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49. What does 142 bullion for taxcuts for the "middle class" mean exactly
Edited on Wed Feb-04-09 03:56 PM by ooglymoogly
I'd guess if the pugs had their druthers, just for the purposes of this bill, the "middle class" means anyone making under 20 million a year. In any case tax cuts are the least effective way to boost the economy; Adding to the economy just 30 cents for every dollar spent...a net loss of 70 cents per dollar spent...on the other hand, food stamps, welfare, lower income and the like boosts the economy $1.30 for every dollar spent because that money has to be spent into the economy. The tax cuts are too big of a giveaway to places it is not needed and does not have to be spent so urgently. So just to recap;
Every dollar the government pumps into the economy for tax cuts equals a 30 cent boost to the economy.
For every dollar the government pumps into the economy for the more desperate, boosts the economy by $1.30.
and if memory serves, every dollar spent on infrastructure and job creation brings in $1.70 for every dollar spent + we get something vital in return and that my friends is a win win situation.

What is wrong with this picture?

So ixnay on the tax cuts, except those struggling to survive, and more, more, more on the infrastructure that will carry us into the next century and lots to help the needy pull themselves up from poverty, thus adding to the economy forever...or at least until another puke steals an election.

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  - What does 142 bullion for taxcuts for the "middle class" mean exactly  ooglymoogly   Feb-04-09 03:19 PM   #49 
  - I believe its for those under 150K nt  The Hope Mobile   Feb-04-09 04:26 PM   #60 
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           - ....  bobbolink   Feb-04-09 09:20 PM   #104 
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  - K&R! n/t  juno jones   Feb-04-09 07:42 PM   #96 
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  - ask the operator for her local phone number - they keep track there, too  Coexist   Feb-04-09 08:24 PM   #101 
  - Me too. n/t  myrna minx   Feb-05-09 09:02 AM   #129 
  - K&R  varelse   Feb-04-09 07:57 PM   #99 
  - Strong kick.  saltpoint   Feb-04-09 08:23 PM   #100 
  - Excellent  Horse with no Name   Feb-04-09 09:51 PM   #107 
  - I did a couple days ago  Juche   Feb-04-09 10:02 PM   #109 
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  - Because it's the corporate RePUKE media ! Fuck them fuck them fuch them !!  RBInMaine   Feb-05-09 04:22 AM   #118 
  - Faxes aren't a bad idea either...  tosh   Feb-04-09 10:30 PM   #112 
  - kick  defendandprotect   Feb-04-09 10:50 PM   #113 
  - I'm reversing and calling to oppose it tomorrow -  Waiting For Everyman   Feb-04-09 10:58 PM   #115 
  - Perhaps you'd prefer the Republican package? Get out of here then you jerk !  RBInMaine   Feb-05-09 04:21 AM   #117 
     - I guess it's ok with you then, if these jobs we're creating don't go to Americans?  Waiting For Everyman   Feb-05-09 07:38 AM   #124 
        - Thanks soooo very much for helping me out here.  bobbolink   Feb-05-09 11:58 AM   #143 
  - k&r  Tindalos   Feb-04-09 11:34 PM   #116 
  - Arlen Spector's voicemail is full.  Maureen1322   Feb-05-09 04:31 AM   #119 
  - K&R, and I'll make the calls  silverojo   Feb-05-09 04:33 AM   #120 
  - K & R!  Highway61   Feb-05-09 06:17 AM   #121 
  - I have one question  jules1962   Feb-05-09 06:30 AM   #122 
  - Big K & R !!!  WillyT   Feb-05-09 06:50 AM   #123 
  - Email I sent to Bond (R) MO  Sherman A1   Feb-05-09 08:09 AM   #125 
  - that makes two of us  hileeopnyn8d   Feb-05-09 11:49 AM   #142 
  - We may be outnumbered but he still needs to hear from us  Sherman A1   Feb-05-09 12:50 PM   #149 
     - Absolutely! Sometimes democracy is difficult....  bobbolink   Feb-05-09 04:45 PM   #150 
  - Excellent!!  bobbolink   Feb-05-09 11:59 AM   #144 
  - kick  bdamomma   Feb-05-09 08:28 AM   #127 
  - kick  bdamomma   Feb-05-09 08:46 AM   #128 
  - I contacted my Ohio senators  Peggesis1   Feb-05-09 09:55 AM   #132 
  - Who is going  pjt7   Feb-05-09 10:25 AM   #133 
  - It's always good to support and thank those who vote as we would like!  bobbolink   Feb-05-09 12:00 PM   #145 
  - Done in Virginia.  BonnieJW   Feb-05-09 10:28 AM   #134 
  - Absolutely!  Kajsa   Feb-05-09 10:55 AM   #136 
  - done  tabbycat31   Feb-05-09 10:57 AM   #137 
  - E-mail works  EvilChime   Feb-05-09 11:13 AM   #138 
  - Thom Hartmann is flogging THIS post on his show right NOW! - n/t  lapfog_1   Feb-05-09 11:16 AM   #139 
  - Ring ring ring  Kindigger   Feb-05-09 11:44 AM   #141 
  - Definite KICK - can't R as I'm (as usual) a day late......  northofdenali   Feb-05-09 12:16 PM   #146 
  - Line is busy, busy, busy.  jillan   Feb-05-09 12:30 PM   #148 
  - K&R  20score   Feb-05-09 06:40 PM   #151 
  - K & R  democracy1st   Feb-06-09 02:07 AM   #152 
     - k&r  4 t 4   Feb-06-09 11:34 AM   #153 
 

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