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Wed Jan-28-09 10:30 AM
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| 29. Unfortunately, the threat of force opened him up for a robbery charge |
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Edited on Wed Jan-28-09 10:34 AM by Gormy Cuss
and that would allow for charging under subsection (a) of the Section 1349 (bank robbery.) Subsection (b) would be applicable if he just stole it from the counter He pretended to have a gun. At that point the amount stolen is less relevant than the intimidation.
Subsection (a) prohibits the taking or attempted taking by force, intimidation, or extortion, of any property, money or any other thing of value belonging to, or in the care, custody, control, management or possession of any bank, credit union, or savings and loan association, which are defined in § 2113(f), (g), and (h), respectively. Furthermore, anyone who enters or attempts to enter any building used in whole or in part as a bank, credit union, or savings and loan association with the intent to commit any felony affecting such financial institution or any larceny is subject to a fine, twenty years imprisonment or both.
Still, 15 years is a pretty ridiculous sentence given the whole context.
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| -Homeless man gets 15 years for stealing $100 |
Are_grits_groceries |
Jan-28-09 09:44 AM |
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Meanwhile, a former AIG exec got only 4 years fraud (to the tune of 500 million) |
anonymous171 |
Jan-28-09 09:46 AM |
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That's what I was going to post. |
flvegan |
Jan-28-09 09:48 AM |
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That's what I was going to post as well. |
NM Independent |
Jan-28-09 10:13 AM |
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On the plus side, he's got a home now. Three hots and a cot. |
wienerdoggie |
Jan-28-09 09:46 AM |
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That's my thoughts too. I've heard of people doing this simply because they know they will be warm |
madmom |
Jan-28-09 09:51 AM |
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I'd Do It |
RobinA |
Jan-28-09 09:17 PM |
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Yeah, that's the upside. No worries about job loss or free healthcare now. nt |
cabluedem |
Jan-28-09 10:17 AM |
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My initial thought was "At least he's no longer homeless." |
slackmaster |
Jan-28-09 10:23 AM |
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True, and he's not likely to provoke the ire of other inmates. |
Vektor |
Jan-29-09 03:32 AM |
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For the record: probably one or two meals of which one will be cold. n/t |
ieoeja |
Jan-29-09 04:07 PM |
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well he gets a warm, dry bed and meals |
rurallib |
Jan-28-09 09:46 AM |
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reminds me more of Les Miserables ... |
sunnystarr |
Jan-29-09 09:07 AM |
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The laws should be changed |
Confusious |
Jan-28-09 09:48 AM |
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I like that policy |
Xicano |
Jan-29-09 04:02 AM |
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stealing != robbing |
DS1 |
Jan-28-09 09:48 AM |
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That's the same reasoning that was used when the homeless |
midnight |
Jan-28-09 10:03 AM |
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this makes my heart ache. |
KittyWampus |
Jan-28-09 09:48 AM |
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It feels it will never stop, some days, too many. |
Mnemosyne |
Jan-28-09 08:04 PM |
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justice? |
Bluerthanblue |
Jan-28-09 09:48 AM |
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You've quoted federal guidelines, but he was sentenced under Louisiana state law: |
SteppingRazor |
Jan-28-09 09:50 AM |
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Well that just makes it hunky dory.......nt |
Are_grits_groceries |
Jan-28-09 09:53 AM |
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Who said it makes it hunky dory, the poster was just explaining the law |
WI_DEM |
Jan-28-09 10:35 AM |
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Thanks. And, certainly, I didn't want to endorse it. |
SteppingRazor |
Jan-28-09 10:47 AM |
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We give judges discretion in sentencing people for a reason |
Hippo_Tron |
Jan-29-09 12:27 AM |
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Do we? |
SteppingRazor |
Jan-29-09 09:05 AM |
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According to a post above it's no less than 3 and no more than 40 years |
Hippo_Tron |
Jan-29-09 02:42 PM |
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I know. That post above is mine. |
SteppingRazor |
Jan-29-09 03:53 PM |
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He won't appeal. |
Veritas_et_Aequitas |
Jan-28-09 09:52 AM |
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If his life is that bad, 3 meals (such as they are in a Louisiana prison system) and a place to... |
Poll_Blind |
Jan-28-09 09:57 AM |
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One year would have sufficed to get this man fed and detoxed and perhaps |
glitch |
Jan-28-09 10:18 AM |
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Exactly. 15 years is a LOOOONG time. Who knows how long he was homleless in the first place. |
MidwestTransplant |
Jan-28-09 10:21 AM |
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Well you don't make the laws, do you? |
lizzy |
Jan-28-09 07:07 PM |
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for someone who is unclear on laws |
musette_sf |
Jan-28-09 08:25 PM |
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Well, wtf do you know? |
lizzy |
Jan-28-09 08:50 PM |
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Thanks for responding to whoever it is that I have on ignore :) nt |
glitch |
Jan-28-09 11:16 PM |
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How much state money is going to be spent incarcerating this man? |
bluestateguy |
Jan-28-09 09:56 AM |
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Yeah, but they get the slave, er, I mean free labor. |
bertman |
Jan-28-09 11:26 PM |
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Anatole France noted, some time ago, that |
elleng |
Jan-28-09 10:00 AM |
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I was thinking of that quote as well |
Canuckistanian |
Jan-28-09 10:17 AM |
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The last eight years seems to have closed all the loop holes |
midnight |
Jan-28-09 10:01 AM |
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Louisiana jails 15 year olds for life- what do you expect? |
depakid |
Jan-28-09 10:06 AM |
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Louisiana is one of the southern states I will NEVER enter in my lifetime. nt |
cabluedem |
Jan-28-09 10:21 AM |
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Jan-28-09 10:33 AM |
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Oh well, one more NOLA hotel room for me, then |
KamaAina |
Jan-28-09 08:28 PM |
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The OP made it appear as though this was a Federal case |
KamaAina |
Jan-28-09 08:27 PM |
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What A Horrible Sentencing. I Hope The Appeals Process Can Help Him. |
OPERATIONMINDCRIME |
Jan-28-09 10:16 AM |
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Read more here - Says the guy is 5 5" tall and weighs 143 pounds. |
1776Forever |
Jan-28-09 10:21 AM |
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Well, pardon me. Robbery charge does not take |
lizzy |
Jan-28-09 07:13 PM |
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2 important points to this incident: |
dixiegrrrrl |
Jan-28-09 10:27 AM |
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Thank you, dixiegrrrrl |
Enthusiast |
Jan-29-09 03:56 AM |
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Unfortunately, the threat of force opened him up for a robbery charge |
Gormy Cuss |
Jan-28-09 10:30 AM |
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Meanwhile, $100 Billion thief Madoff sits at home screwing his wife. |
TWiley |
Jan-28-09 10:31 AM |
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Part of this I would bet is three strikes and your out--he probably had a a police record for |
WI_DEM |
Jan-28-09 10:33 AM |
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... with liberty and justice for all. |
eppur_se_muova |
Jan-28-09 06:52 PM |
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So if he had given 1 cent more back, he would've gotten 14 years less. |
Waiting For Everyman |
Jan-28-09 06:58 PM |
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Stealing would not be a correct description. |
lizzy |
Jan-28-09 07:05 PM |
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So does Madoff get 7.5 billion years? |
KamaAina |
Jan-28-09 07:07 PM |
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Of course not |
malaise |
Jan-28-09 08:21 PM |
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The law locks up the man or woman who steals the goose from off the common |
Hannah Bell |
Jan-28-09 07:10 PM |
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Fuck that, didn't bushitler do away with all the laws? When were they restored? |
lonestarnot |
Jan-28-09 07:13 PM |
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Welcome to America... |
MrScorpio |
Jan-28-09 08:19 PM |
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This is why the USA has 25% of the world's prisoners while only having 5% of the world's population. |
New Dawn |
Jan-28-09 08:33 PM |
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He. Robbed. A. Bank. |
jmowreader |
Jan-28-09 08:33 PM |
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Trying to be sarcastic with your headline? No? You are serious? |
Duende azul |
Jan-28-09 09:43 PM |
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I have perspective |
jmowreader |
Jan-29-09 05:45 AM |
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The vicious bank robber, Clyde Barrow along with his sidekick, Bonnie Parker, made |
bertman |
Jan-28-09 11:45 PM |
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Robbing a bank is different than shoplifting or picking pockets. |
geek tragedy |
Jan-29-09 03:01 PM |
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Of course it's different and it's serious, but putting a man in jail who took $100 and |
bertman |
Jan-29-09 05:46 PM |
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And he should be punished for it, but 15 years is fucking ridiculous and a waste of taxpayer money |
Hippo_Tron |
Jan-29-09 12:33 AM |
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Hey is Bernie Maddoff in jail for stealing Billions? |
MadMaddie |
Jan-28-09 08:52 PM |
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No longer homeless, has health care, and a warm place to sleep |
2Design |
Jan-28-09 11:16 PM |
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"Spiderwebs for the rich and mighty, steel chains for the ppor and weak" - Proudhon |
struggle4progress |
Jan-28-09 11:40 PM |
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A homeless guy broke into my truck he'll be eligible for parole in 20 years. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Jan-29-09 12:00 AM |
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You don't need to rationalize the insane decisions of the court. |
file83 |
Jan-29-09 01:33 AM |
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He only got three years for the crimes he committed against me. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Jan-29-09 03:02 PM |
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He robbed a damned bank. |
ArbustoBuster |
Jan-29-09 12:48 AM |
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More importantly here is the need for deterence. |
file83 |
Jan-29-09 01:34 AM |
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But harsher punishment doesn't tend to deter people... |
varkam |
Jan-29-09 07:00 AM |
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the robbed a band of $100 and got 15 years . . . and yet . . . and yet . . . |
OneBlueSky |
Jan-29-09 05:58 AM |
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Bernie Madow needs to be sharing his cell. nt |
Vinca |
Jan-29-09 06:51 AM |
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The sad part |
LiberalPersona |
Jan-29-09 07:41 AM |
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meanwhile bernie madoff lives well in his penthouse apartment |
spanone |
Jan-29-09 07:46 AM |
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Jean Valjean in 21st Century America. nt |
raccoon |
Jan-29-09 08:06 AM |
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Which is more terrifying? |
Tsiyu |
Jan-29-09 10:51 AM |
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he read about bernie and thought stealing was suddenly legal |
spanone |
Jan-29-09 02:44 PM |
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Paging Jean Valjean and Javert...your new nation awaits you. |
tom_paine |
Jan-29-09 02:46 PM |
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"It Was the Best of Times, It Was the Worst of Times." |
slampoet |
Jan-29-09 03:57 PM |
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