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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 12:12 AM
Response to Reply #85
99. That is why they have procedures to lower the risks to its occupants

Look, CNN broke all kinds of safety protocols when they REVEALED that little bit in 9.11

But that's the way it is.

Look, you claim to work in the industry... care to tell me what happens when any of these birds flies OVER any airspace? Hell what happens when AF 1 lands in any airport in the world?

Don't worry, if you don't know, nobody will blame you fer it.
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  -To those complaining about the President taking AF 1 on a short flight nadinbrzezinski  Feb-05-09 10:22 PM   #0 
  - I suggest the whiners take a short plane ride to kiss my ass.  Hanse   Feb-05-09 10:24 PM   #1 
  - My hat's off to you sir for a memorable quote...  JeffreyWilliamson   Feb-05-09 11:28 PM   #64 
  - Did I mention  Tangerine LaBamba   Feb-06-09 12:48 AM   #145 
  - Where can you land a 747 close to Williamsburg other than the Norfolk Navy Base?  Captain Hilts   Feb-05-09 10:24 PM   #2 
  - I've got no clue... but the crew of AF1 is the best the AF has to offer  nadinbrzezinski   Feb-05-09 10:25 PM   #4 
  - Yeah. I just don't know the logistics and would like to know. Interesting!  Captain Hilts   Feb-05-09 10:27 PM   #9 
     - I saw it at McCarren (Las Vegas) airport  Why Syzygy   Feb-05-09 10:40 PM   #20 
  - The President landed at Newport News-Williamsburg Airport in  Subdivisions   Feb-05-09 10:27 PM   #8 
  - Pat Henry "International?" How 'bout that!  Captain Hilts   Feb-05-09 10:28 PM   #11 
  - Yes, the former Patrick Henry Airport. Man, that was a long time ago!  Subdivisions   Feb-05-09 10:34 PM   #16 
     - A friend of mine at NOB would watch them practice touch and goes on the runway there. nt  Captain Hilts   Feb-06-09 09:35 AM   #206 
  - hey!...i didn't know you were local!  Blue_Tires   Feb-06-09 12:17 AM   #105 
     - I heart jet noise! My Maternal Unit is near the Amphib Base. nt  Captain Hilts   Feb-06-09 09:35 AM   #205 
  - Newport News. It is right beside Richmond  MiniMe   Feb-06-09 10:42 AM   #211 
     - I've been driving that stretch for 20years. I would never suggest he drive it. nt  Captain Hilts   Feb-06-09 11:35 AM   #213 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Feb-05-09 10:25 PM   #3 
  - The show of the flag is an added bonus  nadinbrzezinski   Feb-05-09 10:26 PM   #5 
  - A "show of political force" . is good enough for me! huuuhaa  Why Syzygy   Feb-05-09 10:52 PM   #35 
  - He's also Bruce Wayne.  Ikonoklast   Feb-05-09 10:27 PM   #7 
  - He's not Peter Parker???  TahitiNut   Feb-05-09 10:35 PM   #17 
     - No windshield on the plane he pilots.  Ikonoklast   Feb-05-09 10:51 PM   #34 
        - The unmistakable sign of a happy biplane pilot ...  TahitiNut   Feb-05-09 10:57 PM   #40 
           - You two are bad  nadinbrzezinski   Feb-05-09 11:10 PM   #49 
              - Hey, I didn't start it!  Ikonoklast   Feb-05-09 11:23 PM   #61 
                 - surly motherly look, crossed arms, you know the look  nadinbrzezinski   Feb-05-09 11:25 PM   #62 
                    - Meh. Look at me, I'm shaking.  Ikonoklast   Feb-05-09 11:34 PM   #70 
                       - But aunties are harder to manipulate  nadinbrzezinski   Feb-05-09 11:41 PM   #72 
  - LOL  Uzybone   Feb-05-09 10:27 PM   #10 
  - if you're like me, you don't...  dysfunctional press   Feb-05-09 10:32 PM   #13 
  - Obviously. I know obvious when I see it. I double-majored and minored in obviousity. n/t.  Parker CA   Feb-05-09 10:39 PM   # 
  - I would guess it is easier to arrange secret service protection on a  jwirr   Feb-05-09 10:27 PM   #6 
  - Yeah... it is  nadinbrzezinski   Feb-05-09 10:29 PM   #12 
  - Plus, you have no idea what a motorcade to Williamsburg would do to  MiniMe   Feb-06-09 01:31 AM   #185 
     - That's really the crux of it. When Clinton was still  LibDemAlways   Feb-06-09 10:32 AM   #210 
  - I recall seeing AF1 over Silicon Valley a few times during Clinton/Gore ...  TahitiNut   Feb-05-09 10:33 PM   #14 
  - Consider the alternative  Tangerine LaBamba   Feb-05-09 10:34 PM   #15 
  - Isn't 150 miles doable in a helicopter?  Brother Buzz   Feb-05-09 10:41 PM   #21 
  - We are not allowed to question Obama for doing what Bush would be excoriated for doing.  ferrous wheel   Feb-05-09 10:44 PM   #24 
  - When did you ever excoriate Bush over taking Air Force One.  Hanse   Feb-05-09 10:45 PM   #25 
  - I don't have links but I gave him major shit when he flew over NOLA after Katrina.  ferrous wheel   Feb-05-09 10:47 PM   #27 
  - Can Marine One fly 150 miles?  Brother Buzz   Feb-05-09 10:48 PM   #28 
  - WE DONT FUGGING CARE!  Why Syzygy   Feb-05-09 10:50 PM   #32 
  - You're right. I remember when the Republicans said that very same thing.  ferrous wheel   Feb-05-09 11:15 PM   #55 
     - wtf?  Why Syzygy   Feb-05-09 11:40 PM   #71 
        - I wish you luck with your stock in apostrophe manufacturers! Keep on using them,  ferrous wheel   Feb-05-09 11:51 PM   #80 
  - As safely as a fixed wing aircraft? NO, it can't  jberryhill   Feb-05-09 10:56 PM   #39 
  - Well, that certainly explains why they never fly it over populated areas.  ferrous wheel   Feb-05-09 11:12 PM   #52 
  - that's as ridiculous as comparing the odds of winning the lottery with being hit by lightning.  ddeclue   Feb-05-09 11:56 PM   #84 
  - SH3 version = 540 nautical mile range, UH60 version=320 nautical mile range  ddeclue   Feb-05-09 11:54 PM   #82 
     - So I suppose they can carry as many passengers as a 747.  Hanse   Feb-06-09 12:02 AM   #91 
     - Do you also suppose that the US government only owns ONE helicopter?  ddeclue   Feb-06-09 12:07 AM   #94 
        - Tell me oh bright one, how vulnerable is one of these birds to  nadinbrzezinski   Feb-06-09 12:09 AM   #96 
        - Really NOT very...  ddeclue   Feb-06-09 12:15 AM   #103 
           - Yeah I am sure  nadinbrzezinski   Feb-06-09 12:18 AM   #107 
              - Well you don't really know what you're talking about and I can't help you  ddeclue   Feb-06-09 12:25 AM   #115 
                 - Actually I do, and so do experts at places like oh Janes  nadinbrzezinski   Feb-06-09 12:34 AM   #125 
                    - You really DON'T know what you're talking about.  ddeclue   Feb-06-09 12:38 AM   #130 
                       - So the TV program told you ALL there is to know about AF 1?  nadinbrzezinski   Feb-06-09 12:43 AM   #138 
                       - No the TV show didn't tell me all that I need to know but I already know  ddeclue   Feb-06-09 12:46 AM   #143 
                          - So the regular off the line 747-200 comes off the factory floor  nadinbrzezinski   Feb-06-09 12:54 AM   #151 
                             - Every one of these VIP planes from the 89AW is equipped with these specialized features.  ddeclue   Feb-06-09 01:02 AM   #158 
                             - I listed the specialized features, not that they are going to refuel in a 150 flight  nadinbrzezinski   Feb-06-09 01:06 AM   #163 
                                - They don't all have an operating room but in reality  ddeclue   Feb-06-09 01:11 AM   #168 
                                - That's ok, believe whatever you want to believe  nadinbrzezinski   Feb-06-09 01:15 AM   #172 
                             - Not to be picky, but the Air Force does not use the C-5 as an aerial refueler.  A HERETIC I AM   Feb-06-09 06:56 AM   #200 
                       - I'm okay with the show. About time we saw some show of the POWER inherent  Why Syzygy   Feb-06-09 12:50 AM   #147 
                          - In SOME circumstances YES...I would agree with you...  ddeclue   Feb-06-09 12:56 AM   #152 
                             - I soooo disagree.  Why Syzygy   Feb-06-09 01:00 AM   #156 
                                - Can't tell someone to do something that you yourself won't do...  ddeclue   Feb-06-09 01:03 AM   #160 
        - So you're saying instead of one plane they should take a squadron of helicopters.  Hanse   Feb-06-09 12:10 AM   #97 
           - Umm NO... I'm saying the White House Press corps can take the bus...  ddeclue   Feb-06-09 12:18 AM   #106 
           - Oh, the president can take a helicopter...  Hanse   Feb-06-09 12:24 AM   #112 
           - Okay, what large staff does the Pres need for a 3 hour cruise.  ferrous wheel   Feb-06-09 12:26 AM   #116 
           - Well there's Gilligan.... the skipper too... the millionaire and his wife...  ddeclue   Feb-06-09 12:29 AM   #120 
           - HEEHEE  ferrous wheel   Feb-06-09 12:33 AM   #123 
           - !  SammyWinstonJack   Feb-06-09 09:26 AM   #203 
           - Oh, I don't know.  Hanse   Feb-06-09 12:34 AM   #124 
              - And he doesn't need to fly with them all by his side on a tiny trip like this...  ddeclue   Feb-06-09 12:41 AM   #136 
              - Wait........  Tangerine LaBamba   Feb-06-09 01:10 AM   #167 
                 - And if his time is valuable at all, the helicopte is the quickest way  ddeclue   Feb-06-09 01:12 AM   #169 
                    - Right. He just needs to sit  Tangerine LaBamba   Feb-06-09 01:18 AM   #175 
                       - Oh you are so tiresome and not making any relevant points..  ddeclue   Feb-06-09 01:23 AM   #180 
           - Um NO he doesn't need to have the entire White House staff  ddeclue   Feb-06-09 12:27 AM   #117 
              - So he doesn't need that busload of people to follow his helicopter?  Hanse   Feb-06-09 12:32 AM   #122 
                 - NO make up YOUR mind...  ddeclue   Feb-06-09 12:43 AM   #140 
                    - Well, dammit, Doug Dimwit,  Tangerine LaBamba   Feb-06-09 01:21 AM   #176 
                    - Umm unless they've recently changed the # it's still 202-456-1414... dimwit...  ddeclue   Feb-06-09 01:24 AM   #181 
                    - You know  Control-Z   Feb-06-09 01:37 AM   #188 
                       - Of course he CAN take whoever he WANTS..  ddeclue   Feb-06-09 01:44 AM   #192 
                          - Again. You know that?  Control-Z   Feb-06-09 12:38 PM   #215 
           - Cue....  Oilwellian   Feb-06-09 08:24 AM   #201 
           - they always fly three identical helicopters in a marine one flight...  1   Feb-06-09 12:23 AM   #111 
           - Any time Marine One is in the air, there are at least TWO other identical choppers nearby.  ferrous wheel   Feb-06-09 12:28 AM   #118 
              - It's cool to watch the fakes pull away from the one carrying the P at the last minute. nt  Captain Hilts   Feb-06-09 09:40 AM   #209 
     - actually, a uh60 has a range radius of 320 miles. so effectively a range of 600+ miles...  1   Feb-06-09 12:21 AM   #110 
        - That would assume that they were going to fly it totally out of fuel  ddeclue   Feb-06-09 12:35 AM   #126 
  - Ditto. Where oh where is the proof you profer?  Why Syzygy   Feb-05-09 10:49 PM   #29 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Feb-05-09 10:50 PM   #31 
  -'re an amusing little boy  ferrous wheel   Feb-05-09 11:08 PM   #46 
     - Oh,  Tangerine LaBamba   Feb-05-09 11:10 PM   #48 
        - These pretzels are making me thirsty. Expresso, please! nt  Why Syzygy   Feb-05-09 11:44 PM   #74 
           - But, but, but,  Tangerine LaBamba   Feb-05-09 11:45 PM   #75 
              - Ah, the chase.  Why Syzygy   Feb-06-09 12:03 AM   #92 
                 - It was just so stupid  Tangerine LaBamba   Feb-06-09 12:07 AM   #95 
                 - Oh wow.  Why Syzygy   Feb-06-09 12:15 AM   #102 
                    - Of course it's racial  Tangerine LaBamba   Feb-06-09 12:24 AM   #113 
                       - Someone posted pics earlier (of him boarding the plane)  Why Syzygy   Feb-06-09 12:28 AM   #119 
                          - He just landed at Andrews AFB  Tangerine LaBamba   Feb-06-09 12:35 AM   #127 
                             - ack! But you know what? It's a Pentagon expenditure! haaa  Why Syzygy   Feb-06-09 12:38 AM   #131 
                             - No, I said that..........  Tangerine LaBamba   Feb-06-09 12:45 AM   #142 
                                - YQW.  Why Syzygy   Feb-06-09 12:58 AM   #154 
                             - I think that's terrific...he gets off the great big plane. How much it costs us  ferrous wheel   Feb-06-09 12:43 AM   #139 
                                - Bullshit. nt  Why Syzygy   Feb-06-09 12:45 AM   #141 
                                - You're still here?  Tangerine LaBamba   Feb-06-09 12:46 AM   #144 
                                   - You're an amusing little p  ferrous wheel   Feb-06-09 07:06 PM   #222 
                 - Nobody has said (I believe I made the OP) that he can not. The question is,  ferrous wheel   Feb-06-09 12:24 AM   #114 
                    - He's not 'our guy'. He's Mr. President, Sir! especially to you. nt  Why Syzygy   Feb-06-09 12:31 AM   #121 
                       - You don't have to call me Sir, and the president works for me.  ferrous wheel   Feb-06-09 07:05 PM   #221 
  - that's a fail. and an obvious one.  stillcool   Feb-05-09 11:09 PM   #47 
  - My memo addresses Bush's LAST flight, not Obama's flight  Brother Buzz   Feb-05-09 11:15 PM   #57 
  - No, there's too much  Tangerine LaBamba   Feb-05-09 10:49 PM   #30 
  - The HMX squadrons use several D.C. airfields  arcadian   Feb-05-09 11:10 PM   #50 
  - Mile for mile - fixed wing aircraft are safer /nt  jberryhill   Feb-05-09 10:55 PM   #37 
  - Um... not so  ddeclue   Feb-06-09 12:06 AM   #93 
  - Helicopters have "too many moving parts." nt  Captain Hilts   Feb-06-09 09:37 AM   #208 
     - The Jesus Nut is the one essential part that has no redundecy or backup  Brother Buzz   Feb-06-09 12:50 PM   #216 
  - The Marines will train you to find out!  Why Syzygy   Feb-05-09 10:56 PM   #38 
  - Try to understand this... not about fuel efficiency  nadinbrzezinski   Feb-05-09 11:12 PM   #53 
  - Yeah, that's what I thought. Take about 45 minutes?  trof   Feb-06-09 09:19 AM   #202 
  - Yes, I'm kinda surprised. Hell, they shoulda strapped him into a fighter from Pax River -  Captain Hilts   Feb-06-09 09:36 AM   #207 
     - No, there wasn't enough room in the cramped cockpit for his cod piece and his brain  Brother Buzz   Feb-06-09 11:30 AM   #212 
  - I am so happy you're not referring to me as a stupid asshole, because  ferrous wheel   Feb-05-09 10:43 PM   #23 
     - How many people do you know  Tangerine LaBamba   Feb-05-09 10:51 PM   #33 
     - Camp David is not farther away than Williamsburg.  Pithlet   Feb-05-09 11:06 PM   #44 
     - Yes, you are right, I was wrong. The difference is about 30 miles.  ferrous wheel   Feb-05-09 11:33 PM   #67 
        - The difference is greater than that.  Pithlet   Feb-05-09 11:45 PM   #76 
        - No, dickwad  Tangerine LaBamba   Feb-05-09 11:48 PM   # 
        - "I raised this very point LOUDLY"  jberryhill   Feb-06-09 09:27 AM   #204 
     - Ye asked for reference you got reference  nadinbrzezinski   Feb-05-09 11:14 PM   #54 
  - I absolutely agree. What was good enough for Bush ought to be good enough for our President.  ferrous wheel   Feb-05-09 10:35 PM   #18 
  - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Feb-05-09 10:39 PM   #19 
  - Heh. I know. That's an excuse now? Bush did it tooooooooo? nt  ProgressIn2008   Feb-05-09 11:00 PM   #42 
     - And Clinton, and Bush Sr, and Reagan... and Carter  nadinbrzezinski   Feb-05-09 11:29 PM   #65 
  - They brought Marine One as well.  arcadian   Feb-05-09 10:43 PM   #22 
  - You've GOT to be kidding! At DU? This isn't his first flight anyway.  Why Syzygy   Feb-05-09 10:46 PM   #26 
  - He wasn't President then  MiniMe   Feb-06-09 01:35 AM   #186 
  - Aren't there also problems with motorcades out of D.C. due to some bridges  havocmom   Feb-05-09 10:54 PM   #36 
  - I never heard that about bridges.........  Tangerine LaBamba   Feb-05-09 11:00 PM   #43 
  - so, since you never heard it yourself, it can't be possible?  havocmom   Feb-05-09 11:11 PM   #51 
     - No, it's possible,  Tangerine LaBamba   Feb-05-09 11:15 PM   #56 
        - Limousines?  jberryhill   Feb-06-09 06:18 PM   #220 
           - All the Cabinet members  Tangerine LaBamba   Feb-06-09 07:43 PM   #223 
  - As I said to somebody else on another thread  nadinbrzezinski   Feb-05-09 11:20 PM   #60 
  - Still better than locking highways and creating traffic problems  SergeyDovlatov   Feb-05-09 10:57 PM   #41 
  - VIPs cause traffic problems? NAHHHHH  nadinbrzezinski   Feb-05-09 11:27 PM   #63 
  - I guess people would prefer he either..  stillcool   Feb-05-09 11:07 PM   #45 
  - To put it in perspective, an ice breaker ship can use 3500 gallons of diesel per hour.  Gregorian   Feb-05-09 11:16 PM   #58 
  - That's an incredible fact. 3500 gallons!?!?! I learn something new every day at DU.  Parker CA   Feb-05-09 11:20 PM   #59 
  - He should be using one of those new electric hybrid jetliners.  Hanse   Feb-05-09 11:34 PM   #69 
  - If there is a FINAL tank of gasoline on all the planet Earth, I want it to be Obama's!!  Why Syzygy   Feb-05-09 11:50 PM   #79 
     - That is very interesting. Bizarre, but interesting.  ferrous wheel   Feb-06-09 12:00 AM   #89 
  - OFFS. Marine 1 is NOT AS SAFE as AF1.  Shakespeare   Feb-05-09 11:32 PM   #66 
  - I know that, you know that  nadinbrzezinski   Feb-05-09 11:33 PM   #68 
     - Bullshit. You don't know any such thing and neither does anyone else.  ferrous wheel   Feb-05-09 11:58 PM   #85 
        - That is why they have procedures to lower the risks to its occupants  nadinbrzezinski   Feb-06-09 12:12 AM   #99 
           - I can't tell you any more than you can Google...these days all this info is public.  ferrous wheel   Feb-06-09 12:40 AM   #134 
              - Those rules are not from these days  nadinbrzezinski   Feb-06-09 01:02 AM   #159 
  - For those who need it spelled out (as to why a helicopter isn't acceptable):  Oak2004   Feb-05-09 11:43 PM   #73 
  - Sadly some folks don't realize we do live in such a world  nadinbrzezinski   Feb-05-09 11:48 PM   #77 
  - I don't even care if he did just take it for show.  Why Syzygy   Feb-05-09 11:54 PM   #83 
  - Can a helicopter fly at the altitude that AF1 can fly at?  merh   Feb-06-09 12:14 AM   #101 
  - There are a variety of answers to what you are asking...  jberryhill   Feb-06-09 05:46 PM   #217 
     - Believe me, I do understand.  merh   Feb-06-09 05:49 PM   #218 
  - I hope you are not under the impression that a 747 taking off over a populated area  ferrous wheel   Feb-06-09 12:20 AM   #108 
  - If you can name me all the times a 747 has been taken out with ordinary rifle fire  Oak2004   Feb-06-09 12:37 AM   #128 
  - Who said "immune"?  jberryhill   Feb-06-09 06:02 PM   #219 
  - uuuughh. Thank you for that! nt  Why Syzygy   Feb-06-09 01:37 AM   #189 
  - It's NOT security - it's political pomp and circumstance.  ddeclue   Feb-05-09 11:50 PM   #78 
  - Did you know they take TWO planes?  Why Syzygy   Feb-05-09 11:58 PM   #86 
  - Yo, it's DEMOCRATIC underground not OBAMA underground  ddeclue   Feb-06-09 12:11 AM   #98 
     - Security is not up to the President, but his security detail  nadinbrzezinski   Feb-06-09 12:17 AM   #104 
     - Umm NO... it's really up to the President...  ddeclue   Feb-06-09 12:20 AM   #109 
        - Then, tell me, please,  Tangerine LaBamba   Feb-06-09 12:38 AM   #129 
        - Under 200 miles and outside the DC beltway - by helicopter. nt  ddeclue   Feb-06-09 12:49 AM   #146 
           - helocopter travel is very vulnerable to attack  marimour   Feb-06-09 01:02 AM   #157 
           - Um NO it's not and please at least learn to spell HELICOPTER if you want to express an opinion about  ddeclue   Feb-06-09 01:04 AM   #161 
              - Deleted message  Name removed   Feb-06-09 01:22 AM   #179 
              - Um NO they don't have that ability...  ddeclue   Feb-06-09 01:27 AM   #182 
                 - Wrong again.  marimour   Feb-06-09 01:45 AM   #193 
                    - "WELL POSITIONED" being the operative phrase  ddeclue   Feb-06-09 01:50 AM   #195 
                       - i suggest you do the same.  marimour   Feb-06-09 02:02 AM   #199 
              - You are really no fun at all. Plus, I think  Why Syzygy   Feb-06-09 01:30 AM   #184 
                 - Actually that's the most bizarre post of the night..  ddeclue   Feb-06-09 01:47 AM   #194 
                    - I care what color he is  Why Syzygy   Feb-06-09 01:58 AM   #198 
           - That's not possible  Tangerine LaBamba   Feb-06-09 01:07 AM   #164 
              - Oh that's just diotic...a SAM? really?  ddeclue   Feb-06-09 01:14 AM   #170 
                 - Gee  Tangerine LaBamba   Feb-06-09 01:17 AM   #174 
                 - Paranoid... apparently you are...  ddeclue   Feb-06-09 01:30 AM   #183 
                 - Guaranteed to take out one sam  nadinbrzezinski   Feb-06-09 01:38 AM   #190 
                    - Um no... I'm talking about chaff dispensing systems and radar jamming systems  ddeclue   Feb-06-09 01:52 AM   #196 
                       - I'll take the word of a person who's been on board these birds  nadinbrzezinski   Feb-06-09 12:01 PM   #214 
        - Umm no, he has input, but not full control  nadinbrzezinski   Feb-06-09 12:40 AM   #135 
           - In point of fact he has full control because they work for him not the other way around.  ddeclue   Feb-06-09 12:52 AM   #149 
              - Not really, but keep living in that fantasy  nadinbrzezinski   Feb-06-09 12:57 AM   #153 
                 - I'm NOT saying that he WOULD but rather that he CAN if he chooses to.  ddeclue   Feb-06-09 01:06 AM   #162 
                    - Well, I'd rather have him LISTEN to the advance teams  nadinbrzezinski   Feb-06-09 01:09 AM   #166 
                       - On a less than 200 mile trip - It's ALL for show...  ddeclue   Feb-06-09 01:16 AM   #173 
                          - Whatever you want to believe is fine  nadinbrzezinski   Feb-06-09 01:22 AM   #178 
     - Tighten strings. He takes the plane.  Why Syzygy   Feb-06-09 12:54 AM   #150 
        - Yeah but it's about setting an example from the top...  ddeclue   Feb-06-09 12:59 AM   #155 
  - I know what they fly, hell they take part of the VIP fleet on to the air show circuit every year  nadinbrzezinski   Feb-05-09 11:59 PM   #88 
  - It really has nothing to do with security and everything to do with pomp and circumstance  ddeclue   Feb-06-09 12:13 AM   #100 
     - Really?  Tangerine LaBamba   Feb-06-09 12:39 AM   #132 
        - Please see my OP on the subject: Presidential Transportation Options.  ddeclue   Feb-06-09 01:09 AM   #165 
           - So then,  Tangerine LaBamba   Feb-06-09 01:15 AM   #171 
              - They aren't going to use that medical facility on the plane  ddeclue   Feb-06-09 01:21 AM   #177 
                 - nuff said. self del*  Why Syzygy   Feb-06-09 01:35 AM   #187 
                    - Actually NO... I was NEVER a Hillary fan at all..  ddeclue   Feb-06-09 01:42 AM   #191 
                       - heh .  Why Syzygy   Feb-06-09 01:55 AM   #197 
  - Yes, it's all very uppity.  Hanse   Feb-06-09 12:01 AM   #90 
  - I can't believe someone is actually making this an issue.  ebdarcy   Feb-05-09 11:52 PM   #81 
  - This is what happens when we only give scholarships to smart people.  Hanse   Feb-05-09 11:58 PM   #87 
  - This stupid  Tangerine LaBamba   Feb-06-09 12:40 AM   #133 
  - This thread is unbelievable.  firedupdem   Feb-06-09 12:41 AM   #137 
     - There are more important things than nitpicking over something  nadinbrzezinski   Feb-06-09 12:50 AM   #148 

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