| 239. I think poor kids should get Oscars or some kind of academic credit for mastering invisibility. |
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Edited on Wed Jan-28-09 06:56 PM by sfexpat2000
This isn't to let dead beat parents off the hook or any adult that could have taken a step. They are responsible. But, this thread has made me remember how much of a second "job" hiding our poverty was for me while I was in my early teens right through high school. I have no idea where I got the idea that you should hide poverty. In all honesty, I probably didn't even know what the word meant or maybe I believed it meant other people, not us. We lived in a segregated suburb in Silicon Valley and my mom was an executive. She supported me and my brother and my grandmother and her attendant and somewhere in all of that, things unraveled. But, those "things" weren't supposed to "unravel" in our neighborhood, so we just soldiered on. I don't know what my mom went through, exactly, except that she was working without any net at all. At some point, she stopped being able to work at all. I only remember feeling embarrassed because I didn't have the quarter for a popsicle on Fridays. In those days, the school provided everything from books to pencils so that Friday treat was the only thing that could go wrong. I could usually find stuff at home to pack for my lunch and my school didn't have a cafeteria. When I couldn't find anything to eat for lunch, I just didn't eat lunch but I also didn't tell anybody. Sometimes I walked home at lunchtime anyway because it was something to do with the time. If my friends asked, I just said I forgot my lunch or lost it. As things got worse, I stopped asking my friends over to play and I stopped going to their houses very much. Worrying if Mom was going to be home for dinner and then, worrying what I would find to cook for my brother if I could find him. I was eleven and he was six. Shortly after, there was no money for so many things but I remember my mom telling me, there was none for clothes. We had a sewing machine, though, so, I learned how to sew and used to walk to the discount store and look for the cheapest fabric I could find to make my school clothes. That's some nerve, when you think about it. What kid thinks she can fake buying her clothes at Sears or Penney's hoping no one will notice enough to mention it? Maybe "delusional" is a better descriptor. I don't remember what my brother did for clothes except he always looked untidy, he needed a hair cut and his clothes were too small. But the point is, kids will try to find a way to solve the problem. They're little problem solving machines. And, if anyone asked me, I just told them I was learning to sew and in our suburb, that was like saying you were learning Gregorian chants. There was no reaction because no one could imagine what you meant. And no reaction was exactly what I wanted. I just needed to be able to go to school because going to school meant keeping connected to my friends and to my teachers and to some hope that change was possible. I don't remember going to a doctor or to a dentist. My mom used to tell us we were fine when we got hurt because she was terrified of having no money for a doctor. That's just the way things were for a few years. My brother and I are lucky nothing really bad happened to us during that time. It's hard to believe that many families don't go through those times. I loved school. It was a paradise for someone like me. There were capable adults all over the place. Books, clean rooms, stuff that people talked about that had nothing at all to do with the home I was living in. But, it was also full of potentially awful moments like when we were asked to buy Junior Scholastic books and magazines or, to bring treats or, to buy special clothes for events or to order class pictures or even, to bring Valentine's Day cards or Christmas cards or to put in money to buy our teacher a cake for her birthday. My teachers were the best people I've ever met. I don't know how much they guessed or knew because they never made me feel badly and only on a couple of occasions did any of them approach this thing that I was even hiding from myself at ten, eleven, twelve, thirteen. But the school had a culture and it probably worked just fine for most kids. And for those of us just hanging on in the periphery, it was something to look forward to more days than it was something to dread. But, I can't help thinking that the inequities keep us back 'way into the future when it's so needless -- even just the little ones that a school could mitigate. Those kids like me that try to make our poverty invisible often wind up making all of ourselves invisible and that's no way to excel at school. That's no way to inspire a counselor to help you make it to college or even to provide you with a transcript you might need to get a job. That's no way to prepare to face life after school when you have no homeroom teacher that knows your name. It's exactly the opposite of networking, of reaching out to the world and saying,"Here I am, whaddaya got?" as our kids should be able to do as their birthright in this country. This whole cheese sandwich thing makes me wonder how many times Bill Clinton or Barack Obama hung back or didn't press forward because their mom was poor. They did fine, finally. But most kids aren't Bill Clinton or Barack Obama. Bill Clinton and Barack Obama weren't Bill Clinton or Barack Obama. They were just kids who needed lunch just like everybody else. We should be able to give them that damn lunch and not burden them with this whole other job of concealing their poverty into the bargain. You never know who those cheese sandwich eating kids will turn out to be given half a chance. 
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Parents angry that school feeds kids cheese sandwiches if parents don't pay lunch bill |
proud2Blib |
Jan-27-09 06:02 PM |
#0 |

Aaaand...they want the kids to have what, exactly? Peanut butter would be a veggie option, I s'pose. |
ogneopasno |
Jan-27-09 06:04 PM |
#1 |
 
Peanut butter is giving folks salmonella |
proud2Blib |
Jan-27-09 06:06 PM |
#4 |
  
Yeah, I know; I'm just wondering what they think is wrong with the cheese sandwich. |
ogneopasno |
Jan-27-09 06:13 PM |
#14 |
   
It makes their kids stand out |
proud2Blib |
Jan-27-09 06:21 PM |
#21 |
  
Huh. Something like that isn't something to be embarrassed about in my district, |
ogneopasno |
Jan-27-09 06:24 PM |
#25 |
  
"Too poor to live? Free PB&J." wtf is wrong with you? |
uppityperson |
Jan-28-09 02:05 PM |
#140 |
  
Plus many schools are now peanut free due to severe allergies |
GloriaSmith |
Jan-27-09 06:14 PM |
#15 |
  
It isn't PB that is giving people salmonella, it is the PB mix into crackers, |
Ilsa |
Jan-28-09 08:38 PM |
#244 |
  
Peanut allergies mean that Peanut Butter is often banned in schools. |
MillieJo |
Jan-29-09 09:38 AM |
#255 |
 
Not with all the peanut allergies there are. |
AngryOldDem |
Jan-29-09 10:29 AM |
#259 |

Denny's gets 3 bucks for one. |
ferrous wheel |
Jan-27-09 06:05 PM |
#2 |

It was peanut butter and jelly at our elementary school if you didn't have the money. |
vanderBeth |
Jan-27-09 06:05 PM |
#3 |
 
I have bought more school lunches than I care to count over the years |
proud2Blib |
Jan-27-09 06:07 PM |
#5 |

... |
vanderBeth |
Jan-27-09 06:18 PM |
#18 |

i am all for it and say a thank you the times my kids have gotten that cheese sandwich. |
seabeyond |
Jan-27-09 06:07 PM |
#6 |
 
I'll bet getting a cheese sandwich helps them remember to tell you they need lunch money |
proud2Blib |
Jan-27-09 06:09 PM |
#7 |
  
lol lol yup. right on. lol. n/t |
seabeyond |
Jan-27-09 06:14 PM |
#16 |
 
Exactly what I was thinking. |
bunnies |
Jan-27-09 06:12 PM |
#12 |
  
that is what i was thinking..... at least the kid isnt going without food. n/t |
seabeyond |
Jan-27-09 06:15 PM |
#17 |
  
As opposed to giving them a hot lunch and a note sent to parent. |
uppityperson |
Jan-28-09 02:09 PM |
#141 |
 
They give the kids hot meals for a while |
Ms. Toad |
Jan-29-09 09:49 AM |
#257 |
 
I'd have to agree |
JackintheGreen |
Jan-27-09 06:25 PM |
#28 |

And what do I eat for lunch? Cheese sandwiches.... lol lol |
seabeyond |
Jan-27-09 06:28 PM |
#30 |

I was actually planning to go home and have one right now - I sure wish it was free! |
petronius |
Jan-27-09 07:31 PM |
#84 |

parents need to teach there's no mocking those in need and why, and as you said - I like cheese |
Divine Discontent |
Jan-27-09 11:56 PM |
#123 |

I grew up on free school lunches... |
awoke_in_2003 |
Jan-28-09 06:06 PM |
#229 |

Do they even serve peanut butter at schools anymore? |
LisaM |
Jan-27-09 06:10 PM |
#8 |
 
Ours serves PB&J if you forget your lunch or don't have money for a hot lunch. |
ogneopasno |
Jan-27-09 06:12 PM |
#10 |
 
Ours switched to sunflower seed butter. |
kas125 |
Jan-27-09 07:10 PM |
#79 |
  
That sounds good... |
awoke_in_2003 |
Jan-28-09 06:08 PM |
#231 |
 
I haven't made it myself, but I have bought it at Meijer and it is good! |
kas125 |
Jan-28-09 09:31 PM |
#245 |
 
Many aren't... |
awoke_in_2003 |
Jan-28-09 06:07 PM |
#230 |

I think it's a damned good policy. nt |
rateyes |
Jan-27-09 06:12 PM |
#9 |

That stigma also teaches kids |
Warpy |
Jan-27-09 06:12 PM |
#11 |
 
Shaming children teaches them to avoid shame and that's about it. |
sfexpat2000 |
Jan-27-09 06:22 PM |
#22 |
  
Exactly. |
thecatburgler |
Jan-27-09 06:25 PM |
#26 |
   
Should I forward you the address where you can send a check? |
proud2Blib |
Jan-27-09 06:30 PM |
#33 |
  
Understood, but why punish the kids? nt |
thecatburgler |
Jan-27-09 06:44 PM |
#56 |
   
Any better ideas? |
proud2Blib |
Jan-27-09 06:47 PM |
#60 |
  
Thin out administration... |
awoke_in_2003 |
Jan-28-09 06:13 PM |
#233 |
  
Contact the parents directly. It works here. |
uppityperson |
Jan-28-09 02:13 PM |
#144 |
  
It's better than not feeding them at all |
proud2Blib |
Jan-27-09 06:26 PM |
#29 |
   
Yes, it is. But it's in no way a "character builder". |
sfexpat2000 |
Jan-27-09 06:31 PM |
#35 |
  
well... with both my kids, not a lot of empathy on my part when they dont do their |
seabeyond |
Jan-27-09 06:35 PM |
#38 |
   
The knowledge that you made a mistake (I didn't ask Mom for lunch money) |
sfexpat2000 |
Jan-27-09 06:38 PM |
#45 |
  
yet dressing kids in cardboard box of sandwich or milk isnt stigmatizing the children |
seabeyond |
Jan-27-09 06:48 PM |
#61 |
  
Some adults are not good parents. And some policy makers |
sfexpat2000 |
Jan-27-09 06:51 PM |
#66 |
  
I am not calling it that |
proud2Blib |
Jan-27-09 06:41 PM |
#50 |
  
Omg, I hear you. |
sfexpat2000 |
Jan-27-09 06:45 PM |
#58 |
  
Toxic? |
philk17088 |
Jan-27-09 06:30 PM |
#34 |
   
Maybe you need to do some reading on what shame does to children |
sfexpat2000 |
Jan-27-09 06:33 PM |
#36 |
    
where is the shame? |
philk17088 |
Jan-27-09 07:02 PM |
#75 |
     
I was responding to this post: |
sfexpat2000 |
Jan-27-09 07:04 PM |
#77 |
     
The shame is when the kids who owe money are given a DIFFERENT lunch |
proud2Blib |
Jan-27-09 08:54 PM |
#109 |
    
Something Tells Me |
NashVegas |
Jan-28-09 08:48 AM |
#128 |
   
Right. It could be a great tool for that. |
sfexpat2000 |
Jan-28-09 02:11 PM |
#142 |
   
Tough Call |
NashVegas |
Jan-29-09 08:57 AM |
#252 |
   
Did you go to the Oakland public schools? |
XemaSab |
Jan-27-09 06:55 PM |
#71 |
  
What was that about? |
sfexpat2000 |
Jan-27-09 07:00 PM |
#74 |
  
It was a JOKE |
XemaSab |
Jan-27-09 07:52 PM |
#90 |
   
And to think all those years, I felt jealous of kids that had school food! |
sfexpat2000 |
Jan-27-09 08:13 PM |
#99 |
  
Bringing back memories for me |
proud2Blib |
Jan-27-09 09:02 PM |
#110 |
  
LOL! |
sfexpat2000 |
Jan-28-09 02:28 PM |
#147 |
  
It's humiliating. Kids can be down right mean to one another. There's |
snappyturtle |
Jan-27-09 06:39 PM |
#48 |
   
After 8 years of Bush, our schools are hurting. |
sfexpat2000 |
Jan-27-09 06:43 PM |
#55 |
  
Good point! I hope those in charge know the reason the lunches aren't |
snappyturtle |
Jan-27-09 06:52 PM |
# |
  
Those kids were also being fed |
Warpy |
Jan-27-09 08:33 PM |
#104 |
   
I wonder how many kids just skip it to avoid the stigma? |
sfexpat2000 |
Jan-28-09 02:53 PM |
#154 |
  
Done that myself back in the day |
suffragette |
Jan-28-09 05:14 PM |
#214 |
  
God THANK YOU. Someone with a brain showed up. |
Political Heretic |
Jan-28-09 08:52 AM |
#129 |
 
I haven't read anything on this topic in 20 years but, yeah, it's true. n/t |
sfexpat2000 |
Jan-28-09 02:55 PM |
#155 |
 
but .... |
Caliman73 |
Jan-27-09 06:24 PM |
#23 |
  
Stigmatizing children doesn't teach them anything they can use. |
sfexpat2000 |
Jan-27-09 06:34 PM |
#37 |
 
The point is not to stigmatize children |
Caliman73 |
Jan-27-09 07:44 PM |
#89 |
 
Yes, the point is to stimatize children as a way to force their parents |
sfexpat2000 |
Jan-28-09 03:00 PM |
#156 |
 
Thank you for your common sense. |
ChazII |
Jan-27-09 10:03 PM |
#120 |
 
Lunch room stigma was fun. |
Gormy Cuss |
Jan-28-09 11:51 AM |
#136 |
  
LOL! Isn't it amazing? We were already "foreign" so it was pretty hard |
sfexpat2000 |
Jan-28-09 03:02 PM |
#157 |
  
Junior high school kids are vicious animals |
Warpy |
Jan-28-09 03:35 PM |
#176 |
 
That's true. It's too bad that the parents can't be shamed at work instead. n/t |
Gormy Cuss |
Jan-28-09 05:21 PM |
#219 |
 
It also teaches the kids of the "respectable people" who they shouldn't socialize with |
Radical Activist |
Jan-28-09 03:11 PM |
#162 |

You bet. Poor kids get marked out AND disappeared at the same time. |
sfexpat2000 |
Jan-28-09 03:17 PM |
#166 |
 
Yes. And for the rest of the school day |
Radical Activist |
Jan-28-09 03:25 PM |
#170 |

Possibly |
Warpy |
Jan-28-09 03:38 PM |
#178 |

The same thing was happening in Edmonds School District north of Seattle |
JulieRB |
Jan-27-09 06:13 PM |
#13 |
 
There is a federal program that pays for 100% of your school lunches |
proud2Blib |
Jan-27-09 06:24 PM |
#24 |

They may not qualify. It's possible these are people who just |
Critters2 |
Jan-27-09 06:29 PM |
#31 |

From what I understand of the program, |
proud2Blib |
Jan-27-09 06:35 PM |
#39 |

I agree that it stigmatizes kids |
gratuitous |
Jan-27-09 06:19 PM |
#19 |
 
little Marblehead |
proud2Blib |
Jan-27-09 06:36 PM |
#42 |
 
I can't think of a year when I didn't need to make some kind of arrangement |
sfexpat2000 |
Jan-28-09 03:07 PM |
#159 |

All kids should be provided lunch at school. |
Lex |
Jan-27-09 06:21 PM |
#20 |
 
I agree |
proud2Blib |
Jan-27-09 06:37 PM |
#43 |
 
yep! |
kid a |
Jan-28-09 02:04 PM |
#139 |
 
I grew up in Canada |
wolfgangmo |
Jan-28-09 05:17 PM |
#215 |

I like cheese sandwhiches... |
Shiver |
Jan-27-09 06:25 PM |
#27 |
 
me too! A favorite in our house... |
Fireweed247 |
Jan-27-09 06:49 PM |
#62 |

this is what i am thinking. parent yells humiliation. then make a sandwich or make sure kid |
seabeyond |
Jan-27-09 06:52 PM |
#67 |

ya! |
Fireweed247 |
Jan-27-09 07:24 PM |
#81 |

you know.... and i tell ya, if my parents didnt pay the bill, and i really felt shame |
seabeyond |
Jan-27-09 07:27 PM |
#82 |

There were quite a few times I forgot to tell my mom |
tammywammy |
Jan-27-09 06:30 PM |
#32 |
 
I just feel so sorry |
4 t 4 |
Jan-27-09 06:41 PM |
#49 |

Kids whose parents can't afford lunch can apply for free lunch |
proud2Blib |
Jan-27-09 06:43 PM |
#53 |

c'mon folks |
philk17088 |
Jan-27-09 07:55 PM |
#92 |
 
Time to get responsible people. |
seabeyond |
Jan-27-09 08:23 PM |
#100 |
 
You bet what happens to kids at school is the school's responsibility. |
sfexpat2000 |
Jan-28-09 05:48 PM |
#228 |

If they cannot afford lunch, then the parents can apply for the free lunch program |
tammywammy |
Jan-27-09 08:03 PM |
#95 |

Times sure do change |
Southpaw07 |
Jan-27-09 06:36 PM |
#40 |
 
If I was your teacher, I would have paid for your lunch |
proud2Blib |
Jan-27-09 06:38 PM |
#46 |
  
i had a teacher share her lunch with my son once. so sweet. n/t |
seabeyond |
Jan-27-09 06:41 PM |
#51 |
   
Hey I draw the line there |
proud2Blib |
Jan-27-09 06:44 PM |
#57 |
  
lol, i hear ya. this was a 6th grade math teacher of sons. |
seabeyond |
Jan-27-09 06:51 PM |
#65 |
  
Thanks - I love hearing those stories. |
proud2Blib |
Jan-27-09 06:53 PM |
#70 |
   
i have tons. i love my teachers and kids have had so many. you guys are.... simply |
seabeyond |
Jan-27-09 06:58 PM |
#72 |
  
Parents like you make it so much easier |
proud2Blib |
Jan-27-09 09:03 PM |
#112 |
  
What a great story. One of my teachers kept me sane (or, sort of!) |
sfexpat2000 |
Jan-27-09 07:31 PM |
#83 |
  
i had mine too. hear i am 47 and still thankful for one teacher in particular |
seabeyond |
Jan-27-09 07:43 PM |
#88 |
  
Thanks. |
Southpaw07 |
Jan-27-09 06:43 PM |
#54 |
 
You wouldn't have had to say anything |
proud2Blib |
Jan-27-09 06:50 PM |
#63 |
 
us too. generally our friends chipped in some of their food. n/t |
seabeyond |
Jan-27-09 06:38 PM |
#47 |
 
at my school, people who had food they didn't want would leave it on a table up fron |
Coexist |
Jan-27-09 07:34 PM |
#85 |
 
My kids school STILL doesn't feed you lunch if you have no $$ |
Xithras |
Jan-28-09 04:56 PM |
#205 |

Back when I taught school |
Mz Pip |
Jan-27-09 06:36 PM |
#41 |
 
i've seen that at every level of school, including college |
Blue_Tires |
Jan-28-09 02:21 PM |
#145 |

Sounds Like A Perfectly Sound, Fair And Logical Policy. |
OPERATIONMINDCRIME |
Jan-27-09 06:37 PM |
#44 |
 
Of course you don't |
JulieRB |
Jan-27-09 09:38 PM |
#117 |

Our schools have been doing that for YEARS with PB&J sandwiches - |
lynne |
Jan-27-09 06:42 PM |
#52 |

Don't kids bring their lunches to school anymore? |
Fireweed247 |
Jan-27-09 06:46 PM |
#59 |
 
I noticed a lot of kids who bring sack lunches... |
cherish44 |
Jan-27-09 07:03 PM |
#76 |
 
My son does. Otherwise, he would not eat anything. Given he has 25 mn for lunch, he would not even |
Mass |
Jan-27-09 07:13 PM |
#80 |
 
I remember school food being horrible. |
alarimer |
Jan-27-09 09:19 PM |
#115 |
 
When I was in High School, I paid $0.75 |
GirlinContempt |
Jan-29-09 02:17 AM |
#251 |

Public school runs candy sale. Profits help kids pay for school lunches. |
Bozita |
Jan-27-09 06:50 PM |
#64 |
 
Our district tried to make us do this |
proud2Blib |
Jan-27-09 06:52 PM |
#68 |

Did you post about that because I think I remember it. |
sfexpat2000 |
Jan-27-09 07:07 PM |
#78 |

Probably did post about it |
proud2Blib |
Jan-27-09 08:49 PM |
#108 |

So, can I get a free grilled cheese at this school? |
NeedleCast |
Jan-27-09 06:53 PM |
#69 |
 
couple slices of white bread and a slice of cheese inside.... lol. n/t |
seabeyond |
Jan-27-09 06:59 PM |
#73 |

I love cheese sandwiches |
ozu |
Jan-27-09 07:35 PM |
#86 |

I don't know why parents are surprised by this |
gollygee |
Jan-27-09 07:41 PM |
#87 |

wtf is wrng with cheese sammiches? I eat them regularly. |
aikoaiko |
Jan-27-09 07:54 PM |
#91 |

Sandwich, apple and milk at my son's school. n/t |
cynatnite |
Jan-27-09 07:56 PM |
#93 |

I find this a disgusting policy very in line ith RW thinking |
Stinky The Clown |
Jan-27-09 07:59 PM |
#94 |
 
teased. |
philk17088 |
Jan-27-09 08:04 PM |
#96 |
  
my son gets teased for getting good grades and being smart. go figure. n/t |
seabeyond |
Jan-27-09 08:28 PM |
#102 |
 
i jsut asked son... did he ever get teased eating a cheese sandwich. NO... |
seabeyond |
Jan-27-09 08:27 PM |
#101 |
  
Your post made me laugh |
rvablue |
Jan-28-09 06:14 PM |
#234 |
 
I don't know Stinky |
Coexist |
Jan-27-09 08:33 PM |
#105 |
 
The alternative, though, is to lay off teachers. |
noamnety |
Jan-27-09 11:12 PM |
#121 |
 
I totally agree with you. I felt their pain before I retired. I often paid for their lunch. |
madfloridian |
Jan-27-09 11:51 PM |
#122 |
  
this is what i dont get. the lunch and breakfast... breakfast program is generous. |
seabeyond |
Jan-28-09 07:57 AM |
#124 |
 
I don't like the assumption that parents could pay and chose not to. |
madfloridian |
Jan-28-09 01:04 PM |
#137 |
 
That's not really the vibe I'm getting, although I'm sure there are some (meaning |
petronius |
Jan-28-09 02:43 PM |
#151 |
 
When you think about it, taking out the expense of feeding a kid during a school day |
sfexpat2000 |
Jan-28-09 04:59 PM |
#207 |
 
I don't disagree with that, and if it came up for a vote I'd support it |
petronius |
Jan-28-09 07:14 PM |
#240 |
 
They are stuck. The thing is, putting kids in the middle of an adult conflict |
sfexpat2000 |
Jan-28-09 07:24 PM |
#241 |
 
That's where we seem to disagree a bit. Assuming that the school is in fact |
petronius |
Jan-28-09 08:14 PM |
#242 |
 
And what way would that be? |
Caliman73 |
Jan-28-09 10:08 PM |
#247 |
 
Are you asking why adults should keep children out of their conflicts? |
sfexpat2000 |
Jan-29-09 12:56 AM |
#250 |
 
I would see it worse if they didn't feed the children anything. That would |
madinmaryland |
Jan-28-09 02:12 PM |
#143 |

How many hot lunches could Thain pay for |
callchet |
Jan-27-09 08:07 PM |
#97 |

They have to exceed 10 unpaid lunches in elementary? |
OurVotesCount-Ohio |
Jan-27-09 08:11 PM |
#98 |
 
our money carries over to new year and carries from school to school. n/t |
seabeyond |
Jan-27-09 08:29 PM |
#103 |
  
Maybe ours will too with this new system. |
OurVotesCount-Ohio |
Jan-27-09 09:03 PM |
#111 |
 
free and reduced lunches do help out and with the 'debit card' system now |
Coexist |
Jan-27-09 08:34 PM |
#106 |

I'm glad to hear that. |
OurVotesCount-Ohio |
Jan-27-09 09:08 PM |
#113 |

There's nothing wrong with cheese sandwiches. |
Catherine Vincent |
Jan-27-09 08:41 PM |
#107 |

at my kids high school |
carlyhippy |
Jan-27-09 09:10 PM |
#114 |
 
we simply must not |
marketcrazy1 |
Jan-27-09 09:43 PM |
#118 |

Thank you Mr Limbaugh n/t |
Ex Lurker |
Jan-27-09 09:48 PM |
#119 |

Our elementary school also does this. |
onetiredmom |
Jan-27-09 09:27 PM |
#116 |

I wonder how many kids want to crawl under their desks when |
Vinca |
Jan-28-09 08:13 AM |
#125 |
 
i want to see what i am missing here. |
seabeyond |
Jan-28-09 08:24 AM |
#126 |
 
Apparently it isn't a big deal at my daughter's school |
gollygee |
Jan-28-09 08:30 AM |
#127 |

So if Junior keeps "forgetting" to tell Mom & Dad he needs money for lunch |
WolverineDG |
Jan-28-09 08:59 AM |
#130 |
 
I get a note sent home to me from the school if her lunch account is low or has a negative balance |
gollygee |
Jan-28-09 10:31 AM |
#131 |

the day before christmas vacation i was told son out of money. forgot to pay last day |
seabeyond |
Jan-28-09 10:46 AM |
#133 |

so do I. |
Coexist |
Jan-28-09 03:10 PM |
#161 |

This thread is cracking me up. |
sfexpat2000 |
Jan-28-09 03:26 PM |
#171 |
 
according to my little sample, there is no 'side of shame' involved. |
Coexist |
Jan-28-09 03:35 PM |
#175 |
  
mine says the same. i will ask a couple of the boys that i have coming home with sons. |
seabeyond |
Jan-28-09 03:39 PM |
#179 |
  
What did you expect them to report to you? |
sfexpat2000 |
Jan-28-09 03:39 PM |
#180 |
 
the truth. why would they lie? |
Coexist |
Jan-28-09 03:40 PM |
#181 |
  
It's not a matter of lying. I bet you that of all my classmates |
sfexpat2000 |
Jan-28-09 03:47 PM |
#186 |
 
my 9yo went on a long discussion about how when he got the cheese |
Coexist |
Jan-28-09 03:51 PM |
#188 |
 
Your experience / my opinion. |
sfexpat2000 |
Jan-28-09 04:11 PM |
#195 |
 
i think |
seabeyond |
Jan-28-09 05:11 PM |
#211 |
 
My "day" wasn't over until the late 80s when my own children were out of school |
sfexpat2000 |
Jan-28-09 05:19 PM |
#217 |
 
seriously? i have heard every slight committed to any kid. my kids talk continually |
seabeyond |
Jan-28-09 03:53 PM |
#189 |
 
LOL! Sounds like you have a future social worker or psychologist |
sfexpat2000 |
Jan-28-09 04:15 PM |
#200 |
 
he had to take a career class in the semester. that is where he falls into. |
seabeyond |
Jan-28-09 05:04 PM |
#209 |
 
the kids that are going ot feel bad about being poor in our school are already on a lunch program |
seabeyond |
Jan-28-09 03:36 PM |
#177 |
  
How do you know kids that feel bad are already in a lunch program? |
sfexpat2000 |
Jan-28-09 03:42 PM |
#182 |
 
only 6k. i would expect more. the program is well advertised and used |
seabeyond |
Jan-28-09 05:00 PM |
#208 |
 
I think the way the school handles it makes a lot of difference |
proud2Blib |
Jan-28-09 05:12 PM |
#212 |

Yep. Agreed. I can't help thinking that if Hugo Chavez can give kids two hot ones |
sfexpat2000 |
Jan-28-09 05:22 PM |
#221 |

all us parents that have kids in system and ask the kids all get same answer |
seabeyond |
Jan-28-09 03:29 PM |
#172 |

My wife was a "lunch lady" for a few years. |
ipfilter |
Jan-28-09 10:40 AM |
#132 |

So I gather taking your lunch makes you the class outcast? |
SmileyRose |
Jan-28-09 10:53 AM |
#134 |
 
That's too much work, apparently |
WolverineDG |
Jan-28-09 11:15 AM |
#135 |
 
Uh-oh. I failed my daughter. |
Ms. Toad |
Jan-29-09 09:09 AM |
#253 |

It began as a punitive measure over 10 years ago... the kids are the victims. |
madfloridian |
Jan-28-09 01:48 PM |
#138 |

I think it is awful what they are doing to these children - |
Azlady |
Jan-28-09 02:21 PM |
#146 |

for starters, the parents that dressed their kids up in cardboard are dicks |
Blue_Tires |
Jan-28-09 02:29 PM |
#148 |

Whats wrong with cheese sandwiches? |
Jack_DeLeon |
Jan-28-09 02:34 PM |
#149 |
 
Apparently it makes you "stand out" |
vanderBeth |
Jan-28-09 02:38 PM |
#150 |

My guess is if you had been teased for that sandwich, you'd know for sure. |
sfexpat2000 |
Jan-28-09 02:46 PM |
#152 |

do you know that they are being teased? there are a handful of parents whose kids |
seabeyond |
Jan-28-09 03:42 PM |
#183 |

I've read your posts on bullying and know you feel strongly about it. |
sfexpat2000 |
Jan-28-09 04:04 PM |
#191 |

Thank you sfexpat2000 for your post & explaining bullying, |
Azlady |
Jan-28-09 11:46 PM |
#248 |

Let's hope Obama gets his regional food network platform through |
Recursion |
Jan-28-09 02:47 PM |
#153 |

Hey Kids! Here's some public humiliation to go along with your poverty! |
Radical Activist |
Jan-28-09 03:05 PM |
#158 |
 
how about... |
ozu |
Jan-28-09 03:09 PM |
#160 |
  
Hey kids, we spend billions on useless crap and blowing up people |
Radical Activist |
Jan-28-09 03:13 PM |
#164 |
   
What's a real lunch? |
ozu |
Jan-28-09 03:17 PM |
#165 |
  
PBJ has more nutritional value. |
Radical Activist |
Jan-28-09 03:23 PM |
#168 |
  
Actually, they are about the same. |
Ms. Toad |
Jan-29-09 09:39 AM |
#256 |
  
You're such a humanitarian! |
sfexpat2000 |
Jan-28-09 03:19 PM |
#167 |
 
This whole thread has me livid RA. I'm ashamed of these people. |
originalpckelly |
Jan-28-09 03:44 PM |
#184 |

I got nothing... so I guess a cheese sandwich is an improvement |
ecstatic |
Jan-28-09 03:12 PM |
#163 |

Garnish the parent(s) wages, don't humiliate the kids. |
uppityperson |
Jan-28-09 03:23 PM |
#169 |
 
Put it on their state tax bill. Couldn't that be done? |
sfexpat2000 |
Jan-28-09 03:30 PM |
#173 |
  
Rather like unpaid child support? Some states don't have state taxes, but yes. |
uppityperson |
Jan-28-09 03:34 PM |
#174 |
 
The problem is, our schools system has been under attack / on the way to privatization for years. |
sfexpat2000 |
Jan-28-09 04:56 PM |
#206 |
 
Do you understand what is involved in garnishing wages? |
proud2Blib |
Jan-28-09 05:18 PM |
#216 |

It wouldn't be practical. You'd be farther ahead to just rob people |
sfexpat2000 |
Jan-28-09 05:44 PM |
#227 |

It's nice that children are learning early to run up excessive debt. |
flvegan |
Jan-28-09 03:45 PM |
#185 |

This is stupid |
supernova |
Jan-28-09 03:51 PM |
#187 |
 
From what I'm reading here, |
madinmaryland |
Jan-28-09 03:56 PM |
#190 |
  
That's what I don't get |
supernova |
Jan-28-09 04:07 PM |
#193 |
 
Do you have kids? Kids are not like cars. You don't just gas them up |
sfexpat2000 |
Jan-28-09 04:06 PM |
#192 |

Over react much? |
supernova |
Jan-28-09 04:11 PM |
#196 |

No, I don't overreact much at all. |
sfexpat2000 |
Jan-28-09 04:14 PM |
#199 |

It's not about a cheese sandwich. It started as a punitive measure. |
madfloridian |
Jan-28-09 04:11 PM |
#194 |
 
Now that I can understand |
supernova |
Jan-28-09 04:14 PM |
#198 |
 
and WHY were those two kids not on a free lunch program? n/t |
seabeyond |
Jan-28-09 05:20 PM |
#218 |

Some were too proud to apply. |
madfloridian |
Jan-28-09 05:21 PM |
#220 |

no i have not. i have not seen that as a reason to this point. |
seabeyond |
Jan-28-09 05:34 PM |
#225 |

do you know what really really concerns me every year. a parent having to spend 60, 70 dollars |
seabeyond |
Jan-28-09 06:35 PM |
#238 |

Why not withhold grades if unpaid? |
missingthebigdog |
Jan-28-09 04:13 PM |
#197 |
 
Are report cards mailed these days? |
sfexpat2000 |
Jan-28-09 04:18 PM |
#202 |
  
if a parent is not willing to spend ten dollars on bread and lunch stuff that would last two weeks |
seabeyond |
Jan-28-09 05:29 PM |
#223 |
 
There's all kinds of parents besides bad parents that might have trouble with this. |
sfexpat2000 |
Jan-28-09 05:34 PM |
#224 |
 
That's against the law |
proud2Blib |
Jan-28-09 05:24 PM |
#222 |

Are you sure? Cal withheld grades all the time from us poor grads |
sfexpat2000 |
Jan-28-09 05:38 PM |
#226 |

Yes I am sure |
proud2Blib |
Jan-28-09 06:20 PM |
#236 |

#1 The kids do get fed. #2 The entire system needs subsidies, overhaul, & kitchens... |
Hekate |
Jan-28-09 04:17 PM |
#201 |
 
But, that's the point. If ALL the kids did it, there's no problem. n/t |
sfexpat2000 |
Jan-28-09 04:19 PM |
#203 |

I know. Overhaul and the money to do it is key. This country SAYS it values kids and education... |
Hekate |
Jan-28-09 06:31 PM |
#237 |

I don't see what the big deal is with cheese sandwiches. |
pleah |
Jan-28-09 04:22 PM |
#204 |
 
School budgets should just include lunch. |
sfexpat2000 |
Jan-28-09 05:13 PM |
#213 |

In our state, |
Ms. Toad |
Jan-29-09 09:22 AM |
#254 |

At the district in question, here is the cost |
Ms. Toad |
Jan-29-09 10:27 AM |
#258 |
 
We have to move out of the mindset that throws billions of dollars at Wall Street |
sfexpat2000 |
Jan-29-09 02:52 PM |
#262 |

??????????? |
philk17088 |
Jan-29-09 02:36 PM |
#261 |

Yes, they do. The responsible thing to do is to feed lunch to children |
sfexpat2000 |
Jan-29-09 02:55 PM |
#263 |

This is seriously the longest thread about cheese sandwhiches ever. |
rcrush |
Jan-28-09 05:10 PM |
#210 |
 
It's amazing.....here, I'm going to help make it even longer |
rvablue |
Jan-28-09 06:19 PM |
#235 |

. |
Starry Messenger |
Jan-28-09 06:11 PM |
#232 |

I think poor kids should get Oscars or some kind of academic credit for mastering invisibility. |
sfexpat2000 |
Jan-28-09 06:51 PM |
#239 |

point of order - this doesn't penalize poor kids. |
ulysses |
Jan-28-09 08:34 PM |
#243 |

At some of the Chicago Public Schools kids get |
GinaMaria |
Jan-28-09 10:00 PM |
#246 |

I think the aim of this is good but maybe not the way it is done |
Hippo_Tron |
Jan-29-09 12:19 AM |
#249 |

My school had peanut butter sandwiches for teh kids |
PBS Poll-435 |
Jan-29-09 02:03 PM |
#260 |