Reply #72: my reply to your claims

[zonmoy]

on torture

http://www.americantorture.com/2008/11/ominous-signs-on-obama-torture-policy.html

With Obama's win comes great promise on the anti-torture front. According to Rush Holt, a New Jersey Democrat who chairs the select Appropriations subcommittee that recommends intelligence funding:

While an executive order will not remove the need for legislation on the issue, it is a way for President-elect Obama to put an immediate halt to our government’s use of torture during interrogations and to prevent secret detentions. By exercising his authority and acting quickly, he will begin to restore our moral leadership on the issue and repair some of the harm that has been done to our international reputation.
Will Obama follow through on his August 2007 pledge to "close Guantánamo, reject the Military Commissions Act, and adhere to the Geneva Conventions"? As post election euphoria fades, a picture has slowly emerged of what Obama's policies on torture will likely be. In a word: troubling.

Early warning signs came from AP reportage of plans for new, unnecessary "terror courts" and a NYT piece on "preventive detention of terrorism suspects". More ominous news came from the Wall Street Journal. According to a “current government official familiar with the transition" interviewed by that paper, "Obama may decide he wants to keep the road open in certain cases for the CIA to use techniques not approved by the military, but with much greater oversight.”

That also covers shutting down gitmo and black sites. how do you know he isn't simply hiding the evildoing rather than fixing it.

abortion rights and gender equality are merely distractions to keep people from noticing the increasing loss of equality between the rich and powerful and the poor and powerless.

Transparency I will believe that when not only are all the bush cabals crimes laid out in the open including all democratic co conspirators and all black ops that created the mess that bush created.

obamas right wing cabinet picks for me is the major proof that he is going to do little more than window dressing and smoke and mirrors instead of real change.

http://www.wsws.org/articles/2009/jan2009/obma-j19.shtml

Also we should probably compare the democrats actions to what they claim they want to do. They always claim to be for the least powerful but always seem to side with the wealthiest when their claims are put to the test.