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Helicopters have "too many moving parts." nt |
Captain Hilts |
Feb-06-09 09:37 AM |
#208 |
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The Jesus Nut is the one essential part that has no redundecy or backup |
Brother Buzz |
Feb-06-09 12:50 PM |
#216 |
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The Marines will train you to find out! |
Why Syzygy |
Feb-05-09 10:56 PM |
#38 |
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Try to understand this... not about fuel efficiency |
nadinbrzezinski |
Feb-05-09 11:12 PM |
#53 |
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Yeah, that's what I thought. Take about 45 minutes? |
trof |
Feb-06-09 09:19 AM |
#202 |
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Yes, I'm kinda surprised. Hell, they shoulda strapped him into a fighter from Pax River - |
Captain Hilts |
Feb-06-09 09:36 AM |
#207 |
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No, there wasn't enough room in the cramped cockpit for his cod piece and his brain |
Brother Buzz |
Feb-06-09 11:30 AM |
#212 |
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I am so happy you're not referring to me as a stupid asshole, because |
ferrous wheel |
Feb-05-09 10:43 PM |
#23 |
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How many people do you know |
Tangerine LaBamba |
Feb-05-09 10:51 PM |
#33 |
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Camp David is not farther away than Williamsburg. |
Pithlet |
Feb-05-09 11:06 PM |
#44 |
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Yes, you are right, I was wrong. The difference is about 30 miles. |
ferrous wheel |
Feb-05-09 11:33 PM |
#67 |
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The difference is greater than that. |
Pithlet |
Feb-05-09 11:45 PM |
#76 |
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No, dickwad |
Tangerine LaBamba |
Feb-05-09 11:48 PM |
# |
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"I raised this very point LOUDLY" |
jberryhill |
Feb-06-09 09:27 AM |
#204 |
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Ye asked for reference you got reference |
nadinbrzezinski |
Feb-05-09 11:14 PM |
#54 |
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I absolutely agree. What was good enough for Bush ought to be good enough for our President. |
ferrous wheel |
Feb-05-09 10:35 PM |
#18 |
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Feb-05-09 10:39 PM |
#19 |
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Heh. I know. That's an excuse now? Bush did it tooooooooo? nt |
ProgressIn2008 |
Feb-05-09 11:00 PM |
#42 |
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And Clinton, and Bush Sr, and Reagan... and Carter |
nadinbrzezinski |
Feb-05-09 11:29 PM |
#65 |
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They brought Marine One as well. |
arcadian |
Feb-05-09 10:43 PM |
#22 |
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You've GOT to be kidding! At DU? This isn't his first flight anyway. |
Why Syzygy |
Feb-05-09 10:46 PM |
#26 |
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He wasn't President then |
MiniMe |
Feb-06-09 01:35 AM |
#186 |
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Aren't there also problems with motorcades out of D.C. due to some bridges |
havocmom |
Feb-05-09 10:54 PM |
#36 |
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I never heard that about bridges......... |
Tangerine LaBamba |
Feb-05-09 11:00 PM |
#43 |
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so, since you never heard it yourself, it can't be possible? |
havocmom |
Feb-05-09 11:11 PM |
#51 |
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No, it's possible, |
Tangerine LaBamba |
Feb-05-09 11:15 PM |
#56 |
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Limousines? |
jberryhill |
Feb-06-09 06:18 PM |
#220 |
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All the Cabinet members |
Tangerine LaBamba |
Feb-06-09 07:43 PM |
#223 |
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As I said to somebody else on another thread |
nadinbrzezinski |
Feb-05-09 11:20 PM |
#60 |
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Still better than locking highways and creating traffic problems |
SergeyDovlatov |
Feb-05-09 10:57 PM |
#41 |
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VIPs cause traffic problems? NAHHHHH |
nadinbrzezinski |
Feb-05-09 11:27 PM |
#63 |
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I guess people would prefer he either.. |
stillcool |
Feb-05-09 11:07 PM |
#45 |
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To put it in perspective, an ice breaker ship can use 3500 gallons of diesel per hour. |
Gregorian |
Feb-05-09 11:16 PM |
#58 |
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That's an incredible fact. 3500 gallons!?!?! I learn something new every day at DU. |
Parker CA |
Feb-05-09 11:20 PM |
#59 |
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He should be using one of those new electric hybrid jetliners. |
Hanse |
Feb-05-09 11:34 PM |
#69 |
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If there is a FINAL tank of gasoline on all the planet Earth, I want it to be Obama's!! |
Why Syzygy |
Feb-05-09 11:50 PM |
#79 |
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That is very interesting. Bizarre, but interesting. |
ferrous wheel |
Feb-06-09 12:00 AM |
#89 |
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OFFS. Marine 1 is NOT AS SAFE as AF1. |
Shakespeare |
Feb-05-09 11:32 PM |
#66 |
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I know that, you know that |
nadinbrzezinski |
Feb-05-09 11:33 PM |
#68 |
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Bullshit. You don't know any such thing and neither does anyone else. |
ferrous wheel |
Feb-05-09 11:58 PM |
#85 |
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That is why they have procedures to lower the risks to its occupants |
nadinbrzezinski |
Feb-06-09 12:12 AM |
#99 |
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I can't tell you any more than you can Google...these days all this info is public. |
ferrous wheel |
Feb-06-09 12:40 AM |
#134 |
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Those rules are not from these days |
nadinbrzezinski |
Feb-06-09 01:02 AM |
#159 |
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For those who need it spelled out (as to why a helicopter isn't acceptable): |
Oak2004 |
Feb-05-09 11:43 PM |
#73 |
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Sadly some folks don't realize we do live in such a world |
nadinbrzezinski |
Feb-05-09 11:48 PM |
#77 |
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I don't even care if he did just take it for show. |
Why Syzygy |
Feb-05-09 11:54 PM |
#83 |
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Can a helicopter fly at the altitude that AF1 can fly at? |
merh |
Feb-06-09 12:14 AM |
#101 |
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There are a variety of answers to what you are asking... |
jberryhill |
Feb-06-09 05:46 PM |
#217 |
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Believe me, I do understand. |
merh |
Feb-06-09 05:49 PM |
#218 |
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I hope you are not under the impression that a 747 taking off over a populated area |
ferrous wheel |
Feb-06-09 12:20 AM |
#108 |
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If you can name me all the times a 747 has been taken out with ordinary rifle fire |
Oak2004 |
Feb-06-09 12:37 AM |
#128 |
| -
Who said "immune"? |
jberryhill |
Feb-06-09 06:02 PM |
#219 |
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uuuughh. Thank you for that! nt |
Why Syzygy |
Feb-06-09 01:37 AM |
#189 |
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It's NOT security - it's political pomp and circumstance. |
ddeclue |
Feb-05-09 11:50 PM |
#78 |
| -
Did you know they take TWO planes? |
Why Syzygy |
Feb-05-09 11:58 PM |
#86 |
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Yo, it's DEMOCRATIC underground not OBAMA underground |
ddeclue |
Feb-06-09 12:11 AM |
#98 |
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Security is not up to the President, but his security detail |
nadinbrzezinski |
Feb-06-09 12:17 AM |
#104 |
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Umm NO... it's really up to the President... |
ddeclue |
Feb-06-09 12:20 AM |
#109 |
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Then, tell me, please, |
Tangerine LaBamba |
Feb-06-09 12:38 AM |
#129 |
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Under 200 miles and outside the DC beltway - by helicopter. nt |
ddeclue |
Feb-06-09 12:49 AM |
#146 |
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helocopter travel is very vulnerable to attack |
marimour |
Feb-06-09 01:02 AM |
#157 |
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Um NO it's not and please at least learn to spell HELICOPTER if you want to express an opinion about |
ddeclue |
Feb-06-09 01:04 AM |
#161 |
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Feb-06-09 01:22 AM |
#179 |
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Um NO they don't have that ability... |
ddeclue |
Feb-06-09 01:27 AM |
#182 |
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Wrong again. |
marimour |
Feb-06-09 01:45 AM |
#193 |
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"WELL POSITIONED" being the operative phrase |
ddeclue |
Feb-06-09 01:50 AM |
#195 |
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i suggest you do the same. |
marimour |
Feb-06-09 02:02 AM |
#199 |
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You are really no fun at all. Plus, I think |
Why Syzygy |
Feb-06-09 01:30 AM |
#184 |
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Actually that's the most bizarre post of the night.. |
ddeclue |
Feb-06-09 01:47 AM |
#194 |
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I care what color he is |
Why Syzygy |
Feb-06-09 01:58 AM |
#198 |
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That's not possible |
Tangerine LaBamba |
Feb-06-09 01:07 AM |
#164 |
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Oh that's just diotic...a SAM? really? |
ddeclue |
Feb-06-09 01:14 AM |
#170 |
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Gee |
Tangerine LaBamba |
Feb-06-09 01:17 AM |
#174 |
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Paranoid... apparently you are... |
ddeclue |
Feb-06-09 01:30 AM |
#183 |
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Guaranteed to take out one sam |
nadinbrzezinski |
Feb-06-09 01:38 AM |
#190 |
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Um no... I'm talking about chaff dispensing systems and radar jamming systems |
ddeclue |
Feb-06-09 01:52 AM |
#196 |
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I'll take the word of a person who's been on board these birds |
nadinbrzezinski |
Feb-06-09 12:01 PM |
#214 |
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Umm no, he has input, but not full control |
nadinbrzezinski |
Feb-06-09 12:40 AM |
#135 |
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In point of fact he has full control because they work for him not the other way around. |
ddeclue |
Feb-06-09 12:52 AM |
#149 |
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Not really, but keep living in that fantasy |
nadinbrzezinski |
Feb-06-09 12:57 AM |
#153 |
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I'm NOT saying that he WOULD but rather that he CAN if he chooses to. |
ddeclue |
Feb-06-09 01:06 AM |
#162 |
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Well, I'd rather have him LISTEN to the advance teams |
nadinbrzezinski |
Feb-06-09 01:09 AM |
#166 |
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On a less than 200 mile trip - It's ALL for show... |
ddeclue |
Feb-06-09 01:16 AM |
#173 |
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Whatever you want to believe is fine |
nadinbrzezinski |
Feb-06-09 01:22 AM |
#178 |
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Tighten strings. He takes the plane. |
Why Syzygy |
Feb-06-09 12:54 AM |
#150 |
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Yeah but it's about setting an example from the top... |
ddeclue |
Feb-06-09 12:59 AM |
#155 |
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I know what they fly, hell they take part of the VIP fleet on to the air show circuit every year |
nadinbrzezinski |
Feb-05-09 11:59 PM |
#88 |
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It really has nothing to do with security and everything to do with pomp and circumstance |
ddeclue |
Feb-06-09 12:13 AM |
#100 |
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Really? |
Tangerine LaBamba |
Feb-06-09 12:39 AM |
#132 |
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Please see my OP on the subject: Presidential Transportation Options. |
ddeclue |
Feb-06-09 01:09 AM |
#165 |
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So then, |
Tangerine LaBamba |
Feb-06-09 01:15 AM |
#171 |
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They aren't going to use that medical facility on the plane |
ddeclue |
Feb-06-09 01:21 AM |
#177 |
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nuff said. self del* |
Why Syzygy |
Feb-06-09 01:35 AM |
#187 |
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Actually NO... I was NEVER a Hillary fan at all.. |
ddeclue |
Feb-06-09 01:42 AM |
#191 |
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heh . |
Why Syzygy |
Feb-06-09 01:55 AM |
#197 |
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Yes, it's all very uppity. |
Hanse |
Feb-06-09 12:01 AM |
#90 |
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I can't believe someone is actually making this an issue. |
ebdarcy |
Feb-05-09 11:52 PM |
#81 |
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This is what happens when we only give scholarships to smart people. |
Hanse |
Feb-05-09 11:58 PM |
#87 |
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This stupid |
Tangerine LaBamba |
Feb-06-09 12:40 AM |
#133 |
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This thread is unbelievable. |
firedupdem |
Feb-06-09 12:41 AM |
#137 |
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There are more important things than nitpicking over something |
nadinbrzezinski |
Feb-06-09 12:50 AM |
#148 |
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