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53. It's all Clintons fault
Bite yourself now!
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  -Does it gall anyone else? kentuck  Feb-01-09 02:35 PM   #0 
  - That's "economic royalists."  Captain Hilts   Feb-01-09 02:40 PM   #1 
  - No, Not at All  On the Road   Feb-01-09 02:48 PM   #2 
  - Of course, we have to believe the premise made by the bankers...  kentuck   Feb-01-09 02:53 PM   #3 
  - You Don't Have to Take Their Word for It  On the Road   Feb-02-09 10:17 AM   #80 
  - Why not, instead, give the bail-out money to the responsible banks,  Joe Chi Minh   Feb-02-09 10:29 AM   #81 
  - Unfortunately,  On the Road   Feb-02-09 11:23 AM   #83 
     - Shame the public didn't continue to benefit. Blue-chip oufits, the banks always seem to have been  Joe Chi Minh   Feb-02-09 01:02 PM   #98 
  - I have an elderly friend whose entire savings of less than $100,000  JDPriestly   Feb-02-09 02:20 PM   #110 
  - "why would they lie to us"  bkkyosemite   Feb-02-09 02:23 PM   #111 
  - It bothers me big time  4 t 4   Feb-01-09 03:05 PM   #5 
  - Now calm down. After all, Kucinich had his staff  truedelphi   Feb-01-09 06:36 PM   #65 
  - It Bothers Me a Lot, Too  On the Road   Feb-02-09 10:56 AM   #82 
  - So you think it has worked ?  4 t 4   Feb-01-09 05:14 PM   #54 
  - The Part That Worked  On the Road   Feb-02-09 09:20 AM   #78 
     - asking around on some stock boards  Truth2Tell   Feb-02-09 12:15 PM   #85 
     - I Was Asking Around for a Chart  On the Road   Feb-03-09 10:36 AM   #124 
     - When you bail out companies, you OWN them. Let's just NATIONALIZE them . . .  defendandprotect   Feb-02-09 01:06 PM   #100 
     - Yes Nationalize them and Arrest the Thieves!  Riverman   Feb-02-09 03:29 PM   #115 
     - TARP delayed the damage, but it did not help the fundamentals  JDPriestly   Feb-02-09 02:42 PM   #112 
        - I Believe I Understand Where You're Coming From  On the Road   Feb-03-09 10:59 AM   #125 
           - Thanks for the thoughtful answer.  JDPriestly   Feb-03-09 01:34 PM   #127 
              - And Thank You for the Thoughtful Post  On the Road   Feb-03-09 05:39 PM   #128 
  - Please get an education. Paulson is the problem. Greenspan, Bernacke are the problem  truedelphi   Feb-01-09 06:32 PM   #64 
  - Rubin and Summers fought like hell to keep derivitives from being regulated  Wiley50   Feb-02-09 12:53 PM   #95 
  - BIG corporate-influence problem . . .  defendandprotect   Feb-02-09 01:03 PM   #99 
  - Great post and everyone should read it---!!! And believe it --!!!  defendandprotect   Feb-02-09 01:08 PM   #101 
  - The whole economy was taken down -- and the bailouts are the kill-shot.  JackRiddler   Feb-01-09 10:27 PM   #70 
  - NATIONALIZE the banks . . . our Treasury has been bankrupted . ..  defendandprotect   Feb-02-09 12:52 PM   #93 
  - I don't have the gall to believe ...  GeorgeGist   Feb-02-09 04:31 AM   #76 
  - I promise you  Still Sensible   Feb-01-09 02:57 PM   #4 
  - Banks fail everyday...  kentuck   Feb-01-09 03:14 PM   #8 
  - But not all at once  Still Sensible   Feb-01-09 03:43 PM   #21 
  - Why do you think all the banks would fail at once??  kentuck   Feb-01-09 03:59 PM   #34 
     - I am all for cutting out the bonuses and other shenanigans  Still Sensible   Feb-01-09 04:06 PM   #39 
     - Oh, the problem was real...  kentuck   Feb-01-09 04:12 PM   #42 
     - The banks are all connected. That's the problem.  JDPriestly   Feb-02-09 03:49 PM   #119 
        - Just as Obama said...  kentuck   Feb-03-09 11:02 AM   #126 
  - No ... government insurance is intended to cover the unexpected/the ONE theft . . .  defendandprotect   Feb-02-09 01:10 PM   #102 
  - So tell us, just what would happen in your estimation? n/t  Greyhound   Feb-01-09 04:15 PM   #45 
  - And can you telll us which have  4 t 4   Feb-01-09 05:19 PM   #56 
  - Not if we nationalize the banks -- as we should also do with any auto company that fails ---  defendandprotect   Feb-02-09 12:53 PM   #94 
  - My Libertarian attorney spouse just informed me that NYT and others have been WRONG saying that  patrice   Feb-01-09 03:10 PM   #6 
  - That's like saying...  kentuck   Feb-01-09 03:16 PM   #9 
  - My Paul says it's about contracts and whether they are honored or not. If they aren't, there would  patrice   Feb-01-09 03:22 PM   #11 
  - Contractual law? What kind of swill are you trying to feed us?  Jim Sagle   Feb-02-09 12:34 AM   #74 
  - The 'contracts' were dirty in the first place. Not only did they loan  acmavm   Feb-02-09 12:32 PM   #86 
  - Hey, the constitution isn't honored! Nothing is honored now except honor among thieves! nt  valerief   Feb-02-09 12:39 PM   #91 
  - As I said above, when companies are bankrupt, contracts are only  JDPriestly   Feb-02-09 04:08 PM   #122 
  - Your point is made, though, what we have here are Business leaders who were hooked  patrice   Feb-01-09 03:26 PM   #13 
  - Exactly. The purchasers of these contracts had a due diligence responsibility - we are  terisan   Feb-01-09 03:58 PM   #33 
  - I tend to agree with your premise.  kentuck   Feb-01-09 04:01 PM   #37 
     - True. Please keep posting on how to do it-you have good ideas.(and forgive my rage)  terisan   Feb-01-09 04:05 PM   #38 
     - Of course they survived.  wolfgangmo   Feb-02-09 03:21 PM   #113 
  - That's how I read that, too! nt  valerief   Feb-02-09 12:38 PM   #90 
  - NATIONALIZING the banks is the answer -- not printing money to bail out corrupt capitalism!!  defendandprotect   Feb-02-09 12:54 PM   #96 
  - I disagree with your husband.  JDPriestly   Feb-02-09 04:06 PM   #121 
  - I have similar thought's about it.  blues90   Feb-01-09 03:12 PM   #7 
  - And we don't want to admit it...  kentuck   Feb-01-09 03:18 PM   #10 
  - I find it amazing how really stupid most of them are  az chela   Feb-01-09 03:37 PM   #17 
  - I don't think it's that our congress critters are stupid. We are asking them to make  bertman   Feb-01-09 09:26 PM   #69 
  - That's like saying that Bush/Cheney were dumb . . .  defendandprotect   Feb-02-09 12:57 PM   #97 
  - "(it) was the war that took us out of the depression"  ColbertWatcher   Feb-01-09 03:48 PM   #24 
  - No, but only for the same reason Paul Krugman is giving, that the alternative is  Mike 03   Feb-01-09 03:24 PM   #12 
  - Yes, a country that has no expectation that contracts will be honored CAN'T do business.  patrice   Feb-01-09 03:33 PM   #14 
  - Well, you are definitely bringing up some crucial issues that matter a lot  Mike 03   Feb-01-09 03:38 PM   #18 
  - Does make me think of that one cartoon that you see around: Two guys holding guns to each  patrice   Feb-01-09 03:35 PM   #16 
     - LOL. That is a cartoon I could appreciate. They say if something  Mike 03   Feb-01-09 03:51 PM   #26 
  - As USUAL KENTUCK YOU ARE RIGHT ON!!!!  az chela   Feb-01-09 03:35 PM   #15 
  - They are trying to avoid bank failures and bank runs.  Mike 03   Feb-01-09 03:41 PM   #19 
  - My repubican brother started a bank a few years ago, with a dozen other investors,  bahrbearian   Feb-01-09 03:42 PM   #20 
  - but again the most simple question to me is  4 t 4   Feb-01-09 03:47 PM   #23 
  - And do we, as taxpayers, have a right to know ...?  kentuck   Feb-01-09 03:53 PM   #27 
  - RE: your republican brother  wolfgangmo   Feb-02-09 03:25 PM   #114 
  - Kick and Rec, too. This is a great topic and discussion. NT.  Mike 03   Feb-01-09 03:44 PM   #22 
  - We should bail them out but slam them with regulations out the wazoo  Sarah Ibarruri   Feb-01-09 03:50 PM   #25 
  - Yup. And take away the executives' money.  BlooInBloo   Feb-01-09 03:53 PM   #28 
  - Absolutely! That would be the only fair thing to do. They're trash. nt  Sarah Ibarruri   Feb-01-09 03:55 PM   #29 
  - We did that after the Great Depression...  kentuck   Feb-01-09 03:55 PM   #30 
  - And it worked well - until they removed the regulations in the 70s and 80s...  BlooInBloo   Feb-01-09 03:56 PM   #31 
  - Exactly! nt  Sarah Ibarruri   Feb-01-09 04:13 PM   #43 
  - Oh they didn't get around the regulations. Nixon, Reagan, and the other shitheads removed the regs  Sarah Ibarruri   Feb-01-09 03:56 PM   #32 
  - Phil Gramm was the father of it all.  BlooInBloo   Feb-01-09 04:14 PM   #44 
  - No... they got deregulation by "buying government" and legislators . . .  defendandprotect   Feb-02-09 12:37 PM   #89 
  - That's right. Nothing's free. nt  Captain Hilts   Feb-01-09 04:08 PM   #40 
  - These Senators are ALSO part of the wealthy class. Each is worth $1.7M, on average.  closeupready   Feb-01-09 03:59 PM   #35 
  - Right . . . we're electing ELITES in hopes of their doing the right thing for the masses . . . !!!  defendandprotect   Feb-02-09 12:39 PM   #92 
     - Yes, and it will get worse over time.  closeupready   Feb-02-09 04:01 PM   #120 
  - Wall Street was a big contributor to Obama's campaign and to the inaugural.  EFerrari   Feb-01-09 04:00 PM   #36 
  - nationalize consumer banking.  dysfunctional press   Feb-01-09 04:11 PM   #41 
  - "Gall" does not even come close.  Greyhound   Feb-01-09 04:18 PM   #46 
  - FDR would not have let them go under. nt  anonymous171   Feb-01-09 04:22 PM   #47 
  - None of them?  kentuck   Feb-01-09 04:23 PM   #48 
  - Gall isn't even the word  LibraLiz1973   Feb-01-09 04:26 PM   #49 
  - What makes you think FDR would have let giant banks fail? n/t  pnwmom   Feb-01-09 05:03 PM   #50 
  - I do think he would have required an accounting for the money...  kentuck   Feb-01-09 05:08 PM   #52 
     - I agree. There is no excuse for setting up the bail-out the way with no accountability.  pnwmom   Feb-01-09 05:27 PM   #57 
  - It was Clinton and Rubin who did away with the regulations.  alarimer   Feb-01-09 05:07 PM   #51 
  - It's all Clintons fault  4 t 4   Feb-01-09 05:11 PM   #53 
  - Indeed Clinton did sign the law...  kentuck   Feb-01-09 05:14 PM   #55 
  - I expect they had the votes to override his veto. But I wish he'd vetoed it anyway.  pnwmom   Feb-01-09 05:29 PM   #58 
  - I was making a joke  4 t 4   Feb-01-09 05:57 PM   #61 
     - I have no idea what his intentions were....  kentuck   Feb-01-09 10:47 PM   #72 
  - Clinton didn't write the bill. The Republican congress did.  pnwmom   Feb-01-09 05:31 PM   #59 
  - the final version of the bill, the one Clinton signed passed the  paulk   Feb-02-09 03:30 PM   #117 
  - Very much agree with you. n/t  truedelphi   Feb-01-09 06:51 PM   #67 
  - Random house called. They are waiting for your next book of tall tales.  wolfgangmo   Feb-02-09 03:33 PM   #118 
  - Radical liberal conservative elitist democrats.  .... callchet ....   Feb-01-09 05:31 PM   #60 
  - I find it completely disgusting  Skittles   Feb-01-09 06:04 PM   #62 
  - here is a link to look over  marketcrazy1   Feb-01-09 06:13 PM   #63 
  - "This is not my Democratic Party"  Fireweed247   Feb-01-09 06:49 PM   #66 
  - Recommended. n/t  TBF   Feb-01-09 08:12 PM   #68 
  - I could retire on what a congressman makes in one year.  L0oniX   Feb-01-09 10:41 PM   #71 
  - i agree completely; K&R! n/t  inna   Feb-01-09 11:26 PM   #73 
  - Who cares? At least our President looks different.  newtothegame   Feb-02-09 01:14 AM   #75 
  - I'm beyond galled.  progressoid   Feb-02-09 08:29 AM   #77 
  - I am totally pissed off and outraged by the bank bailout.  earth mom   Feb-02-09 10:12 AM   #79 
  - So when Wall Street holds insurance against a lose their claim gets paid  plantwomyn   Feb-02-09 11:41 AM   #84 
  - Do what other nations do: NATIONALIZE banks and corporations--!!!  defendandprotect   Feb-02-09 12:32 PM   #87 
  - It bothers the hell out of me..  blossomstar   Feb-02-09 12:35 PM   #88 
  - There are no more D's and R's -  waiting for hope   Feb-02-09 01:34 PM   #103 
  - Working with Underwriters...  Beavker   Feb-02-09 01:58 PM   #104 
  - So far the first $350 billion of the bailout as demonstrated the following  whistle   Feb-02-09 02:02 PM   #105 
  - Fatal error in your argument  nichomachus   Feb-02-09 02:04 PM   #106 
  - Unfortunately largely true  Beavker   Feb-02-09 02:09 PM   #107 
     - In other words...  Beavker   Feb-02-09 02:12 PM   #108 
  - I think your assumptions are incorrect.  JDPriestly   Feb-02-09 02:15 PM   #109 
  - The Wall Street clowns need to be shortened.  hobbit709   Feb-02-09 03:30 PM   #116 
  - I hate to say it, but  G_j   Feb-02-09 04:08 PM   #123 
 

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