shari
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Tue Feb-03-09 02:47 AM
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| 19. The employer is not the one taking and doing my job and getting my wages |
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the immigrant is....the employer just makes it easy for him to do it. Convenient for the employer and the immigrant...not so convenient for the person losing their job.
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| -Panic among H-1B visa layoffs |
Liberal_in_LA |
Feb-03-09 01:31 AM |
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Are they leaving on corporate jets |
Why Syzygy |
Feb-03-09 01:34 AM |
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Yes, you get issued a corporate jet with your visa. |
Cessna Invesco Palin |
Feb-03-09 09:10 AM |
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The visa situation |
Why Syzygy |
Feb-03-09 09:33 AM |
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bye bye |
Skittles |
Feb-03-09 01:34 AM |
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Agreed, SHOULD NOT HIRE ANY OF THEM AT THE MOMENT |
Ioo |
Feb-03-09 09:21 AM |
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Hmm. What are they supposed to do, then? |
lightningandsnow |
Feb-03-09 12:30 PM |
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Cry me a river. |
Hello_Kitty |
Feb-03-09 01:39 AM |
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Lot of harsh replies here.... |
catnhatnh |
Feb-03-09 01:55 AM |
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I wonder |
shari |
Feb-03-09 02:09 AM |
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Again, identify the players and the teams.... |
catnhatnh |
Feb-03-09 02:15 AM |
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Exactly! |
Raksha |
Feb-03-09 02:18 AM |
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Re-reading my posts it sounds very Zen... |
catnhatnh |
Feb-03-09 02:22 AM |
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Or, perhaps, it just sounds very detached, |
QC |
Feb-03-09 09:24 AM |
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money. |
shari |
Feb-03-09 02:22 AM |
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Two have been hurt. |
catnhatnh |
Feb-03-09 02:25 AM |
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what you said. |
Hannah Bell |
Feb-03-09 02:27 AM |
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Thank you! |
Chulanowa |
Feb-03-09 02:26 AM |
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so you think they were 'tricked' |
shari |
Feb-03-09 02:33 AM |
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Actually I said they were "enticed" into obeying an economic imperative... |
catnhatnh |
Feb-03-09 02:45 AM |
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so..do I understand you correctly |
shari |
Feb-03-09 03:00 AM |
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But, |
Why Syzygy |
Feb-03-09 03:07 AM |
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Feb-03-09 04:45 AM |
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American money buys a lot of detergent in India |
Chulanowa |
Feb-03-09 05:15 AM |
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We get it. It's the bosses fault. |
Hello_Kitty |
Feb-03-09 10:56 AM |
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Because the "enticee" wants to eat... |
catnhatnh |
Feb-03-09 03:16 AM |
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And what..... |
shari |
Feb-03-09 03:18 AM |
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Don't you know that nonAmericans are supposed to starve themselves |
treestar |
Feb-03-09 04:46 AM |
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And don't you know that Americans are supposed to cheerfully step aside |
Hello_Kitty |
Feb-03-09 10:45 AM |
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No, I don't |
Chulanowa |
Feb-03-09 05:04 AM |
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We should also be angry at so-called progressives who are cheap labor shills |
Hello_Kitty |
Feb-03-09 01:47 PM |
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I agree 100% with what you say |
Hello_Kitty |
Feb-03-09 02:34 AM |
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You're pro-labor? |
Why Syzygy |
Feb-03-09 02:46 AM |
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I am indeed |
Chulanowa |
Feb-03-09 04:58 AM |
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The employer is not the one taking and doing my job and getting my wages |
shari |
Feb-03-09 02:47 AM |
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Think about what you just said. |
Chulanowa |
Feb-03-09 04:21 AM |
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India is hiring |
Skittles |
Feb-03-09 02:58 AM |
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absolutely right. |
barbtries |
Feb-03-09 04:42 AM |
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I am directing my hatred at the right people |
Hello_Kitty |
Feb-03-09 02:25 AM |
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Actually they seem no more clueless than many Americans with advanced degrees... |
catnhatnh |
Feb-03-09 02:37 AM |
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damn straight |
Skittles |
Feb-03-09 02:55 AM |
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My skills "aren't really needed" |
Why Syzygy |
Feb-03-09 02:52 AM |
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I know so many American engineers |
Skittles |
Feb-03-09 02:56 AM |
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The ones doing the 'taking of jobs' |
shari |
Feb-03-09 03:04 AM |
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Do you think their advanced degrees |
Why Syzygy |
Feb-03-09 03:09 AM |
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Actually they were more likely payed for by the U.S./state |
exboyfil |
Feb-03-09 05:01 AM |
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And so, they |
Why Syzygy |
Feb-03-09 05:08 AM |
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I'm sick of these apologists |
Skittles |
Feb-03-09 03:09 AM |
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Who let them come here.... |
catnhatnh |
Feb-03-09 03:11 AM |
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Well, |
shari |
Feb-03-09 03:16 AM |
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Well were down to it at last Shari... |
catnhatnh |
Feb-03-09 03:21 AM |
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Don't even pull that. |
shari |
Feb-03-09 03:23 AM |
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AS were the Irish, and the Italians, and the Chinese... |
catnhatnh |
Feb-03-09 03:29 AM |
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Hey I have an idea |
shari |
Feb-03-09 03:36 AM |
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Hey -I have the idea that you are a xenophobe.... |
catnhatnh |
Feb-03-09 03:44 AM |
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Sorry .to dissappoint you....I'm just a simple old American |
shari |
Feb-03-09 03:48 AM |
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This topic is not about Immigrants.... |
shari |
Feb-03-09 03:41 AM |
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You come off just like someone who never built anything. |
Waiting For Everyman |
Feb-03-09 03:50 AM |
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As if that somehow makes it ok. (hint: NOT) |
Waiting For Everyman |
Feb-03-09 03:31 AM |
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No, they're not human, according to "normal Americans"... |
BlooInBloo |
Feb-03-09 04:52 AM |
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Hatred of immigrants seems to be the exciting new pastime on DU. |
Cessna Invesco Palin |
Feb-03-09 09:11 AM |
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Show me a country that hires Americans on visas instead of their own citizens. |
TahitiNut |
Feb-03-09 11:07 AM |
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THIS is the crux of the matter. Those visas were supposed to be |
annabanana |
Feb-03-09 12:09 PM |
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And 95% of those were sheer fraud. |
TahitiNut |
Feb-03-09 12:35 PM |
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Just want to clarify terms |
GinaMaria |
Feb-03-09 01:43 PM |
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Whether or not it is the visa holder's fault... |
lumberjack_jeff |
Feb-03-09 10:23 AM |
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Our "immigration system" is little more than Trafficking In Human Labor ... |
TahitiNut |
Feb-03-09 10:54 AM |
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I am an American living in a foreign country employed by a foreign government |
davidpdx |
Feb-03-09 04:39 AM |
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Shame on you for such a rational post. That's not acceptable when you're |
acmavm |
Feb-03-09 04:54 AM |
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I feel sorry for them too. |
Cessna Invesco Palin |
Feb-03-09 09:16 AM |
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Thank you!!!!! |
bunnies |
Feb-03-09 10:08 AM |
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Well, that should make "normal Americans" very happy. |
BlooInBloo |
Feb-03-09 04:50 AM |
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Feb-03-09 04:56 AM |
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I'm glad they're going |
Divine Discontent |
Feb-03-09 05:08 AM |
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Feb-03-09 05:38 AM |
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"For any who want to see just how shitty Americans are." That's written like you're not an American. |
Divine Discontent |
Feb-03-09 06:37 AM |
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HAHAHAHA!!!!! |
BlooInBloo |
Feb-03-09 06:38 AM |
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You're unbelievable. |
girl gone mad |
Feb-03-09 12:26 PM |
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How shitty Americans are, WTF is wrong with you? |
DainBramaged |
Feb-03-09 08:23 AM |
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Hush. I'm busy holding on to my visa. |
BlooInBloo |
Feb-03-09 08:46 AM |
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I have to wonder what the reaction would be if |
lukasahero |
Feb-03-09 12:27 PM |
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And I suppose we have to pay their way home? |
lonestarnot |
Feb-03-09 06:31 AM |
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I assume they knew the terms when they signed up for the visas. |
bunnies |
Feb-03-09 06:51 AM |
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Everyone knows there is a risk when taking a job - do we then lack sympathy for the unemployed? |
stray cat |
Feb-03-09 07:42 AM |
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You're joking, right? |
bunnies |
Feb-03-09 08:15 AM |
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Only regular 'murikkkans matter. The sooner you learn that, the more you'll appreciate DU. |
BlooInBloo |
Feb-03-09 09:02 AM |
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Don't spout that "Citizen of the World" crap |
MicaelS |
Feb-03-09 09:14 AM |
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Feb-03-09 09:40 AM |
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I see he's still busy championing cheap labor at the expense of 'shitty unintelligent' Americans |
Divine Discontent |
Feb-03-09 01:45 PM |
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If they want the kind of empathy I give americans. |
lumberjack_jeff |
Feb-03-09 10:18 AM |
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I have NO sympathy for them, and the faster they leave, the sooner |
DainBramaged |
Feb-03-09 08:15 AM |
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Well, this is pretty much what happened to me. |
Cessna Invesco Palin |
Feb-03-09 09:08 AM |
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It's sad to me that many people are losing their jobs... |
LanternWaste |
Feb-03-09 09:11 AM |
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Those "imaginary" lines are how we achieve SELF-GOVERNANCE. |
TahitiNut |
Feb-03-09 11:20 AM |
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I'm not going to deny my sympathy for people... |
LanternWaste |
Feb-03-09 12:06 PM |
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That's a tough situation--hard to pack up and leave if you've spent |
TwilightGardener |
Feb-03-09 09:20 AM |
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I was a year away from being able to apply for permanent residency... |
Cessna Invesco Palin |
Feb-03-09 09:22 AM |
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Yes, the "don't let the door hit ya" attitude is uncalled for. |
TwilightGardener |
Feb-03-09 09:27 AM |
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Nope. |
Cessna Invesco Palin |
Feb-03-09 09:35 AM |
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Betcha won't be making that mistake again. |
BlooInBloo |
Feb-03-09 10:11 AM |
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Whatever |
Hello_Kitty |
Feb-03-09 11:00 AM |
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Yikes. You are a seething cauldron of anger. Some of us feel natural |
TwilightGardener |
Feb-03-09 11:16 AM |
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Feb-03-09 11:33 AM |
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Well, I have natural human sympathy for you too--and for anyone |
TwilightGardener |
Feb-03-09 11:53 AM |
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After you called me a "seething cauldron of anger" |
Hello_Kitty |
Feb-03-09 12:02 PM |
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thank you for stating that so well |
La Lioness Priyanka |
Feb-03-09 01:06 PM |
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Did you not understand the rules? |
Hello_Kitty |
Feb-03-09 11:13 AM |
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Did you actually read my post? |
Cessna Invesco Palin |
Feb-03-09 11:31 AM |
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I've lived in Japan and Canada |
Hello_Kitty |
Feb-03-09 11:44 AM |
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Good. I just laid off 8 people 70 miles from the SV yesterday. |
Xithras |
Feb-03-09 10:22 AM |
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There hasn't been a real labor shortage since shortly after the Black Plague |
Hello_Kitty |
Feb-03-09 12:45 PM |
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. |
LoZoccolo |
Feb-03-09 12:13 PM |
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No sympathy here... |
butterfly77 |
Feb-03-09 12:23 PM |
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Wow. How many recent immigrants do you know? |
lightningandsnow |
Feb-03-09 12:30 PM |
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You have to love the "logic," too. |
Starbucks Anarchist |
Feb-03-09 01:11 PM |
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you cant even get that kind of visa w.out a bachelors degree. |
La Lioness Priyanka |
Feb-03-09 01:33 PM |
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No empathy here... |
butterfly77 |
Feb-03-09 02:20 PM |
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No sympathy here... |
butterfly77 |
Feb-03-09 02:17 PM |
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WTF are you talking about? |
Starbucks Anarchist |
Feb-03-09 12:56 PM |
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One of them asked if my dentist was black when they were looking for one themselves. |
LoZoccolo |
Feb-03-09 12:56 PM |
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Exactly... |
butterfly77 |
Feb-03-09 02:19 PM |
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Wow. The thinly veiled racism on this thread is overwhelming. |
lightningandsnow |
Feb-03-09 12:32 PM |
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Lame. n/t |
LoZoccolo |
Feb-03-09 12:43 PM |
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Feb-03-09 01:08 PM |
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Any criticism of the cheap labor lobby at all gets you labeled a xenophobe by some here |
Hello_Kitty |
Feb-03-09 12:51 PM |
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I think they're just insecure themselves. |
LoZoccolo |
Feb-03-09 01:00 PM |
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I've noticed that! |
Raksha |
Feb-03-09 01:28 PM |
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Yeah, they don't hide it very well. |
Hello_Kitty |
Feb-03-09 01:35 PM |
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"Thinly veiled"? Seriously, you call this 'thinly veiled'? |
lukasahero |
Feb-03-09 12:51 PM |
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You are, of course, going to give up your job for one of the H1B visa holders |
Hello_Kitty |
Feb-03-09 12:54 PM |
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No, the "citizens of the world" are always giving away YOUR job, never their own. |
Romulox |
Feb-03-09 01:03 PM |
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I work with several |
lukasahero |
Feb-03-09 01:30 PM |
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So I guess the answer is no. |
Hello_Kitty |
Feb-03-09 01:32 PM |
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whatever |
lukasahero |
Feb-03-09 01:41 PM |
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You're competing in a race to the bottom. |
Hello_Kitty |
Feb-03-09 01:43 PM |
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H1-B's are NOT immigrants. |
Xithras |
Feb-03-09 12:59 PM |
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I think it's deeply ironic that the individuals cited in the article are from an upper-class family |
TahitiNut |
Feb-03-09 01:17 PM |
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thank you for a very informative post TahitiNut! |
Divine Discontent |
Feb-03-09 01:33 PM |
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sikhs are neither upper nor lower caste. sikhism has no caste. shows what you know. |
La Lioness Priyanka |
Feb-03-09 01:34 PM |
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TahitiNut never claimed that Sikhs were upper caste |
Hello_Kitty |
Feb-03-09 01:38 PM |
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they are overqualified for my job. you do know that they have to be qualified, yes? |
La Lioness Priyanka |
Feb-03-09 01:44 PM |
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Try arguing with something I actually SAID instead of some imbecilic straw man. |
TahitiNut |
Feb-03-09 01:41 PM |
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sikhism doesnt recognize caste, sikhism venerate warriors not just kshatriyas |
La Lioness Priyanka |
Feb-03-09 01:54 PM |
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Again, you seem inclined to argue with me about things I have NOT said. |
TahitiNut |
Feb-03-09 02:14 PM |
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I'm afraid you are mistaken |
lukasahero |
Feb-03-09 01:38 PM |
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It's not supposed to be a foot in the door |
Hello_Kitty |
Feb-03-09 01:42 PM |
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Oh my heart goes out to them.... NOT |
Sebastian Doyle |
Feb-03-09 12:48 PM |
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Sympathizers, ask yourself, what Foreign Country would grant us the same work privileges |
DainBramaged |
Feb-03-09 01:50 PM |
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Locking |
cbayer |
Feb-03-09 02:22 PM |
#148 |
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