Freddie Stubbs
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| 124. False premise: The whole world isn't rioting |
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No riots in Germany.
No riots in Japan.
No riots in Canada.
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| -The Whole World Is Rioting as the Economic Crisis Worsens -- Why Aren't We? |
Orwellian_Ghost |
Feb-03-09 06:17 PM |
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Obama is a god. He'll fix everything by the end of January. |
RC |
Feb-03-09 06:21 PM |
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And if he doesn't, he's a failure... |
BlooInBloo |
Feb-04-09 09:34 PM |
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so what if that were true? |
Two Americas |
Feb-04-09 09:37 PM |
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Ummm... The same difference it would make when supporters deny it? |
BlooInBloo |
Feb-04-09 09:40 PM |
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not quite |
Two Americas |
Feb-04-09 09:53 PM |
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(facepalm) |
BlooInBloo |
Feb-04-09 09:57 PM |
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you misunderstood |
Two Americas |
Feb-04-09 10:03 PM |
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Oh give it up already,.. |
Peacetrain |
Feb-05-09 08:10 AM |
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The whole entire world? Does that include Britain, France and Germany? |
KittyWampus |
Feb-03-09 06:21 PM |
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Millions protested in France last week |
Spider Jerusalem |
Feb-03-09 06:27 PM |
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Protest is very different than riot. |
KittyWampus |
Feb-03-09 06:30 PM |
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Very different, yet peaceful protest may become violent rioting if conditions continue to worsen... |
Spider Jerusalem |
Feb-03-09 06:32 PM |
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Yet, neither one is happening here. |
bobbolink |
Feb-07-09 12:13 PM |
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exactly, nt |
maryf |
Feb-07-09 04:27 PM |
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Offhand, I'd say the country's too damn big and we're too isolated |
Warpy |
Feb-03-09 06:22 PM |
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That's big part of the problem. |
blues90 |
Feb-03-09 06:54 PM |
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very true your last comment, when a person has nothing to lose |
bdamomma |
Feb-04-09 09:21 PM |
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Just wait until the nature of the 'sacrifices' become evident. |
blindpig |
Feb-06-09 10:38 AM |
#125 |
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It's only the scum who are being sacrificed. no big deal. Hell, the DU "progressives" have even |
bobbolink |
Feb-07-09 12:16 PM |
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Great question. Not sure: Our rage is different? |
Mike 03 |
Feb-03-09 06:24 PM |
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the 'whole world' ? |
grantcart |
Feb-03-09 06:24 PM |
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Baaa baaa baaa |
tularetom |
Feb-03-09 06:25 PM |
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Too heavily medicated,indoctrinated and domesticated. |
conscious evolution |
Feb-03-09 06:32 PM |
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We are, and we also fail to recognize that all sheep share a common destiny. n/t |
Greyhound |
Feb-04-09 05:43 PM |
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Hey, mutton is tasty and there's a free wool overcoat in there too! |
Deja Q |
Feb-04-09 06:53 PM |
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Our wool isn't what it used to be, I guess. n/t |
Greyhound |
Feb-04-09 11:09 PM |
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So get out there and riot, mutton boy. nt |
Occam Bandage |
Feb-04-09 08:29 PM |
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. |
SammyWinstonJack |
Feb-05-09 11:35 AM |
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Ooh, I guess he told you... |
Greyhound |
Feb-04-09 11:08 PM |
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You're the one on the net, dude nt |
Dreamer Tatum |
Feb-04-09 11:09 PM |
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American Idol is getting good now. |
Bluebear |
Feb-03-09 06:27 PM |
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Exactly- I have 3 MXC's on TiVo that I haven't watched yet |
underpants |
Feb-04-09 06:15 PM |
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Didn't we use an election to express how we felt? n/t |
cynatnite |
Feb-03-09 06:28 PM |
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what an election every 4 years do you see those in the Congress |
bdamomma |
Feb-04-09 09:25 PM |
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one small component |
Two Americas |
Feb-04-09 09:42 PM |
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And there are NOT elections in Europe? |
bobbolink |
Feb-07-09 12:14 PM |
#137 |
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Give it time....give it time..(NT) |
Owlet |
Feb-03-09 06:28 PM |
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TV told me not to. n/t |
ColbertWatcher |
Feb-03-09 06:28 PM |
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What good would that do?? |
HeresyLives |
Feb-03-09 06:29 PM |
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Too much trust in "leaders" |
Orwellian_Ghost |
Feb-04-09 06:37 AM |
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"if they could fix it, they certainly would". Why do you believe that? |
Greyhound |
Feb-04-09 05:47 PM |
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You don't really believe that do you? |
SammyWinstonJack |
Feb-05-09 11:41 AM |
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America is a land of green pastures...just ask the general population |
MetaTrope |
Feb-03-09 06:29 PM |
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Rioting conflicts with our self image of being a "free people." |
EmeraldCityGrl |
Feb-03-09 06:32 PM |
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I doubt that the masses will ever wake up to that fact |
Lorien |
Feb-03-09 07:06 PM |
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Here's the problem I have... |
chrisa |
Feb-04-09 07:23 PM |
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Corporations took over during WWII. Ike warned us about them but no one listened. nt |
cabluedem |
Feb-05-09 04:03 AM |
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I think a lot of people are quite awake. |
blindpig |
Feb-06-09 11:28 AM |
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More entertainments & distractions than elsewhere |
Voice for Peace |
Feb-03-09 06:34 PM |
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We should have revolted when Bush was in office |
BirminghamExaminer |
Feb-03-09 06:36 PM |
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I'm Curous |
NeedleCast |
Feb-03-09 06:39 PM |
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Americans have always tended toward moderation on both ends. |
Zynx |
Feb-03-09 07:00 PM |
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So uhm did we end segregation by our vote? ...or did we protest and in some cases riot? |
L0oniX |
Feb-03-09 07:01 PM |
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Good point. We did a lot of rioting for civil rights to be enforced, and we did |
Greyhound |
Feb-04-09 05:51 PM |
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MLK advocated nonviolence. |
chrisa |
Feb-05-09 12:57 PM |
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In the EU the government is afraid of the people. In the US the people are |
Lorien |
Feb-03-09 07:03 PM |
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Perhaps Americans don't want to be called thugs |
KakistocracyHater |
Feb-03-09 07:05 PM |
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We've had protests going on here.. |
stillcool |
Feb-03-09 07:34 PM |
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When it does begin in earnest the corporate media will keep a lid on the news as long as possible. |
balantz |
Feb-04-09 05:17 PM |
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Watch when it starts warming up |
Donnachaidh |
Feb-04-09 05:26 PM |
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It won't be pretty n/t |
balantz |
Feb-04-09 05:40 PM |
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It is also illegal to do in most northern states from Oct-Mar |
CatholicEdHead |
Feb-04-09 09:57 PM |
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Sorry...can't make it: American Idol is on tonight... |
Duke Newcombe |
Feb-04-09 05:25 PM |
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we are cowards. |
leftofthedial |
Feb-04-09 05:26 PM |
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And/or well controlled and conditioned sheep, yes. nt |
cabluedem |
Feb-04-09 06:51 PM |
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Pretty much. |
Fire1 |
Feb-04-09 09:16 PM |
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Not controlled. WE ARE COWARDS. Face it for once. |
tomreedtoon |
Feb-04-09 11:32 PM |
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I did not disagree with Americans being cowards, but we are also "fat & fed" sheep as well. nt |
cabluedem |
Feb-05-09 03:48 AM |
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Pretty much. |
Fire1 |
Feb-04-09 09:13 PM |
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my husband who is not American calls us |
bdamomma |
Feb-04-09 09:22 PM |
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because we're civilized and understand the way to act in modern society is not violent rioting. n/t |
crimsonblue |
Feb-04-09 05:26 PM |
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Most people genuinely are. |
Deja Q |
Feb-04-09 06:55 PM |
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The biggest problem? No unions. |
nichomachus |
Feb-04-09 05:28 PM |
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Actually that is very accurate |
underpants |
Feb-04-09 06:14 PM |
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Agree, except... |
sad sally |
Feb-05-09 03:22 PM |
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We're too fat. |
cottonseed |
Feb-04-09 05:29 PM |
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and lazy.... |
4dsc |
Feb-04-09 09:11 PM |
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we have too many toys, when they take that away we will wake up. |
bdamomma |
Feb-04-09 09:28 PM |
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You go first. |
zagging |
Feb-04-09 05:46 PM |
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We are. End of story |
Johonny |
Feb-04-09 05:50 PM |
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Smaller countries do not have the reserves we have to cushion the blow. Unless |
rhett o rick |
Feb-04-09 05:55 PM |
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the vast majority of people are still gainfully employed? |
dysfunctional press |
Feb-04-09 05:57 PM |
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Gainfully employed 2009= Lower wages/salery, crappy healthcare plans and no job security at all. nt |
cabluedem |
Feb-05-09 04:14 AM |
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not everyone. |
dysfunctional press |
Feb-05-09 10:31 AM |
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Thats part of the problem. Some are still doing well so they simply dont care. nt |
cabluedem |
Feb-05-09 12:35 PM |
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what are they supposed to do...? |
dysfunctional press |
Feb-05-09 12:50 PM |
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Call their reps before their cushy jobs are gone as well? nt |
cabluedem |
Feb-05-09 01:29 PM |
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and tell them what, exactly? |
dysfunctional press |
Feb-05-09 03:07 PM |
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Winner over here!!! When there are more unemployed than |
Fire1 |
Feb-05-09 12:55 PM |
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cuz we now have "hope" |
natrat |
Feb-04-09 05:59 PM |
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Give me an orgasm and I'll live like a pauper with ya forever. |
Deja Q |
Feb-04-09 06:55 PM |
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How can we have hope when businesses are closing and jobs still outsourced, & prices rising ? |
cabluedem |
Feb-04-09 07:25 PM |
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I "hope" you are right. nt |
cabluedem |
Feb-05-09 01:35 PM |
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This stuff hasn't gotten very bad.. |
sendero |
Feb-04-09 06:07 PM |
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Bingo! They dont see it until one of thier own gets the shaft/axe at work. nt |
cabluedem |
Feb-04-09 07:32 PM |
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My call - Wait until Spring in CA - I think if they don't get it together in D.C. by then watch out! |
1776Forever |
Feb-04-09 06:20 PM |
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Set an example - go out and riot. Others will surely join in. |
Deja Q |
Feb-04-09 06:52 PM |
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We just had a peaceful revolution |
Mme. Defarge |
Feb-04-09 06:54 PM |
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Bullshit |
Lilith Velkor |
Feb-04-09 11:14 PM |
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Good point. Not liking what I read and watch either. Better then McCain, I expect. nt |
cabluedem |
Feb-05-09 12:40 PM |
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Rioting doesn't make you "tough." |
chrisa |
Feb-04-09 07:16 PM |
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Ah yes, American exceptionalism. |
MattSh |
Feb-05-09 11:06 AM |
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It's not a question of "better." |
chrisa |
Feb-05-09 12:43 PM |
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We've been dumbed down and made passive by school system and TV |
lostnfound |
Feb-04-09 08:15 PM |
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Yep - I used to say it was the trifecta that kept us stupid and passive - religion,schools and TV - |
kath |
Feb-04-09 08:58 PM |
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How do I repress thee? Let me count the ways. |
skids |
Feb-04-09 08:26 PM |
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This deserves it's own OP. Succinct and 100% TRUE |
tom_paine |
Feb-04-09 08:29 PM |
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Grab a baseball bat and riot if you think it's a good idea. |
Occam Bandage |
Feb-04-09 08:29 PM |
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Nobody's demanding anything |
Orwellian_Ghost |
Feb-04-09 09:33 PM |
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The OP does not refer to "simply asking questions." It asks why we aren't rioting. |
Occam Bandage |
Feb-04-09 10:36 PM |
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the main reason |
Two Americas |
Feb-04-09 09:49 PM |
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I think it's much deeper than that. Our "RUGGED INDIVIDUALISM" keeps us separated |
bobbolink |
Feb-07-09 12:20 PM |
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Damn, Two Americas. You always nail it. Well put. nt |
ProgressIn2008 |
Feb-07-09 12:48 PM |
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I for one, was expecting some relief from these new programs, but I just found out |
Waiting For Everyman |
Feb-04-09 11:27 PM |
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Americans are dumbed down and compliant sheep.They'll gladly watch Police beat protesters on TV. nt |
cabluedem |
Feb-05-09 04:23 AM |
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I saw the same in the '60s... up to a point, and what people snapped over was surprising. |
Waiting For Everyman |
Feb-05-09 07:57 AM |
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Good story about the past. I hope we reach the tipping point soon else I am not sure we ever will. |
cabluedem |
Feb-05-09 12:24 PM |
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Thanks, calbluedem! |
Waiting For Everyman |
Feb-05-09 04:27 PM |
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because we operate from a victim mentality now... |
marions ghost |
Feb-05-09 05:35 AM |
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and we do have the "power" if we just realize and use it. |
bdamomma |
Feb-05-09 10:45 AM |
#100 |
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yes |
marions ghost |
Feb-05-09 11:29 AM |
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Because it's stupid and accomplishes nothing. n/t |
Cessna Invesco Palin |
Feb-05-09 08:03 AM |
#94 |
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Thank you! |
chrisa |
Feb-05-09 08:34 AM |
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Chill out, we had a gazillion effective demonstrations here in the '60s, and very few were violent. |
Waiting For Everyman |
Feb-05-09 03:29 PM |
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It's just that. |
chrisa |
Feb-05-09 06:11 PM |
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So your objection is not that anyone DOES it, but merely expressing it, |
Waiting For Everyman |
Feb-05-09 08:57 PM |
#121 |
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My problem is the ideas of this thread in the first place. |
chrisa |
Feb-06-09 10:09 AM |
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this is what our media doesn't even tell us. |
bdamomma |
Feb-05-09 10:38 AM |
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Because most Americans are scared, and think they can just pray away their problems. |
krabigirl |
Feb-05-09 10:39 AM |
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Brainwashed by the media and, up to now, too fat and dumb to strike out in protest, yes. nt |
cabluedem |
Feb-05-09 12:27 PM |
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Because America is ultimately to blame for the world's problems |
Jennicut |
Feb-05-09 12:40 PM |
#109 |
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Americans FEAR their government. |
Kansas Wyatt |
Feb-06-09 10:22 AM |
#123 |
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Nobody here is afraid of the government. |
chrisa |
Feb-06-09 03:49 PM |
#129 |
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People are afraid of losing everything they have worked for |
Kansas Wyatt |
Feb-06-09 04:04 PM |
#130 |
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That may be true, but... |
chrisa |
Feb-06-09 07:02 PM |
#131 |
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Not for just speaking out, BUT |
Kansas Wyatt |
Feb-06-09 09:07 PM |
#133 |
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Don't break the law. |
chrisa |
Feb-07-09 12:02 PM |
#134 |
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I gave you the other option, if you weren't comfortable rioting. |
Kansas Wyatt |
Feb-07-09 12:40 PM |
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False premise: The whole world isn't rioting |
Freddie Stubbs |
Feb-06-09 10:31 AM |
#124 |
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Rioting is overrated. Protesting "against" the bad economy is pointless; |
LeftinOH |
Feb-06-09 10:41 AM |
#126 |
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There's no justification for rioting. |
chrisa |
Feb-06-09 07:07 PM |
#132 |
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Well, who is organizing the riot, sending out the invites and so forth? |
TayTay |
Feb-06-09 10:54 AM |
#127 |
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Go back to bed America - your government is in control. |
Initech |
Feb-07-09 12:10 PM |
#135 |
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That quote from Sicko comes to mind: in France, the government is afraid of the people |
ProgressIn2008 |
Feb-07-09 12:46 PM |
#141 |
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I find the notion offensive that. |
chrisa |
Feb-08-09 10:32 AM |
#144 |
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Oh, right. France doesn't HAVE elections. The French don't vote. |
bobbolink |
Feb-08-09 04:05 PM |
#145 |
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Where did I say that? n/t |
chrisa |
Feb-08-09 09:56 PM |
#147 |
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Roiting doesn't seem to matter in America |
Juche |
Feb-08-09 04:15 PM |
#146 |
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agree. Remember the protest before the Iraq war started... they occured across the country. |
Liberal_in_LA |
Feb-08-09 10:00 PM |
#148 |
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I was thinking about the Iraq war protests when I wrote that |
Juche |
Feb-08-09 10:19 PM |
#149 |
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Can the rioting wait until this new season of Lost is over? |
Baikonour |
Feb-08-09 10:45 PM |
#150 |
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Simply put--it hasn't hit most of us yet |
ecstatic |
Feb-08-09 10:59 PM |
#151 |
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