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Wed Feb-04-09 03:19 PM
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| 49. What does 142 bullion for taxcuts for the "middle class" mean exactly |
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Edited on Wed Feb-04-09 03:56 PM by ooglymoogly
I'd guess if the pugs had their druthers, just for the purposes of this bill, the "middle class" means anyone making under 20 million a year. In any case tax cuts are the least effective way to boost the economy; Adding to the economy just 30 cents for every dollar spent...a net loss of 70 cents per dollar spent...on the other hand, food stamps, welfare, lower income and the like boosts the economy $1.30 for every dollar spent because that money has to be spent into the economy. The tax cuts are too big of a giveaway to places it is not needed and does not have to be spent so urgently. So just to recap; Every dollar the government pumps into the economy for tax cuts equals a 30 cent boost to the economy. For every dollar the government pumps into the economy for the more desperate, boosts the economy by $1.30. and if memory serves, every dollar spent on infrastructure and job creation brings in $1.70 for every dollar spent + we get something vital in return and that my friends is a win win situation.
What is wrong with this picture?
So ixnay on the tax cuts, except those struggling to survive, and more, more, more on the infrastructure that will carry us into the next century and lots to help the needy pull themselves up from poverty, thus adding to the economy forever...or at least until another puke steals an election.
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| -CALL THE SENATE RIGHT F*@KING NOW!!1!1!! |
Coexist |
Feb-04-09 12:25 PM |
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K&R...will do...right friggin now! |
Jack Bone |
Feb-04-09 12:29 PM |
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Done! long wait on the toll free line... |
Jack Bone |
Feb-04-09 01:06 PM |
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Call first. Next donate to Move On. |
cyclezealot |
Feb-04-09 04:57 PM |
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More TOLL FREE Capitol Hill switchboard numbers here: |
calimary |
Feb-04-09 10:52 PM |
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if it includes the republican bs then it is a bad and counterproductive bill |
natrat |
Feb-05-09 09:21 AM |
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Both DC Senate numbers were busy. |
bluestateboomer |
Feb-05-09 11:33 AM |
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This is the ONLY program that has included poor folks! ****TAKE ACTION**** |
bobbolink |
Feb-04-09 12:29 PM |
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I couldn't get through by phone, so I settled for e-mail |
Oak2004 |
Feb-04-09 02:33 PM |
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My congress people |
hyphenate |
Feb-04-09 09:49 PM |
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my Senators will vote for the Stimulus plan both Reed and Whitehouse. |
bdamomma |
Feb-05-09 08:23 AM |
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Mine are probably praying the legislation will fail. |
Pacifist Patriot |
Feb-05-09 10:49 AM |
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You can also use the Senators email forms at Senate.gov |
Coexist |
Feb-04-09 02:43 PM |
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All circuits are busy now |
goclark |
Feb-04-09 12:36 PM |
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Already did |
question everything |
Feb-04-09 12:48 PM |
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K & R !!! |
NanceGreggs |
Feb-04-09 12:49 PM |
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Call call call! |
lonestarnot |
Feb-04-09 12:50 PM |
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Done. K&R |
Greyhound |
Feb-04-09 12:52 PM |
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Also..if you're having trouble getting through.. |
stillcool |
Feb-04-09 12:55 PM |
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K&R! |
yellerpup |
Feb-04-09 12:57 PM |
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free fax if you are at work and cannot call |
Fireweed247 |
Feb-04-09 12:58 PM |
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Great! Thaks for this! |
bobbolink |
Feb-04-09 12:59 PM |
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Done, and done. |
Skidmore |
Feb-04-09 01:01 PM |
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I have already called my Senators Reed and Whitehouse. |
bdamomma |
Feb-04-09 01:05 PM |
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K&R |
begin_within |
Feb-04-09 01:08 PM |
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busy...busy...busy Will keep trying! |
asdjrocky |
Feb-04-09 01:12 PM |
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contacted Brown & Voinovich |
mod mom |
Feb-04-09 01:12 PM |
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Do we have any idea which Senators are on the fence at this point? |
bobbolink |
Feb-04-09 01:12 PM |
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unfortunately, no. and both my Senators VM were full |
Coexist |
Feb-04-09 02:23 PM |
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For that reason, it's best to call the local numbers, too. |
bobbolink |
Feb-04-09 03:49 PM |
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going to call mine right f@#king now!!! |
Beaverhausen |
Feb-04-09 01:20 PM |
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.... |
bobbolink |
Feb-04-09 01:33 PM |
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Took a while to get through |
Beaverhausen |
Feb-04-09 02:39 PM |
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Boxer in CA is cool. Can anyone confirm that Feinstein is on our side? n/t |
Kaleko |
Feb-04-09 02:48 PM |
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Just by calling and asking..... |
bobbolink |
Feb-04-09 03:44 PM |
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I just called and said I was a constituent and that I was hoping Di Fi was voting for |
bluesmail |
Feb-04-09 05:26 PM |
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It's always a good idea to call and thank them... they get PLENTY of angry hate calls, |
bobbolink |
Feb-04-09 03:43 PM |
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Good idea. Unfortunately my senators are Graham and Demint- Useless! |
dgibby |
Feb-04-09 01:27 PM |
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Thank you for contacting them, anyway! It's necessary, and if enough do it, it could do some good. |
bobbolink |
Feb-04-09 01:42 PM |
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Not as bad as Shelby and Sessions |
BirminghamExaminer |
Feb-05-09 09:09 AM |
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Mine are Kyl and McCain |
drmeow |
Feb-05-09 12:29 PM |
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K&R |
redqueen |
Feb-04-09 01:42 PM |
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Thanks so much! I guess it takes a bit more time than usual... |
bobbolink |
Feb-04-09 01:44 PM |
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called yesterday, calling again |
G_j |
Feb-04-09 01:48 PM |
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Thanks!! |
bobbolink |
Feb-04-09 03:44 PM |
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K&R Already did. |
Waiting For Everyman |
Feb-04-09 01:59 PM |
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Done - Saxby and Isakson have the answering machines on. |
SmileyRose |
Feb-04-09 02:01 PM |
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Try faxing nt |
The Hope Mobile |
Feb-04-09 04:23 PM |
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I'm on hold with the senate, what should I tell him when he gets back? |
Hippo_Tron |
Feb-04-09 02:02 PM |
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ASK if he is voting for Obama's Stimulus package. |
bobbolink |
Feb-04-09 06:50 PM |
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Thank you! K&R n/t |
OneGrassRoot |
Feb-04-09 02:05 PM |
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K&R!! |
dajoki |
Feb-04-09 02:13 PM |
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K&R! |
smokey nj |
Feb-04-09 02:24 PM |
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all GOP senators and blue dogs are getting huge pressure from talk radio |
certainot |
Feb-04-09 02:24 PM |
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Orrrrr....... We can pelt their offices with calls they can't ignore!! |
bobbolink |
Feb-04-09 03:45 PM |
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I called my senators (Roberts & Brownback) this morning... |
KansDem |
Feb-04-09 02:24 PM |
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K & R |
democracy1st |
Feb-04-09 02:25 PM |
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2:25 pm CST - "We're sorry, all circuits are busy now..." |
acmavm |
Feb-04-09 02:26 PM |
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Try faxing nt |
The Hope Mobile |
Feb-04-09 04:29 PM |
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2:25 pm CST - "We're sorry, all circuits are busy now..." |
acmavm |
Feb-04-09 02:27 PM |
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K&R |
HughMoran |
Feb-04-09 02:35 PM |
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I wonder if the working class conservatives who are calling in |
Middle finga |
Feb-04-09 02:45 PM |
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Okey Dokey, got Nelson's office. Now for Johanns... |
acmavm |
Feb-04-09 02:46 PM |
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K&R |
leftstreet |
Feb-04-09 02:48 PM |
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Sent email to my Senators |
Laf.La.Dem. |
Feb-04-09 02:56 PM |
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Done and Done, by email |
Constance Craving |
Feb-04-09 03:00 PM |
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WTF!? K+R ... currently dialing ... n/t |
ColbertWatcher |
Feb-04-09 03:03 PM |
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What does 142 bullion for taxcuts for the "middle class" mean exactly |
ooglymoogly |
Feb-04-09 03:19 PM |
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I believe its for those under 150K nt |
The Hope Mobile |
Feb-04-09 04:26 PM |
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Is that actually what is in the bill and non negotiable, or like everything else |
ooglymoogly |
Feb-04-09 05:24 PM |
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I agree with you. We've given far too much already which is exactly |
The Hope Mobile |
Feb-04-09 05:27 PM |
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I already did |
LibertyLover |
Feb-04-09 03:28 PM |
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K & R |
Tsiyu |
Feb-04-09 03:37 PM |
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Finally this is getting the attention it deserves. |
Luminous Animal |
Feb-04-09 03:53 PM |
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Already did and sent faxes to my senators DC and local offices. nt |
The Hope Mobile |
Feb-04-09 04:21 PM |
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Thank you! |
bobbolink |
Feb-04-09 04:38 PM |
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gladly! |
The Hope Mobile |
Feb-04-09 05:25 PM |
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Calling Wyden and Merkely |
Bluenorthwest |
Feb-04-09 04:46 PM |
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Thanks!!! |
bobbolink |
Feb-04-09 04:49 PM |
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Printed out, bookmarked, kicked and rec'd. NT |
Mike 03 |
Feb-04-09 04:47 PM |
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For Coloradans, Our Two New Senators ... |
bobbolink |
Feb-04-09 04:53 PM |
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I called Udall's colorado number |
blaze |
Feb-04-09 06:50 PM |
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Thanks for letting me know. |
bobbolink |
Feb-04-09 07:05 PM |
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Except for this!! |
blaze |
Feb-04-09 07:53 PM |
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Great! |
bobbolink |
Feb-04-09 09:23 PM |
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See what loads of money can buy! n/t |
bluesmail |
Feb-04-09 05:08 PM |
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What does that mean? |
bobbolink |
Feb-04-09 05:28 PM |
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I don't know how it happened. I thought I was replying to a different thread... |
bluesmail |
Feb-04-09 06:18 PM |
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Done. |
Chan790 |
Feb-04-09 05:33 PM |
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K&R!!!! |
BrklynLiberal |
Feb-04-09 05:38 PM |
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K&R! nt |
I Have A Dream |
Feb-04-09 06:00 PM |
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are there any checks and balances or accountability in this "stimulus"? |
WillYourVoteBCounted |
Feb-04-09 06:01 PM |
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You're joking ... right? My senators are Mitch McConnell and Jim Bunning. |
MasonJar |
Feb-04-09 06:16 PM |
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They represent you, right? So, you have a say in this, right? |
bobbolink |
Feb-04-09 07:22 PM |
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K&R, done and I also asked them to get on the TV, radio, etc and |
Jefferson23 |
Feb-04-09 06:19 PM |
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thank you!!!! |
bobbolink |
Feb-04-09 07:09 PM |
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If President Obama had spent as much energy clarifying this bill to the |
MasonJar |
Feb-04-09 06:25 PM |
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Team Obama Needs To Put The Word Out Hard To Everyone Who Voted For Change In November !! |
RBInMaine |
Feb-04-09 06:31 PM |
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Stop Trying To Work With The PUKES !! FUCK THEM !! WE WON, THEY LOST, FUCK THEM !! |
RBInMaine |
Feb-04-09 06:32 PM |
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I just sent this e-mail to Senator Hagan (Damn, I love the fact |
mnhtnbb |
Feb-04-09 06:35 PM |
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And spend it here! it's Jobs! Jobs! Jobs! take note... |
bonito |
Feb-04-09 06:56 PM |
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Actually, it's much more than that, if that matters to you. For the FIRST TIME |
bobbolink |
Feb-04-09 07:10 PM |
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I wasn't aware of provisions in that regard |
bonito |
Feb-04-09 07:34 PM |
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It's in the OP. ^_^ |
bobbolink |
Feb-04-09 08:41 PM |
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I hear you |
bonito |
Feb-04-09 08:54 PM |
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.... |
bobbolink |
Feb-04-09 09:20 PM |
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I agree with the stimulus |
StreetKnowledge |
Feb-04-09 09:57 PM |
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K&R!! |
blaze |
Feb-04-09 06:59 PM |
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K & R |
malaise |
Feb-04-09 07:20 PM |
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I already contacted my senators a few days ago |
demo dutch |
Feb-04-09 07:23 PM |
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K&R! n/t |
juno jones |
Feb-04-09 07:42 PM |
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I have only one Senator :-( And her voice mailbox is full. |
wellstone dem |
Feb-04-09 07:45 PM |
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ask the operator for her local phone number - they keep track there, too |
Coexist |
Feb-04-09 08:24 PM |
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Me too. n/t |
myrna minx |
Feb-05-09 09:02 AM |
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K&R |
varelse |
Feb-04-09 07:57 PM |
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Strong kick. |
saltpoint |
Feb-04-09 08:23 PM |
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Excellent |
Horse with no Name |
Feb-04-09 09:51 PM |
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I did a couple days ago |
Juche |
Feb-04-09 10:02 PM |
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Will call deaf ears in the morning. Hutchison and Cornyn nt |
Imalittleteapot |
Feb-04-09 10:09 PM |
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CNN is beating the shit of the bill by reading the republican talkign points non stop and Lou Dobbs |
pam4water |
Feb-04-09 10:27 PM |
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Because it's the corporate RePUKE media ! Fuck them fuck them fuch them !! |
RBInMaine |
Feb-05-09 04:22 AM |
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Faxes aren't a bad idea either... |
tosh |
Feb-04-09 10:30 PM |
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kick |
defendandprotect |
Feb-04-09 10:50 PM |
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I'm reversing and calling to oppose it tomorrow - |
Waiting For Everyman |
Feb-04-09 10:58 PM |
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Perhaps you'd prefer the Republican package? Get out of here then you jerk ! |
RBInMaine |
Feb-05-09 04:21 AM |
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I guess it's ok with you then, if these jobs we're creating don't go to Americans? |
Waiting For Everyman |
Feb-05-09 07:38 AM |
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Thanks soooo very much for helping me out here. |
bobbolink |
Feb-05-09 11:58 AM |
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k&r |
Tindalos |
Feb-04-09 11:34 PM |
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Arlen Spector's voicemail is full. |
Maureen1322 |
Feb-05-09 04:31 AM |
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K&R, and I'll make the calls |
silverojo |
Feb-05-09 04:33 AM |
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K & R! |
Highway61 |
Feb-05-09 06:17 AM |
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I have one question |
jules1962 |
Feb-05-09 06:30 AM |
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Big K & R !!! |
WillyT |
Feb-05-09 06:50 AM |
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Email I sent to Bond (R) MO |
Sherman A1 |
Feb-05-09 08:09 AM |
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that makes two of us |
hileeopnyn8d |
Feb-05-09 11:49 AM |
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We may be outnumbered but he still needs to hear from us |
Sherman A1 |
Feb-05-09 12:50 PM |
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Absolutely! Sometimes democracy is difficult.... |
bobbolink |
Feb-05-09 04:45 PM |
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Excellent!! |
bobbolink |
Feb-05-09 11:59 AM |
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kick |
bdamomma |
Feb-05-09 08:28 AM |
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kick |
bdamomma |
Feb-05-09 08:46 AM |
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I contacted my Ohio senators |
Peggesis1 |
Feb-05-09 09:55 AM |
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Who is going |
pjt7 |
Feb-05-09 10:25 AM |
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It's always good to support and thank those who vote as we would like! |
bobbolink |
Feb-05-09 12:00 PM |
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Done in Virginia. |
BonnieJW |
Feb-05-09 10:28 AM |
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Absolutely! |
Kajsa |
Feb-05-09 10:55 AM |
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done |
tabbycat31 |
Feb-05-09 10:57 AM |
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E-mail works |
EvilChime |
Feb-05-09 11:13 AM |
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Thom Hartmann is flogging THIS post on his show right NOW! - n/t |
lapfog_1 |
Feb-05-09 11:16 AM |
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Ring ring ring |
Kindigger |
Feb-05-09 11:44 AM |
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Definite KICK - can't R as I'm (as usual) a day late...... |
northofdenali |
Feb-05-09 12:16 PM |
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Line is busy, busy, busy. |
jillan |
Feb-05-09 12:30 PM |
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K&R |
20score |
Feb-05-09 06:40 PM |
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K & R |
democracy1st |
Feb-06-09 02:07 AM |
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k&r |
4 t 4 |
Feb-06-09 11:34 AM |
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