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Wed Feb-04-09 02:09 PM
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| Claim: "mercury-containing vaccines were the cause of her autism." SUSTAINED. |
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The child's claim against the government -- that mercury-containing vaccines were the cause of her autism -- was supposed to be one of three "test cases" for the thimerosal-autism theory currently under consideration by a three-member panel of Special Masters, the presiding justices in Federal Claims Court.
Keisler wrote that medical personnel at the HHS Division of Vaccine Injury Compensation (DVIC) had reviewed the case and "concluded that compensation is appropriate."
The doctors conceded that the child was healthy and developing normally until her 18-month well-baby visit, when she received vaccinations against nine different diseases all at once (two contained thimerosal).
Days later, the girl began spiraling downward into a cascade of illnesses and setbacks that, within months, presented as symptoms of autism, including: No response to verbal direction; loss of language skills; no eye contact; loss of "relatedness;" insomnia; incessant screaming; arching; and "watching the florescent lights repeatedly during examination."
Seven months after vaccination, the patient was diagnosed by Dr. Andrew Zimmerman, a leading neurologist at the Kennedy Krieger Children's Hospital Neurology Clinic, with "regressive encephalopathy (brain disease) with features consistent with autistic spectrum disorder, following normal development." The girl also met the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual for Mental Disorders (DSM-IV) official criteria for autism.http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-kirby/government-co... ....... Now will you please knock off the nonsense?
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| -What's up with RFK, Jr getting passed over? |
pilsner |
Feb-04-09 12:37 AM |
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Obama is what he always was -- a Reagan admirer. |
JDPriestly |
Feb-04-09 12:40 AM |
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Oh please. He's done quite a few progressive things since being president |
WI_DEM |
Feb-04-09 11:04 AM |
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Ahhh, but he didn't add Cindy Sheehan and Cynthia McKinney to his cabinet |
Taverner |
Feb-04-09 12:58 PM |
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Or even Dennis Kucinich, for that matter |
KamaAina |
Feb-04-09 03:28 PM |
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Ahh so he failed the political test |
Taverner |
Feb-04-09 12:56 PM |
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K&R I know, I am not pleased either |
Carolina |
Feb-04-09 12:41 AM |
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He's said he has no interest in the Senate or other appointments. |
ConsAreLiars |
Feb-04-09 12:45 AM |
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Noblese oblige |
pilsner |
Feb-04-09 01:07 AM |
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He is already serving in the best way he can. |
ConsAreLiars |
Feb-04-09 01:42 AM |
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He also said he has too many kids for so little pay. |
L. Coyote |
Feb-04-09 01:48 AM |
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maybe he paid his taxes |
Skittles |
Feb-04-09 12:45 AM |
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he must be squeeky clean |
pilsner |
Feb-04-09 12:49 AM |
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That doesn't mean he wants all his finances to be public. n/t |
pnwmom |
Feb-04-09 01:34 AM |
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He has a long ago heroin conviction - not exactly squeaky clean, though that was far in the past |
karynnj |
Feb-04-09 11:07 AM |
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He was busted once for heroin. I think that's why he hasn't run for office. |
OmmmSweetOmmm |
Feb-04-09 12:09 PM |
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Blaming vaccines for autism put him in the kook corner (nt) |
question everything |
Feb-04-09 12:49 AM |
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RFK was proven right about vaccines and autism |
pilsner |
Feb-04-09 12:57 AM |
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thanks for that. |
garybeck |
Feb-04-09 01:02 AM |
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Yes, thimerosal was removed from vaccines... for the wrong reasons |
question everything |
Feb-04-09 11:03 AM |
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there is nothing wrong with thimerosol |
TZ |
Feb-04-09 11:06 AM |
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No, he bloody well wasn't |
Spider Jerusalem |
Feb-04-09 01:53 AM |
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Thanks for the facts. |
emilyg |
Feb-04-09 02:01 AM |
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Thanks for setting the record straight |
question everything |
Feb-04-09 11:02 AM |
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Exactly. |
LeftishBrit |
Feb-04-09 01:04 PM |
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The link is to mercury, not to vaccines, as you well know, |
bottomtheweaver |
Feb-04-09 01:44 PM |
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There is no link to mercury. |
Spider Jerusalem |
Feb-04-09 01:59 PM |
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Wrong. See below. And below. And below. |
bottomtheweaver |
Feb-04-09 02:16 PM |
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"The child's claim ... that mercury-containing vaccines were the cause of her autism" |
bottomtheweaver |
Feb-04-09 01:58 PM |
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..... |
Spider Jerusalem |
Feb-04-09 02:02 PM |
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Right,up is down, gotcha. |
bottomtheweaver |
Feb-04-09 02:13 PM |
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You don't understand the science |
TZ |
Feb-04-09 11:05 AM |
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So you trust the Bush era scientists? nt |
pilsner |
Feb-04-09 12:00 PM |
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The majority of studies on whether there was in fact a connection between vaccines and autism... |
Spider Jerusalem |
Feb-04-09 12:06 PM |
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You're right I'm not an expert on this issue |
pilsner |
Feb-04-09 12:21 PM |
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Children get early vaccinations in Europe too. |
LeftishBrit |
Feb-04-09 01:01 PM |
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Thanks for the info |
pilsner |
Feb-04-09 01:10 PM |
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No he wasn't |
Spider Jerusalem |
Feb-04-09 01:13 PM |
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even though the administrators may change |
Bill McBlueState |
Feb-04-09 12:42 PM |
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Yeah, but remember Phil Cooney |
pilsner |
Feb-04-09 01:12 PM |
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'Bush era'? - much research on autism and on vaccines has been done outside the USA |
LeftishBrit |
Feb-04-09 12:53 PM |
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Yes he was, but that won't stop the ahem, advocates |
bottomtheweaver |
Feb-04-09 01:32 PM |
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Yep... |
catnhatnh |
Feb-04-09 01:57 AM |
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ignoring sound science and not even knowing the facts |
TZ |
Feb-04-09 11:07 AM |
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The fact is the HHS had conceded that "mercury-containing vaccines" cause autism. |
bottomtheweaver |
Feb-04-09 02:18 PM |
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Could it be he has a criminal record.... |
QueenOfCalifornia |
Feb-04-09 12:50 AM |
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yep 25 years is not long enough to change your wicked ways |
democracy1st |
Feb-04-09 01:07 AM |
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I'm giving it one more week before I rip off the bumper sticker. |
EmeraldCityGrl |
Feb-04-09 12:51 AM |
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he's a true progressive ! I'm telling you this crap is getting bad |
democracy1st |
Feb-04-09 01:03 AM |
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How do we know that he wasn't the one to turn a job down? n/t |
pnwmom |
Feb-04-09 01:35 AM |
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Why wasn't I considered too? |
anonymous171 |
Feb-04-09 12:11 PM |
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For the same reason Jenny McCarthy isn't Surgeon General. |
HiFructosePronSyrup |
Feb-04-09 12:12 PM |
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Back up your assertions about RFK, Jr. |
pilsner |
Feb-04-09 12:15 PM |
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He's been wrong about the link between vaccines and autism for one thing |
Spider Jerusalem |
Feb-04-09 12:21 PM |
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Do you believe that vaccines cause autism? |
HiFructosePronSyrup |
Feb-04-09 12:25 PM |
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I'm no expert but explain this |
pilsner |
Feb-04-09 12:32 PM |
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It's already been explained to you above. |
HiFructosePronSyrup |
Feb-04-09 12:34 PM |
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Did you even READ my first response to that? |
Spider Jerusalem |
Feb-04-09 12:36 PM |
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I don't have 20 minutes to read a freaking science journal |
pilsner |
Feb-04-09 12:39 PM |
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Alright, if you have no time to acquaint yourself with a subject, you have NO business discussing it |
Spider Jerusalem |
Feb-04-09 12:41 PM |
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ok, most ominipotent bohdisattva |
pilsner |
Feb-04-09 12:48 PM |
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Would you like your babies getting measles? |
HiFructosePronSyrup |
Feb-04-09 12:51 PM |
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I do care for my kids, omnipotent one |
pilsner |
Feb-04-09 12:57 PM |
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And kids are dying from measles... |
HiFructosePronSyrup |
Feb-04-09 01:19 PM |
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Claim: "mercury-containing vaccines were the cause of her autism." SUSTAINED. |
bottomtheweaver |
Feb-04-09 02:09 PM |
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Debunked. |
HiFructosePronSyrup |
Feb-04-09 02:19 PM |
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Only in your dreams. n/t |
bottomtheweaver |
Feb-04-09 02:24 PM |
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Do you get your kids vaccinated, btw? |
HiFructosePronSyrup |
Feb-04-09 02:25 PM |
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The subject is RFK Jr, whose claims have been proven correct by the US HHS |
bottomtheweaver |
Feb-04-09 02:27 PM |
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Actually, no. |
HiFructosePronSyrup |
Feb-04-09 02:29 PM |
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You were funnier when you were trying to be. n/t |
bottomtheweaver |
Feb-04-09 02:30 PM |
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You're funny when you're trying to be serious. |
HiFructosePronSyrup |
Feb-04-09 03:14 PM |
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Babies aren't getting thimerasol any more anyway. Not for a long time.. |
LeftishBrit |
Feb-04-09 12:51 PM |
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You're reading from ignorant bullshit. |
Spider Jerusalem |
Feb-04-09 12:54 PM |
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Say you are right and RFK was wrong (about vaccines) |
pilsner |
Feb-04-09 01:20 PM |
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No, Kennedy was right all along about vaccines. It's the mercury used to preserve them, |
bottomtheweaver |
Feb-04-09 01:34 PM |
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There was never thimerosal in the MMR vaccine. |
Spider Jerusalem |
Feb-04-09 01:56 PM |
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Claim: "mercury-containing vaccines were the cause of her autism." SUSTAINED. |
bottomtheweaver |
Feb-04-09 02:06 PM |
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She's not autistic! |
Spider Jerusalem |
Feb-04-09 02:09 PM |
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Wrong. Neurological diagnosis: "autistic spectrum disorder, following normal development." |
bottomtheweaver |
Feb-04-09 02:12 PM |
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Regressive encepalopathy triggered by adverse reaction to vaccine... |
Spider Jerusalem |
Feb-04-09 02:38 PM |
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Um, the Justice Department LOST, but keep trying. n/t |
bottomtheweaver |
Feb-04-09 02:50 PM |
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Once again, since you seem to be amazingly fucking stupid: |
Spider Jerusalem |
Feb-04-09 02:56 PM |
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See above. "The government's concession |
bottomtheweaver |
Feb-04-09 03:10 PM |
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Nobody's arguing that the government lost. |
HiFructosePronSyrup |
Feb-04-09 03:13 PM |
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I'm sorry, but an article by a well-known antivaccine crank is not a credible source of anything. |
Spider Jerusalem |
Feb-04-09 03:14 PM |
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LOL. Here, you need one: |
bottomtheweaver |
Feb-04-09 03:18 PM |
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Toxic sludge is GOOD for you! |
bottomtheweaver |
Feb-04-09 01:36 PM |
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RFK Jr. was also a former cocaine addict. That alone would disqualify him. |
Selatius |
Feb-04-09 01:38 PM |
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Good God---he's changed his life for 20 some years |
pilsner |
Feb-04-09 01:41 PM |
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All true, but again, they play "gotcha!" in politics. You saw what they did with Bill Clinton. |
Selatius |
Feb-04-09 01:50 PM |
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Uh, the Repubs look to run David Vitter again n/t |
pilsner |
Feb-04-09 01:54 PM |
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Yeah, that's because they have double-standards. nt |
Selatius |
Feb-04-09 01:55 PM |
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RFK Jr was busted for HEROIN possession, not coke. NT |
NYCGirl |
Feb-04-09 02:17 PM |
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There is no proof that he ever used cocaine |
Freddie Stubbs |
Feb-04-09 01:58 PM |
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How do you know he wasn't offered a position and declined? |
Freddie Stubbs |
Feb-04-09 01:56 PM |
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once again, noblese oblige |
pilsner |
Feb-04-09 02:04 PM |
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Was he living by it when he was a heroin addict? |
Freddie Stubbs |
Feb-05-09 07:50 AM |
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Exactly! |
Ganja Ninja |
Feb-04-09 02:04 PM |
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HHS Division of Vaccine Injury Compensation (DVIC): "mercury-containing vaccines" cause autism. |
bottomtheweaver |
Feb-04-09 02:23 PM |
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"features consistent with autism spectrum disorder." |
HiFructosePronSyrup |
Feb-04-09 02:28 PM |
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I'm embarrassed for you. |
bottomtheweaver |
Feb-04-09 02:29 PM |
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I'm not the one making a fool of myself. |
HiFructosePronSyrup |
Feb-04-09 02:32 PM |
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Just a quick note.... |
WriteDown |
Feb-04-09 03:38 PM |
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