Fire_Medic_Dave
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Fri Feb-06-09 10:13 AM
Response to Reply #8 |
| 76. What about people like the BTK killer? Don't they also deserve it. |
| -Do you support the death penalty? |
ZombieHorde |
Feb-05-09 08:33 PM |
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No. |
Horse with no Name |
Feb-05-09 08:34 PM |
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Here is why... |
ZombieHorde |
Feb-05-09 08:35 PM |
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There is a difference in the use of the death penalty |
Horse with no Name |
Feb-05-09 08:38 PM |
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One has a trial. |
ZombieHorde |
Feb-05-09 08:39 PM |
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How do you feel about a human using deadly force to protect a human? |
JonLP24 |
Feb-07-09 01:42 PM |
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"human using deadly force to protect a human" |
ZombieHorde |
Feb-07-09 01:55 PM |
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I don't understand |
JonLP24 |
Feb-07-09 02:04 PM |
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I value humans more than non-humans, and I don't like mosquitos. |
ZombieHorde |
Feb-07-09 02:49 PM |
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Ok so what is your point about equating the death penalty to |
JonLP24 |
Feb-07-09 04:16 PM |
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The death penalty vs. killing for defense. |
ZombieHorde |
Feb-07-09 04:41 PM |
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I also heard Elisabeth Hasselbeck |
JonLP24 |
Feb-07-09 04:53 PM |
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"the fetus is apart of the woman's body so it is her choice" |
ZombieHorde |
Feb-07-09 05:03 PM |
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Yes everyone has their own values and it's not the same as others |
JonLP24 |
Feb-07-09 05:11 PM |
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"I don't know who Hasselbeck ... is." Damn, do I envy you! |
11 Bravo |
Feb-08-09 12:57 PM |
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no. |
ulysses |
Feb-05-09 08:34 PM |
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No. |
EFerrari |
Feb-05-09 08:34 PM |
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No |
wuushew |
Feb-05-09 08:35 PM |
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I see where these 2 polls are going to collide..nt |
Muttocracy |
Feb-05-09 08:36 PM |
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Yes, they will collide. DU is fun. |
ZombieHorde |
Feb-05-09 08:42 PM |
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I'll admit you made me stop and think hard. nt |
Muttocracy |
Feb-05-09 08:48 PM |
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That is one of the best complements I have ever received. Thank you. nt |
ZombieHorde |
Feb-05-09 08:52 PM |
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You're welcome. I have a hard time with the death penalty. |
Muttocracy |
Feb-05-09 09:00 PM |
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Don't forget the racial disproportion in this country |
JonLP24 |
Feb-07-09 01:45 PM |
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Collide? You mean would we approve if we were to discover that the inmate smokes? n/t |
lumberjack_jeff |
Feb-05-09 10:01 PM |
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I don't think any human has the right to take another human life, other than.... |
LakeSamish706 |
Feb-05-09 08:36 PM |
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Agreed, and in the rare justifiable wars |
Bonn1997 |
Feb-07-09 09:20 AM |
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For war criminals? Yes. |
liberalmuse |
Feb-05-09 08:36 PM |
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Yes people we absolutely know are murders should be dealt with. ...n/t |
Just-plain-Kathy |
Feb-05-09 08:38 PM |
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How do you ever "absolutely know"? |
Hugabear |
Feb-05-09 09:57 PM |
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What about people like the BTK killer? Don't they also deserve it. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Feb-06-09 10:13 AM |
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If I had the option |
JonLP24 |
Feb-07-09 11:08 AM |
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Well Dave, get your gun and shoot him then |
TWiley |
Feb-08-09 01:48 PM |
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Only for War Crimes and Crimes Against Humanity. n/t |
Ian David |
Feb-05-09 08:37 PM |
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No, but I reject the idea that the taxpayer must spend 50K a year |
panader0 |
Feb-05-09 08:40 PM |
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Nope |
Solly Mack |
Feb-05-09 08:41 PM |
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A govt of the people, by the people & for the people shouldn't be in the business of killing them. |
baldguy |
Feb-05-09 08:42 PM |
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Indeed. |
MrSlayer |
Feb-05-09 08:44 PM |
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to whom? |
ulysses |
Feb-05-09 08:45 PM |
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War criminals, pedophiles, and "defense" contractors |
Sebastian Doyle |
Feb-05-09 08:47 PM |
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to what purpose other than revenge? |
ulysses |
Feb-05-09 08:59 PM |
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Is another purpose needed? |
martymar64 |
Feb-05-09 09:16 PM |
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if you're interested in justice, yes. |
ulysses |
Feb-05-09 09:18 PM |
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Well then, what IS justice? |
martymar64 |
Feb-05-09 09:50 PM |
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I call imprisonment justice, yes. |
ulysses |
Feb-05-09 09:56 PM |
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Well, I have gotten no justice for what was done to me and never will. |
martymar64 |
Feb-05-09 10:44 PM |
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You're confusing vengeance with justice |
Hugabear |
Feb-05-09 10:05 PM |
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My whole life is a prison, a veritable Alcatraz |
martymar64 |
Feb-05-09 10:51 PM |
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So very sorry to hear that |
Hugabear |
Feb-05-09 11:09 PM |
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I understand what you're saying, but . . . |
martymar64 |
Feb-05-09 11:17 PM |
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re: your edit. |
ulysses |
Feb-05-09 10:07 PM |
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Revenge is the least moral reason of all. |
Rabrrrrrr |
Feb-06-09 08:28 AM |
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I definately do not like those guys |
JonLP24 |
Feb-07-09 11:23 AM |
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There are some people who have deliberately made themselves into monsters beyond redemption. |
Sebastian Doyle |
Feb-05-09 09:19 PM |
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I would suggest that you watch too many movies. |
ulysses |
Feb-05-09 09:23 PM |
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Fine. Let's turn all the serial killers and pedophiles loose. |
Sebastian Doyle |
Feb-05-09 09:53 PM |
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kindly point out to me where I've suggested turning them loose. |
ulysses |
Feb-05-09 09:57 PM |
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I would include violent rapists and child rapists. : graphic pics: |
MrSlayer |
Feb-05-09 09:02 PM |
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please note that my opposition to the DP is not out of ignorance |
ulysses |
Feb-05-09 09:11 PM |
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I am thinking. |
MrSlayer |
Feb-05-09 09:31 PM |
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fair enough. |
ulysses |
Feb-05-09 09:35 PM |
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I don't see why living in a democratic society would make a difference here. |
MrSlayer |
Feb-05-09 09:49 PM |
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I'm sure you don't. |
ulysses |
Feb-05-09 10:01 PM |
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Well help a brother out then. |
MrSlayer |
Feb-05-09 10:17 PM |
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A constitutional democracy doesn't always mean the majority rules |
MajorChode |
Feb-07-09 11:13 AM |
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It's interesting that the two most oft-stated reasons to be in favor of the death penalty ... |
TahitiNut |
Feb-05-09 09:54 PM |
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It's cheaper to house them in prison than to kill them |
Hippo_Tron |
Feb-07-09 04:50 PM |
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How would you like the DP to be expanded? nt |
ZombieHorde |
Feb-05-09 08:46 PM |
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WWLJD? |
Dukkha |
Feb-05-09 09:13 PM |
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Lemmy Jesus would tear the heads off these people and use them for kickballs. |
MrSlayer |
Feb-05-09 09:33 PM |
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I'd like to see it expanded to litterers, gum chewers, American Idol watchers, and emos. |
Rabrrrrrr |
Feb-06-09 08:26 AM |
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Kill the fucking Emos. Watching American Idol is ok as long as they're still doing auditions. |
JVS |
Feb-07-09 12:46 PM |
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For criminals who steal my pension...YES ! |
RagAss |
Feb-05-09 08:48 PM |
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Not in it's present form. |
angrycarpenter |
Feb-05-09 08:57 PM |
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Only for Republicans. |
rateyes |
Feb-05-09 08:57 PM |
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Yes. It needs to remain an option |
aikoaiko |
Feb-05-09 09:02 PM |
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yep! sqush 'em like bugs, I say |
frogcycle |
Feb-05-09 09:03 PM |
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Absolutely not. Never. Ever. No way. nt |
DevonRex |
Feb-05-09 09:03 PM |
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of course not. |
dysfunctional press |
Feb-05-09 09:06 PM |
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Not only no, but Hell No. |
tekisui |
Feb-05-09 09:10 PM |
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No, regardless of the circumstances. |
EmeraldCityGrl |
Feb-05-09 09:10 PM |
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No. Not under any circumstance. |
flvegan |
Feb-05-09 09:12 PM |
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Never |
Sen. Walter Sobchak |
Feb-05-09 09:26 PM |
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No. Although sometimes I think... |
stillcool |
Feb-05-09 09:26 PM |
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No |
TripleKatPad |
Feb-05-09 09:26 PM |
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I did support the DP, but now that I have read your post, I do not. |
ZombieHorde |
Feb-05-09 09:35 PM |
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I don't support the death penalty because of the fact that right now, we can't be 100% sure that the |
4lbs |
Feb-05-09 09:27 PM |
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Other. |
truebrit71 |
Feb-05-09 09:29 PM |
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So, that's a yes, then...nt |
SidDithers |
Feb-06-09 01:24 PM |
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I trust the courts about as far as I can throw them. |
corruptmewithpower |
Feb-05-09 10:02 PM |
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No n/t |
ismnotwasm |
Feb-05-09 10:06 PM |
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there's no Scientific PROOF that death is a "penalty", but it is a Blood Sacrifice when Politicians |
sam sarrha |
Feb-05-09 10:10 PM |
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It is scientifically proven that corpses commit no further atrocities. |
D23MIURG23 |
Feb-06-09 10:23 AM |
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that argument would also work |
Bluerthanblue |
Feb-06-09 10:40 AM |
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No it wouldn't. |
D23MIURG23 |
Feb-06-09 10:55 AM |
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I didn't say every human being has |
Bluerthanblue |
Feb-06-09 01:50 PM |
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.. i REQUIRED A >LINK> TO ALL STATEMENTS.. to specifically prevent cynical |
sam sarrha |
Feb-07-09 09:15 AM |
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First of all there is no need for such hostility. |
D23MIURG23 |
Feb-07-09 11:03 AM |
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"ALL" ...is terminally conclusive, and dogmatic.. and ends the discussion.. can only be based on |
sam sarrha |
Feb-07-09 11:56 AM |
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I'm not required to obey your conditions to post a response to you. |
D23MIURG23 |
Feb-08-09 12:57 PM |
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I understand what you are saying, but I don't think rehabilitation is always possible... |
D23MIURG23 |
Feb-07-09 10:56 AM |
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Not at all. It's a childish thing, unfit for a (supposed) evolved and civilized species. |
Rabrrrrrr |
Feb-06-09 08:29 AM |
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Killing people to show that killing is wrong |
MedleyMisty |
Feb-06-09 09:02 AM |
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Ambivalent. |
D23MIURG23 |
Feb-06-09 10:07 AM |
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NO !!! |
L0oniX |
Feb-06-09 10:09 AM |
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I support it, but only with multiple witness's. |
harun |
Feb-06-09 10:11 AM |
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I support it in cases where we would have a hard time calling ourselves a "society" if we didn't |
Dreamer Tatum |
Feb-06-09 10:31 AM |
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Do you think all those European countries can't call themselves societies? -nt |
Commie Pinko Dirtbag |
Feb-06-09 10:34 AM |
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I would have a hard time feeling good about living somewhere like that |
Dreamer Tatum |
Feb-06-09 10:41 AM |
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So, you'd feel bad in Hawaii. |
Commie Pinko Dirtbag |
Feb-06-09 11:01 AM |
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Yeah, I reduced my list of condemned to probably the absolute worst 1% |
Dreamer Tatum |
Feb-06-09 11:20 AM |
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NO |
SammyWinstonJack |
Feb-06-09 10:32 AM |
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100% against it, 100% for life without parole |
LostinVA |
Feb-06-09 10:36 AM |
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no- if it is wrong to kill, it's WRONG to kill. |
Bluerthanblue |
Feb-06-09 10:37 AM |
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Depends on the case so I will say yes. |
SIMPLYB1980 |
Feb-06-09 10:43 AM |
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No. Automatic life without parole for 1st degree murder is better. |
Nye Bevan |
Feb-06-09 10:44 AM |
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Would you consider something like a work farm ? |
.... callchet .... |
Feb-06-09 12:27 PM |
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No. A 10 by 10 cell will do just fine. (nt) |
Nye Bevan |
Feb-06-09 12:44 PM |
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Another no. The only purpose is to satisfy a sense of revenge and that is not what |
Greyhound |
Feb-06-09 10:46 AM |
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simply no |
unapatriciated |
Feb-06-09 11:06 AM |
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No, and there is something wrong with anybody who says yes. NT |
RedCappedBandit |
Feb-06-09 11:10 AM |
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Would you kill someone to protect an endangered species? |
ZombieHorde |
Feb-06-09 12:18 PM |
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Firstly, no, probably not |
RedCappedBandit |
Feb-07-09 11:43 AM |
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I don't like the idea of governments having the power to kill, so no. |
HEyHEY |
Feb-06-09 11:16 AM |
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Not in any circumstance...nt |
SidDithers |
Feb-06-09 12:20 PM |
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I do not support the death penalty nor do I support |
.... callchet .... |
Feb-06-09 12:25 PM |
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It is amazing how many people just don't get that.... |
HEyHEY |
Feb-06-09 01:53 PM |
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(Yes ) only for these exceptions; Pedophiles who murder children, mass-murderers |
DainBramaged |
Feb-06-09 12:26 PM |
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I think it's morally justified in some cases, but people aren't smart enough to never execute... |
slackmaster |
Feb-06-09 12:31 PM |
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No - I firmly believe it is unethical for the state to take life |
Taverner |
Feb-06-09 12:31 PM |
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Under The Right Circumstances? Absolutely. |
OPERATIONMINDCRIME |
Feb-06-09 12:32 PM |
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No. |
TexasObserver |
Feb-06-09 12:51 PM |
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No |
Marrah_G |
Feb-06-09 01:35 PM |
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Only if it is proven 100% that the condemned is guilty. |
edbermac |
Feb-06-09 01:40 PM |
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Yes. Two reasons: |
Deja Q |
Feb-06-09 01:41 PM |
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America is the wrong country for the death penalty |
JonLP24 |
Feb-07-09 11:20 AM |
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Yes I do |
Upton |
Feb-07-09 09:30 AM |
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Do you support the DP in this situation because there were multiple murders, |
ZombieHorde |
Feb-07-09 12:29 PM |
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What puts this case over the top for me |
Upton |
Feb-07-09 12:40 PM |
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Although I do not support the DP, I agree with you on that being over the top. |
ZombieHorde |
Feb-07-09 12:42 PM |
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No. It's officially sanctioned barbarism and |
bread_and_roses |
Feb-07-09 09:35 AM |
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no, it's murder....murder for a murder... |
spanone |
Feb-07-09 11:04 AM |
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No but if you're going to have a death penalty do it right |
JonLP24 |
Feb-07-09 11:06 AM |
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No I do not. |
cboy4 |
Feb-07-09 11:46 AM |
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I find it kind of scary that not only do many people here support the DP... |
varkam |
Feb-07-09 11:54 AM |
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Duers are fans of violence, don't give out any personal information. |
ZombieHorde |
Feb-07-09 12:38 PM |
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No shit, thanks for the tip. |
varkam |
Feb-08-09 10:21 AM |
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No, the Death Penalty is completely immoral. |
anonymous171 |
Feb-07-09 12:41 PM |
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No under every circumstance |
MrCoffee |
Feb-07-09 12:43 PM |
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Yes, if administered properly (nt) |
sampsonblk |
Feb-07-09 12:50 PM |
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I had to vote yes... |
NaturalHigh |
Feb-07-09 12:50 PM |
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Oh, jeez. |
Iggo |
Feb-07-09 01:24 PM |
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No - woo-woo answer. |
all.of.me |
Feb-07-09 01:35 PM |
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Is the act of making bad people suffer a beneficial act? |
ZombieHorde |
Feb-07-09 01:58 PM |
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That person created a lot of suffering. |
all.of.me |
Feb-07-09 03:23 PM |
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I don't see why they should suffer, but I do believe people have a right to defend themselves, |
ZombieHorde |
Feb-07-09 03:32 PM |
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Yes |
MicaelS |
Feb-07-09 01:57 PM |
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I'm beginning to have second thoughts... |
ljm2002 |
Feb-07-09 02:06 PM |
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Yes and here's why |
Joey Liberal |
Feb-07-09 03:25 PM |
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Do I trust the governent with the power to kill me or another? Fuck no. |
BlooInBloo |
Feb-07-09 04:20 PM |
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I don't trust them with that power either, but I do find it interesting that |
ZombieHorde |
Feb-07-09 04:28 PM |
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To be fair, killing people is easy whereas helping poor people takes work and sacrifice. |
varkam |
Feb-08-09 12:40 PM |
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Yes, for war criminals and terrorists - I mean, the *real* ones. |
CLG_News |
Feb-07-09 04:48 PM |
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NO. |
pleah |
Feb-07-09 04:54 PM |
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Yes |
rd_kent |
Feb-08-09 10:43 AM |
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No, but only because I can't trust the government to get anything right. |
scrinmaster |
Feb-08-09 12:51 PM |
#161 |