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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 10:19 PM
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87. Why do you wish to salvage a system that is designed to fail in it's established purpose,
and that is specifically designed to benefit it's owners at the expense of it's captive participants?

The poor, one of which I am, BTW, have little to nothing to do with the financial system except in how much it forces us to pay for access to what little currency we do have.

You are simply wrong in your assumption that when our financial system implodes, it will matter to us at all. It seems that you, like the other person that replied to you, have confused the financial system with the social and governmental systems.

Article 1 section 8 of the constitution places the power of controlling the national currency in the hands of Congress not the private banking system. It is the private banking system that is imploding. It is the private banking system that is taking a third of our product as payment for it's "services" while simultaneously failing to provide those services.

They need us to exist, we do not need them at all. On the whole, we are far better off without them.


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  -Economy collapses....so what. callchet  Jan-27-09 11:25 PM   #0 
  - For one, Germany and Japan didn't have nukes.  MUAD_DIB   Jan-27-09 11:30 PM   #1 
  - Is there some rule that says if your handle is all caps, you are not allowed to contribute anything  Greyhound   Jan-28-09 12:22 AM   #18 
     - That's not what I was doing. I think you know that.  MUAD_DIB   Jan-28-09 08:28 AM   #35 
  - Yeah, feudalism worked out real well for the peasants.  jobycom   Jan-27-09 11:32 PM   #2 
  - After WWII ?  callchet   Jan-27-09 11:38 PM   #4 
     - After Rome.  jobycom   Jan-27-09 11:48 PM   #5 
  - It would cause unthinkable hardship,  Prometheus Bound   Jan-27-09 11:33 PM   #3 
  - Life is tolerable hardship, every fucking day, under this current system.  Oregone   Jan-28-09 12:06 AM   #10 
     - psst.. don't tell them...  undergroundpanther   Jan-28-09 12:36 AM   #20 
        - I agree...very sad. n/t  Oregone   Jan-28-09 12:43 AM   #23 
        - That's for damned sure! This is just a never ending cycle of  Fire1   Jan-28-09 10:29 AM   #71 
  - Excellent point, for millions of Americans it has already collapsed  specimenfred1984   Jan-27-09 11:48 PM   #6 
  - ouch, I like that: "dead capitalists walking" n/t  leftstreet   Jan-28-09 12:42 AM   #22 
  - Germany, Japan, and Italy, huh?  Chulanowa   Jan-28-09 12:03 AM   #7 
  - Germany's collapsed economy brought Hitler and WWII  tkmorris   Jan-28-09 12:05 AM   #8 
  - Hitler brought Germany to ruin and after the worst man  callchet   Jan-28-09 12:08 AM   #11 
     - I hear ya, but it was economic ruin that brought that on  tkmorris   Jan-28-09 12:16 AM   #15 
     - You don't get it. !  callchet   Jan-28-09 12:19 AM   #16 
     - They didn't do it alone because they couldn't. The U.S. "bailed out" our vanquished enemies, Japan  CTyankee   Jan-28-09 08:11 AM   #33 
  - "They would do business as usual." THAT is the problem.  alittlelark   Jan-28-09 12:06 AM   #9 
  - Now is time for the New New Deal  callchet   Jan-28-09 12:09 AM   #12 
     - Chet, check this out...  Greyhound   Jan-28-09 12:41 AM   #21 
        - Man, I am an ex coal miner, union activist son of a bitch and that brought tears to my eyes  callchet   Jan-28-09 09:29 AM   #53 
           - I never had a tattoo but I am thinking about having  callchet   Jan-28-09 09:32 AM   #54 
  - A few things.  pa28   Jan-28-09 12:12 AM   #13 
  - A beating with one club  callchet   Jan-28-09 12:14 AM   #14 
  - Your argument seems to boil down to, "I'll lose what I still have and I don't  Greyhound   Jan-28-09 12:20 AM   #17 
     - That's right Greyhound  callchet   Jan-28-09 12:25 AM   #19 
     - I do want to salvage the system.  pa28   Jan-28-09 01:33 AM   #24 
     - Bingo, if society does completely collapse  vadawg   Jan-28-09 01:40 AM   #26 
     - The private banking system is not society.  Greyhound   Jan-28-09 10:20 PM   #88 
     - Why do you wish to salvage a system that is designed to fail in it's established purpose,  Greyhound   Jan-28-09 10:19 PM   #87 
     - I am not sure how the first argument is tied to the second  hfojvt   Jan-28-09 02:00 PM   #86 
  - Let the Predator Class bail out its precious Capitalism  leftstreet   Jan-28-09 01:39 AM   #25 
  - My brother in law is getting murdered by this economy.  callchet   Jan-28-09 07:19 AM   #27 
  - Japan and germany were re-built by American money  GCP   Jan-28-09 07:36 AM   #28 
  - We will work it out ourselves.  callchet   Jan-28-09 07:44 AM   #29 
     - Geez - you've really got this Social Darwinism down pat, haven't you  GCP   Jan-28-09 07:49 AM   #30 
     - The bubble ?  callchet   Jan-28-09 08:01 AM   #31 
     - Where's Your Proof?  ProfessorGAC   Jan-28-09 10:12 AM   #65 
  - So you're pleased that millions have lost their retirements?  depakid   Jan-28-09 08:03 AM   #32 
  - Do you not get it.  callchet   Jan-28-09 08:17 AM   #34 
     - I think you are the one  northernlights   Jan-28-09 08:59 AM   #38 
     - Why not have deflectors on the engine intakes  callchet   Jan-28-09 09:16 AM   #45 
        - once the plane is in the air  northernlights   Jan-28-09 09:27 AM   #48 
           - Right and are they redesigning the plane ? No !  callchet   Jan-28-09 09:47 AM   #56 
              - the economy is still in the air, in free fall  northernlights   Jan-28-09 01:52 PM   #84 
     - With statements like this, I think you  edhopper   Jan-28-09 09:15 AM   #43 
     - Are you so insulated that you have no idea  callchet   Jan-28-09 09:22 AM   #47 
        - What does your response  edhopper   Jan-28-09 09:28 AM   #50 
        - You said  callchet   Jan-28-09 09:45 AM   #55 
           - The solution is not to race to the bottom with third world countries.  Marr   Jan-28-09 10:11 AM   #64 
              - There are already 12,000,000 people out of work.  callchet   Jan-28-09 10:23 AM   #68 
                 - Since Reagan, our trade policy has encouraged corporations to move production overseas.  Marr   Jan-28-09 10:30 AM   #73 
                 - And his massive tax cuts.  callchet   Jan-28-09 10:31 AM   #74 
                 - no, I believe there are more like 25,000,000 out of work  northernlights   Jan-28-09 01:59 PM   #85 
        - go back to freeperland where you belong  northernlights   Jan-28-09 09:29 AM   #52 
           - How many people have been put out of work by environmental regulations ?  callchet   Jan-28-09 10:18 AM   #66 
           - None  edhopper   Jan-28-09 10:38 AM   #77 
              - I hope you have a good job !  callchet   Jan-28-09 10:57 AM   #80 
              - I can show you 400,000 coalminers that lost their jobs and I was one  callchet   Jan-28-09 10:59 AM   #81 
              - Ask Warren Buffet  callchet   Jan-28-09 11:17 AM   #82 
           - Bottom line time !  callchet   Jan-28-09 10:25 AM   #69 
              - ? ? ? ?  callchet   Jan-28-09 10:32 AM   #75 
     - Huh?  depakid   Jan-28-09 09:28 AM   #51 
     - Are you fucking kidding me?  Marr   Jan-28-09 10:07 AM   #62 
        - Reality please.  callchet   Jan-28-09 10:20 AM   #67 
           - Again, are you kidding me? You're asking how tariffs could help with a trade deficit?  Marr   Jan-28-09 10:26 AM   #70 
              - That will only work if you have a massive progressive tax increase.  callchet   Jan-28-09 10:29 AM   #72 
                 - You don't need a tax increase to reinstitute tariffs.  Marr   Jan-28-09 10:35 AM   #76 
                    - You need a tax increase to get money to the people to buy stuff.  callchet   Jan-28-09 10:45 AM   #79 
  - When Germany collapsed they got Hitler.  Odin2005   Jan-28-09 08:42 AM   #36 
  - Your shortsighted, They got a war that they got defeated in  callchet   Jan-28-09 08:48 AM   #37 
  - 12 million people, half of then Jews were murdered in state-run genocide.  Odin2005   Jan-28-09 09:04 AM   #39 
     - Lets do something. Do you think everything is rosy now ?  callchet   Jan-28-09 09:12 AM   #42 
  - America collapsed and we got W. Also two wars of aggression.  Romulox   Jan-28-09 09:06 AM   #40 
     - So... are we going to do anything now ?  callchet   Jan-28-09 09:11 AM   #41 
        - Well, we gave $3 trillion to Wall Street, and we're set to give more tax cuts to the rich  Romulox   Jan-28-09 09:15 AM   #44 
           - Write you congressman and demand double the New Deal Now  callchet   Jan-28-09 09:27 AM   #49 
              - LOL. According to the Detroit Free Press, Michigan's share of the stimulus is only $2.6B  Romulox   Jan-28-09 09:51 AM   #57 
                 - Tell them they won't be there to clout again  callchet   Jan-28-09 09:58 AM   #59 
  - CORPORATE FEUDALISM FTW!!!  anonymous171   Jan-28-09 09:17 AM   #46 
  - Here's a rant I found from a 12/21/2012 board....  Catherine Vincent   Jan-28-09 09:53 AM   #58 
  - so what??????????  bdamomma   Jan-28-09 10:01 AM   #60 
  - And it is one universal problem  callchet   Jan-28-09 10:08 AM   #63 
  - Sounds Libertarian  treestar   Jan-28-09 10:04 AM   #61 
  - Here is exactly what I am for  callchet   Jan-28-09 10:39 AM   #78 
  - My mistake, worn out .  callchet   Jan-28-09 01:10 PM   #83 
 

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