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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 06:04 PM
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19. Why would you count the Iraq war dead,
and not the hundreds of civilians of Kosovo or the half-million dead Iraqis from Clinton's campaign of sanctions? I mean, calling it 'murder' whenever policy results in death seems like we could be setting a very bad precedent. Why not, instead, look for crimes for which there is actually some sort of legal precedent for prosecution? Torture is, I think, the best bet. Wiretapping is a pretty good bet, too. Both are crimes that violate laws that were intended to cover the types of actions that were committed.

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  -Please recommend that private citizen George W. Bush be PROSECUTED FOR MURDER. robertpaulsen  Jan-21-09 02:03 PM   #0 
  - I've checked with my conservative value handbook  BOSSHOG   Jan-21-09 02:09 PM   #1 
  - Unfortunately, the neo-con handbook states hypocrisy is the #1 value.  robertpaulsen   Jan-21-09 03:35 PM   #5 
  - Good Idea  Me.   Jan-21-09 02:16 PM   #2 
  - I like the idea of pressuring them on multiple fronts.  robertpaulsen   Jan-21-09 02:38 PM   #3 
  - According to this thread,  bvar22   Jan-21-09 02:51 PM   #4 
  - Great thread. We have a moral obligation to "in order to form a more perfect union...  robertpaulsen   Jan-21-09 04:32 PM   #6 
  - One more point about violating treaties.  robertpaulsen   Jan-21-09 06:14 PM   #7 
  - I already did.  hippywife   Jan-21-09 06:37 PM   #8 
  - Good for you. I sent a bunch of stuff on change.gov when Obama was P-E.  robertpaulsen   Jan-21-09 07:36 PM   #9 
  - Morning kick  robertpaulsen   Jan-22-09 11:54 AM   #10 
  - Basic legal principles dictate that if Bush is guilty of murder, everyone who encouraged, assisted,  Romulox   Jan-22-09 11:57 AM   #11 
  - True, however, if they did so BECAUSE they are lied to by Bush, then it's moot.  file83   Jan-22-09 02:07 PM   #12 
     - The disinformation did not originate from the WH. I don't mention this to defend W,  Romulox   Jan-23-09 03:47 PM   #33 
  - Although I hate these K&R fishing expeditions (I realize you're not doing it)  Tab   Jan-22-09 02:41 PM   #13 
  - Ain't gonna happen. Sorry to be the one to have to break the news to you.  Redstone   Jan-22-09 04:41 PM   #14 
  - You ain't breaking shit. I think we both hope you're wrong.  robertpaulsen   Jan-22-09 05:28 PM   #15 
  - GWB will be convicted of the particular crime of murder the same day Clinton will be.  Occam Bandage   Jan-22-09 05:31 PM   #16 
  - If Clinton had committed even one genuine murder...  robertpaulsen   Jan-22-09 05:56 PM   #17 
     - Why would you count the Iraq war dead,  Occam Bandage   Jan-22-09 06:04 PM   #19 
        - Please, please read the book. Bugliosi explains the reasons why.  robertpaulsen   Jan-22-09 06:28 PM   #20 
           - But is falsifying a particular pretense to war really the same  Occam Bandage   Jan-22-09 07:08 PM   #21 
              - Caveat Pre Emptor  Jambalaya   Jan-22-09 08:15 PM   #22 
              - Nobody is saying that what Bush did was right, or that it wasn't morally repugnant.  Occam Bandage   Jan-22-09 08:24 PM   #23 
                 - To borrow some creative expression from Gertrude Stein:  sohndrsmith   Jan-23-09 01:00 AM   #27 
                 - The key to appropriate prioritization lies in how Obama delegates authority.  robertpaulsen   Jan-23-09 04:14 PM   #34 
                 - You can avoid this whole argument...  jaundicedi   Jan-23-09 08:27 AM   #28 
                 - Let me try to clarify that.  robertpaulsen   Jan-23-09 02:19 PM   #30 
              - Your reasoned and thoughtful opinions are totally out of place  deaniac21   Jan-22-09 08:25 PM   #24 
              - Can you provide an example of a post on this thread lacking reason or thoughtfulness?  robertpaulsen   Jan-23-09 02:36 PM   #31 
                 - It speaks for itself.  deaniac21   Jan-23-09 03:40 PM   #32 
                    - Well. So you don't care to elaborate.  robertpaulsen   Jan-23-09 04:25 PM   #35 
                       - You are so used to your point of view that you think you have  deaniac21   Jan-23-09 07:49 PM   #36 
                          - And you decide to challenge my point of view with name-calling rather than reason or thoughtfulness.  robertpaulsen   Jan-24-09 08:57 PM   #38 
              - Interesting hypothetical. What if Bush had command of the English language? Or the truth?  robertpaulsen   Jan-23-09 01:18 PM   #29 
                 - Bugliosi = loon. Bush = loon.  deaniac21   Jan-23-09 08:02 PM   #37 
                    - I love how you keep my thread at the top with your dizzying intellect.  robertpaulsen   Jan-24-09 09:04 PM   #39 
  - Prosecution should not be pursued for political reasons (a la Siegelman) and  wiggs   Jan-22-09 05:57 PM   #18 
  - As a new resident of CA...  snake in the grass   Jan-23-09 12:13 AM   #25 
  - Too late to recommend, but I did go to the local prosecutor's  kas125   Jan-23-09 12:39 AM   #26 
 

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