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Mon Jan-19-09 02:08 PM
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| 69. can't find anything on their webpage concerning this....any links???? |
| -BREAKING CNN: People on flight 1549 2 days before say that they had the SAME problem! |
originalpckelly |
Jan-19-09 01:14 PM |
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I have a feeling this is going to turn into a scandal... |
originalpckelly |
Jan-19-09 01:18 PM |
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might explain |
marketcrazy1 |
Jan-19-09 01:20 PM |
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I think that's a normal thing. |
originalpckelly |
Jan-19-09 01:22 PM |
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It was reported that the pilot cancelled an interview due to "pressure from the Union." nt |
joeunderdog |
Jan-19-09 09:40 PM |
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The Union wishes to remain an official "interested party"... |
Lagomorph |
Jan-19-09 09:47 PM |
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There were, in the past stories, about flight maintenance being outsourced. |
dixiegrrrrl |
Jan-19-09 01:24 PM |
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Yeah, these airlines have been under the gun for fuel prices... |
originalpckelly |
Jan-19-09 01:39 PM |
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It's not so much as being outsourced as where it's outsourced. |
Angleae |
Jan-19-09 02:42 PM |
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Because it's odd for a plane to be destroyed when it flies into a building? |
aquart |
Jan-19-09 03:19 PM |
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They never--ehem--located at least one black box. |
joeunderdog |
Jan-19-09 09:42 PM |
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Their reputation for maintenance is pathetic. |
Angleae |
Jan-19-09 02:40 PM |
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US AIR (Unfortunately Still Allegheny In Reality) |
SharonAnn |
Jan-19-09 09:41 PM |
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it's not uncommon for the same plane to fly the same routes back and forth day after day... |
QuestionAll |
Jan-19-09 01:20 PM |
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True, but the big deal here... |
originalpckelly |
Jan-19-09 01:23 PM |
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That's not the pilot or crew's problem. It's the maintanence crew's issue. |
mucifer |
Jan-19-09 01:26 PM |
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Of course, I doubt pilots would take off with that knowledge in their heads. |
originalpckelly |
Jan-19-09 01:34 PM |
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And I'm flying them at the end of March ... |
meegbear |
Jan-19-09 01:24 PM |
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Well, this ought to be fleshed out before March. |
originalpckelly |
Jan-19-09 01:26 PM |
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Was it the same birds, too? |
onehandle |
Jan-19-09 01:26 PM |
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USAir is a corporation. They MUST be evil. |
Common Sense Party |
Jan-19-09 01:44 PM |
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I'm thinking the same Al Qaeda bird cell -- better call Alberto Gonzales... |
johnfunk |
Jan-19-09 05:25 PM |
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and this was not reported at the time? |
nini |
Jan-19-09 01:27 PM |
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Hero pilot might be full of BS? |
AngryAmish |
Jan-19-09 01:28 PM |
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The pilot's character and heroic actions are not in question. |
Alexander |
Jan-19-09 01:33 PM |
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Exactly. It appears clear the plane did lose power in both engines. |
lizzy |
Jan-19-09 01:35 PM |
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Yep, just because the pilot saw birds, doesn't mean he hit them. |
originalpckelly |
Jan-19-09 01:37 PM |
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How about the sounds of crashing geese? |
Common Sense Party |
Jan-19-09 01:45 PM |
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I'm still suspicious. I've seen videos of engines having birds chucked into them... |
originalpckelly |
Jan-19-09 01:52 PM |
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Geese smacked into the plane and the pilots instintively ducked |
dmordue |
Jan-19-09 01:46 PM |
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Not to mention sounds of thumping geese on the black box recording: |
Common Sense Party |
Jan-19-09 01:46 PM |
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I think the evidence is clear the geese were at least guilty of hitting the plane |
dmordue |
Jan-19-09 01:49 PM |
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I think so. |
Common Sense Party |
Jan-19-09 01:51 PM |
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Bull shit |
TwixVoy |
Jan-19-09 05:35 PM |
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That's ridiculous |
Dorian Gray |
Jan-19-09 09:09 PM |
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It landed in the Hudson two days earlier??? |
underpants |
Jan-19-09 01:29 PM |
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LOL |
trotsky |
Jan-19-09 01:31 PM |
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No, and this is not funny. |
originalpckelly |
Jan-19-09 01:38 PM |
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So posting internet |
Dorian Gray |
Jan-19-09 09:11 PM |
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Is that going to be a regular stop on that route now?? |
johnfunk |
Jan-19-09 05:27 PM |
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tricky!!! |
underpants |
Jan-19-09 05:35 PM |
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Maybe hitting the birds exacerbated a problem the plane already had? |
boloboffin |
Jan-19-09 01:31 PM |
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Actually, the plane must have been under some power |
Ghost Dog |
Jan-19-09 01:32 PM |
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Actually they do glide. Without thrust, an airplane becomes a big |
neverforget |
Jan-19-09 02:06 PM |
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Sure they glide (admittedly with a high sink rate compared to a glider) |
JohnyCanuck |
Jan-19-09 02:06 PM |
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I remember Flt 236 |
conscious evolution |
Jan-19-09 03:10 PM |
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Well, Ok. But in this case there doesn't appear to have been |
Ghost Dog |
Jan-19-09 03:11 PM |
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Flight 1549 was a smaller aircraft with about half the number of people on board than 236. |
Garbo 2004 |
Jan-19-09 04:02 PM |
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The descent rate would be slowed as he was trading air speed for reduced descent rate. |
carpentrerman |
Jan-19-09 04:24 PM |
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I read that for flight 1549 the rate was... |
ljm2002 |
Jan-19-09 05:10 PM |
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actually, they do glide |
flyingfysh |
Jan-19-09 02:07 PM |
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They can...For ex: flight ran out of fuel over Altlantic, glided to landing in Azores in 2001. |
Garbo 2004 |
Jan-19-09 02:15 PM |
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Yes, the plane did have some power, it's called "Gravity" |
CreekDog |
Jan-19-09 10:38 PM |
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can CNN confirm their "people on flight 1549 two days before" sources? |
Whoa_Nelly |
Jan-19-09 01:33 PM |
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Just saw one of them on TV, and US Airways does confirm... |
originalpckelly |
Jan-19-09 01:36 PM |
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They don't call them US Scareways for nothing. |
LeftyMom |
Jan-19-09 01:39 PM |
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The Free Market in action! |
Marr |
Jan-19-09 01:39 PM |
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I'm pro-free market, but I agree. If airlines really had to compete with rail's safety record... |
originalpckelly |
Jan-19-09 01:41 PM |
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I'm not seeing this anywhere else... |
Dennis Donovan |
Jan-19-09 01:39 PM |
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It was a CNN exclusive. |
originalpckelly |
Jan-19-09 01:44 PM |
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"Pilot misses geese on first attempt, scores two hits on second" n/t |
IDemo |
Jan-19-09 01:42 PM |
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No, perhaps you should read what I wrote. |
originalpckelly |
Jan-19-09 01:46 PM |
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It's also being suggested--no, EVIDENCE is being found--that geese |
Common Sense Party |
Jan-19-09 01:48 PM |
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All this article really says is that both engines died at the same time. |
lizzy |
Jan-19-09 01:50 PM |
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Highly unlikely that a mechanical failure alone would cause BOTH |
Common Sense Party |
Jan-19-09 01:53 PM |
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I know nothing about engines on the planes, so I have no clue |
lizzy |
Jan-19-09 01:54 PM |
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Unless the Hudson washed the remains away. |
Common Sense Party |
Jan-19-09 01:57 PM |
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I think if the birds crushed into the engines the engines |
lizzy |
Jan-19-09 01:58 PM |
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I would think so. |
Common Sense Party |
Jan-19-09 02:00 PM |
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Could be bad fuel |
AngryAmish |
Jan-19-09 02:55 PM |
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So, the pilot's comments at that the time on the recorder mean nothing? |
nini |
Jan-19-09 01:53 PM |
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Did I say that? No I did not. |
lizzy |
Jan-19-09 01:55 PM |
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Then why do you need to see bird guts to satisfy you? |
nini |
Jan-19-09 02:02 PM |
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Someone upthread mentioned the need for goose DNA to be |
Common Sense Party |
Jan-19-09 02:06 PM |
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LOL |
nini |
Jan-19-09 02:11 PM |
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To some people, such evidence means nothing. |
Common Sense Party |
Jan-19-09 01:55 PM |
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Oh gee. Stop the investigation. It's so obvious, why bother? |
lizzy |
Jan-19-09 01:57 PM |
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I never said stop the investigation. |
Common Sense Party |
Jan-19-09 01:58 PM |
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Union Carbide Bhopal Disaster. |
originalpckelly |
Jan-19-09 02:04 PM |
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Are you equating this crash landing with Bhopal? |
Common Sense Party |
Jan-19-09 02:08 PM |
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I'm self-employed. |
originalpckelly |
Jan-19-09 02:14 PM |
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Why? |
malaise |
Jan-19-09 02:00 PM |
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and I heard another report that they did detected something |
alyce douglas |
Jan-19-09 02:12 PM |
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************* /Sarcasm ************ * |
IDemo |
Jan-19-09 01:51 PM |
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Also, the captain is being advised not to comment publicly. |
Lastlaughin08 |
Jan-19-09 01:58 PM |
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That sounds like standard practice when an accident is under |
Common Sense Party |
Jan-19-09 02:01 PM |
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I believe it was his union that requested it. |
Lastlaughin08 |
Jan-19-09 02:07 PM |
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LaGuardia's Bird Problems Are Well Known ... Other Than That |
Crisco |
Jan-19-09 02:00 PM |
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Sure are... |
Davis_X_Machina |
Jan-19-09 02:06 PM |
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Nothing that the lying scumbags running many U.S. corporations |
Peace Patriot |
Jan-19-09 02:01 PM |
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With only seconds to react and try to safely land the plane to save |
Common Sense Party |
Jan-19-09 02:05 PM |
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It really doesn't ring plausible. |
glitch |
Jan-19-09 02:39 PM |
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I usually take conspiracy theories with a huge block of salt |
Common Sense Party |
Jan-19-09 02:43 PM |
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That's funny, that's how I take coincidence theories! Only I say salt lick, not block. :) nt |
glitch |
Jan-19-09 02:49 PM |
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I wasn't sure if everyone understood the term "salt lick." |
Common Sense Party |
Jan-19-09 03:13 PM |
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It's true I do have to explain it a lot. But it's worth it. :) nt |
glitch |
Jan-19-09 10:53 PM |
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Did you see the report of the co-pilot's letter to his union? |
Peace Patriot |
Jan-20-09 12:15 AM |
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No, of course it doesn't (ring plausible). That's what I'm saying. But |
Peace Patriot |
Jan-20-09 01:27 AM |
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LaGuardia is odd anyway |
spinbaby |
Jan-19-09 02:02 PM |
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Noise abatement procedures... |
Davis_X_Machina |
Jan-19-09 02:03 PM |
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Orange County airport is the worst that I've been to. |
trotsky |
Jan-19-09 02:42 PM |
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That's what I've heard. |
fudge stripe cookays |
Jan-19-09 08:24 PM |
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Being told by your flightcrew that you'll have to return to the airport... |
originalpckelly |
Jan-19-09 02:11 PM |
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can't find anything on their webpage concerning this....any links???? |
spanone |
Jan-19-09 02:08 PM |
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I know, I went to look for it too. I'm not the only who saw it though... |
originalpckelly |
Jan-19-09 02:13 PM |
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Link: |
akwapez |
Jan-19-09 02:52 PM |
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Does anyone know about planes? Does a compressor stall sound like a thud? |
originalpckelly |
Jan-19-09 05:47 PM |
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Compressor Stalls |
Oldtimeralso |
Jan-19-09 08:49 PM |
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Would that require the plane to be out of business for a few days? |
originalpckelly |
Jan-19-09 09:52 PM |
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Flames? There were flames and it's just now being mentioned? |
AZBlue |
Jan-19-09 03:06 PM |
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Here's the story: |
originalpckelly |
Jan-19-09 05:47 PM |
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Passengers on earlier flight say the incident involved the right engine. Not both engines. nt |
Garbo 2004 |
Jan-19-09 03:15 PM |
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Both engines? ...highly unlikely. |
L0oniX |
Jan-19-09 04:50 PM |
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And they blamed it on the poor birds. Assholes. |
lonestarnot |
Jan-19-09 05:12 PM |
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The hysterical reaction here is telling. |
JackRiddler |
Jan-19-09 11:26 PM |
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